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May 07.The one where the toddlers try to eat the wrapping paper and climb the Christmas tree!

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TheGreatScootini · 25/11/2008 18:14

New thread..we-ell it is nearly December and I like to start the festivities early doors

You are not miserable CM..You are going through a horrible time.
Tis a bit tumbleweedy on 't thread these last few days though..

Tell DH I have ALOT of jobs for him to do Mrs JB.I am so sick of the sight of this ruddy shiny wall paper!

Girls back tonight.I am looking forward to seeing them but I cant pretend it hasnt been nice to have some peace

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Are your children’s vaccines up to date?
TheGreatChristmasEvie · 04/12/2008 11:46

Dont read them PJ.I panicked so much about giing L hers that in the end DH had to take her as I couldnt do it.Then I spent weeks taking her every paddy to be the on set of ADHD.
She is fine.M has had hers and she is fine.And just think if they hadnt had them they would most certainly have got Measles, Mumps and Rubella all at the same time, and probably also the consumption to top it all off.

If you are really worried pay for them to be done seperately?Its £300 I think, but worth it for your peace of mind?

Aprilmeadow · 04/12/2008 11:48

Dont read them!
J&E were both fine after theres. I had no worries about taking them. if they were that unsafe they wouldnt offer them!

Pinkjennybellrock · 04/12/2008 12:20

But the singles aren't licensed, which concerns me, although SOH assures me they're fine.

Dh agrees with you AM.

Bensonbluebird · 04/12/2008 12:36

Scoot, you don't do things by halves in your house! I'm amazed you have had the energy to even arrange a party.

We haven't been without our share of drama (PJ feel free to avert your eyes). A had a trip in an ambulance on tuesday, he fell off his high chair. He didn't have any obvious bumps (and wasn't in any state to wave the hurt bit at me for a kiss like he usually does) and when I picked him up his head flopped back and his eyes rolled up. I thought he had knocked himself out and phoned for an ambulance. While I was on the phone he fell asleep on my shoulder, which he never does and I thought he must have concussion. Having been checked out by the paramedics (lovely men) went to the childrens hospital where they checked him over again and gave him something to eat to check he wasn't sick (by this time he had the colour back in his cheeks and was loving putting all the toys in his mouth, yikes!). So it turns out that the likeliest explanation is that having given himself a big shock his breath holding reflex kicked in and he fainted. 'Tis quite common apparently and will probably happen again. At least next time I will know what it is though.

And me, well a couple of weeks ago I had what I thought felt like implantation pains. When I checked, I couldn't find the strings of my IUD, then my period was 3 days late (until A fell out of his high chair). DP and I are relieved and disappointed by equal measure. Where on earth has my IUD gone though? surely it couldn't have fallen out without me noticing. It is a great mystery.

Pinkjennybellrock · 04/12/2008 12:37

Glad he's OK.

JamInMyWellies · 04/12/2008 14:24

Bloody nora BB that must have been terryfying.

Scoot god poor you I really hopr the girls get better soon. Dont cancel DH's party just yet.

PJ woohoo for no Mr Tumble in the middle of the night. Now as far as the MMR goes just do it if you actually look in depth at the original study that was done on supposedly linking Autism to MMR the study group was not very large and has now been proven to be inaccurate. You are always going to get people saying that the MMR caused their childs Autism or Aspergers or other disabilities along those lines but the truth is these problems are very difficult to diagnose until children hit 3 and upwards because of the nature of them. So it allows parents a reason or something to blame that their child got it because of the MMR. Now I am sure someone will come along and contradict me but again that is the nature of the MMR or any other innoculation it is a very emotive subject always has been always will.

LG&T what a day you have ahead I have no idea how you do it.

So ladies I want lots of no baby vibes from you all for tom (birthday) and saturday (friends party)But from Sunday start praying to the great contraction god in the sky.

Now who would like to come and iron a gazilion of DP's work shirts for me or clean the upstairs and change the bedding?? Any takers?

Pinkjennybellrock · 04/12/2008 15:02

This is a ridiculous request, but I can't decide which stocking to buy L. Which one do you like the best?

minnie or traditional?

