Nov 2008 - sleepless nights and exploding poo, dear oh dear now what do we do??

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Sorry that is soooo crap but we needed a new thread!!!!!

yay hana...love it

twinkling, sorry you are feeling a bit flat about things. How old is he now? Have you hit the three week wall? when they are just feeding and feeding and your hormones make your mood take a nosedive?

I think 3 weeks is the very worst time in terms of hormones and baby blues. But, take heart lovely ; it does pass and things will be much better when you come out of the other side.

So much for me posting more regularly
Daisy Sorry to hear about your mastitis Hope it clears up soon - you really are doing a great job soldiering on with the BF.
Merry Pleased the twins are better and great news about your sister
Choc Hope M is behaving himself whilst your DH is out tonight! Glad you and Dozy had a good day.
Twinkling Sorry you're feeling As Daisy says it could be hormones coupled with lack of sleep? It is so frustrating when they won't latch on and get themselves in a frenzy.
Went out for lunch yesterday with my NCT group - think the restaurant staff were a bit anxious about 7 babies and their prams (we'd booked and warned them) but as it wasn't busy we had a huge area to ourselves and the staff couldn't have been nicer. Even cut up our pizzas so that we could eat one-handed It was my first attempt at feeding in public and because E was in her sling it was dead easy as the sling hides everything.
She's still being clingy and refusing to settle anywhere so she's been in the sling most of the day. DH has heard horror stories from colleagues at work about allowing babies to sleep in the parents' bed (they're still there at 6 years old) so is very keen for her to settle in her own bed asap but I keep telling him she will once she's ready. She was happy in it a week ago so I'm sure this is just a phase. We'll keep trying...
I'm also short on inspiration for a Christmas name atm - any suggestions???
Wishing everybody a good night's sleep

twinkling, I've sent you an email

Thanks Hana I have been NAK-ing lots too!!

Monkey M was really out of routines (his own ones) last weekend so I think he might have been going through a growth spurt, so considering our two are exactly a week apart it might be happening now for CP.

I agree with Daisy about the 3 week mark - M seemed to be in a routine and I thought I knew what he'd be doing when and then last weekend he just had a completely different couple of days / nights - feeding more, waking more in the night and I think it hits you again but after 3/4 nights of it he's back to his routine again.

Right - off to scoff some profiteroles that darling DH bought me whilst I pump my boobies. I am turning into such a multi-tasker!!

PS - Monkey IME get pumping, its so nice to be able to pass the 10pm feed to DH and get to bed early, and the pumping is easy once you get the hang of it!

hi cricri

your DH shouldn't worry too much at this stage. Most people I know who have co-slept have managed to get the babies in their own bed by the time they are two at the latest

right am off to get some sleep before Bumba wakes up for another feed.

I might start expressing for DH to give the last thing at night feed, but I had issues with blocked ducts last time I used my Avent pump

Have good nights all

Aw thanks for the concern girls! Have been fine just very tired and lacking a break in the day to MN!

How about my Xmas name? No? Too naff??! Then again is there any such thing when it comes to Xmas!

DS2 was weighed today and is 11lbs6oz!! He is not even 3 weeks old fgs!!

I WILL catch up properly at some point! But then we have more visitors coming tomorrow aaargh!!

Hope y'all have good nights tonight I swear it must have been full moon last night or something!

Thanks for the link Leaky, I already have some a think they are great - even DS can spend a night in them (with booster) and he is usually swimming by morning!
And thanks for the lunch invite, but we will be in new house on Friday
Are you free another day? Hope the mastitis clears up quickly
Had a painful night on my own so they took turns to keep me up! DH has now finished course so can earn his keep! Apart from while I'm at my parents when he gets undisturbed sleep again!
DD is lovely but sometimes takes ages to get wind up, the quickest way I've found is to put her down and then she'll kick off within 2mins and burp! DS is so keen to hold her, fascinated by her nappy changing - keeps bringing me the mat saying 'oh oh, baby poopoo'!
Glad the twins are getting better MM, I don't know how you do it, I was terrified the first time DS was ill and he was 11months old at the time
Hi everyone, sorry I can't remember all your posts.
Congratulations Reluctant, welcome Tirion

Hey ladies i am still alive. I am slightly busy with 3 kids and dd2 is really pushing her bounderies at the mo.

Owen is doing great bf every 4 hours in the day and 5.5 st night so i can't complain.

up early to go xmas shopping as nothing really got done before Owen was born. Will try to catch up with you all tonight.

