December 08 Supermums: We are all doing fine and our LOs love us!!

[kayzr]

Hello.

Trace I went with your idea!!

I just realised that post was pretty much all about food. Sorry for those trying to lose weight. I am so hungry these days with all the feeding it's all I seem to think about!

OMG!!!!!

In conception there is thread for ttc a December 2009 baby!!! I can't believe it was a year ago already that we were all trying!! I posted them a good luck message!

Hello my lovely girls

Just a quick one from me - I have been reading but not posting due to speed. I did a HUGE post on Mon evening as DH out but my computer decided to switch itself off as I pressed post and I haven't had time to redo.

Am off out for lunch shortly but just wanted to bookmark. All well here - Bisou, your DS looks very like mine, so much so that DH asked if I'd uploaded pictures of our young fellow to MN!!! They are both very beautiful.

DH out tonight so will try to post properly then. Love to all XXXXX

WHere's the fatties' thread gone? I have fallen off it (no doubt with the sound of a falling tree, crushing villages as I hit the ground) and need to get back on.

Could a kind person please do me a link? Thanks.

Good to see you, Bisou. And yes, your DH is a fox As are you of course. You sound like you are coping really well. Good on yer.

Sorry to all the sickies, Summer with your cold and Kayz with your yucky sounding virus. Wasn't Summer a character on that US series...full of youngsters...The O.S. or something like that, it was. I did laugh about Jump's neighbour though. I knew a girl called Sunny - mind you, that was a nickname - heaven knows why as, again, Tantrum might've been a better choice, or Thunder.

Which reminds me a bit of my sister's pet rabbit, Thumper. I called mine....Bumper. It seemed logical at the time (I was about 7).

Verso, how are you? Any better?

I greatly enjoyed Ros's and Oli's exchange about Spiderman lyrics but I must admit I think Oli's DC has improved upon genius with his version. A Tim Rice in the making

Cat, I am pleased to hear you sounding chipper. You have done brilliantly. I was a similar baby to your LO and my Mum still goes on about it 35/6 years on (but they never really got to the bottom of it). I was disappointed not to meet the pair of you at the N London meet up the other week and hope to see you one day!

Going back to Summer and Indith's chat about how much babies sleep, fwiw DD has a feed at 11.30pm or 12 then we go to bed, then anything between 4 and 5 and then about 8-8.30. Sometimes there are freaky nights of course when she sleeps until 6 (or 3!) I am going to experiment by giving her a bigger feed before we go to bed.

Thanks for all your good wishes about DP and the car. His neck still hurts from the whiplash, and his leg where I think he braced it. Basically we are just counting ourselves lucky that he is ok. It's annoying about the car and a nuisance being all out here, but sod that really. It was an ancient Mercedes and we loved it, but it wasn't worth a lot moneywise, hence the probable writeoff.

Hi Syb, it's here

yy, family Bisou v good looking - and I love the dress! Must be odd having someone else coverig 'your' role on maternity leave though.

Sleep: glad to hear other people are getting the baby late to bed as well! DS2 goes to bed with me at 10:30/11, asleep 11ish and on a good night (liker last night, awake for a feed at 3 and 6, then wakes up at about 7:30 for the day. He's sleepy most of the morning, has a nap 9/10ish and then a looong sleep over lunch, I usually have to wake him at around 1:30 for a feed before we go out again in the afternoon (he falls asleep at about 11 and sleeps after the feed till about 3. Then mostly awake with short naps till the night. He's gradually starting to spend more of the day awake, he used to be asleep all morning as well as most of the afternoon!

Hello all,
interesting all the sleep talk, and good to know that DS is quite normal. I realise that i sounded a bit of a thicky asking about whether babies sleep through from 7-7ish eventually if you are lucky, but i was thinking it would be so far down the line that DS would not really be a "baby" any more if you see what I mean! God, if he would do that at 6 months that would be wonderful.

So I have a bad cold. Am happy though as last night i thought it was flu as I felt really hot and totally awful (too ill to go to the pub for me and DHs FIRST SINCE DS PLANNED NIGHT OUT). Which was a bummer. But I think it was just lack of sleep and a bad cold combined as i feel much better todayl.

i agree re bisou and her family. you are all very glam looking! I definitely want to see a photo of Bisou in the dress!

Cat good to see you back! Glad you are getting more sleep and things are starting to settle down.

So, other news from here. So i didn't know whether to post the following, partly because if I invite jj round for a cup of tea she may never come....but I just have to relate it anyway.