Is this really what my working day has come to?

MKG · 04/12/2008 15:09

PJ-Don't worry about MMR. Cruz just had his and he's here to tell the tale.

MKG · 04/12/2008 15:10

Definitely go with the traditional. It's soooo cute.

Pinkjennybellrock · 04/12/2008 15:10

It goes against all my natural pink instincts though.

MKG · 04/12/2008 15:19

What the stocking or the jab?

Pinkjennybellrock · 04/12/2008 15:23

the stocking!

The jab fuels my hysterical tendencies.

MKG · 04/12/2008 15:26

Well think about which one she would still like/use 10 years from now, or for the rest of her life.

I think the traditional one she could still be using when she's 20 and say "I've had this since I was 1".

Pinkjennybellrock · 04/12/2008 15:29

Ha ha! I've just ordered the Minnie one. It's where my heart lay. I ordered her a shopping trolley from the disney store, and tagged on the sack to the end of my order.

I must stop buying her things now, or we won't be able to get in the living room. We are having a conservatory built in January as a play room, thank God. I am sick of my living room looking like a dumping ground.

MKG · 04/12/2008 15:52

That's what I need. A nice room, with rubber walls, full of toys I don't have to pick up every five minutes.

Pinkjennybellrock · 04/12/2008 16:17

I'm quote of the week!!!!

JamInMyWellies · 04/12/2008 18:45

OOoh is it for the "I phoned the HV" on SOH's thread. Classic PJ.

Well I liked the trad one but hell why not go for the minnie one.

TheGreatChristmasEvie · 04/12/2008 19:03

I'm getting the trad one though for mine.So it has helped me out.

How scary BBB..Glad he was ok.Where could it be?Will they look for it at all?It cant just fall out surely?>>goggles at the thought

twelveyeargap · 04/12/2008 23:33

Jesus Scoot. I don't know what to say. Is there anything I can do to help at all?

LG&T - Glad the Girl is doing well and behaving. Sorry I couldn't make it the other day. Car still dead, outside the front door. DH was supposed to call AA today to start it and then drive it to the garage, but he couldn't be arsed because of the torrential rain this morning. I suppose I can see his point... Mind you, if he'd just let me call the usual local bloke I use, then he'd come and pick the car up for us, instead of us having to get it to the authorised place.

Pink - Get the MMR. Frankly (and this is both my opinion and that of most of the medical profession), the likelyhood of your child having serious complications from actually getting Measels, Mumps or Rubella is so much higher than the likelyhood of there being any complication directly related to the vaccine, that it is foolhardy not to get it. Please also bear in mind that the research linking Autism to the MMR has been COMPLETELY DEBUNKED. The research was FUNDED BY THE COMPANY WHICH MAKES THE SINGLE VACCINE. Conflict of interest? I think so. The single vaccine can be absolutely fine, but you need to do so much research into it to make sure that the clinic you receive it from knows what they're doing; why bother? GP was telling me that a North London clinic was found to be using unsafe batches or something. Far safer to go and get the MMR on the NHS. Really.

What a hideous fright BBB. Glad he is ok now.

youknowwhoiam · 05/12/2008 00:33

Name changed in halfhearted attempt to protect the guilty, who know my usual name.

Suffice to say that all was fine with The Visit up until about day 6. No great surprise there. Guests start to get tiresome after about 5 days no matter how much you like them imo. After that it really went downhill.

Invited her mother and brother up for Sunday lunch, had DH them up from the train station before lunch and I drove them an hour home that night. Had her father and his wife up for lunch during the week. Tried to make nice meals, keep everyone happy etc and yet was told at the end of the week that I'm "a disaster". Kept telling DM that we had a dishwasher and please don't do the washing up, but she proclaimed that she "hated dishwashers" and seemed to spend the whole time in the kitchen avoiding everyone all the time. Was funny because she'd been telling me how she hated people washing up in her house and insisting on drying everything instead of leaving it to drain and I'm left wondering why her hatred of dishwashers trumps my preference for them, when we're in MY house. But that's only a small aside.

