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kayzr · 04/02/2009 20:16

Hello.

Trace I went with your idea!!

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Verso · 15/02/2009 03:21

Am not up to date on thread, sorry. Bit of a challenging week this week. Picture the scene: after another four days/nights of no sleep I had managed to get DD2 down for a nap. I had just put my head down when the phone rang and woke us both up - and the caller hung up when I answered without leaving a message! It was the final straw. I cracked and just left my mother with DD2 and walked out . I think I may have PMT/cyclical hormones starting, even though no period as yet, and I had just had enough.

I only left the house for two hours in total but Mum and DH were so shocked/panicked they have been being a bit more supportive since. In the meantime, I am so run down I have got about the fifth cold since DD2 was born and have now completely lost my voice because I foolishly went to choir yesterday regardless. We have DD2's Baptism today and loads of family and friends coming but I can't speak .

Highlight of the week though is that DD2 has slept for six hours straight, then five, two nights in a row . Pity she's not doing in tonight (which is why I'm up). Tonight is back to every hour on the hour - I think she's got what I've got and is feeling rubbish... at least I know she CAN sleep though, which is a huge improvement .

EffiePerine · 15/02/2009 08:09

Oh Verso, sorry you're unwell and stressed. Hope the effect on your DH and DM lasts - parenting on zero sleep is tough. I'm sure your DD will get back to her long sleeps after the cold goes

Slightly better night fir us last night, after a few days/nights of constant feeding DS2 slept 11-3 . Unfortunately DS1 is full of cold and woke at 3 and 6 too... he has now barricading himself in behind a cardboard box and is happily shredding some polystyrene packing - more to clear up (sigh)

kayzr · 15/02/2009 09:01

Morning,

Verso Sorry you have been unwell, Hope you both get better soon.

We had a great night here. DS2 slept from 11 until half 6. I was very very suprised to see the time when he woke us up.

Yesterday wasn't too bad except I realised this morning that I had missed the rugby.

Hope everyone is ok.

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traceface · 15/02/2009 11:24

good morning!
Verso - so sorry you are having it so tough. I really hope DH and DM realise that this is serious and they must help you. I really hope you manage to enjoy dd's baptism today and that all the family and friends are not too overwhelming for you. Try and get as much rest as you can - easier said than done, I know. Am thinking of you xxx

Phoebe slept pretty well last night, although the snot still wakes her up, but unfortunately while she was sleeping I had my head down then toilet with mega-vomiting No idea why - have been feeling achy and headachy and exhausted for quite a few days and assumed it was the mastitis, but the boob feels better now so maybe it's just a bug. I feel so wobbly today. DH has taken dd1 to church so I can chill, but I've still got dd2 so I can't go back to bed! Still in Pjs though which feels very nice. The BIL is coming at 2 so must try to be less smelly by then!

Kayz -am impressed with you boy's sleep! Give him a gold star for that!

Effie - do you ever feel like there's no point cleaning up after your kids (or husband!) because they'll only make more mess later...

traceface · 15/02/2009 11:26

oh and I was looking at old photos of dd1 yesterday - there is a picture of her at 10 months old wearing the outfit that dd2 wore yesterday at 9 weeks! I had not remembered just how tiny dd1 was! It's unbelieveable! The all in one coat that Phoebe wore home from hospital 2 days old is the one in the pictures of dd1's first holiday at 10 months!

majormoo · 15/02/2009 15:54

kayzr that is really sad for your sister.

Turnip/Jam those photos are lovely. Turnip the family pool thing sounds lovely.

Verso hope you feel better soon and get enough support from your family.

We had an odd valentine's day here. Had to drive from Brighton to Islington for a christening in the morning and-for various reasons, we managed to miss the whole service. Queue HUGE strop from me. Then at the party in a pub afterwards, there were loads of babies but not many older children-so we spent our time running around after the kids while everyone else chatted and drank champagne (well as I am from the slummy mummy school of breastfeeding I still managed the champagne). Once we got home and got kids to bed, DH then got upset about his parents and the way they are treating the kids, which led to discussions about how he was brought up etc. All in all an exhausting day. Still-he did cook me moules marinere which I have been desperate to eat since having DS2.

