December 2007 "The one where babies walk the walk... and talk the talk"

[Arcadie]

I'm sorry - I couldn't last out. Welcome to the new thread.

Arcadie - sorry to hear about your stress, 2 weeks is a VERY long time. Hope you get some better news soon.

SQ have dug out the "Parents Questionnaire" I filled out as part of DD1's application for the gifted programme at school. Questions asked relate to:
Sleeping pattern at night (slept through/woke frequently)
Sleeping pattern in day (dropped daytime sleep when)
Relationships with adults - attention-seeking etc
Need for adult help or like doing things alone
Age began to speak and using complex sentences and words (under 2)
How curious
Interest in books
When began working out letters
How long could concentrate on something at age 2
Degree of sympathy/empathy for others
Whether plays alone a lot
How observant
How good memory
How co-operative
Numeracy skills - e.g. count to 100 by 4

I don't think there's necessarily a right or wrong answer to any of the above - I don't have a "score" based on my answers to the above. In order for her to be accepted we also had to have an educ psych report done and that was much more scientific (e.g. gave an est IQ).

Furryfox I remember you too!! Welcome back

DD2 much better thanks - seemed be only a 24 hour thing - but rarely have I seen such impressive projectile vomit!

Thanks for all your responses re DD2's father. He has an older daughter so shouldn't be completely clueless but you're right that he sees things largely from his own perspective. For example we usually meet at a big museum where there's loads of space for DD to run around and its never a problem re weather. He keeps suggesting that we go for a walk somewhere with her in her stroller - now how is he going to have much quality time with her under that scenario (I understand he might find going to the museum AGAIN a bit boring but she doesn't!).

On the other hand he has asked to meet us more regularly (like weekly) which I've resisted as I find the meetings very stressful personally - so maybe its unfair to expect him to give much?

Oh arcadie what a worry for you. I had scan as soon as we knew I was pregnant with dd (standard procedure over there)and even with an internal scan it was hard to see anything so early. In my case the sac was measuring 7 or 8 weeks (I was 5-6) but there was no sign of an embryo, 2 weeks later the sac was still the same size but there was a very fuzzy and faint blob in there. I'd also bled at 4 weeks but not knowing I was pg until I started puking and fainting I'd just thought it was a period-it was exactly like a normal period really (had the same with ds so think it is just what I do). Waiting til the next scan must be agony for you though...

Erm jokes. I have a horrible friend who tells lots of jokes but they are all totally awful and non pc so I won't share any of them!

SQ I hope you all recover from the plague your maladies soon and are able to enjoy your holiday.

Furry DS has been the same, screamed non stop til he could move, then was still whingy and demanding until he could walk and has got steadily better, now he can talk a bit he is so much happier again

DS is protesting against his cot this week, just starts yelling "NO COT NO COT" everytime we go to put him in it then screams hysterically. We tried him with a baby pillow but it made no difference so I think we need to get dd a proper bed and try him in her toddler bed-am scared he'll be in and out all night though!

Clairey thanks so much for your reassuring post. Foolishly googled "6 weeks gestation ultrasound pictures" this morning. Needless to say you can make out a baby in all of them, but not in mine...... Hearing what you saw has been really helpful.

Sorry to be a bore but I've used up all my whinging time at my chum and just wanted to say for the record... I feel so numb... Just can't be bothered to get excited about anything or look forward to anything.

Please someone slap me and tell me that there are FAR worse things that everyone else is going through and to bloomin well pull myself together...

And, on another topic, Where's Bouncing Turtle? Seems like a while.

Hi Arcadie

Sorry you are going through this worrying time. I had an early internal ultrasound scan of DD when she was about 9wks but turned out she was actually about 7wks . The point of me telling you is that I have no idea how she was 2 wks younger than all my dates and last cycle dates etc but that's what she measured and she was actually 5 days overdue when she finally came out. So try not to let googling worry you as they all seem to be so different.

Can we talk cs scars again? Anyone whos had one, how long is your now and are you happy wth it? If we conceive a DC3 I think I will be going for an elective section but my scar from DS (emergency) is horrible and very long .

Oh the joys... it's pouring down now and I've just finished hanging out a whole load of washing damn!

Arcadie you really are having a rough time, if only we could manage some time travel for you If it would still help [slap] was that good for you? do you want another one?

Thanks for all everyone's wishes for a speedy recovery in time for our holiday. DH a bit better today although the Tamiflu makes you vomit with the first few doses so that's not been pleasant. Fingers still tightly crossed here. Just choosing which shade of red to paint the cross on the door...

Surprisingly nursery were very laid back about swine flu and there was no question of DD having to be kept at home.

Ceciliamay my scar is just over 6" long, pink and I still have no sensation on or near it. I have the kind of skin that scars permanently so it hasn't bothered me that much as it's only really DH that gets to see it.