Oh wow tegan that sounds brilliant bf timings. How old is Owen?
I have just spent a night with J up every 2 hours. 5.5 weeks now. Any idea why he might be increasing feeding at this stage?
He did have a terrible tummy all evening, I think loads of poo anyway. None till this morning though?
Seems quite calm in daddy's arms now though.
I eventually had to leave him to his groaning, last night. Woke up 2 hours later, thinking he had never stopped, but he must have or I wouldn't have slept. Or did I sleep through it

twinkling, probably the 6weeks (ish) growth spurt!

glad to see mine isn't the only bruiser amongst them. Lots of big boys out there!

Put him in a real nappy this morning and it seems like a tight squeeze to get him in them. I suppose it's just the fit that is different from a dispo, but it looks too small.

Managed to feed and feed off my sore boob and clear the infection without the need for the ABs. It's only a little bit red at my nipple this morning!

I managed to get five hours sleep last night!! I expressed before I went to bed at 10.30, and although I only got a measly 2fl ozs, it was enough to keep DS2 going for an extra couple of hours. But, he wasn't very happy about the bottle so DH had to get his fingers in as well and actually squeeze the teat to get the milk in his mouth. We need more practice or maybe some different teats.

So all in all a good night, as he fed at 3.30 and was back in bed by 4.30 and slept until 7. I feel almost human this morning.

good to see you Tegan

yorky, what day is good for you? I can do Wednesday or Thursday

Right, back to unpicking the velcro from my new nappies.

My boy is a bruiser as well Daisy. We are joking about cancelling the turkey order and eating him for Christmas as there is enough meat on him, his thighs alone look yummy!

Daisy, you are the woman to be able to feed off mastitis. Well done you, I am not sure I would have been able to do the same. I bet you were really glad to get a decent chunk of sleep too.

Zack did well last night too. I didn't even bother to try and get him in the moses basket. I think I may try to tackle just one thing at a time, sleeping for big chunks or sleeping through first, then tackle WHERE he sleeps. Last night, we went up to bed at 11.30, Z was asleep by 11.50 and slept until 5.30am . I changed his nappy, fed him and although he fussed a bit at 8.15am and took the boob briefly, he nodded back off and woke up at 10.45am. Dh & I slept until 9.30am... as did ds2. Ds1 is old enough to fend for himself, ie, get his own brekkie. I now have a headache from getting too much sleep now that I am not used to it, lol!

morning everyone

glad you had a good night daisy
goodluck xmas shopping tegan it will be online shopping for me i think!!

i am of daisy and choco and all of you whose DH manage the last nightime feed. i go to bed everynight at 9.30,10pm ish leaving DH to do the last feed at 11pm ish in the hope that i can sleep until 2am ish but DS just wont settle for daddy!
he takes his feed ok but then just wont go to sleep!
so DH brings DS to me and it only normally takes 10-15mins of my cuddling him then i can put him down to sleep!
although it is lovely to feel "needed" it is very frustrating!
i am blaming DH for being back at work and not spending enough time with DS which is a bit unfair i know!

Morning everyone (just!!)

Daisy you are one hell of a woman, feeding through mastitis!!

Sam was really unsettled all yesterday afternoon/evening which is not like him at all. He would go to sleep lying on me but the minute I put him in his moses basket, he woke up and started screaming! Was dreading going to bed thinking I would be up all night with him.....but we took him upstairs and I thought I would try putting him in his crib first and see what happened - lo and behold, with a few whimpers, he went off to sleep quite happily and, apart from the usual 2 quick feeds, slept until 10ish this morning - so now I know, all he wants is his own bed and the dark

DS1 not having a good day today though - we must have had at least 4 tantrums already because the programme he wanted to watch wasn't on (a different one each time) - about half an hour ago, he took himself off to bed in a strop and has now fallen asleep! He has a cold so I am trying to be sympathetic (not a strong point of mine tbh!!)

My thrush symptoms were never like pins hana....more a general all over pain, and often feeling quite itchy towards the end of a feed. One way to tell is the colour of your nipples; thrush makes them go a bright pink and shiny.

Glad you discovered what settles DS2 ceebee. Mine seems to be getting better at being in the dark and on his own as well. O often wonder if DH keeping him downstairs with the TV blaring is the right thing to do now he is a wee bit older.

Those of you who are BFing and also using bottles for expressed milk; what bottles/teats are you using? We need to get different teats incase that's what Bumba is objecting to.

right back to the velcro unpicking.....tis a thankless task, but four nappies down, only another 12 to go

oh, and hana, if he does have thrush then it will make his throat and mouth sore, so maybe that's why he isn't latching well?

hi daisy, just a quick response. we are using back to nature - tomee tipee - bottles and teats. don't seem to cause any confusion. dd was on bottles for 3 days solid as couldn't suck strongly enough, now is back on the boob with avengeance!!

hana, love namr suggestion, wil change it when i can...

testing my name - its merrymarigold

lol Merry, I like it

thanks on the bottle/teat question. I had some of those and sold them with my steriliser.