Am supposed to be relaxing with just DS2 while the DH takes the others to the park but have just made myself bawl my eyes out. A friend of ours lives in Malaysia and called me the other day to talk about a friend of theirs who died just before Xmas. Their friend went to a Christmas party, got a bit drunk and managed to leave the party and stumble down a ravine and die. I just foolishly watched a montage thing on Facebook, which showed so many lovely photos of him with his wife and two year old. Just the thought of DH going to a party and getting drunk and never coming home. I would be so bloody angry with him. Anyway on that cheery note am off to feed DS2.

artichokes · 15/02/2009 22:01

Hi there supermums ,

Trace - I am glad your breast is feeling better but horrified to hear you have been so sick. How hideous for you. I hope you feel better soon.

Turnip - Love your pics. You have a way with the camera. I also love the sound of the birth pool ritual, just gorgeous.

Verso - Sorry to hear you are poorly and have had a few more bad nights. At least it sounds like your DH and DM are taking some notice.

Major - What a valentines day you had. I hope it was cathartic rather than depressing.

Well we have had a pretty busy weekend here (nothing by LadyT's usual standards but for us it was a social whirl!). Yesterday I had a night out at my fav restaurant with 10 friends and evn went to a bar afterwards. It was fab and even better because DD2 settled well for DH and took a bottle.

Then today we met 16 friends AND all their kids for a pub lunch (lucky pub ) and then went from there to another friend's birthday tea party on the other side of town. Both girls behaved brilliantly throughout and I was so proud. We dressed them both in their PJs for the drive home and they both nodded off and we got to carry them in to bed all sleepy and warm - too cute. DD2 has however paid us back for over stimulating her with a busy day - she has been up and down all evening - v unsettled. I hope its not a bad night as I am knackered now.

xx

waitinggirl · 16/02/2009 02:58

hello all - question from the middle of the night. ok, so we're glad our dd is sleeping lots at night (currently still asleep from her 7.15pm feed) - but is that going to stop my milk supply? am i supposed to be expressing in order to keep it up? i still have the fear of the plastic sucking machine, although i don't know why - haven't tried it yet.

this is ridiculous - thought she was going to wake at 1.30am - woke up with her snivelling, but she was still asleep, and i now can't go back, constantly thinking she will wake up. arse.

SummerLightning · 16/02/2009 04:55

No I don't think so wg. Just feed when they need it.
Hope you are back asleep now!

kayzr · 16/02/2009 08:36

Morning,

DS2's 7 hours were a fluke as he was back to his normal waking at quarter to 5. But DS1 also got up and was dreadful, he refused to go back to sleep either in our bed or his. So DH got up and let me have a lie in!!!

Hope everyone is ok this morning.

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JamInMyWellies · 16/02/2009 08:41

WG your supply will adjust accordingly. L has his bedtime feed from me then doesnt boob feed again until he wakes during the night, which can make my boobs a bit sore so I try to express before bed as last night it was 4.30.

Nolda · 16/02/2009 08:42

I don't think so either, WG. I guess she is eating more in the daytime and you will soon adjust. Just try and enjoy the extra sleep but I know that's easier said than done. DH says that I slept with my head in the moses basket with DD and suffered major separation anxiety when we moved her into the cot, all of 1 metre away!.

Verso, sorry you have been having such an exhausting time. I hope the baptism went well and that you enjoyed the day.

Arti, hope you are not tired out by your busy weekend. I'm a little of your night out but I have only myself to blame as I also have the fear of the plastic sucking machine.

daisydora · 16/02/2009 10:03

Morning all,

DS has yet another cold...major snot my poor little man can hardly breath. Still he hasn't been sleeping too badly under the circumstances.

Had a great night out on Valentines, although I had too much wine fell asleep and never heard DS in the night . Thankfully DH did and gave him a bottle of EBM, but I awoke to rock hard boobs as I was too tipsy to express any before bed!!! Still it does mean we have loads now as I was expressing for England in the morning as I felt great from my bid sleep

verso sorry to hear you've been having a tough time. I hope your christening went well

LadyThompson · 16/02/2009 10:57

Hello dearies,

Hope things have picked up, Verso. Arti, sounds like a smashing weekend!

