September 08 Remember what we were doing this time last year?[wink]

[Debs75goldrings]

So what were we all doing this time last year?

Starlight we need a new thread name soon. . This one's lasted a record time.

Thanks Imoscarsmum. Yes we're fine, as I say it was more a celebration of life which is as it should be at 93.

Glad the Cranial Ostepath went well. I went with DD1 and it was helpful - I might consider going with DD2 for teeth/sleeping/a trip out

I used a sling loads with DD1 (only a baby bjorn) and was quite excited about using one this time (and bought a few different ones). We have used them as=nd when she was tiny they were great for doing the shopping etc - but I have to admit that M too is most settled when sleeping flat in a pram etc. If she's on my chest and tired she arches back to be flat. I'm quite disappointed .

Saying that she does like being held facing forward and so I've started carring her in a sling that way while awake and she likes that, so I can see myself using it more when the weather improves.

ninja - glad the celebration went ok

imoscar - I try to get s.thing ready for DP just make more of what I make myself (but nothing very exciting!), unless I have cereals (which is very often). But when he takes his lunch break at 3pm to pick up DS from school so that I don't need to get DD and myself out, he doesn't have time to make himself anything... he's lovely.... most of the times

debi - long naps are a thing of the past, short naps and then mummy's arms.... nothing gets done here....... and always feel like you when I come back from Italy...

I have spent the evening watching sling videos on You Tube in a last ditch effort to get on with the ring sling. Had T in the baby bjorn today, but felt guilty about whatever it is that baby bjorns do to their hips! (he was in it for about 2 hours during his regular afternoon meltdown, throughout which he is only happy being held against me).
Besides, I don't want to be the only one with the pram when I next meet up with sunflower and lollipop! I am lucky that T loves his pram, but it's a bit of a pain wheeling it round the house of an afternoon

Debi I hate having to have T's lunchtime nap at home - he often wakes during it, and it's such a pain resettling him (actually, it only takes a few minutes, I'm just lazy!), I find it much easier to just go out for a long pram walk. It's nice being able to indulge myself while I only have one! DP likes having him at home for lunchtime nap, and doesn't mind resettling him, so he gets that on the weekend.

Sunflower I'm sure your DP is lovely - sorry, i wasn't being critical at all (sorry if it came over that way). i was just truly astonished - I am waaaaay too lazy to make DP's lunch, even though he probably deserves it some days! You are clearly very organised.

Hopefully gonna put a bet on that you will be first to have another!! the way you talk, it sounds like it's at the forefront of your mind.
FWIW, I really miss being pg and loved the attention I got. I also know that small babies are very appealing as opposed to a frustrated toddler! Often women want to experience the euphoria of birth again. For me, I know at the moment I would only be getting pg to have another 'go' at proper labour.
Even though I'm 36, we're going to wait 2 years, and that's if we even try for another - Doc said I should wait 2 years for c section to heal.

but that's just me, of course.

Oh and have until August 2010 to lose baby weight as that's when DP's (currently) 18 year old DD gets married (don't ask...).

It'll be the first time I'll meet DP's exP who still blames me for their relationship break down, 5 years on. Should be an interesting day......

hi everyone! i'm baaaack. and hopefully this time i won't dissapear.

Hi Eandz! Welcome back! how's it all going?

T had a fractionally more impressive night last - woke at 3, 5, 6 and 7:30, fed at 3 and 6, got up at 7:30. i was so glad he was better from midnight-3am (DP's shift) as dp looked like death warmed up yesterday, he was sooooo exhausted.
He's just had another poo explosion and the wind is a teensy bit better - lots of leg cycling etc yesterday to try to move it along. i wonder if something i ate caused it, or the formula change in his night feed. suspect it was formula, but will be keeping an eye on diet if it happens again.

decided 'right thats it' last night- i was not going to feed A unless it had been at least 3 hrs since last feed. Well, he must have heard me as he started his last feed at 10pm, asleep by 11, woke at 1am exactly, 3hrs after last feed!! then woke at 5 boo hiss. Tried dressing him in less last night as i hadnt changed what he was wearing at night since the weather has changed- he was in long sleeved vest, sleepsuit, 2.5 tog grobag and then a sheet to keep him tucked in his cot (helps him feel secure i think) So referred to my grobag chart and put him in long sleeved vest, bag and no sheet, although put sheet back in the night as temp dropped slightly. Have also booked him in for cranial osteopathy session tomorrow to see if that helps. Hopefully will sort his sleep, feeding on right side and clear the stuffy nose he's had off and on (more on thean off!!) for 12 weeks!