Yesterday I left the front door open for a while as I was putting out several sets of rubbish/recycling etc. And later in the day I went into the hall to see a LARGE RAT run down my stairs and into the lounge! This was not a bloody mouse, no, it was a big massive sod off rat. So I phoned DH and cried (I was tired, ok?), and he came home to help me evict it. Cue 20 mins of DH chasing said rat around the dining/living room, with me standing guard at the top of the stairs to stop it going up (I am very useful me, obviously when it set one foot on a stair, this involved me squealing very loudly and getting ready to flee). And it kept JUMPING UP the broom DH was using to try and get it out. God it was horrible, and I had nightmares about it last night. At the time DH was saying "Oh it's cute, its not that big, poor thing, it's so scared" but then apparently he told our friends that it was massive and scary so I think he basically agreed with me but was trying to calm me down.

This is almost definitely caused by next door scummy sharers (we call them students but I think they may actually be drug dealers by trade) who permanently have bin liners of rubbish outside that have been there for weeks and won't fit into their bin so the bin men never take it away. I have finally got round to reporting it to the council so I hope they come and get the rubbish and give next door a talking to about sorting themselves out.

Anyway DS is asleep so I should go make use of my freedom for a little while and do something round the house!

Right...baby poo talk (apologies)

DS (totally bf) hasn't poo-ed for nearly 4 days, I know this can happen but he farts all the time and it really stinks!!! Like sulpher tbh...is this normal? I didn't think bf baby poo was supposed to smell so bad.

I don't know daisy but I would be very afraid when it finally appears!!! If DS doesn't poo for 2 days then they are massive and leak everywhere.

BTW at the rat incident summer I would have had bags packed and been out the house pending full investigation by pest control. You and your DH did very well

I know I fear we will be in public, and as I lift him from his pram he'll be swimming in it. Last time he went 3 days at most - it too was everywhere

Summer - Oh.My.God.

One leapt out of Bumper's (said long ago rabbit of childhood) hutch once, that was bad enough.

But making free round the house????

Daisy, if you are exclusively bf are you allowed to give your DS water from a bottle? That's what the HV suggested we do with DD if she ever gets bunged up (and it works)

oh my god I would pass out Summer if the rat incident happened here!! At least you got rid of it

My DS still goes to bed when I go around 11 and then it varies from day to day how he sleeps but tends to do a big 5 or 6 hour chunk at night which is pretty good. My other two were nearly one by the time they slept through properly so am preparing myself for a long haul of sleepness nights. In fact DS1 still wakes around 6am which is the middle of the night in my book

Summer I feel your pain. We had a rat in the flat ds was born in, made dh shriek like a girl . I opened the cupboard to get bread and noticed it had been nibbled then 2 mins later a large rat emerged and scuttled across the floor . If you ring the council they should come and sort them out for you as they count as a pest. The nice man from our council came round, put poisen down then went to check the next door houses, of course the bloody students next door had been having them for ages and even had a dead one decomposing behind the cooker and stinking the place out but had not done anything abut it.

We had yummy stuffed pancakes last night, was very tasty. What dh doesn't know is that I used the left over batter to make myself sweet pancakes before he got home

Wish the sleep talk had never started now seeing all these 1 or 2 feed a night babies! Dd is up for the day about 6 (eyes ping open and that is it, playtime) naps at 7/7.30 ish. Up, awake for a bit then sleeps most of the rest of the morning as we go out with ds. Awake over lunch then I put ds down for his nap, play with dd a bit and feed her and she goes down around 1 for a good sleep. THen she is awake until bathtime with maybe a cat nap around 5 or 6. Bath at 6.30, feed and bed at 7. Feed anywhere between 10 and 1 then about 2 hours later. After that she dozes and fusses and wriggles and squirms and cries out and snuffles and I lose the plot and don't know if she is hungry or windy or just generally fussy and I spend the whole of the rest of the night alternating between soothing her, feeding her and ignoring her until the fussing turns to crying. The daft thing is she wants to be asleep, she doesn't try to wake and play or anything until 6. Keep having to remind myslef that ds was similar and that it did settle at some point. Ds was in his own room for various reasons and a very frequent feeder so I would feed him then dh would spend ages by his cot settling him and I remember many nights at 4am with dh cycling ds's legs to wind him and arguments between as as to whether he was hungry or just fussing. Then at some point night feeds became 5 min jobs, wake, feed, sleep.

daisy - dd2 is totally BF and had a little phase of saving her poos for 3 or 4 days then exploding dramatically! And yes with very stinky farts - I think it's fine as long as they are not in pain when they do finally poo and that it's not hard to pass. P has gone the other way and her poo really runny. Not as thick as yogurt but not as runny as water - can't think of an in-between substance!

eeeeeww to your rat Summer!!!! in our first house we had a nasty smell which we couldn't get rid of - had the gas fire checked but it wasn't that...then DH took up the floorboards near the smell and found a very very large fat rat (dead). Very gross. We got rid of it and spoke to our next door neighbours, who said they'd had a rat problem, so the council had put down rat poison.Their house was council owned but ours wasn't. The houses were terraced and apparently under the floor boards they was one long open space under all the houses, so the rats had eaten the poison then run under our house to die and emit their stench!!

