November 2008 - Cooing babies, tired ladies

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now I'm off to catch up.

Lacks, all I can say is 6FLOZ!6 FLOZ! Mine drink about 2-4floz and refuse more. Congrats on the better night. We had a bad one, after 2 decent ones, hence the arguments. Dh made the babies go ages without feed before midnight when we swapped over and then they wanted every 2 hours. Grrrrrrrr.....

Obs, sorry was not more specific with old skool doc. I don't know really. I don't trust docs, but then some are really good, so it's hard to sift the advice. Ds2 (Judo) has bad wind too and pukes a lot, but I don't think he has reflux (he never screams in pain, unlike your ds). I give him Gaviscon if he has a bottle of formula or ebm though, but usually once a day. I never give formula to dd who has genuine reflux as it really makes it very bad. I can HEAR the stuff coming up and she chokes and has these very painful hiccups - but she hardly ever pukes (silent reflux) so ironically is putting on weight better than ds2! Seems to wean early if his digestion is a bit 'immature' (I am assuming that is the problem in mine as they were under 40 weeks and ds1 was 40+ and had no digestive problems, but possibly not the case). Can you do a thread on mnet about it? I'm sure there are people with more experience...

Hi ellie welcome to our thread, how are you finding it with 2 little ones??

Speaking of little ones ladybuzz vbab ceebee can I please jsut reassure you that is does get better (eventually )

There is 2y 6m between DS1 and DS2. When DS2 was born, I experienced exactly what you are all going through - DS1 was a little shit pain, and he REALLY played me up. This did go on for a long time, but I found that by giving him lots of one on one attention and making him responsible (ie pelase can you get me a nappy etc) really helped. He was dreadful at toddler groups and went through a hitting phase. A LOT OF THIS IS NORMAL BEHAVIOUR FOR A 2 YEAR OLD, especially as they are trying out the "boundaries" and seeing what they can get away with. They key is consistency (ie if you are feeding and they are kicking off, and you say something like "do that again, and you are on the naughty step" if they do do it again, even if you are feeding you must carry through with it, even if it means that baby is crying. They will soon realise that you mean it.) It is difficult as with our PFB's, we have been able to give them attention all the time, and therefore they don't really get a chance to play up. Once a LO arrives, it becomes difficult. So, to summarise, consistency and an understanding that 99.9& of 2 year olds play up. It ain;t called the terrible 2's for nothing!!!

HOWEVER, DS2 (who is 2 and 6 months) has reacted/behaved in exactly trhe same way after Tiger was born. I am dealing it with a million times better because I KNOW what to expect and understand that it will pass (it better bloody do . Yesterday, I had to literally restrain him in the buggy for his own safety as he was having the biggest, longest, melt down on the walk to school. He screamed the whole way, flinging his arms etc. Had that been DS1 I would have been in tears, but because I know it is his age, and that it will pass, I can almost (well not quite) laugh to myself about it.

Gosh, that's a biot of an essay, didn't mean it to be, but hope I can reassure you that it will pass

coolkat - peephole bras sound a bit naughty ! Not sure that goes with bfing tho...

By the way, I missed the chat on your sister's wedding. Did it all go well? I know it was ages ago. When is her baby due? How are they getting on? Gosh, am so nosy.

Thanks ladyB and Merry for flying advice.
Not going til May, but just couldn't figure out what is supposed to happen!

P.S. Plum refused bottle again last night. I think Lacks you were right - she simply isn't hungry when we wake her at 10:30pm (a la Gina Ford).
I am considering just letting her sleep on until she wakes tonight. She didn't really want breast at 10:30pm either. It seems pointless waking her, trying to make her eat, resettling her only for her to wake 2 hours later when she is hungry.
Hmm...routine, schmootine...

Hello everyone!!

I am sorry for not reading/posting but life is rather hectic.... I had the impression that 2 to 3 was supposed to be easy . I guess it wouldn't be so hard if Zack was a good daytime napper, but he isn't (refuse to moan too loudly as he sleeps all night). He is currently napping on my shoulder, hence the post.

