Jan 09' Dribbling, drooling, swaying and babbling...thats just the mamas....

[stripeywoollenhat]

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hi miss j

hope your having a good one.
i got implany beg of march
i didnt get 1st period since having bracken till 18 of march when she was 8 weeks old.
i didnt breast feed either

Yes MissJ you were! You had been for a scan for PCOS and seen the pregnancy really early although the sonographer thought it was your period. And you'd only been with your DH 6 months but were in the whirlwind, sounded fab.

And last night I just got to the bit where Ray introduced herself with "What a wonder to have found mumsnet" made me smile - couldn't have put it better myself.

It is funny as now I feel like I know you all, but back then it was hard to keep up with who was who so I've taken it all in a bit more.

Gorgeous here too

Boo to periods and growth spurts - still feeding 1-2hourly day and night here. Am fed up now. And DS is far from settled. Has hardly slept in last 24 hours.

ray could also be because of new surroundings Esme is waking in the night. Violet won't settle down when we are out at night.

fym i'm not sure i'm ready to wean... boohoohoo. i guess you can keep up with BF and food. i want to do it for at least 2 years.

which brings me to a question about BF while pregnant. do you continue to BF older child too while LO is? how does it affect you... ie: getting all the nutrients you need. we are planning to start the pregnancy train again in october. good grief... am i completely off my rocker?!!!

missjackson how was the horse riding. i've been once on a forest trail and had the time of my life! horses have always freaked me out a little. i'm sure they can read my mind. my friend had horses on his b&b property. there was the old male and he was funny. we were hanging out in there area and the old male came over to greet us. he kept stomping his foot near me. i'd move away, he'd take a step in and stomp. he was teasing me the begger. i realized what he was doing. i said 'hey you. stop that', and he laughed! cheeky.

oh and about periods... i bed for 4 weeks after giving birth and have found that every 28-30 days since, i do a bit of spotting for 2 days. i am exclusively BF. is this normal?... as much as normal can be.

periods? Bleurgh... have been feeling a bit as if one might happen.... but I don't think they came back after dd until 6 or 7 mo.... too long ago to remember. DS is only 11 weeks, so not yet please....

chefswife re weaning... I remember with dd, I thought I'd bf for 6 mo, and then wean... didn't realise that you still bf once food is introduced! how dim was that? DD actually bf until 17mo (I chose to stop, but she didn't fuss over it- which I was surprised about as she is pretty strong-willed, and was a complete milkaholic!)

dog DD starts tuesday, as they have a teacher training day tomorrow... I still have to sew name labels in several things (jumper, tracksuit etc) better get on with those lol. Of course, it's summer term, so they're in summer dresses rather than normal uniform. (bit annoying, as she'll only get 12 weeks wear from her dress in all likelihood...hence the singular- we only bought one)

I am very nervous... mn always seems to have horror stories of school playground politics, just not sure I can handle stuff like that.

I find I have much more confidence when I'm being 'Mamma' rather than being me IYSWIM...

Well- another gorgeous day at the botanical gardens (think we will practically live there this summer)... picnic, band playing, children running around in Brownian motion... Ah! My 2 are both asleep in bed already fabulous. (I am having early night to make up for last night... they played yoyo with me, so I had around 3 hours sleep, meh.

fym is your father very much out of character? might be worth getting checked by gp... hope it was just a bad day.

tink I dream of having a study! My 2 will have to share- no choice really... we'll see how long DS stays in our room I guess- cannot imagine them ever getting to sleep in same room- dd is a nightmare for going to bed- always has been.

lenni - growth spurt still going strong here . not sure she is going to sleep at all this evening. i do want her to grow, obviously, but it would be nice if she would do it at a nice even rate, with naps....

also, to everyone re impending periods - am hoping not to see one here for quite some time yet...

busy bees!!

hi chef,dog and each peach

DS looks noticeably bigger today Stripey either that or I'm losing it. Plus I'm not as hungry - perhpas they are both good signs. Fed all day again and the worst part of it all is he's not pooed for about 4 days (have lost track) so all this milk is going in and (so far) not coming out going to be terrible when it does!

As dreadful as it is having to be permanently feeding, its nice have you to moan to about it. Am glad (not the right word I know) I'm not alone.

Chef you're not crazy! Brave though and fab to be thinking about tandem feeding maybe.

