September 08 - New Year PFBs, Last Year BFPs!

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Hi - welcome to the new thread!

snowlight Regression to newborn??? I hope not!!!
Last night A decided he was going to sleep early at 6pm, so I was expecting a wakeful baby later, and indeed he wanted feeding at 11pm. And 12. And 1. And a nappy change. And was still unsatisfied after I fed him again. MrNC said 'I think he's hungry' and I replied "He's had both breasts for ages and spat them out so I think he just wants burping or rocking... you can do that! Or get some formula if it really doesn't help..."

He woke me again at 10 past 2 but at least just needed a pick up and put down - turned out MrNC had been there until 2 joggling him and got 3 oz of formula into him. At least after all that he slept until 7am, and then again until 10.

Goodness knows what he'll do tonight, but he's only slept through once in the last 3 weeks. Friend today said that weaning doesn't help for ages, but does once they actually are taking in plenty of solids - but then you have to deal with Real Poo...

LOL at notcitruses "real poo" worries . One of DS's friends poo-ed on our laminate dining room floor last week. And to top it all off DS walked through it. Toddlers are so sweet .

Please god not a regression back to newborn.
Robyn still needs me to feed her to sleep on a night, and often during the day. Atm i can't ever see me putting her down awake for a nap, let alone on a night for her long sleep.
I put her down at about 9.30 and then she wakes again at 10.30, 10 min feed then back to sleep till 11.30, another 10 min feed then she sleeps till between 3 and 6 am. another feed and then sleep till 8. if i try and rock her back to sleep she arches her back and screams. She won't take a dummy so can't give her that to suck on. Like Carriebo if she wakes up ds then we will be up all night with him.
i really need some sort of routine and not to lounge around at home all day i think.

meglet - I'm not worried about real poo, just in no hurry to deal with it before i have to!
now back to mr grouchykins...

The newborn thing only lasted a couple of weeks for us, fraser is back to going to bed at 7 only waking for a quick feed aroud 5 then back to sleep untill the other dc wake him normally about 8.

Is it possible to regress beyond Newborn? M is now waking more often than at 5 days old and sometimes more often than at 2 days. Last night every 3 hours which I can cope with, night before every hour. I'm getting used to it now!

yes snowlight he is 19 weeks today. Also full of cold

Carriebo at least you can hold out hope it will improve once the cold is finished.

T went down really late for his afternoon nap yesterday, so didn't wake till 6pm, so didn't go down for the night till 9pm. I decided not to wake him at 10:30, and he slept till 3am! Why can't he sleep for 6 hours after 10:30pm feed? So annoying. Also annoying as no point in doing it if he goes down at usual time of 8pm as he will probably wake at 2am, meaning we'd have another waking at something like 6am, and since he's barely making it to 7 before wanting to start the day, I don't want to risk him being raring to go at 6am!

hopefully we stopped waking ds for 10.30 feed as we found he sleeps much better if we don't. When we woke him he would wake every 3 hrs ish, but mostly when we dont he goes til 4, then 7. Today was 5.30!! Sometimes its 2 and 5, but mostly 4 / 4.30

Whoever asked about drying baby after swimming, this is what i do:
Take towelling poncho to side of pool and put C in it when we get out, patting her dryish as i walk back to changing room. Pop her in car seat while open locker and get second towel out. Strip her off and dry her again and then get her dressed.

All of this while she screams like a devil! As some may remember, we are having stressful drying times at waterbabies - going for 4th lesson today and have decided to just tough it out - if other people think I'm terrible mum, tough. i need to get us both dressed and so C will just have to cry.

ponymum I too have turned into nervous wreck after having C - worried about the slightest thing. Yet in 2000 I lived in Africa for 3 months and at one point went on a solo expedition into the bush without a mobile!

Sorry notcitrus and CarrieBo. There is a fairly horrible growthspurt at this time, which is coupled with being too excited about newfound independence to sleep and teeth shifting about.

The misery can be weeks long. Some of the us are through it if I remember, at least, it's been a while since I've seen any desperate OPs in Active Convs from our lot.

It helps to know that it is normal, because otherwise you can feel that everything is going wrong with any routine you've attempted.

Also I think it can be worse than newborn, because the novelty has worn off, partners are back at work, you've had 4months of interupted sleep already, you've just begun to feel like you are getting somewhere and then it all goes tits up and you loose confidence as well as sleep.

Not all babies are the same though. You COULD be lucky!

notcitrus, carriebo and ninja we're also going through regression to newborn hell here. I'd been so happy that A was finally going to bed at the reasonable hour of 8pm, but for the last couple of weeks we've had 3 feeds in the night most nights... am totally shattered. Last night I put her in her own room for the first time to see if that would help - but she woke at 12.30, 2.30, 4.30 and 5! Please tell me this will end soon!

It'll end soon does that help??

All I CAN say is that it won't last forever.

carriebo I have emailed you. Would love the opportunity to prove that I can make a good cake, but totally understand if you are unwilling to take that risk again!

All this talk of the 4-5 month changes... I suppose one of the , er, advantages of not having a routine is that it doesn't really throw you out when things change. But then DD has been pretty good apart from a bit more crying and unexplained attention demanding screaming. She still sleeps from 11 pm to 6 am about 50% of the time, and on the odd lucky occasion we have even managed to get her down in her cot about 8:30 pm.

But even though DH and I have agreed we are comfortable with the casual approach, he said to me yesterday, so when do we start having a routine?

