January 09 - 10, 9, 8, 7, 6, 5, 4......and we're off

[fourlittlestockingedfeet]

Here's a brand new thread for the early party poppers!

Heron - perhaps a little, ds may have
asked to feed to increase your supply so your body missed that message.
He may have simply not wanted to leave the breast and noise and warmth of your body.

It's easily forgotten about and moved on from by unresticted feeding and letting him regulate your production by nursing and stopping in rythm with your hormones and waves of supply. Restricting access to the boob puts hurdles inthe way of the 2 of you getting established.

Hard news to take at one week old when your beyond knackered I realsie feel free to hate me!

This is one reason why newborns sleep 16-20 hours a day. So we can sleep with them. With a young baby night are no longer for sleeping, quite times are and so be ready for geting as much of your rest inthe day than at night iyswim?

Being knackered will not affect your supply an iota, it might affect your mood but your body performs even in famine [like the 80's Ethiopian fammine, loads was learnt then about feeding. The babies did fine till weaning had to take place at about 2yo then suffered malnutrition] so is completely up to the standard newborn flogging it gets.

It's quite early express and not actually required to support your feeding so unless you want/need to do it you are making extra work a bit, sort of feeding ds and a pump = twins!!

3 hourly feeding at a week is actually quite
'spaced' so he may be a 'take a lot quick' type. You may also be about to hit the 1.5 hourly feeds or the no rhyme or reason and why have a clock anyway feeds

1.5 to 3 hrly through 24 hours with more frequency between about 8pm and 4am is biologically programmed into the newborn.
I wouldm't expect any 'routine' or predictable pattern for a 6 weeks to a month so don't take his variable pattern as a feeding problem.

HEAR ME ALL BREASTIES!!!.....
.....remember what you express IN NO WAY compares to the nutrition he recieves by taking live recently made mil from the breast.
It is your mantrA
It is the make up of your milk that matters not the amount. That changes through the day, the days, the weeks and the years if feeding longterm.

So LenniEd has a very typical newborn there!!

God I do go on. Do feel free to roll your eyes everyone!

tree get you! Go and have the ruddy thing!!!! you are more than ready Nice to have someone on the ball to give BF advice though; I'm such a militant I daren't say anything as I don't want to put anyone off trying it, and I have been so lucky both times with the babies latching well and sparing my nipples. I would say any questions at all, go to:

best breastfeeding site ever

and all will be revealed. A complete godsend for me last time.

Oooh I know I'm a bore!!
I really want to try and help, but then I worry I will piss people off, and I worry I might give crap advice, or advice people really don't want to hear, or I'll get my ass struck off for giving individual advice.

It's Really hard not to answer questions you think you know the answer to though. And then I write an essay because to properly explain takes soooo long and I look like a loon!

Bet hey - if any of you ever ask for advice and think what I say is not right/rubbish/doesn't apply to you please do say/ignore etc etc. I'm not there, haven't your full history's and can only give out general knowledge. Think of me as the leaflet you were given but then lost!!

No sign of a bubbs here.......

lol, tis never boring . it just amazes me how different it can be for everyone. I just want us all to arrive here safely for now... am expecting loads more great names, big babies, and amazing birth stories. got to go and finish off mine now.

Yeah c'mon you, we've been waiting AGES for the story!!!!

Now wont I be a fab MIL???

lol. I'm waiting for DP to approve it as he lived it, while I writhed on the bed out of my head on gas, air and pethedine!

actually, if I hadn't been in labour, would have been a fab way to spend 12 hours

OMG, i hope my DS does not demand to be fed every hour!!!! i am not sure i can survive

cross that bridge and all that...

the thing that annoys me is that he settles so well during the day, but come the wee hours of the morning...

anyway, i am going to hope for the best tonight!

DH and I took DS on his first shopping expedition today. it was really nice to go out, if only for a short period of time, to get a cuppa and quickly back home, cos i did not relish having to breastfeed at starbucks!

Heron - if he settles well during the day then make sure you sleep during the day too. The round-the-clock feeding phase doesn't last long, the broken nights do ease off and eventually stop altogether, and your body adjusts your own need for sleep to cope. My DD didn't sleep through the night (not even 11pm to 5am) until she was 18mo, by which time I was pregnant again!! If it was all that bad then I wouldn't have been having another so soon - it really does get lots easier.

Second LenniEd. Sleep Sleep Doze and Sleep. I found an hour in the day can feel better than 6 at night. Hormones and all that.

hourly feeds not a def but Come see me if they appear we have ways and means......

H is currently feeding something like 1.5 to 2 hourly during the day, and maybe one at 11 and one at 4 during the night... only had 2 nights so far though... oh my gosh time is passing so fast already!

I was just thinking that. The way the deliveries have spaced the babies could have 2 months between them!! Such differences between a week old and a 6 week old. It just flies in a milky haze doesn't it.

Anyone on the washable nappies? I have 30 and no baby, its a very sad state of affairs.

