December 2007 "The one where babies walk the walk... and talk the talk"

[Arcadie]

I'm sorry - I couldn't last out. Welcome to the new thread.

Buzzy does the GP know what she might be allergic to?

Just thought - is there a link between not sleeping through + counting and sleeping through but not counting?

SQ I would have agreed with you until yesterday...but last night ds slept from 7pm until 6.53am (see, I even know the minute I was that amazed!) . 2 hours longer than usual! Long may it last!

We also have the flourish on ten, and also on three for ds

Hi all!

Clairey for DS counting! Blimey!

BT, hiya! Glad the bed trick seemed to work! DH has been on at me to put Evie in her bed but I think while she is happy in her cot I'll keep her in it.

SpiralQueen, DD is usually a very good sleeper and although occasionally (usually when poorly) she'll wake up for a cuddle at night she's not had a feed at night since she was about 3 months old.

Buzzy, glad your cold wasn't swine flu! DD has had a nasty cold and can't stop sneezing, thankfully only mild temperature with it but I have been panicking a bit. We had letters from the DS's school yesterday saying that there are schools in the area who've had pupils with swine flu and that it's only a matter of time before it gets to ours. They are also saying no antivirals and no closing of school to prevent the spread - mind you there is only a week and a half left before the summer break so perhaps we'll be okay. Arghhh! I know they say its only a mild virus but I still don't want any of my DCs to get it, especially as they don't think the mild form now will necessarily give immunity if it is worse in the winter. Can you tell I think too much about this stuff?! On a lighter note, have you done your Zoo visit yet, sounds really interesting!

DrSkid, official congratulations!!!

Cazzy, hope you're okay, I bled for a long time after my MCs, easily as long as I did after giving birth and longer with the first one. Worth getting checked out though and if you're feeling anaemic/tired then try Spatone, its fab stuff and has none of the nasty side affects of iron tablets.

DD made my heart melt yesterday, I was getting ready for work last night and her little face crumpled when she saw me putting my work shirt on , she started jabbering on to me (she knows what she's saying) in a tone like she was telling me she didn't want me to go. Then she started saying "tiss, tiss, tiss" until I gave her a kiss and when I called out "love you" to DH before going out she called back "love too!" . Bless her, feel really guilty leaving the DCs to go to work, only 2 evenings a week but they don't like me going (I suspect they can't play their Dad up like they can me at bedtime...)

Aww Beckle, how sweet!

Am total awe of the counting toddlers!! I think DS tried to say brush teeth this morning - we always brush our teeth together, and I say to him "brush your teeth, Daniel". It was kinda of garbled but I think that is what he said!

Cazzy - poor you, I think you get checked out, just in case.

Feel like sh!t today, back aching, sore throat, very tired, probably got swine flu lol. Luckily arranged my schedule so not working tonight.

Anyway DS is sound asleep in our bed... we've been mucking about with his bedtime too much, and besides, DSS will be coming up tomorrow and I don't think he fancies sleeping on the floor lol

No, Skid, counting babies is not the norm - I know lots of two-year-olds who can barely talk, let alone count. There are just a couple of genius babies on here, but in the end they mostly all catch up! (have to say though I think Clairey's two might be on University Challenge in a few years time...)

Clairey - funny you said that about the sciency questions as we're having the same problems and I was coming on Mumnset to see if anyone could recommend a book with answers to these sort of questions. We recently had "how do bees make honey" (and she meant actually make it, not the collecting nectar bit) and "how do they make sellotape". She is also obsessed with things like sewers and where water goes etc.

It's nearly 7.30am and dd2 is still asleep! (dd1 woke at 6.30am though and is now watching Milkshake...).

Clara it's a nightmare, I don't seem to have the answers to any of her questions at the moment. I can usually answer the initial one eg shadow is sometimes longer depending on where the sun is in the sky but then she just keeps on asking more and more questions until we reach a point where I haven't a clue! Luckily my sister is a physicist so I can pass some of them on to her . Yesterday she was asking all about the wind and clouds (I did better on the clouds cos we learnt that in GCSE geography ). If you do find a good book then let me know.

BT hope you feel better soon and it isn't the dreaded flu

Clara I must admit I'm often thankful I did sciences at school and have a degree in geology as it often comes in handy!! At least it used to - now my 7 yo comes home and quizzes me on things like which planet is furthest from the sun and I'm useless at remembering facts and figures.

Poor you BT - that does sound like flu. Apparently in NZ now about 90% of flu cases are swine flu. They are now offering the regular flu vaccine free to everyone so I guess it will soon be 100%!

