September 08 Remember what we were doing this time last year?[wink]

[Debs75goldrings]

So what were we all doing this time last year?

Splish...totally at your PIL! Mine are angels by comparison!

Re: cradle cap. Tobys was AWFUL...really loads of it ,then my sis told me to try dentinox shampoo which I am now using and I have combed his hair with a fine tooth comb and most of it has come out. Cradle cap is actully seboraic dermatitits and should not be painful or cause babies distress, if it does, then a trip to the GP is needed for steriod cream/special shampoo like nizoral.

HTH x

Hi there everyone and Happy New Year. Just a quick post as I'm still at my parents and have been hiding up in dad's study being unsociable for ages now catching up with everything. Have just come back down to my parents for 2 nights before heading back down South on Monday. Been at the in-laws and then up in Aviemore with them for New Year. Had a great few days up there with temps dropping to -15C at night! The lowest we were out in during the day was about -8C but it was so still and clear that it didn't feel that cold. It actually felt colder the dayt it was only -2 as it was damper that day. Went sledging yesterday and today which I think I enjoyed more than ds1!

Going to visit some friends tomorrow with another friend and their children. Between the 3 of us we have 3 toddlers and 4 babies so that should be a calm, quiet day, NOT!

Debi - Where are you that's so bloody cold .. and by choice?!

I've just had a quick snoop on the Sept '09 thread and wish I hadn't, the lady who created the thread has had an mc, how cruel.

Hopefully - stick with it. Once the growth spurt is over things will settle down a bit. However get used to change, as just when you all get settled into a routine, things will change. Teething, weaning, crawling, walking, talking etc etc. If you are prepared for things to keep on changing it is easier to accept it. Resistance is futile and just makes things harder on you.

I think ds is coming through the otherside of his 16 week growth spurt - thank the lord!

Lollipop How sad. That happened in the first Sept 08 thread too.

Peace! After having a 12-month-old (plus BIL1, SIL1, MIL, FIL) for a few days, (plus my parents on the 25th), then SIL2+partner and her 7-month-old for a few days, followed by A getting the horrible cough the BIL family all had, I now have a sleeping baby.

Hopefully he will sleep for a while rather than howling after a minute lying on his back - took nearly 3 hours the last 2 nights to settle him down. He's practically outgrown the moses basket which probably doesn't help - tonight he could have the cot but I want him in my room in case he has trouble coughing.

Once he's better, I hope to get a bit more of a routine for his bedtime. The classic seems to be 7pm, but how does that work with cooking and eating dinner - when do you bathe the baby and put him to sleep, and do your partners ever see the baby awake in the week?

MrNC gets home around 8.20pm (works 11-7), so I'm usually in the kitchen 7.45-8.30, which works quite well as A is happy to watch me from the bouncer, but then by the time we eat there's not really time to bathe A before bed...

Decided I'm not weaning A until I really have to - the dining room and kitchen were scenes of total carnage from A's cousins! At least waiting until it's warm enough to feed A in the kitchen, ideally with very few clothes on...

NC that sounds like a very manic time! Hope the settling begins to improve a bit now everything's quiet again. I can't imagine how an evening routine works when DP/DHs get home late! We're really lucky in that DP is back home at 5pm so there for the whole bath, BF and bed (well, bath, BF and bouncy chair for an hour...)

Last night was nasty, but not too nasty - T woke early for his 10:30pm feed, so he and I were both tucked up in bed by 11:15pm. He woke at 2:45 for his bottle, and then again at 5:45, when I gave him a BF. He was a bit of a pain to settle after the 5:45 feed, but went back down about 7:00 for 45 mins. It didn't seem too bad because although I had to get up at 5:45, I'd actually had 6.5 hours sleep, and then another 45 min chunk. Going to continue with the stuffing an extra feed or two into him today and see how we get on.

Jenpet I love where we live (south coast), but I am slightly of your life!

OMG I put A in his cot after feed and explosive nappy change at 5:30. He was wide awake, smiling talking but yawning. He had a little chat with the animals on his cotbook then fell asleep. All by himself!

I feel he has definitely turned a corner. The 16 week growth spurt was hard work but if this now means he's able to self settle and sleep for up to 7 hours then it was all worth it!!!

DG that's brilliant! Motivation to keep going with T and up my supply enough to make him able to sleep a bit longer...

hopefully - slept 10pm to 4.30am, but then took an hour to feed, change, feed and settle. Then fed again at 7, then at 8.30 insisted on getting up - and an hour later slept for another 2 hours. Then grumping over feeding, and would scream anywhere except on my lap upright - luckily after 2 hours of that managed to put him in pram and he slept - until I woke him 4 hours later.

Was worried as he has a red lump on one shoulder and a bit of rash/zits on his nappy area, as well as the cold. But now after a new nappy, good feed and lots of snot coming out, he's his usual cheery self. SIL2's baby got an infection nappy rash while here so we were paranoid about hygiene and boil-washed the nappies he used, but I really hope that's not what A has.

Will take him to GP tomorrow, I think.

Hello all,

I have heroically and for the first time managed to express about 60ml of BM. Hurray!

I have two questions:

1. how much milk should a full feed be at this age?
2. what time do you ladies think it would be the best time to use it? Since this is not a full feed I was planning on using it as a top up for the 10-11 feed. First bottle, then breast, in the hope that a full belly will make him sleep longer!