plusone Since the New Year (when A turned 4 months) we've started 'ignoring' him if he stirs before 3am (after the 11pm feed). He tends to go back to sleep, but if he starts crying properly DH picks him up and soothes him then puts him back down and that seems to work. After the 3/4 feed I also refuse to feed before 7am - but A was crying at 6:45 so got DH to change him first.

This policy has been in place for a week and a half now and he's waking a lot less in between the feeds, hasn't completely given up from waking. I think it depends how much he gets at the 11pm feed - if it's too little he's hungry, if it's too much he saturates his nappy. Neither of us have figured out how to get it right so I'm just hoping we can persuade him into this habit. Depending how he goes for the rest of the month I'm going to look at dropping/shifting the 3/4am feed when he hits 5 months. Probably setting myself up for trouble, but it's worth a shot. Would be nice to move him into his own room once we get the new windows in (too cold at the moment, AND he's too cute not to watch as I fall asleep).

eandz welcome back! where have you been?

hopefully sounds like you're on the other side of this growth spurt now. Fingers crossed he'll have settled back to an easier routine by the end of the week. We had the wind thing too, used Infacol and did lots of leg bends (aka 'The Windy Dance' in the DG house).

IMO Aug 2010 sounds ridiculously futuristic, I'm sure we'll have flying cars by then. Realistically it'll roll round before we know it. I'm also on a mission to lose weight. But hoping it's by Sep this year, in order to start TTC again.

digital that sounds good reckon I'm gonna adopt your policy!

eandz - welcome back! awaiting your updates...

imoscar - sorry, I didn't think you were being critical, I took it as you thought I was a sort of stepford wife, which I'm not! I try as I'd feel guilty not to as he delays his lunch break so that I don't have to go pick DS up from school.... and lunch normally means pasta...

oh, good luch with that meeting

M's really been struggling to have her BM bottle at 10-11pm (and nearly half what she used to take), I mean she finishes it, but takes a lot of encouragement from DP, and then I wake her on the morning to feed, so I still expressed last night, but didn't feed her (we now do full feed at 5pm, bath around 6-6.30, full feed at 7-7.30pm) to try and see what she'd do, and she woke up at 6.30! I know I'll regret telling you this though... (though her brother woke us up screaming because he couldn't blow his nose )

hopefully Sorry to hear about your night-time woes Was there with my ds1 and its not fun. As your LO is having a ff during the night, may I suggest a comfort formula for easier digestion? Ds2 has been on it since about 3 weeks old and it has made a difference as when on the breast and then on normal ff he was VERY windy and in obvious pain. HTH. (I use aptamil easy digest)

Re: naps/scedules. Even though ds2 is ff I feed on demand...i.e. I dont impose a rigid schedule as you are "supposed" to. If he goes 2 hours between feeds thats fine, if he goes 3 and a half thats also fine....he has not had any night feeds since he was 9 weeks so he must be getting enough!!! His naps vary in length and after which feed he has them....Sometimes he will sleep in his cot, other times only on me, other times in his rocker chair (where he is now) That being said, I am a very "go with the flow" sort of person and some people need routine and so do some babies. Whatever gets you through the day is the right thing to do.

Welcome back eandz!

Tobys 2nd lot of jabs today (sob!)

......we wont be having any more babies....sometimes that thought makes me sad, as I am more in love with ds1 and ds2 every day, but realistically I am 37 this year and the last pregnancy was horrid, labour not too bad, but recovery took a long time...just too old and knackered I guess!!!

My money is on Hopefully or eandz to produce the next babies

Finally! a few spare minutes to catch up! Sorry to read of all your night-time woes - I feel like Victorian Mother sometimes - but S sleeps without exception from 7.30pm til 7.30am (wake for a feed when I go to bed)I know my style is not everyones, but I cannot function without a routine, now more than ever as I have so much to do during the day. I also figure that as I am so horrible without sleep, that it has to be better for everyone!
I too would have loved a larger family, but realistically S is my last. I'm 37, DH is 16 years older than me, he has a DS (23) and a DD (18) both are great and we're very close, DS1 (7 on Saturday YAY!) and a mil currently living here - there isn't much room for another one...makes you sad though doesn't it??