We are all well, had a great Christmas and new year. I managed very well for the 2 days that dh was away at a conference, all my boys were well behaved.

Zack is growing like the proverbial weed. At 8 weeks he weighed 13lb 8oz and is gaining about 1/2lb a week and is now 9.5 weeks. He is already in 3-6 month clothes (very sad about this) and is still just about managing to fit into his size 1 cloth nappies but I am having to rapidly buy some size 2, although thankfully have about 12 BTP nappies as well. We are about to take the plunge and have him in cloth at night as well, which I am a little worried about as he sleeps through (well, 10.30 - 7.30, feed and then back down until 10ish)

I am really sorry, I haven't a clue what is going on with anyone else as it was still the old thread the last time I read/posted. I must try harder!! Suppose I should at least attemp to skim this entire thread

I did just about manage to find time to add new pics of Zack to my profile.

Hello dearies,

Was going to start mahoosive post but Fin smells (so prospect of any kind of baby romance very slim indeed, Ceebs [grin}) so I am off to clean up poo, yay.

Had a lovely morning with Vbab and minibab at Costa - gosh, what a cutie that Alyssa is! (spelling okay, Vbab?) And the staff there are nice, too, recommended as Baby Friendly.

Heartmum, welcome back, hon - I did the same recently due to Life and Stuff so I would say just jump back in here and we'll bring you up to speed as and when! Nice to see you again.

Right, smelly baby time... Then feed, then playing on the floor (smile). It's a hard knock life for us Sauruses, you know.

Lacks thanks for that advice on expressing, well she drank the full 4.5oz with DH at lunch so I am going to express again later, will try and express 6oz when I leave her with mum, will also leave a spare bottle and a carton of formula, just in case!!

Merry LOL yes DH says can't I wear Bra's with peep holes all the while!!

The wedding went well, I will add a picture of DD1 in her bridesmaid dress in a minute. DH had a run in with the grooms dad, turned out tobe a misunderstanding as it was over me BF, he asked DH well how long is she going to be DH flew, turned out the grooms dad did not realise I was BF Becca and apologised! Sis is doing ok, signed off work for no apparent reason Due May, she is having a boy, glad really as I would of felt obliged to give her all of my baby stuff.

at you going to Oz, how brave with 3 little ones. We are looking at going to Es Cana in Ibiza as we have been twice and really like it. I don't really like flying and only want shorthaul this year.

Rutho glad you and Vbab enjoyed coffee, I emailed my friend from work yest and although everything is going great I admitted to her that I am quite lonely I have to get out and meet people but I am quite shy

How rude of me Ellie Welcome, everyone here is really nice, it must be hard having your DH away once a month.

Monkey Good luck dropping the dream feed, I never really did it, sorry we failed Gina Ford!

Can't believe Becca is 11 weeks tomorrow Still in 0-3mths though as she is only on the 25th centile. Was 11lbs last week.

Heartmum, was thinking about you earlier and Docswife, I hope she is ok.

Heartmum, Zack is gorge! That smiley photo is so sweet. A really, contented happy baby.

Coolkat, DD1 looks lovely too,very pretty, a really big girl...I did not realise you were the Mum of a BIG GIRL (is she about 6?). We will be turning to you for advice...my Miri is on 25th centile too and still in 0-3. Hopefully for ages as there's tons she hasn't worn. I just can't be bothered to dress them if we're not going anyway (which is most of the time!) so they end up in babygros all day. Glad the bras are going down well and the wedding was good.

barbs, meeting up. Is your dh off tomorrow? When can we meet? I can do tomorrow pm (gotta get babies weighed in morning) or thursday pm (gotta phone my friend in Oz in the am!) or Friday anytime or you could come here on Saturday for lunch and chill for most of the day with my dear family as you may be getting lonely for company by then.

Heart2mum, nice to see you posting. Glad all is well. LOVE the photos - my fave is of your 3 babies !!