I'm supposed to be putting away laundry, but am absorbed in my unpicking and Fiddler on the Roof has just started. I love a good musical

CriCri.....on the Christmas theme, how about MerryCRICRIstmas. You could do that with anything involving Christ or Christmas.

amd for MonkeyM....how about AwayInAMARGOT?

Having a shit day here. After a great night, Zack has screamed ALL day...so far. I am ashamed to say that he is currently CIO as dh & I have both reached the end of our tethers and rather than risk handling his rougher than we intend to, it is safer to leave him screaming. He is currently in his moses basket outside. Even a walk didn't work. He slept the whole time I was walking but his eyes were open by the time I got back 30 minutes later.

My house is a disaster zone and even with the 4 of us trying to clean up, we are barely making any headway. I still have a headache (paracetomol never did much for my headaches pre-pregnancy either) and am really cross that I sooo look forward to the weekend and Zack is spoiling it. I am a terrible mother!

opps, he's not outside, I meant upstairs. Can barely think straight.

After 30 minutes of screaming and pick up/put down, I am now feeding him and hoping that he will have worn himself out enough to sleep until tea time.

oh heartmum . I hope your evening is better.

Thanks for the name suggestions Hana and Daisy They were both great! My brain has turned to mush - I have no imagination at the best of times.
Hana E does the lip-pursing and fist in mouth thing. Very frustrating as you say! I've actually held her hands to stop her doing it when it gets too much Not sure what the lip pursing is all about but it blooming well hurts! Don't have any useful suggestions unfortunately.
Daisy We're using the Mothercare microwave sterilisable bottles (recommended by DM) with the original teats and I was also given some MAM teats for newborns which fit the bottles. E is happy with both and has been from the start when we had to give her formula top-ups when she was 4 days old. However, she refuses to take a dummy - thought I'd give it a go yesterday evening to see if she could settle herself in her crib with it but she refused to even suck on it! So she's still sleeping in the sling and with me...
Heartmum Sounds like you've had a rough afternoon . Hope the feed settled him and you can have a bit of a break.
We had a good night - E slept from 11-4am and then fed for 45 minutes before sleeping until 8am However she's been a bit fractious today and getting very agitated when feeding, repeatedly pulling off and crying. We've been out for a walk though and she spent some time in her bouncy chair and she's now asleep in the sling. DH is busy preparing dinner bless him

Hi all, can I join in?

Have been lurking for a little while ?newish to Mumsnet and wasn?t in an antenatal club, but hoping I can jump in here! Have been very reassured (and often entertained and moved!) by your experiences/stories ? am amazed that babies are such an individual/unique thing and yet so universal at the same time ? so many things you?ve posted have resonated with me.

My little boy (first baby) was born on November 3 at UCLH. Wanted birthing center but wasn?t to be (waters broke early, was induced after 18 hrs), but still worked out well ? ?normal? delivery (mostly due to fab midwife who convinced the doctors I didn?t need the episiotomy and ventouse?can?t be more grateful to her!)

Month and a bit later all is pretty ok?someone posted earlier about the change of life being the biggest surprise (I think ChocOrange?) and this has definitely been the case for me. Lack of sleep is tough (and ok, he?s a pretty good sleeper at night) but this whole thing about my days being completely dictated by him! Wow. Wasn?t prepared for that! Even the simplest task has become more difficult. But getting used to it and won?t be always like this, I know. And he is a joy ? asleep on DP?s chest on the couch at the moment (as DP also takes a nap) and so sweet! Want to eat him up!

A couple of questions, if you don?t mind! This baby acne thing ? any tips? HV said just used the cooled boiled water to clean his face once a day which we have been doing and seems to help ? anything else we can do? (And when can you stop with the cooled boiled water and just use normal tap water?) Am also doing the GF-lite thing?the night routine seems to be working at the moment. Days are not working so well ? he doesn?t like napping except for in the pram or sling when we go out (or DP?s chest on couch) and demand feeds. Should I be worried about lack of day naps if nights are working out (probably manages to get around 4 hrs all up during the day)? And how on earth does anyone feed on GF schedule? If I only fed at 7am then 10am etc, he would be starving (and screaming)!! Does this make more sense when they get older?

Sorry for long post (making up for lost time!) and congrats to all and thanks ? love reading about all your experiences ? good and bad!