Buzzy thanks for the list it's really interesting to see the kind of things they look for. DD stuck her hand down her nappy this morning, brought it out and announced "rain!". Didn't see that mentioned on the list and don't know whether she was confusing it with wee or developing a new method of weather forecasting

Arcadie STEP AWAY FROM GOOGLE!

Thanks SQ keep the beatings coming.
Clairey ok...... I will.

SQ thanks for sharing your feelings on your CS scar, since I doubt I have a future in nude modelling I am not bothered about my scar either (!!!!!) except the fact it is a lot worse than any others I have seen (ok I have not seen many but given DS's birth that warranted the cs it makes me a bit sad as feels like a real wound rather than a scar from a CS IYSWIM?)

DS is getting really good at Twinkle Twinkle, DH sings it to him all the time (no idea why) but its so cute to hear him singing it. Still battling with the dummy, I don't mind him having it at nighttime but I dont like him to have it during the day but he has recently taken to saying "dum dum" as he points and whines at the cupboard where they are kept. DD had hers for 6 months and wasnt fussed at all at it going when she was 6 months old

How is everyone else?

Arcadie [slap]feeling any better?

SQ that was perfect!

Oh and you're all off the hook - who'd have thought, but there's a jokes thread on MN! Glorious.

oh shit arcade - fingers crossed they find a baby

• that sound flippant it isn't meant to be

i HATE my cs scar...I hate dh touching it and I won't look at it or touch it - It is a good thing dd3 is so sweet...else there would be trouble

Arcadie I was going to suggest the MN Classics threads for some light relief. Only if you have time to spare though!

Cazzy see- that is exactly how I feel Thank you for summing it up so perfectly. I feel a facebook status in the making! (but wouldn't as Mother uses FB!)

Clairey I have some time to spare but should be exercising/ cleaning house etc Instead there're a lot more threads on MN that have an Arcadie comment on them now Thanks for the link!

LOL (guess who followed her own link and has done nothing for the past 40 minutes!)

I was cutting ds' nails this morning (he doesn't let me do them often so they get quite long and sharp) and a bit flew up as I cut it off and landed in my eye . It was SO painful. Luckily (I think...) it landed on my contact lens so I was able to just take out my contact lens and pick it off that rather than trying to get it out of my eye on it's own.

He wouldn't settle again last night so I blew up dd's ready bed for him. Unfortunately it is an ITNG one and he was far too excited to see 'buggerbugger' (MakkaPakka)on his bed to actually go to sleep. Really need to sort it out though...

Ha ha Clairey - we blew up dd1's readybed the other night thinking if she slept in dd2's room she might go to sleep easier. However, dd2 saw the bed (it's a FiFi one), got very excited, got straight in it and wouldn't get out! So dd1 had a tantrum, we took dd2 out of it, dd1 jumped in and wouldn't get out so dd2 started tantrumming.....

...never again, us and out great ideas!

spooky clairey - the EXACT same thing re nail cutting happened to me yesterday - no contact lense to protect me though (ouch). I then went on to burn my finger on the toaster so am like the walkig wounded atm

loucee - DS also loves twinkle twinkle but only wants to sing/do actions of the diamond bit - DD was the same - i wonder what it is about making your fingers into a diamond - skid gos off to ponder fascinating question of the day...

OUCH! I have been biting (very unhygenically) DD's nails with my teeth up until now but think the time might have come to start using scissors. I have a hatred of those clippers tho - managed to cut DD1's skin quite badly once

DD2's going through quite a language spurt at the moment, e.g. umbrella (ubbalella) including bringing back some old words that she had for a while and then seemed to forget (shut, outside). I'm ridiculously excited.

Skid have been doing quite a bit of reading on left brain right brain recently and have concluded that I'm close to 100% left and DD1 close to 100% right! Which is a bit problematic when I'm trying to teach her something as I go about it completely the wrong way. Maybe the diamond has some sort of left/right brain association?!! [buzzy making up theories on the spot]

Wierd Skid, sychronised nail/eye injuries I was having such a clumsy day yesterday, gave up getting anything much done. Am having a v strange period too so not sure if that has anything to do with it!

Buzzy I have bitten dd's up til now but ds won't let me, I find biting less scary than cutting though! If he sees the nail clippers or scissors he will either run away screaming or come and say 'hands/feet' at me so it's a bit hit and miss as to whether I actually get them cut!