Not sure what I have been doing but I seem to have been busy. Err...well, Saturday, we went for lunch at one of Oxford's very few decent restaurants with DD for a treat, then in the evening we had a babysitter for three hours as we went to see Revolutionary Road. I thought it was very good and a decent adaptation of the book (even the performances were terrific and I haven't previously cared for either Kate Winsome or Leonardo da Vinci) - however, it really upset and depressed DP and he said though he thought it was a really fine piece of work he'd had a miserable evening. Oh dear. Not a good Valentine's Day flick perhaps.

Yesterday, I did a spot of exercising and a lot of tidying up. But the funny thing is, DD seems to have lost the supremely sunny disposition she has had ever since she was born. She seems to have learned to scream and it's a bit of a shock. She just seems a bit grumpy and sensitive nowadays, even when fed and clean, and we just can't work it out. I'm quite philosophical about it and actually think it's a learning phase and signs of growing awareness, but her father is taking it quite hard. I wonder if it's also because he has decided to get all hardline on DD about the dummy. I am relaxed about it and she can have it as much as she likes (I should add that I am not silly with it and don't give it to her to shut her up or if she is hungry, but it helps her to get to sleep or comforts her if nothing else will). DP keeps reading this Jo Frost book which one of his friends recommended to him (groan - he is very susceptible to what other people say when it comes to baby rearing and it drives me mad) and I feel like chucking it out of the window. My view is the books are only a guide and babies differ so wildly, it's best if you go on your own instincts what is best for your child.

Anyway...we are going to Bilbao over the Easter weekend, all three of us, so that's going to be interesting. So I need to do the passport thing pronto. Any old hands got tips on getting the infant photographed?

LadyThompson · 16/02/2009 10:57

Hello dearies,

Hope things have picked up, Verso. Arti, sounds like a smashing weekend!

Not sure what I have been doing but I seem to have been busy. Err...well, Saturday, we went for lunch at one of Oxford's very few decent restaurants with DD for a treat, then in the evening we had a babysitter for three hours as we went to see Revolutionary Road. I thought it was very good and a decent adaptation of the book (even the performances were terrific and I haven't previously cared for either Kate Winsome or Leonardo da Vinci) - however, it really upset and depressed DP and he said though he thought it was a really fine piece of work he'd had a miserable evening. Oh dear. Not a good Valentine's Day flick perhaps.

Yesterday, I did a spot of exercising and a lot of tidying up. But the funny thing is, DD seems to have lost the supremely sunny disposition she has had ever since she was born. She seems to have learned to scream and it's a bit of a shock. She just seems a bit grumpy and sensitive nowadays, even when fed and clean, and we just can't work it out. I'm quite philosophical about it and actually think it's a learning phase and signs of growing awareness, but her father is taking it quite hard. I wonder if it's also because he has decided to get all hardline on DD about the dummy. I am relaxed about it and she can have it as much as she likes (I should add that I am not silly with it and don't give it to her to shut her up or if she is hungry, but it helps her to get to sleep or comforts her if nothing else will). DP keeps reading this Jo Frost book which one of his friends recommended to him (groan - he is very susceptible to what other people say when it comes to baby rearing and it drives me mad) and I feel like chucking it out of the window. My view is the books are only a guide and babies differ so wildly, it's best if you go on your own instincts what is best for your child.

Anyway...we are going to Bilbao over the Easter weekend, all three of us, so that's going to be interesting. So I need to do the passport thing pronto. Any old hands got tips on getting the infant photographed?

LadyThompson · 16/02/2009 10:57

Don't for the life of me know why that posted twice. Sorree.

waitinggirl · 16/02/2009 11:34

ladyt - we got dd photos at a photographic shop that has a special little cushion on the floor for babies - it's in crouch end, not far from tomorrow's meet up location (a drive, though) in case you are still able to make it. mind you, i'm sure other photographic places do it. Rev Road looks a bit dismal for me at hte moment, although v good, as you say.

am feeling pretty low - am letting my MIL infuriate me too much - it's getting beyond a vagina vagina (or fanny vag as dh calls her now) joke. i must be thankful that MIL is interested in her and delights in her, but it is hard when MIL is a woman who hates her life, hates her husband, hates her job, hates where she lives, is depressed (but won't admit it - that's weakness to her) and has now fixated all her life on my dd. she calls 3-4 times a week, doesn't ask about me or dh but only asks about her "little tuppence" - she stalked us to my dad's house on the weekend and phoned to let us know about all the different things she's bought dd. she also only talks in cliches - my daughter is an individual, has a personality and can be a right little shit - she isn't an angel all the time, but MIL just won't have it.

also getting worried about dd - she is vomming an awful lot, is very fussy on the boob, and i need to get her into some sort of routine of sleeping during the day (yeah, right). sorry for hte me post. blah blah blah...

