June 2008 babies: rolling, sitting, crawling, babbling, teething, laughing, sleeping (not yet!)

[spongebrainbigpants]

New home!

It's not!

Just a quick hello and goodnight - does anyone know how I can go straight to my place in this thread with the new MN style? I used to go to threads I'm on and then go straight to the post I'd read last, now I keep on having to go to the start of the thread and finding where I am - annoying.

Btw, think we may have to think of a new abbreviation for babypearls other than Baby P - read it tonight and wondered what on earth we were talking about .

Right off to get some short sleep before my little man is awake again.

, I meant Baby Pearls of course, sorry

Could just call her by her actual name, seeing as it took two years to come up with......

Hi everyone - I'm still lurking... Having trouble keeping up, so sorry to everyone I miss (I miss you all!).

I am VERY impressed at all the authors on this thread.

Sorry to hear of those of you that are feeling down. Not great here ATM, PND now includes insomnia hence the late posting...

Neenz - Sorry to hear about your Nan. She's lucky to have you all around her. I hope she is as comfortable as possible.

Amber - Your poor sister. I seem to recall last time that the medical professionals were really dismissive, so I hope she is treated well this time. And yes, I concur, you are being stupid!

Puree - LOL at "Stealing smiles".

Discovered another tooth in Ry's mouth today, that's 5 so far. He sucks on my fingers so innocently and then clamps down - absolute agony, he's actually drawn blood...!

Good morning.

I'll start with positive - Adele slept through. Fantastic.
Unfortunately, ds2 took the opportunity to have a nightmare and come in to me at 5.30, and then fall asleep squished up right next to me snoring in my ear, which for some reason turned my milk supply into a fnzy and i promptly started leaking everywhere, so here am I, towel up pj top, knackered and haggared, even though beautiful baby is sleeping soundly

Essie - totally impressed . I loved the last sentence in the book description "this book will be a useful starting point for studying medieval Welsh law. " It just makes it sound so normal, that every household in the country has likley as not got someone in there who's either studying it or about to.

God, sorry I'm rambling, sleep deprived.

Amber, you're being an idiot.

pp - ouch. at least it was your fingers.

Someone tell me London hasn't had another foot of snow, and that my journey tomorrow is going to be fine.

Morning everyone, I'm up early as ds2 forgot at bedtime that he hadn't done all his homework, so he's doing it now!

Ernest - morning, glad Adele slept through Weird things sometimes set off my milk too!Fingers crossed for lack of snow in uk for you.

PP - sympathies for the insomnia on top of the PND, and Ryder is Ethan's teethy buddy 5 here too.

Ernest, London is fine, Devon got the snow last night.

PP hello. Sorry to hear about the insomnia to add to your woes.

I was wide awake a few times last night too. Won't bore you with the bed hopping that went on. In summary P sees fit to wake up hourly at the moment unless he is in bed with us.

Sponge - saw your sleep thread. So sad for you. I have a couple of suggestions, but thought I ought to get myself a baby who at least manages 2 hours sleep at a time before I start dishing out advice. We can talk about it on Monday anyway.

Morning all, yes any suggestions more than welcome Ali, I'm starting to dread bedtimes which is so sad as it used to be one of my favourite parts of the day .

Ernest, loved your comment about Essie's book - isn't everyone reading Welsh law?!

sponge sorry bedtimes are such a battle. DS is not great in that respect. We just let him fall asleep on us downstairs, if he doesn't do it then we take him to bed and watch a DVD while he goes to sleep. He also co sleeps at night but is very happy in his buggy at daytime! It means we don't get anytime to ourselves in the evenings but we know that it will pass one day (probably not for another couple of years!). It works for us and we don't have any bedtime stresses but I can see why others wouldn't like it.

Puree LOL at stealing smiles! When I was a nanny the toddler I looked after started to call his dad by his first name and his mum asked if I told him too - why would I do that?!

Amber The relationship between a child carer and mother is different and no one will ever replace you.

For those you you who have had a coil. How did it feel afterwards? I didn't have any pain at all on insertion but this morning I am really crampy and have lower backache. I was wondering how long that lasts?

is it Hilda?

goingto iirc I had lower back pain for a day, then it went away; then had a period-like bleed with some cramping a week later. Nothing really since then.

I feel so rubbish today, dp has moved up to ds' room, and C was in bed with me feeding on and off to get back to sleep all night. I am so tired. Everyone was screaming this morning, when I'm stressed everyone else is; then C tried to sproing out of my arms when I put her in the car and she hit the back of her head on the car door, I didn't manage to stop her, my reactions are so slowed down. I think she is OK but I feel awful .

I really don't mind a couple of night feeds, but this is unsustainable. I'm the driver of the family too so I can't be zombied out like this. It's become a health and safety issue now so controlled crying is now unavoidable. It did work to get our evenings back and she is eating really well during the day now, so I will just have to be strong and cut out night feeding - so I may be posting in the middle of the night for a few nights for support!

Fortunately I just have a data protection course today so no real work to do!

Hi all, haven't had time to post on this thread for the last few days - trying to keep up with you all! Deb, thanks for coming to look for me on the puree thread!

Had my first very bad mum moment yesterday when B rolled off the bed. We'd had an afternoon nap, and he was still sound asleep when I woke up, so I left him in bed. I put pillows along his side of the bed, but stupidly didn't bother along mine, as he was so far away from it, and I thought he would cry when he woke up and I would go and get him. I think he thought he was rolling towards me, and kept going. I heard a bang and then screaming. He's absolutely fine thank goodness, I think I was more upset than he was, but I won't be doing that again.