DS likes the diamond bit of twinkle twinkle too. He sings along to it but sticks his fingers in his ears at the 'wonder' part (I think he is trying to do the wonder action)

My mum is bringing me a spare single bed for dd from their house tomorrow so hopefully ds having a bed will make a difference to his sleep. Last night he screamed from 7 until he finally went to sleep at 9 (we kept going to try to settle him but there was nothing wrong with him he just kept saying no cot, no cot, downstairs)then woke 3 times shouting OUT COT before waking for the day at 5.20. Was really hoping I'd be getting a bit more sleep than this by this point!

Hello! Just back from my holiday in Scotland - weather was a bit mixed, but we had a great time! The cottage we stayed in just outside Fort William was lovely, there were rabbits, chickens, a cockeral and ponies visiting every morning, to DS's delight, he really loved the ponies and stroked their noses
He also loved watching the steam train as n well - it crossed a bridge over the river Lochy yards from our cottage!

Sorry to hear things have been bad for you Clairey - hope you and your (D)H can work things out.

Insy - hope Bear is ok!

Arcadie - hope you are okay too, and that there is good news on your next scan.

Spiralqueen - hope your DH is recovering!

Welcome back to Cecilamay & Furryfox!
Hi to everyone else too

Hello!!

At last back on mumsnet - its like one of those friends you keep meaning to call the longer you leave it the longer you know it'll take to catch up and then you realise you haven't got hours in the evening so put it off!

ok what did I miss??!?

arcadie congrats and fingers crossed, whats the latest?

We've had a horrible couple of weeks, ended up in hospital with Bear after he had a high temperature and just rapidly went down hill - panting, fast heart rate and not feeding (on plus side know he can go 9 hrs between feeds not done it since we got home tho ) had a full septic screen - which included the horrible lumbar puncture and then had to wait 4 days for all results to come in while they assume the worst and start aggressively treating it. Anyway long or short of it is he's absolutely fine, they think it was something viral, probably given to him by his big brothers and interestingly swine flu wasn't mentioned but I bet they tested for it.

I'm shattered still after 3 nights of no sleep just watching him breathing and the bigger boys have stepped the boundary pushing up a gear, I guess they were adjusting to having a new baby and then 4 wks in I disappear for a week and they have no idea what is happening from one day to the next. ds1, who having decided he can't control the big stuff now has a melt down should I dare to serve his drink in the wrong colour cup, give him the 'wrong' cutlery, 'wrong' t-shirt etc etc and Toby, my angel easy going baby is constantly wrapped round my leg and bursts into full on sobs if anyone comes round and refuses to get off my lap, I guess worried I'll leave? and I'm still trying to breastfeed so usually end up with 3 on my lap and by the time dh comes home he wants a cuddle and I really need my own space so his mostly in a sulk at the moment, you really do blank out the first 6-12 weeks don't you?!

a very me me me post but I have absolutely no idea how things are with you - updates please because I'm never going to have the time to read all the posts!

oh Arcadie just flicked thro to see you were after a joke

A dentist noticed that his next patient, a little old lady, was nervous, so he decided to tell her a little joke as he put on his gloves.

'Do you know how they make these gloves?' he asked.

'No, I don't,' she replied.

'Well,' he spoofed, 'there's a building in Canada with a big tank of latex, and workers of all hand sizes walk up to the tank, dip in their hands, let them dry, then peel off the
gloves and throw them into boxes of the right size.'

She didn't crack a smile.

'Oh, well. I tried,' he thought.

But five minutes later, during a delicate portion of the procedure, she burst out laughing.

'What's so funny?' he asked.

'I was just envisioning how condoms are made!'

Insy Excellent joke. thanks!!!! Can't believe you found time to try to cheer me up in the midst of all that's going on. You legend.

The latest is no change. Don't feel pg. Don't have any hard and fast reason to suspect I'm not. So no beer.
The very thing is all the lovely ladies on my antenatal thread who're just going through such hard times with their early pregnancies. Seems like every day is a new mc. Sad reading.

Poor Bear. Poor Insy. Poor DSs.

BT - Glad you had a lovely holiday. The cottage sounds lush and sounds like DS had a great time.

Insy - So glad Bear is ok. Must have been awful for you and DH and your boys. Hope everything gets back to normal soon

Arcadie - Sorry you are still going through this, I hope this weeks goes quickly so you can have your scan. Have got my fingers crossed for you.

Clairey - Is DS in a bed now? How's it going?

Am hoping this weather improves by the weekend. It's DD1's 4th birthday and she's having a little party on Sunday.

DD2 has been off her food the last week, I'm assuming it's her teeth again so hopefully she'll be back to her normal self soon. I find it so frustrating when she won't eat although am trying to stay relaxed about it. She's not miserable or anything so I guess she can't be that hungry.

While on the subject of food what are your DC's favourite foods for lunch/dinner? I think DD2 would happily have something fishy everyday if she could, she's never that keen on anything else. DD1 won't touch fish though so often means I have to give them different things.

Hi to everyone else