LOL Ponymum My DH said to me this morning:

'I think you are spoling her with all this feeding in the night!'

Erm, why do you suppose YOU get an uninterupted night silly DH? Would you like for me to NOT feed her when she wakes? Hmmmmm

Just did ultimate shit parenting - left T in his cot screaming while I went and ran the kitchen tap so I couldn't hear him. He was completely overtired and nothing I was doing was putting him to sleep, so I had to go and have a break. Of course it achieved absolutely nothing, so as well as having a screaming baby I also feel horrendously guilty.
Having given him a dose of calpol just in case, he is now crying in the pram while I maniacally rock it in an effort to get him to sleep.

Well last night wasn't bad - fed at 8 and 9 and 10.30 and 11.30 and A sat on our laps while we played card games. Then a feed at 1, then sleep until 7.30. He didn't want to settle after that so I had breakfast. Then put him back in his cot while I had a wee doze.

Next thing I knew it was 11.20! Excellent on the sleep front, but getting him to sleep tonight could be tricky... And I swear the more sleep I get, the more tired I feel!

I'm happy not having a routine as such but sleeping roughly 9 to 9 was something I was trying to encourage.

hopefully don't feel shit about it, everyone I know has done it, more than once, quite often in fact. I hope he dozes off very very soon and gives you some peace.

We braved the weather and went to baby rhymetime at the library this morning. DS amazed me by sitting still and DD looked pleased just to be there .

Snow has just started falling again, I want to go sledging.

Oh dear, oh dear, oh dear.

Ladies with babies who go swimming, what am i doing wrong!?
Just had the worst water babies session ever. C was doing fine this morning, had a 40 min nap and fed well and fell asleep in car on way to pool. Got into pool, all fine but about 10 minutes in, started crying and nothing comforted her. It was her tired cry too, so i sort of knew she wouldn't stop.
So all other mums looking at me in pity whilst their babies splash about and learn new stuff, like going underwater more and swimmin on their backs, while I feel like awful mother and very miffed that we've spent £110 on lessons but she's missing out on learning all the new stuff every week.

I ended up taking her out early, again, and she settled a bit in the changing room and now is completely zonked out. I just don't understand it and admit to shedding a few tears on way home. She loves her baths and rarely naps at midday (the time we go), so i just can't work out why she gets so tired after only a few mins. I adore swimming and thought all babies loved the water, so i feel very sad that it's not going well.

The instructor said they'd phone me later to discuss it and maybe a hydrotherapy pool would be better but the one they use is at 5pm on fridays - an hour's drive away & rubbish time for us.

Is it me, or does C just hate the water perhaps. I just don't know. I feel like just forgetting it. I hate seeing her so upset when she's normally such a happy little baby. Any tips from you guys would mean alot.

imoscarsmum I think you need to relax and try again. If you are stressed and worried in the run up the baby will get anxious too.

It's probably not the water either, - but the new environment. Swimming pools are sooo echoey and bright.

Can you arrive early next time, have a cup of tea when you get there, take lots of time changing you both, chatting and playing, and then perhaps sit on the edge of the pool for 5 mins before the lesson is due to start just cuddling to get used to the environment before going into the water. I used to take DS for a little snuggly walk around the pool before we got in.

Don't know if it will work but might be worth a try.

If in crazy growth spurt phase, please come and join the club

over here

I'm all on my only lonely atm...

hopefully I've just left ds2 screaming for a bit too as he did the same as T and woke too early for no apparant reason. I couldn't go to him straight away as was dealing with ds1 but once i got ds1 into bed I had to get ds2 up and eventually he fell asleep in my arms so I'm doing 1 handed typing now. try not to feel guilty you wont have done him any harm.

imoscarsmum I like the sound of snowlight's advice.

we've got wet snow falling on top of slush now, not very nice. My poor snowman in the back garden has drooped forwards and then his head fell off and the one in the front has lost his head too.

DH had an interview last week and was tol he'd find out this week if successful but now they're saying it'll be another week, grrrr

One of my friends is a childminder and she isn't looking after any babies just now so has just lent us an old version of this We don't really have room for it but as ds2 loves being upright I think it'll be worth having. She also lent us her double buggy and a cozytoes so I'm doing well out of her.

hopefully do not fel guilty, please. You are reducing the risk of t seeing you crying or you shouting at him to stop. We all have times like this (today, for a few seconds, i really wanted to leave C in changing room and walk away).

waterbabies just rang and offered a place at 11.30am on thurs instead of midday fri - giving it a go to see if midday is just too long between naps for C. Thanks for advice snow, I'll get there early next week and try to relax.

Off to prep tea, MIL coming round later for dinner!!

at hopefully thinking she's a bad mummy. Don't be silly. The evidence is all here, the amount of though and effort you spend on your lo.

Now make sure you have a lovely glass of wine tonight and get yourself a lie-in booked for tomorrow morning!

hi everyone! sorry to hear of all the waking. We have that bug too... 3 full feeds when we had none for a while... better the last couple of nights, hopefully the phase is nearing the end...

hopefully don't feel guilty, s.times you just have to do it... at least you're not being taught how to take care of a baby by a 4 yo - I'm here with DS listening to DD singing and wingeing on the monitor (which more often than not ends up with her falling asleep, though she seems to be taking longer) and DS is constantly "come on mum, go upstairs cos she's crying"...