DM caught a nasty cough/ cold/ throat virus thing on the plane on the way over. Overheard DH mention that he hoped DS didn't get sick, after him being in hospital last time he had a chesty virus. DM took this as a personal affront and said, "What are you trying to say?" DH says, "Nothing, am just saying I hope he doesn't get sick." DM: "Well would you prefer I left?" Oh please. So DH goes, "No, DMIL, there's no need to be defensive here. I was just making conversation". So DM is annoyed with DH. This is compounded by the fact he asked her not to sit on the arm of the sofa. Except he didn't ask, he jokingly "told her off" and said, "Hey, get off the arm of the sofa! Nobody's allowed to sit there." (Which they're not.) Anyway, DM completely missed the humour and basically thinks DH is the devil. So when at the end of the week, when I was on my way to get a top and pair of trousers to wear on my "big night out" I have been looking forward to for ages, my car broke down in a retail park car park and we're sitting waiting for the AA in the pissings of rain with the windows steaming up and the children crying because they're sick and want to be at home, she thought that would be a good time to have a go at me about it. Said, "It seems like EVERY time I come (that would be twice in past 4 years), your DH is rude to me". I couldn't be bothered with it at all and said, "Fine, don't come again."

After trying DS on a bit of formula, JUST in case all the breastmilk in the freezer ran out while I was away for the night, or in case my flight got delayed, he decided that all bottles were poison, regardless of content. Ended up having to take him with us on the night out. DH was good and said he'd stay in the hotel with him, but I managed to get a babysitter from 8 to 12 in order that DH could join us for a few drinks. Tried to get DS booked on our flight, but was told we'd have to just buy him a boarding pass at the airport. Got to airport two hours before flight. Queued for 90 mins at customer service desk and barely moved in queue. Checked ourselves in and put bags on and found a cash desk where DH had to coerce them into issuing the boarding pass by saying they'd have to unload our bags from the plane if they didn't. Babysitting agency called while we were on the transit bus to plane to say that the sitter had called in sick. Got to destination to find car seat hadn't made it, although thankfully they had spares to lend us. Went out with mates from 8 til 12.30. Went back to feed O and OF COURSE after about 8 cocktails fell asleep on the bed. Doh. DH had a nice time til 4am in hotel bar with my mates though... DS woke at 5am. Came home. DM had had friends over for dinner the night before and I'd said it was ok they stayed so they could have a drink. DM had insisted on moving out of DS's room (had moved DS into our dressing room so she had a nice room and comfy bed since she was staying SO LONG), washing and ironing all the sheets to put her friends in there and sleeping on the sofabed in the office and commenting on the fact there were no curtains in there. I mean, I don't see why her friends couldn't feckin stay in there for one night... DM ended up in there for three nights instead. Pointless. Anyway, her friends had decided to wait until we got back so they could thank us for letting them stay, but with both of us hungover to bits and our baggage taking an hour to come and then the cab driver losing his car in the airport car park, you can imagine how pleased we were to be making small talk when we finally got home.

DM was obviously dying to hear that the trip hadn't been worth it so told her it was fabulous.

DM did talk about how lovely all the children are, but didn't once say how nice it was to be spending time with them or thank me for my efforts. Just kind of made me feel like she was only there "to help me out" or something. Given that my PIL were supposed to be babysitting that weekend before DM decided to come, and I have a cleaner, I'm not sure why she's trying to make me feel like I need help or why she can't just come and visit and be my guest like a normal person. This is the woman who told me on my wedding day, (in so many words) that she was relieved I was off her hands! I won't be bothering again. Suspect she'll stay with her father or mother when we have DS baptised and that's fine with me.