Have a migraine starting (get them from the sun, always first hot day of the year) so better go before I make it worse, back tomorrow.

lenni - c seems to have passed out now, she must be completely knackered. and i also think she has been visibly growing over the last couple of days. not as hungry as yesterday but made flapjacks today just in case . exceedingly sorry to hear ds is saving up his poo - i recommend a dark babygro - unless you are more proficient at nappy sealing than i am.... hope migraine resolves...

lennied i'm sure some mornings DD is bigger than when we went to bed. how do they do that.

friday night DD and i went to the graduate opening at the university (where i hope to become an art prof) but she only lasted an hour. it was really frustrating because as soon as i walked through the door, people were on me and it over stimulated her having all these people mauling her. i had her in a sling. i couldn't talk to my ex-prof, (he's a friend now but its funny to think of myself like that) who was taking me round and trying to introduce me to some people. i was just amazed how people will just interrupt/disrupt those with little one's. i was pissed too because i was trying to network... that was the first opening i've been to since giving birth and it was a big one with opportunities to meet people in the industry. i was just miffed... still am i think.

chef - yes you are completely ff your rocker but you will cope

ps have learnt the hard way you can't 'work' with a LO, my advice is get a babysitter if you want to network. I had to see some customers when DS was 2 weeks old (they knew we had a baby) and it took both of us to do the sale - one to look after DS and one to sell.

eachpeach my periods started pretty much immediately both times but on mini pill so no periods for years here apart from TTC when I'm reminded how awful and messy it all is...

dad is very forgetful lately and mum has been worried about alzheimers - (but it's not very bad so I think she is just worrying unnecessarily) I'm worried his personality changing now this has happened a couple of times (a symptom of alzheimers) but am hoping it is just overwork (he's just done 2 weeks full time on my business as we were short staffed)

fym- that was my first thought I'm afraid. A very close friend of my MIL has it, and she has changed so much I think its frustration on their part tbh. In her lucid periods she is as charming as ever.

lenni hope migraine goes quickly

morning ladies

dd1 is back @ nursery

new room is great. downstairs old owner had had it kitted out like a bedroom as she used it as one too. have put all of dd1s toys into her room.

Morning everyone - wow, so much to catch up on.

stripey and lennied I hear you on the feeding - most days Nye feeds every hour or so when he's awake! He likes to graze, and likes to fall asleep on the breast. It's still his favourite place to be! Always makes me laugh when I read breastfeeding advice that says 'your baby will disengage when he's had enough', as left to himself, Nye would literally stay there all day, I'm sure!

Luckily at night he does longer stretches - usually the first time he wakes is 2am-3am (goes down at 7pm), and after that on and off (but co-sleeping by then) until we finally get up - most mornings we don't get up until 9am! OH has good staff who do the horses in the morning, and the rides don't start until 10am so there's no big rush. But we probably should get up earlier and do laundry etc! Still feel like there's nosense of routine in our lives...

new bedroom sounds fab tink, you must sleep so well away from babies!

chef horse riding was fab, went right up on the mountain and the weather was glorious!

missj - c was waking up in the night a lot when we were co-sleeping, we moved her to her cot a couple of weeks ago because it seemed like it was the smell of the milk and the proximity which was waking her up. now, when she isn't having a growth spurt, she wakes up twice between 7pm and 9am, which is completely okay and makes me feel like i shouldn't even mention frequent daytime feeding...

fym, i'm sorry to hear about your worries about your dad. do you know if he is worrying himself about it?

stripey I am sure you are right - I'm sure he just snacks and then sleeps on when he is right next to me. But I have now got really lazy about getting up to breastfeed, wait for him to go back to sleep etc. Also he is not a very cuddly baby generally, so I do love the nights when he is snuggled up against me. I'm torn really.. but I think OH wants him out of the bed anyway!

yes, i know, i kind of miss her even though the cot is in our room - but everybody is sleeping better, so co-sleeping is over...

hi

ye stripey it is good

miss j - sounds like nye is a breast man lol

bracken has always been bottle fed so goes 3 hourly with 3 ozs. in the night goe down @ 7pm we wake her @ 10pm to fed then she goes to 3-5 am then wakes for a feed @ 7am

have been sorting room again

have moved all of dd1s toys out of dd2s room into hers
have moved all of our clothes out of chest of draws and put on shelfs in our new room hope they dont get 2 dusty!! felt odd having them in brackens room

Hi

Well we're back from Norfolk. DS2 had a lovely birthday at the beach, despite it being really overcast and absolutely freezing. We didn't get to do the alka selzer rockets or missiles as it was way too windy, we we did manage to have our pinic in the camper and then go for a nice long walk with 3 boys, DD and 3 dogs which was cold but really nice.