Summer, I also feel your pain re rats. We have a mouse problem which is bad enough! And we had a slug problem in one of my student houses which was horrible! But get the council round, they should check the problem out for free as it is a pest problem.

Daisy, I think you're going to need nosepegs at the ready when that one finally goes!

Am to hear DC's news.

Sleep & feeding, ds2 usually wakes up at 7am, has a bottle, has about 30min nap around 9-ish, bottle at 11am, will then sleep until about 2pm, bottle at 3pm, 30min nap around 5/5.30, bath 6-ish, bottle 7pm, then bed, bottles again at 11pm & 3am.

It doesn't sound that bad when you write it out like that!

apologies for bad grammar/ spelling. My fingers will not obey my brain.

Does anyone else feel like they've got mild dementia? I keep finding that I want to say something but the wrong word comes out, or I have a complete blank - like I know it's in there somewhere but just our of reach! And my memory is appalling - yesterday I truly could not recall what I'd had for lunch

Indith - please don't feel bad about the good sleepers...I think these babies all have their moments yours will probably wean beautifully while a good sleeper spits out every mouthful!

So has anyone given anything up for Lent?
I've not! There's no point in me trying to give up chocolate because I think the shock would be too much for my body to cope with! I thought about giving up Facebook or Mumsnet, but then that's a bit like giving up friends/ communication and may well lead to insanity!

Trace, I have given up chocolate & cake as I was eating a ridiculous amount of it!

Yuk yuk yuk yuk to rats Summer. I nearly screamed out loud when you said it ran...aaaahhh.... up the broom oooooooooh eeeeeeeeek. I have to say though UK rats are measley things compared to what we had back home. I actually thought the rats we had in London where mice compared to the evil rats on acid we had in Sydney. We used to go for a walk around Rushcutters bay and these massive foot long beasts would be sneaking about.

As far as sleep goes, ds1 didn't sleep through until 18months and even then not every night of the week. Ds2 currently wakes up a couple of times overnight no idea what time. He usually wakes for the day around 7 then spends the rest of the day alternating an 60 to 90 mind awake and 45 to 60 mind asleep unless we go for a walk then he spends the entire time asleep in the sling or pushchair. Then he has his bath at 5 and asleep by 6. It appears that I have a GF baby which is amusing as I am a very unroutine type mother. But that is what he has decided for himself and he is happiest sleeping in his cot!!!! We love co-sleeping!!! But I'm not assuming it will stay that way. Ds1 was different in that he didn't like sleeping on his cot during the day he preferred the pushchair out for a walk but he was pretty much the same overnight except for the 6pm bedtime (ds1 screams the house down if we are any later) ds1 was more like 8 or 9pm, then at around 4 months ds1 started waking for feeds every 2 hours for what seemed like forever. We tried starting solids early as the HV suggested but that was a disaster and I think the reason he is such a fussy eater. I think he just wanted more milk and maybe as I have said before I was training too much from that time due to triathlon season coming up and maybe milk needed more fat (if it happens again will be having some of your daily hot chocolates JJ).

Ds1 was really unsettled again last night and was really cool to touch I was a little worried but he was fine this morning and seems to have turned a corner, his spots seem less nasty looking.

Also good news dh has discovered he can do the rest of his work at home so he is coming home tonight hooray. I will be able to go to pilates tonight.

Oh and poo wise ds2 was hanging on for up to a week then dumping a nasty on us. The last big one was while we were in London so it was in a disposable but he did it when I had to change him in a public toilet cubicle. There was no White left on the nappy. BF babies can go up to 10 days without a poo. Ds2 has entered a regular phase and is doing a big poo each morning, which he is always very pleased about. Oh and he has stinky farts, they smell like his poos.

I'm not giving up anything for lent I'm using the excuse that I'm not catholic but really I just can't bare to give up anything other than the washing up. Could I give up cleaning for lent!

Urrrrrrr, just made myself dizzy bouncing on the trampette.

Trace, I keep not being able to think of the right word. To the extent that last week I was seriously wondering whether some form of dementia was setting in.

Talking about changes since having a baby - sorry if this is too much information - my deodorant does not last the whole day any more! I stink! I have tried different brands as the anti-white marks one has always been less affective but am now forced to conclude it's me so now showering twice a day and topping up roll on. It's horrible! Could it be hormonal? DP thinks it might be stress. Well, I am perfectly happy but do feel hassled a bit due to not getting stuff done so it's possible I suppose.

Anyway, KMP, if you are checking in how is your trip panning out? Hope you are having a lovely time.

Lent - my only vice is wine and I am too weak to give that up.

Oh and on the dementia front whilst pregnant I was talking to another friend about how we were forgetting stuff including remembering names of objects, I wanted to say I was having trouble with word association but I could remember the term, word association.

Ladyt I am stinky too, if I don't put deodorant on straight after the shower I smell within 5 mins. Oh and you can get white stains off underarm bits of clothes with vodka.