Digitalgirl how long did it take you to turn the 16 week corner? D is 14 weeks and it's all feeling a bit uphill at the moment. He has gone from being a very contented baby to being quite unsettled and fiddley at the breast, never sleeping more than 3 hours in a go at night. It feels like one step forward two steps back!

NC probably coincidence on the nappy rash, but at least if you get him checked out you know it's fine.
Oh, how I long for the 6-7 hour sleeps to return! I am praying for it once this growth spurt is done with. T has never ever woken in the night except for feeds (as in, he won't shut up until he's fed, and if he's not hungry, he sleeps really long stretches without a peep), so I'm praying once this growth spurt is gone we'll get back to going through the night.
Weirdl, he's started posseting after some of his feeds over the past 48 hours - he has probably done this three times in his life prior to this weekend. I'm trying to convince myself it's because my supply has improved so he's getting more...

Oh, and I've been meaning to ask, Starlight, what are the major benefits for the mother after EBF till the 16th week?

Sorry to be full of questions today. I am having a deeply inadequate evening...

Funny you should say that, hopefully, D never used to posset, but has been doing projectile possets during this growth spurt... Why would that be, I wonder?

Splish My mil had a sulk some years ago when i didn't get her a seperate xmas card so her mum gave me money to go and get her one. I am a cheapskate careful with money so usually just do cards from a box or from budget card shops. What does p think, mine will get the cards for me to keep the piece.

Pacita i put robyn down asleep almost every time and if she wants to nap inbetween feeds she will cry for a 'drink'. She is definitely using me as a dummy. DD1 was the same as she wouldn't touch a dummy, or bottles until she was weaned.

Pacita I'm trying to convince myself that all the feeding has stimulated my supply, and now his tummy's trying to catch up with the extra milk. however, I did make that up, and it keeps me happy!

LOL on tummy catching up!

pacita A is 18 weeks today. He's been noticeably better since we came home on Friday. But it's been a gradual shift that has probably been prolonged by the Xmas/NYE activities.

In my mind I'd given it two weeks, and now seems like the right time to start cutting down the night feeds. Having to do it gradually though as my boobs are used to feeding every two to three hours through the night.

A was posseting loads during his growth spurt, had to change his sheets everyday. Now it's just during the day that he burps up a load as I'm still trying to stuff his face every 2 hours (and he still finds it hard to refuse a boob).. He could probably go longer but am trying to teach this 'daytime for feeding/nighttime for sleeping' habit.

Right am going to bed. Need to reserve energy for being home alone again with DH back at work.

Thanks Digitalgirl. As A is a bit ahead of D, I'd be watching and learning as I follow his progress!

DH is back at work again tomorrow too. M isn't going to be a happy bunny, he has defo got used to the extra fuss and has started to shriek when he's left alone for all of 10 seconds - something he never used to do.

We weighed M today and he is 7.2kg at 17 weeks

Tum te tum... Just waiting for 11pm to give T a last feed before going to bed. he had a horrendous evening, lots of screaming (for the first time in weeks - it was bloody awful!), finally went down at 9:15 after another feed, having been up for 4.5 hours.

There's some interesting threads on the sleep topic about when babies slept through the night and what constitutes sleeping through - it's incredible how different people's experiences are, and how different their attitudes are to those experiences.

Pacita I am deeply hurt at you laughing at my well thought out scientific answer to the possetting!

That is so true about what people say about 'sleeping through' Hopefully.

Some people think it is 12 hrs straight but OTOH some people will define it as 5 hrs.

It is an important lesson to not put too much weight on what people say on baby issues as their definitions can be so different from yours. It is better to inform yourself from credible sources and make a decision that suits you and your family.

It is harder to do that though. It would be nice to have someone around with all the right convenient answers to make my life easy.

Hi Foxy, how's it going?

Hopefully - I think our two have been confering again. M went down ok after his bath, but woke up at 9 and was restless for a couple of hours. He hasn't been like that since he was 6 weeks old. Saying that, I can't complain. The past couple of nights he's finally gone back to only waking for one feed - hurrah!

We've got some snow here today. I'll be taking M out for a bracing walk later

Hurray, Diego got the memo!!

Last night we did 8, 11:30, 3:30 and 8:30! I actually feel semi-human as opposed to undead today. He also did not lose his dummy and whine till he got it back, and did not shred his face to pieces thanks to sleeping with mittens on. Let's hope that this is the end of this particularly tortuous growth spurt, and sit and wait for the 16 week one.

How's everyone else this morning?

PS We ended up not using the 60ml of expressed BM because at 11 we were both asleep in bed and could not be arsed to go down, warm it up, etc. I think I'll just express more today, top it up to a full feed and use it at his bedtime.

Foxy Any contact with eandz? pacita 60ml is a fantastic amount for your first time expressing. Many people manage only a teaspoon.

It's hard to say what a full feed will be as every baby is different and what they take varies from feed to feed. Baby Starlight takes between 100mil and 200mil in one feed. It's best to store it in small amounts so you don't waste any.

Practise replicating the 'feeling' you get when your milk is flowing well and experiment with different times of day. Also, if you express in the days following a growth spurt you are likely to have more excess.

HTH