DD was an absolute angel all weekend, fed ever 3 to 3 and half hours, slept perfectly through the night despite being in the travel cot for the first time (so much so she was still asleep at 8.30 and I was in agony and swimming in milk!) and didn't cry once - now my sister wants to keep her and her partner wants to have a baby just like her. [extremely proud Mummy emoticon]

On the other hand DS1 was a complete nightmare all weekend with the jealous 'its not my birthday' syndrome, which is a bit rum considering it was his birthday the weekend before! DH and I were at a loss to know what to do with him he was so bad. Worst of all he kept DS2 and my nephew awake until 1.30 am on Friday night so we ended up separating them and having DS2 in our bed resulting in little or no sleep for us (he was somehow managing to sleep with his head on my neck, a knee in my back and the rest of his body across DH!)

We only got home at 9.00 pm last night so boys were exhausted and there were tears before school this morning.

DH and I were up till 1.00 unpacking the camper and getting everything ready for school today.

Its taken me all morning to finish unpacking, do the washing and start to get the house to some semblance of normality after having the mess monsters home for a fortnight, so have only skip read the thread and will go back and read it properly when/if I get time.

Did catch that Isla's alarm went off though - Dog you poor thing its so awful when that happens, glad she was fine though.

DD has her 3 month jabs tomorrow (put them off a for a week as siblings aren't allowed at baby clinic and it was during the school holidays).

Right must go and make DH's lunch now as he's just called to say he's on his way and then my Aunt called straight afterwards - its nonstop round here today! Will hopefully find 5 mins to catch up later.

Welcome back MM, sounds like a great time except for DS1's antics!

Nye is finally asleep after long walk up the lane, 4 nappy changes, 20 minutes in his swing and finally back in the pram. Have calculated that it has taken me nearly an hour to get him to sleep. So really, really hope he stays that way for a while...

stripey I am going to try again tonight to wake up, sit up, breast feed and then put him back in cot... co-sleeping must finish here too at some point! Sometimes I feel like I have really got off to a bad start and created bad habits for him. Basically he'll only sleep if I breast-feed him to sleep, or if he's in the pram/ car seat being moved around. Sooner or later I think we are going to have to do some sleep training, and let him 'settle himself' as they say - doesn't this just mean letting them cry themselves to sleep though? Oh dear... not sure I can deal with that. Might start off by lying next to him and patting and shhushing until he falls asleep, however much he cries...

missj - settling themselves is crying themselves to sleep so far as i can see - at least in c's case, even if you let her fall asleep on your lap, she usually grizzles a bit before she goes. i think she must just not like the sensation or something. she won't sleep on her own except in darkness with some white noise (hairdryer recording). and i hate putting her to bed because there is always some crying and i always feel sure i am doing the wrong thing - although the alternative is having her hysterical with exhaustion...

the sleep books i've got all deal with babies over 4 months and suggest that you just do whatever works before that.

Thanks Stripey... maybe I will wait till 4 months then. Will fit well with moving etc anyway - we should be much more settled by then.

Am going to try the white noise thing too. Do you have it very loud? And can YOU sleep thru it?!

Hi people - just popping in to say rl is bonkers busy and abou to get busier as the sunshine has spured us into painting the wood outside our house. Windows etc.

It's 3 storys high so if you see on the news about some lunatic woman caught on camers balencing a ladder on a pram on a crate on a stepladder - that'll be me.

Can't afford a proper painter so hey ho crack on I say!

Will catch up on thread properly later today I hope.

Jabs today

i have been doing more sorting

have crates under our bed with our clothes in.
bracken has our chest of draws

have sorted out brackens 0-3 month clothes for my mums friend to have whos son has just had twins they r having all brackens old clothes as she outgrows them.
outsorting mine and dh clothes. as most doesnt fit me.
have magaed to get into 2 old skirts though

mm - brek sounded good
hope you get things back 2 normal ok

miss j - glad nye asleep
bracken has been asleeep for nearly 2 hours

tree - good luck with painting

missj - not too loud, just loud enough to compete with other ambient noise. i can sleep through almost anything, not so dp, but it only needs to be on for stretches of time during the day as she's a pretty good night sleeper.

but she is not sleeping now, despite eye rubbing, so had better go...