Been to baby clinic this afternoon, what an ordeal that is! Daisy, I totally see what you mean now - massive queue, have to wait firsyt to see HV then again to see doc. Took 2 hours in total! P was quite good, although only agreed to stop crying if I stood up, holding him upright so have very sore arms now! On the upside though, he is in 91st centil for length, so looks like he's going to be v tall, and nearly in the 75th centile for weight, was in 25th centil at birth so looks like he's making good progress.

Daisy, how was stay n play? I would much rather have gone there instead of baby clinic! I'll be going again on Friday, how about you?

Hope all is well with everyone else.

stay'n'play fine jaunita; much quieter than on Friday though. DD ate glue and playdough and made a collage. We'll be there this Friday again. Clinic is horrible, tis true. Usually quieter on a Wednesday morning, or if you just want to get baby weighed I think you can go to the clinic up by the roundabout on S G Rd on a Mon afternoon. Did P have his jabs today? and have you got calpol at the ready if he did?

off to catch up

DD1 looks lovely coolkat. I thought DD2 was your first baby for some reason....obviously having a brainstorm!

I got sent a lovely little keepsake gift today; tell you bout it later as bumble needs me again!!

Oh, and hello and welcome back to heartmum

I manage to post here because I neglect my children ; DD's first proper sentence (ie more than two words) was "mummy, pooter away" . Actually, with DS1 at school it makes things a lot less frantic in the day. How you manage to home school I don't know! I'm in awe of anyone who has the patience to do it.

Jabs are next week Daisy. I've been sent a letter saying I should go on Tuesday afternoon again, but do you think I'd be able to go Wednesday morning instead? Will it make any difference to them? Am not looking forward to his jabs at all. Should I give him calpol before, after or both? How do you give calpol? Do you use a syringe? If so, where can I get hold of one? So many questions!!

Heartmum, nice to see you again. Do you still keep up with bonkers? I don't post on there as much these days, although I do check it every now and again just to see if there have been any more BFPs!

Thanks for the welcome back ladies! I was feeling like I'd lost an arm for a while (technically I had as someone was always in it, lol!). I think I may have had a bit of a breakthrough with the napping today. After my last post, I decided to try putting him down in his moses basket. He slept for about 20 minutes, woke up, cried for about 10 minutes and then went back off to sleep for 2 hours. I did peek my head around the door when he was crying to make sure he was ok but it was more of a "I'm tired" whine than screaming. I woke him at 4.30 as he was due a feed a 4pm and he feed and is asleep again . I have finally managed to get to the very bottom of the washing basket, had time to dry and fold almost everything as well (last load drying now, 1 load waiting on folding, but think I should start the tea). Just a nappy load to do tonight and I am all caught up. Shame I haven't caught up with the hoovering, dusting or bathroom cleaning!

Juanitad, good to see you posting. I did drop a line (copied actually) there earlier. I find it difficult enough to go for a wee or make myself a cuppa, never ind keep up with threads! My new years resolution should have been I will try harder not to drop off the face of the earth! Poor P, I don't envy you taking him for his jabs. I have delayed Z's, wimp that I am! I tend to give calpol before jabs, I think it is 2.5ml at this age, ask your chemist for a syringe.

Hello thank you for all your messages this is me just getting some time to myself (well dd2 is on my knee full of smiles and stories when she is meant to be sleeping) never mind would rather have the smiles .
coolkat lol at peephole bras from debenhams I had one of those and IME not a good look when not wearing breast pads and thin white top.
I took dd2 for jabs last week and wasnt nice but she was fine.
It is hard with dh being away for a month (DD1 plays me up something rotten) but it is lovely when he is home for a month

jaunita, I've been on Weds mornings for jabs before, but I'm going to get him weighed tomorrow morning so I'll ask for you.

re calpol, if you register with the minor ailments scheme at the chemist over the road from the docs you can get the calpol for free! Baby is covered and you until your maternity exemption runs out. You can get quite a bit of stuff without having to bother the GP, like calpol, canesten, hydrocortisone cream etc. If you tell them the calpol is for an infant, they should give you a syringe for free as well.