Didn't have that zoo visit in the end this week beckle but I will be up there anyway next week as its school hols here now for 2 weeks and DD1 is attending their school holiday programme for 3 days.

SpiralQueen - the suggestion was that she might be allergic to fungal spores which are more prevalent in damp weather hence why cough came on as the weather got colder.

DD1 came back from her Dad's today to say that he (or rather his wife) had a son on Wed which is a bit of a surprise as he wasn't due until 1 Sept so is 8 weeks early. They have called him Finlay. I must admit I'm very glad to have DD2 or else I know I'd be feeling very sad and jealous right now whereas all I feel is a bit of sadness for them as the next few weeks will be tough. He's in ICU apparently and can't breathe on his own, is being fed through a tube etc. She also asked me tonight if she could go and see him again soon (she would normally be with me for the next week) - so I will ring ex-H tomorrow to see what we can organise. The only problem is that he's never even acknowledged directly to me that they were expecting!!

gosh buzzy - must feel very wierd knowing exH has another child. Poor little mite as well, hope he pulls through OK. Has your DD been to see him yet?

clara and cazzy - thank goodness counting babies is not considered normal - I was beginning to worry! I even counted up all Milo's words (as many as I could remember anyway) and only counted a paltry 19!

clairey and clara - my DD also asks impossible questions particularly in relation to biology although tbh I am pretty stumped at 'what kind of tree is that?' let alone the more complex ones. DD asked me something the other day and I said (as I often do) that I didn't know and she said, never mind we can ask daddy. I said I didn't think daddy knew either and she looked at me incredulously and said, 'of course daddy knows, he knows everything. you and me know some things, but daddy knows everything' - obviously DH was absolutely delighted at this (until I reminded him what Socrates said - 'wisest is she who knows she knows nothing'!)

Beckle - that is soooo sweet about your DD not wanting you to go and asking for a tiss! DS is a bit like that as well. Yesterday he bit me (through overexcitement) and I put him down and gave him a firm no and walked away. Oh his little face crumpled and he cried as if his heart was breaking . Even DH was saying to him, don't worry mummy still loves you! As soon as picked him up he flung his arms around me and kissed me all over my face saying mamamamam - so cute!

BT - sorry you're feeling so rubbish - hope it is not the dreaded swine flu (although I don't think swine flu is supposed to be any worse than normal flu)

Still feeling rubbish, tired, run down, back aching, sore throat, but don't think it is flu as I can still walk

And ds showed his evil side by smacking men I me around the head with his toy cars when I was laying on the sofa. And slapping me as well
And when I tell him "no" he thinks it is funny, and does it even more.

99% time he is my cute, cuddly, sweet little boy - but he hates it when he thinks I am ignoring him and suddenly turns in to a violent offender

BT , hope you'll feel a lot better soon and its not the dreaded flu. Sounds like Daniel is perfectly normal to me! DD doesn't like me not being on call to play with her immediately either, I laid down on the sofa earlier and she was trying to lift my head up! Also she laughs and smiles when I tell her 'no', yesterday she kissed me when I told her off - how can you not scoop them up and hug them when they do that?!

Buzzy that must be a bit odd, fingers crossed for the baby though, hopefully he'll be fine. How is DD1? Good luck with that phone call in the morning, I'm sure it'll be fine.

Talking of the flu and such, I have heard this evening that Swine Flu has reached my town with almost 50 diagnosed cases in the last 48 hours. One of the people who've come down with it today is connected to one of my closest friends (works for her husband's best mate, they spend lots of time together), our youngest DCs are very close. I can't see it's not going to make it our way at some point soon . Also not sure if it is a good thing or bad thing to get it now or in the Autumn? Am terrified more than a little worried I have to say, reasonably stocked up on Calpol though, just need to get in some adult painkillers. There are some times when it is a pain that you can only buy 2 packs at once!

We're actually wondering whether we've had swine flu and don't realise it - both of us had fever, cough etc and both dd's were feverish for a while before we went away. How are we meant to know???

Thing is, it hasn't occurred to me to get confirmed, no point going to my GP as I will never get an appointment. So I wonder for how many "confirmed cases" there are cases, such as mine or Claraq's that don't get reported because we have it mild enough to not warrant going to a GP?
I'm feeling a little better this morning, DH said I had a fever yesterday night, I had been complaining of being cold but he said I was roasting hot! Still have sore throat, stiff aching neck though. And feel very hot and sweaty still

Aaaaargh ds is having tantrum after tantrum at the mo, proper throwing himself on the floor screaming til he chokes ones. Over NOTHING as well. He gets it from his dad

BT and anyone else poorly hope you feel better soon

Clairey isn't it fun? Pre-DD I was under the fond impression that this wouldn't start until they were 2. I suppose the terrible one and a half's isn't quite so catchy

I was doing the morning handover with the nursery staff this morning when DD piped up "Go away". That put me in my place

Feeling much better today, hooray!