Jenpet of your full nights' sleep. I totally agree about a routine though. It also means that when T stops sleeping (as he did last week with the growth spurt and this week with the wind) I know there's a reason for it, as those nights when he's not hungry/windy, he does sleep really well. I'm sure (for us) the routine helps, as I have no instincts at all, and would have no idea what was going on otherwise!

becaroo LOL at us being quick to have another! have to let DP anywhere near me first (still suffering with tear healing), but once we eventually manage to cross that hurdle, who knows?!

Hello ladies,

I think diego may be over his growth spurt... but I'm not counting my chickens.

Jenpet what is your routine? I am amazed at the efficiency, and would love to be able to inject some order into my chaos - although I don't think I could ever be able to be a 'by the book' type mother...

jenpet and hopefully I agree. A total lack of instincts here and a desire to know what's coming next! On days like yesterday when it all goes wrong I give myself a pat on the back for being able to go with the flow (in reality I just apply baby wise/whisperer technique of eat, awake time, sleep) but its utter relief to start a new day and get back on track! And right now I'm reaping the blissful reward of two children having settled themselves to sleep for a nice long nap while I have a cuppa and some MN time. Aaaaaaaaah. Oh pants I've just seen the pile of washing up.
The thought of wanting another baby is occupying far too much of my time right now. There are two babies younger than ds at my tuesday morning group, and there are two more on the way. He's ever so grown up in comparison!

New thread title suggestion: Due September 08: Fear and loathing of the growth spurt.

Sept 08: let's start wiping spaghetti off the walls?

ds2 is having a better sleep today and as you can see I'm doing all the jobs while they both sleep .

not feeling so down today either after dh noticed last night and told me lots of nice things about me . Part of the problem I think is that he's in the middle of an job application- had a phone interview before Christmas and has been told they want to see him for proper interview but not organised it yet- that is making it hard to try to plan anything for the near future as we don't know where we'll be.

Anyone elses hair falling out? I don't remember noticing it getting thicker when I was pg but it's falling out in big clumps just now.

Starlight LOL at you looking forward to my daily struggles! I know what you mean

Debi my hair is coming out loads, but it did get lovely and thick while I was pregnant. also realised the other reason it feels like loads is coming out is because i wash my hair less frequently, so more coming out per wash!

Oh God yes DebiTheScot everywhere I go I find a little hairball of mine. It's all over the pillow, the bed, in the shower, all over S - am this close to having it all lopped off, it's driving me mad!
Pacita sorry, I have no magic formula! I always wake him by 7.30am if he hasn't woken up, and I always put him down for a nap 2 hours later, otherwise I find he becomes tired and grumpy all day long whatever else I do. I don't let him sleep after about 4pm either, and his bath starts at 6 with a view to getting him in bed between 7 & 7.30pm. It works for us, but may not for anyone else! Also, with number 2 I have to be a bit less precious. If DS1 had so much as mumbled when I put him down I was in like a shot, sometimes DS2 will sort of do a moany-singy thing for 5 minutes or so, as if he's checking out if its worth the effort to cry, then as I'm doing dinner/homework/housework/etc etc he gives up & drops off...
On a different note, I'm sure I remember starlight saying you had had a baptism? Is anyone else planning to have/has had their LO's christened? When DS1 was born we were moving around a lot and never did, so I have just booked the church in the village, and a bilingual priest to Christen them both on 03 May...sorry for long post, better go and find some cheap Ryanair flights!

Hi all,

E has not yet had the 16-week spurt. She is FF so will have to see if she wants more between feeds. Currently she is on 5 feeds per day (every 3 hours) which is manageable. No routine as such, but E seemed to have got herself into a little routine of her own.

I really should not be comparing, but E is not yet rolling over - should she be doing so now? (17 weeks on Thurs).

On my daily walk I had a stopover for a caffeine injection and the lovely HV who did my discharge from hospital visit was in there. I could not help myself into earwigging into her conversation about when they first enter new baby's houses and how they assess the situation. Was cringeing in how messy the house was when she first visited .