I never got a bounty pack this time. Maybe they think you don't need one with a third baby!

heartmum, see I have got mountains of clothes waiting to be folded and either put away, or put aside. Much to DH's despair,I neglect the house rather than MN

much respect ellilou. My DH was working away until recently (thankfully just before the arrival of DC3) but I had him home every weekend.

bumble has found his thumb! Now he just needs to work on keeping it in there for any length of time and we might get some sleep.

evening ladies,
am frightened to write this down incase i jinx things but my little bundle has been sleeping upstairs since 7pm! that is a first (and prob last!!) LOL!

coolkat at peephole bras, they sound far more sexy than they actually are tho dont they!!?

well done to daisys bumble finding his thumb

you are you feeling today obs? did you get any good advice on the weaning?

am reading about everyones experiences of babys jabs with interest as we have ours on fri

hi to everyone else

Thanks daisy has been ok this time but last time he went 3 weeks after I gave birth and I was an emotional wreck was scared would get PND again but fingers crossed so far so good.
Millie found her thumb/fist also in the last week so that keeps her amused most of the time.
I tried to give the calpol with a spoon (had no syringe)after her jabs and she managed it quite well.
heartmum & Daisy well done on the washing, my ironing pile scares me lol.

choc, we put DS down at 7.30 as he was sparko.......he lasted until 7.45!

I don't do ironing ellielou. Stopped that before DD (DC2) was born. DH does his own shirts and DS1's uniform.

off to have a bath and make the most of the evening, wishing everyone peaceful nights....

Hi Everyone. I haven't posted since the Due Nov 08 thread, was poorly before DD arrived on 10th Nov and didn't really post much, then she arrived and my DH has been working from home mostly since so have found it hard to get on PC in the day, most evenings I am too tired!

DD is doing really well, we have got into a sort of routine which I am happy with, when I had DS 5 years ago, I was a bit "fussy/anxious" with everything and took everyone's advice and the baby books to heart and tried to implement everything they said! This time I am a bit more laid back so I am enjoying being a mummy again more. DS is at school in the day so I have some time with DD on my own (well, with DH appearing from the office upstairs every hour or so). DD is now sleeping from 8pm round to 6am with no feeds in between, then going about every 3 hours through the day, she occaisionally oversleeps one of these and I have to wake her (not bragging just surprised DS didn't do this - he was quite the opposite and a pain in the bum to get to sleep - and still is). I started off b/feeding but changed after a few weeks, it was hard to do as she was feeding constantly and I wanted to get out and about (school run etc), if I kept her waiting she got soooooo frustrated, she also messed about alot and I wasn't sure she was getting much, she is much happier on the bottle (aaahhh just like her mum!).

Starting to have to think about going back to work (possibly in June) as lack of funds dictates, really wish I was a stay at home mum but cannot afford to (anyone have any bright ideas of a way round this - I won't get any benefits after maternity pay stops in May), if I do have to go back DD will have to go into nursery as DH cannot have her and work at home. I have to work out the least amount of hours for the most income after childcare and travel expenses etc. I have started to get prospectus's from nurseries nearby, my DS went to nursery but feel I should check the others out.

Glad to hear you are all doing ok, I know being a mum is tiring, frustrating, happy, sad, scary etc etc.

DD has a sticky eye - can't remember who posted the massage and the gunk comes out message but will give it a try. (Sorry, I have tried to read all the messages but must confess I haven't read them in depth, I only ever used to just about manage to keep up with the Due Nov 08 threads!)

Love to you all!!

Smiles

Daisy you have the right idea I will need to try that too.
Smiles I know what you mean about going back to work I have started looking for a childminder hoping just to go back 2 days a week. It is quite a daunting thing though I hated going back to work after DD1. Well done on your DD sleeping through that is great.