Spiralqueen - poor you, heartless dd!! Soon puts you in your place doesn't it! I either get totally ignored, or he clings to my legs and sobs his heart out when I take him to nursery!

Evening all. Not on for long as am supposed to be in middle of date night but wanted to pop by, wave at everyone, hope that swine flu improves and drop in casually and subtley that it rather appears that I'm pregnant!!!!

Not an accident - as you guys know ( in fact as only you guys know) DH and I had started to have a chat or two about DC3. Turns out that the day I had my massive "aaaarggggh shall I have another one?" MN rant and skid pointed out that I was probably ovulating, I was. and

Have joined skid on AN March 2010 which means that but for a matter of 20 days I will have been pregnant every year from 2005 - 2010!!

congraulations

Wow Arcadie fast work Many congratulations although I'm not sure about being pg every year

BT Glad you're feeling better. Got a big welcome from DD when I picked her up - how fickle is that. LOL. Mind you she then went on to stop at the fountain outside nursery and was dipping her hands in it and washing her face as the other parents strolled by

Thanks cazzy your congratulations mean a lot considering all you've been through. I was going to avoid posting because I didn't want to be tactless in view of people wanting to ttc and having mc but I appreciate the support I get from MN esp in the early days when you can't tell anyone else.

Thanks too SQ I know on the fast work. I suspect I might get some considerably less polite comments from friends and family!!!

Congrats Arcadie

Congrats Arcadie - I guess that's taken the stress out of trying to decide!!

I have a headache brought on from ringing letting agents, confirming cots will be available in holiday cottages, sorting out electricians to check all our electrical goods for the tenants, ordering playhouses and children's games and good books and all the other things we might not be able to get in St Lucia, sorting out unwanted clothes to give away, buying three million nappies to take with us as they cost twice as much out there (and wipes), trying to think of a way to upgrade our seats on the flight....Oh and looking after a tantrummy 19 months old and a three-when-am-i-four-year old (soon, Emma, soon).

....etc etc etc. I wake up in the night with my chest so tight from stress I can't breath.

BUT. In only just over 2 weeks time we'll be leaving our house, have a week at the Cotswold Water Park, another week at a farm in Devon, a couple of nights at a hotel near Gatwick and then we're off.

So BREATH DEEPLY Clara, gulp, gulp, gulp....

Clara - that's really multi-tasking with a vengeance, let's hope you can relax a bit at some point.

I guess you'll be feeling pretty nomadic by the time you get to St Lucia and will be pleased to stop living out of a suitcase.

Deep breaths for now though

sorry that was a horribly me me me post!

arcadie - just seen you on the March antenatal thread!!! Can't bloody believe it!! Congrats

clara - poor you - sounds hugely hugely stressful. Great idea to take a holiday before you go though - hopefully that will help you wind down a bit before your big adventure. And I reckon you can be pretty confident that the move to St Lucia will be significantly less traumatic that your move to Pakistan! Have you tried breathing exercises? Are you still seeing a counsellor? I hope you find a way to manage the stress until it is all over - at least in a few weeks you will be sunning yourself on a beach and hopefully all this will be a distant memory!

BT - glad you're feeling better. Could well have been swine flu. Aren;t doctors treating all cases of flu as swine flu atm?

clairey/SQ - sympathies on the tantrums. DS is not too bad so far but my God DD was horrendous. If it makes you feel any better, I reckon it could be because both your DC sounds very developmentally advanced and understand consequences better than most 18 month olds... And maybe their tantrums will therefore end earlier than other toddlers

Hey Clara, well done on all the organising, just think ou'll be relaxing soon!
Clairey/SQ I believe there is a well evidenced linkage between poor sleepers and high IQ. That's not to say all those with high IQ are poor sleepers of course...also early language skills.
As for tantrums, DrSkid could well be right! My DD doesn't tantrum often but when she does she can't seem to shake herself out of it and goes on and on and on.
She seems to be having increasing difficulty going to sleep at night too which is a pain - then needs to be woken in the morning to go to creche. She's also running a million miles an hour right now, doesn't seem capable of just walking!
Congrats Arcadie, it was clearly meant to be