She moans about her father's wife and about how awful she is and how terrible it is to put up with her (a woman he met after my mother was an adult). She hates my DH and makes it really obvious she'd rather be elsewhere when he's around, yet if stays away when she's here, she's "offended". And in all this, she forgets that I have put up with her partner for 23 years. A man who couldn't keep his disgusting hands to himself when I was a teenager - the same age as my own daughter is now, so you can imagine how I (and DH) feel having him around. This is something I attempted to tell her about when it first happened, but she cut me dead on it saying "I think you must be misreading the situation", or words to that effect and made it very clear where I stood. FFS. Everyone in her family has had to put up with him being obnoxious every time he gets a few drinks on him. She has put up with his daughters being vile to her for YEARS, but her own family don't get given an inch. Fuck it. I haven't spoken to her since they left. She rang when she got home and DD1 answered and told me that DM had called to speak to DD2. WTF? Didn't ask to speak to me. She's actually bonkers. I can't waste any more energy on it, though if she starts on me again about how awful she thinks DH is, she'll be getting a few home truths. To hell with the consequences. I can't be walking on eggshells for the rest of her life. She won't be happy til she's a miserable old woman whose entire family is dead or completely alienated and she can drive herself mad wondering what went wrong with her life.

And breathe.

JamInMyWellies · 05/12/2008 08:18

OOh TYG.

largeginandtonic · 05/12/2008 08:19

Oh love How did you survive without dissolving in to buckets. I am a hardy girl but fights with my mother will always hurt me more than anything. I think you are right though, no point prolonging agony with further stays and upset, the kids will pick up on it and dh will feel all put out.

Sounds like he did well to hold his own though and not launch at her, my dh would (and has) although it is nice it does not really help the situation does it?

Breathe indeed...

largeginandtonic · 05/12/2008 08:31

Jam sending keep in baby vibes and a HUGE HAPPY BIRTHDAY!!!!

April and i discussed it and i said i thought it was a boy. I really need to see the bump so am off to look at FB as April said there is a pic on there. Real life squidge of bump is more accurate though. Although i was wrong with Sky, i didnt squidge the bump.

I like the festive smilies

Scoot may your day please be better, the girls must turn a corner soon. Forget work while you are at home, you can do nothing about it anyway.

Yesterday was a fricking nightmare. I knew it would be. DH offered to walk and get the twins after their disco at 830 but it would have been 9 before they got in and they would have been so tired and cold. It meant i got in and out the car no less than 18 times... my SPD is a force to be reackoned with today

DH did make a lovely tea for when i finally sat down at 9 but (as he probably felt bad about not driving) had drunk vast amounts of home brew and was slurring and making annoying comments. I couldnt be bothered with it.

Went to bed at 10 to read Ina May Gaskins Childbirth book (very good btw) and he complained about the light despite snoring next to me within 30 seconds of his head hitting the pillow Anyhoo another day today.

We have my parents coming today, i feel the issue of my sister may come up. I am unsure how it will go. It may be a non conversation with them not wanting to get involoved > or it could be a disaster as they berate me for me my lack of understanding regards her and how irrational i am when it comes to all that. Wish i could fecking drink.

JamInMyWellies · 05/12/2008 08:41

Thanks for the birthday wishes, I will put a pic on FB of the bump the last one on there is a couple of months old am mahoosive now. I woke every hour last night thinking it was happening but nothing yet. Got some lovely cash from the outlaws have to buy some new slap I have been dragging the dredges out of a bottle of foundation for wks now. The rest will be spent on Sainsbury's how boring is that!

LG&T sod it have a little drink it will be fine hope all goes well with your parents. Stay strong.

Right I am going to indulge in a spot of daytime telly and maybe shower at lunchtime.

twelveyeargap · 05/12/2008 09:11

G&T - Poor you. Hopefully your parents won't talk about it, at least until you're feeling less tired and hormonal. I suppose it will have to all be aired out at some stage - just not yet.

Your DH needs to get himself on the road! If mine can do it, yours definitely can. I don't suppose there is some Forces course he can get on? Mind you, I don't suppose there is much call for road driving in the Navy.

I really don't know how you do it. I think about it all the time. I would be in tears if I was in and out of the car that much on ANY day, never mind hugely preggo.

Dh went out last night and arrived home whilst I was on here. Was pissed up, put some chips in the oven, then fell asleep and stank the house out. Good thing I was up and turned off the oven before going to bed, since he didn't wake on the sofa til 4am. Oh, that reminds me, I think they're still in there. Yeuch.

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