Systems, I still feel awful too, but as DP keeps telling me, they are tough little things, and they also forget really quickly. We are up a lot during the night still too, so huge sympathies - I don't know if I could cope with work too.

It's a lovely day here, and B is finally going off for his morning nap, once he's had that we're going for a nice long walk. Sorry for no other individual replies this time, but a big wave to you all and hugs for those who need them.

SA - you poor thing, there is nothing worse than sleep deprivation and you are right, if it is affecting you this badly it is better for you and the baby if you do something about it. Don't worry about the bump to the head, it happens. J fell out of his bumbo the other day and bumped his head on the kitchen floor (tiled). I felt awful but he is fine. It will be hard but you are doing the right thing, and we will all be supportive!

J is a bit better. He has breastfeed willingly today and he fed while asleep during the night. I am so relieved that at least that is better even if he is still spotty, miserable and crying at food at least something has got better. Also dh has managed to get home from the US (even though snowing heavily here) so I am no longer solely in charge ans I can't tell you what a relief that is!

SA and Sponge sorry you're both so exhausted. Thea's not sleeping well and I'm too tired to do anything about it, so not in a position to offer advice. I'm going to buy the No Cry Sleep Solution and check out the techniques in there.

Sybil glad things are a bit better today, and I know what you mean about sole charge. If things aren't going well with the children, I hate it when DH is away.

I saw my GP about my scary tummy today - I'd been dreading it but thought I had to do something as anything with a fixed waist is too painful. I'm wearing 2nd trimester trousers which is very demoralising. Anyway, she's given me the ok to do some pilates and said to come back in a few weeks if it's still uncomfortable. She also raised the possibility of surgery for the jabba the hutt effect. I'm keeping my head in the sand for now but it was very helpful to at least have it mentioned.

Thea is wearing the sweetest little sweater dress today. She looks adorable .

DD1 has renamed one of her dollies, and given it the same name as me. It's quite unnerving to hear her bossing it around!

Rolf - we have been doing NCSS for 4 weeks. Nights are still the same, but daytime naps are going in the right direction. I think it is hard to do nights properly when you are tired and craving bed, so we end up co-sleeping for at least some of the night. If I had more night time resolve maybe the nights would be improving consistently too. The thing I was going to suggest to Sponge from NCSS was a verbal sleep cue. I was a bit about this to begin with and felt like a numpty going "shh shh sleepy time" ad infinitum with the baby monitor on and DH listening in. However I now think it is helping.

We tried NCSS with ds but it took too long for us to see any improvement - it ended up being the more-crying no-solution for us! But it was extremely useful to read nevertheless, taught me loads about baby and child sleep patterns and gave a useful toolbox of techniques. (Although I found the writer a bit smug and judgey-judgey about other mothers who aren't quite as wonderfully nurturing as she is ...)

systems sorry to hear about the rough time you've been having. It's so hard when they don't sleep. I too have the NCSS on order

ali similar to you, I only ever really get up to 2 hours sleep at a time. Despite having 5 bottles a day and 3 meals, Alexander still wants to bf up to 4 times in the night. It's so hard going, especially as I'm now back at work

sponge sorry you're also suffering sleep problems

goingto we have also settled on a night time routine that suits us for now but which others would think is nuts. We put A to sleep in his pram around 8pm, and then bring him to bed with us around 10.30/11 and give him a bottle. He sleeps with us all night evey night. Unfortunately though he only sleeps for a couple of hours at a time, but he will not sleep at all in his cot. Even on nights when we've persisted to get him to fall asleep in his cot for up to 2 hours, he wakes up after 10/15 mins. This is too wearing for me, and would mean we wouldn't get any sleep at all

What?! There are households in the world where people aren't au fait with medieval Welsh law and may never consider studying it?

I may be gone some time...

just posting to mark my place - been awol as was in france then came home (in the snow - 6 hour eurostar journey ..joy) to find no modem access just as was stuck at home in the snow and dh heads off overseas... I tell you playhouse disney and cbeebies have been my fave channels this week .

just skimmed but will try to catch up - amber you're being a wally - you are luke's mummy - listen to pearls she knows (although reserver the right to get a stern talking to from pearls/deb etc if I have same issue when I go back to work).

deb have got hte toddler book adn will hunt out the quote now.

right better go as got to do bath before entertaining dss's g/f to dinner...

Hi poppy, good to see you back!

Evening all,

No time to catch up at the moment, but my first week has been a nightmare after the first day just an example of what I have had to face

On the other had Isaac has adored being at the CM or makes it easier for me as I don't have to worry, and he is really excited to see me when I get their to pick him up.

Loving all the snow too, although not the people who do not know how to drive in it, I feel quite smug as I took my first driving test in this kind of weather so know how to drive in it reasonably well.

Will try and catch up, but probably will not be very successful

Poppy - welcome back

HH - what fun you've been having eh? Not allowed to put it in their fridge - why???? Surely they didn't think they would get confused and add it to their coffee? Hope it gets resolved.

Essie - I wish you good luck in the battles ahead of you!

Hugs to those of you struggling with sleep deprivation. I wish I had some tips for you but I haven't, it either happens here or it doesn't.

Rolf - a doll called Rolf, how strange
Glad you went to the GP, I remember you mentioning it before, sounds like your Dr was a bit more sympathetic.

Pleased you found your way back Whinegums!

Boys have broken up for half term, they got good results in their half yearly reports and are so happy to be off school. No homework, no tests and no alarm clock in the week for me!