JamInMyWellies · 16/02/2009 11:54

LadyT most places like jessops do passport babies or do it at home lie her on a white sheet and stand over her.

JollyBear · 16/02/2009 11:57

Hello ladies,

What busy weekends you have all had!

Well, we spent Valentines day on a day out with our friend. We've spent it with him and any other single friends who are at a loose end for years now and we've always been from the commercial hogwash school of thought when it comes to Valenties day. However, I think having DD it would have been good to be a bit sloppy for a change. That probably makes no sense!

DH and I had a row last night because DH.. I can't believe he did this... stuck his finger in the bottle to test the temperature . I called him a bloody idiot (which I feel was restrained in the circumstances) and he said he was fed up of being told off. Anyway, we cleared the air. I'm going to try not to shout and he is going to try not to be such a bloody idiot .

ladyT DH is similarly easily influenced, not by books but just by people at work/friends. "X says you shouldn't pick them up when crying because it spoils them" etc .

I'm off to get DD weighed this afternoon and will probably stay for the new mums club. I haven't made any mummy friends yet and think I really should make an effort. I'm scared they'll all be really cliquey!

WG I thought DD was getting into her own little routine re sleeping in the day. Awake all morning, sleep after lunch, again after tea, yet today she's thrown that all out the window in favour of sleeping all morning! SHe's keeping me on my toes perhaps? Is your DD's sickness a new thing? Might she have a little bug causing her to be a bit offish?

PinguRocks · 16/02/2009 12:00

Hello lovely ladies

I have been trying to keep up with all of you but have not really found the time to post.

We seem to be muddling through here. DD is still not keen on sleeping in the day but has finally spent a few hours of the night in her cot - hurrah to not waking up with back/neck ache from being propped up!

On the subject of self-settling, if only.... DD struggles to settle even with an army of props. She has however started to suck on her fist so maybe that will help!

Sympathies to those of you struggling with lack of sleep/MIL worries/etc....

JollyBear · 16/02/2009 12:02

Oh and whilst I remember... DH and our friend were in a shop browsing bottles of real ale and discussing how they liked SummerLightening. It made me titter!

SybilFaulty · 16/02/2009 14:48

at JB - I smashed a whole bottle of SL in Waitrose this am and thought of you as I did so. Twas an accident, though, rather than a ceremonial launch style smashing on the side of the trolley.

How was your new mums' club JB? I found my mum friends invaluable when I had DD1 and really saved me from going overboard a couple of times. I find round here you need to be quite brazen and ask people for numbers, suggest coffee / park etc. My DH does daft things like that as well - he gave DD2 some chocolate cake on his finger when she was about 4 months old and I went ballistic. Not really an ideal first weaning food.

How is DD now Waitinggirl? It could well be her cold which is unsettling her. I used to do stress about the amount of milk DD would bring up until my sister told me that it looks more than it is. If you measure a tbsp of water and throw it on your kitchen worktop, it looks a lot even though it is only about 15ml. As a result, each of her sick ups is probably only a few mls out of the many she has taken in, so probably quite a lot is still in her tummy. As for the MIL, sympathies. Do you have to talk to her? I have caller display so I know who's on the line and if it's MIL I tend to ignore the phone and let DH call her back. I would not take kindly to the stalking at all. COuld DH not have a gentle word? As for routines, we are a bit rough and ready here. M sleeps during the day for a stretch but this can be morning or afternoon.

LsdyT, am very envious of the Bilbao trip - lovely tapas,sherry, oh and the Guggenheim museum. DD will be greatle feted by the Spanish, who adore babies and will take her off your hands in every restaurant and bar. They will no doubt spirit her away into the kitchen to show off to their friends, while you and DP relax over your drinks or dinner. We took both girls away when they were very young and a good time was had by all. I think you are right about the grumpiness. Babies do seem to go in phases in my experience. Sympathies on the dummy, I think they can be a godsend for all.