I wish I was on them Tree - damn things are still too big for him got stinking disposables everywhere - ick.

stanley now over a month. would seem such a big boy compared to some of your brand new ones. he has been in his cot upstairs since 7. not really a break though as have been up and down the stairs to check on him at least 10 times. idea was for me and dh to have some time but he is currently asleep next to me.... dh will do a feed and then bring him up to me when he goes to bed.
survived mum and dad taking them both out much better than first time round. when took ds1 out first time i sat and cried by the front door. this time i cheered as they left. joke but did enjoy a nice bath and sleep.
was going to go to tesco tomorrrow but got scared as to how to get 2 kids and shopping out of the car so just done it on line. we have no drive way and sometime have to park half way up the road.
fair play for doing disposables. between 2 boys and a rugby player my machine ahs been on 3 times today. couldn't face nappies as well.

stanley now over a month. would seem such a big boy compared to some of your brand new ones. he has been in his cot upstairs since 7. not really a break though as have been up and down the stairs to check on him at least 10 times. idea was for me and dh to have some time but he is currently asleep next to me.... dh will do a feed and then bring him up to me when he goes to bed.
survived mum and dad taking them both out much better than first time round. when took ds1 out first time i sat and cried by the front door. this time i cheered as they left. joke but did enjoy a nice bath and sleep.
was going to go to tesco tomorrrow but got scared as to how to get 2 kids and shopping out of the car so just done it on line. we have no drive way and sometime have to park half way up the road.
fair play for doing disposables. between 2 boys and a rugby player my machine ahs been on 3 times today. couldn't face nappies as well.

Oh my God.... I was just reading the posts and thought my breasts are going to explode...looked down and milk cascading down the outside of my vest. Lol. Was just wondering this morning whether I was going to need breastpads this time! What a fool.

Hope you have a more restfull night Heron. Or at least a relaxed, quiet, milky feedy one if he's up.

Another all nighter here last night. Fed at 9pm, 10pm, 12am, 1am, 3am, 4am, 5am, 6am, 7am.... I haven't been to sleep for more than 20 consecutive minutes! Please someone say this is a growth spurt and won't last forever.

oh good god Lenni. will you get a chance to nap during the day?? and thanks for the reality check - Rosie is feeding every 3 hours and every 1-2 hours in the evenings, and I was about to complain about the cluster feeding before bed....now I count my lucky stars.
And yep, don't they start to spurt at 2 weeks? so it will be over before you know it!

Hi Spink - would get a nap but got to take DS for his hearing screening in an hour. Really irritating as PIL got DD for the day so would have been perfect opportunity for some sleep. Nevermind, won't last forever, just a phase....

He's slept for about 3 hours (since 8am) so at least I have had a break for nipples to recover was starting to get a bit sore.

How are you doing? I have only just twigged that our DC2's were born on the same day [thick emoticon]... I thought your DD was the day before as you were in labour the night before me iyswim. My brain is mush

morning. . well, just.

wow epic feeding going on all over. i seem to be in a slight coma state today and not sure when i will ever catch up on sleep. feels like a merry go round that doesn't stop! at least dh at home tomorrow and fri to help out. good job my boys are gorgeous.
ds1 refusing to go up and downstairs as he want to be carried like his bro. our stairs are so steep i have to sit downa dn do bump bump bump.
trying to start eating healthily but have such a craving for chocolate. worse than when i was pregnant. dying to get in the gym but have frozen membership until march as did too much too soon last time and knew i would want to be at it again.
flf lol at leakage. i ahve had days with a few wet circles that i haven't noticed.
lennied feel that pain. do you have the wake up with a start feeling where you can't remeber where your baby is and you worry you have squashed them?
tree was completely amazed by your bf knowledege especially the ethiopia study. just goes to show what an amazing thing the human body is.

lenniEd, how do you cope!!! i hope you have a better night tonight. last night, at the 2am feed, DS fed for 30mins on one boob, and then i gave him the 60mls of expressed milk, which he drank all of it in no time at all and he took another 30mls of SMA! after all that milk, he settled and slept till around 5am and feed for another hour. the previous nights, he would not settle after the 2am feed without top up. not sure why he is so hungry at 2am!

anyway, this morning my boobs are producing more milk and i expressed 90 mls! very pleased!

also the midwife came today (DS is 8 days old today) and DS has regained all of his birth weight and then some! that made me so happy and i said to the midwife, it is worth it waking up at all hours to feed him!

congrats heron, thats great news; well done!

still a bit spaced so keep rereading the same posts .

H being a gem, L being very demanding. Qumps, with you on the carrying thing 'no, mummy carry you' is a constant refrain.

So far, I've found that I'm awake most hours of the night still, just from the pregnancy insomnia, I think from last time it took me ages to settle. The nice thing this time around is I don't feel the need to keep checking he is breathing! Last time I had the cot on the floor next to the sofa and slept virtually with my hand on her chest! I haven't had that weird thing yet where you wake up in the night and think you've squashed them either, but do remember it vividly from last time! I used to wake DP saying where is she, where is she. He'd point at the cot and I'd still not believe him! Really horrid feeling.