Daisy I have slept through M's cries due to drink and had to be roused by the usually stone deaf DH to go and sort him out. I'm with you nolda and haven't expressed yet, as I can't be bothered. I've yet to accept an invitation where I can't take him along in the car seat but am going to a partu in 3 weeks and it would be good to leave him behimd.

Arti, your weekend sounds fun but exhausting. I am sure you made a wonderful sight out with all the children yesterday. We went to our local which was heaving with families, much to the chagrin of the few child free couples crammed between the bugaboos and P&Ts. Hope DD is settled and your night was not too bad.

Hello Kayz sorry you had a broken night.

Lovely pictures turnip Major am so sorry to read about your friend. How are you feeling now?

Verso, hope the christening went well.

Hello everyone else, sorry to miss people but M now squarking for food so need to be quick. All well here but half term so have all 3 kids for the rest of the week! I'll be needing some cheerfulness by friday. Had a lovely weekend, lots of things planned for this week and next weekend, plus just pottering around at home with M today. Our washing machine is buggered but my lovely neighbours have nobly stepped into the breach whilst John Lewis get their act tog to replace it. When the new one arrives on Friday, I have about 10 loads for it (as I can't really ask people doing emergency things to do sofa covers etc). House will resemble a laundry once more but at least it'll smell nice. Have done a load at my neighbours this am so had better feed M and then go and retrieve it. See you anon.

SummerLightning · 16/02/2009 15:58

Hi all,
Great weekend here, went to London for a friends birthday on Sat, just in the afternoon. For Valentines day we did our usual, which is order takeaway pizza, which we have done ever since we got together, we also don't do cards or presents! Very nice but not good for the diet.
Sunday I went for a nice bike ride, for 2hrs on my own, actually felt like I got some exercise, then a friend from London I haven't seen for ages came to visit! Then we had more friends round in the evening. So very busy, I had made DH promise to let me catch up on sleep but there just wasn't time (there would have been if I had slept instead of going cycling!), but lovely wonderful DS decided to sleep from 9:30 last night until 8:30 this morning, waking only once for an hour for a feed. So I feel wide awake today!

LadyT sorry to hear your DH didn't like Revolutionary Road. I guess it is a bit depressing and not really the ticket for a romantic night out! I liked it as well but I tend to not get depressed/upset by films (the exception being when I watched Hotel Rwanda on my own and DH came home to find me in bed crying! He said it served me right and there is a reason he doesn't watch films like that!)
On the subject of films, has anyone seen Benjamin Button (apart from jj who I saw it with!). I thought it was awful and pointless and really boring, and far too long! I thought it was meant to be good.

WG i hope DD is feeling better. I have had a bit of a cold and am hoping DS doesn't get it, as he seems a bit snotty but otherwise not worried!

Haha to all the SummerLightning references! Though you should not make me think of beer when I am at home on my own in the middle of the day! I still haven't read the book. Keep meaning to!

Am jealous of the nights out. i haven't had a good night out yet. Me and my friend were meant to be going out on Thursday but DH has reminded me we are going to Bristol/Somerset for the weekend, dammit. But next week I am meant to be going out for an evening bike ride and pub trip on Tuesday, as a biking friend is leaving the UK. So I am really looking forward to that, and am hoping that the pub part is longer than the biking part.

Oh and I am excited as I am getting a bike trailer that I can transport DS in this week. I am not sure how confident I will be with it for getting into town though, may be a bit scared, we shall see. Lots of people seem to use them round here though, so the drivers should be used to them.

traceface · 16/02/2009 18:57

hi all! just a quick hello from me
Am trying to feed P lots to tank her up for a few hours but she keeps letting go of my nip to give me a big cheeky smile

tomorrow i'm taking my dds and one of dd1's friends to an indoor play place for the morning then doing them an indoor picnic in a den ( Lucy's request!) so today we've been shopping for fairy cakes and other yummies!

have been reading all your posts but not had much time to reply...will try to chip in more soon.

hope you all have good nights xxx

katie3677 · 16/02/2009 20:30

I'm late, as usual, but I am very proud to report that I have lost another 6lbs, so am now 11 1/2 stone, only half a stone to go