January 08 Shiny New-Year Babies, not quite so shiny they are nearly one!!

[Lilyloo]

is this ok didn't want to loose everyone courtesy of Lucky!!

Lot's and Lot's of apostrophes JKS

Ange my dad has just given us our xmas pressie off my gran woolies vouchers so will be going there to spend them tom my bil brother will loose his job and one of the mums from school hubby will loose his and she is on mat leave with baby no3 what an awful thing to happen at this time of year!

Will go to woolies tomorrow although I was in there today and the shelves looked pretty bare TBH

Great thing about MN (apart from you guys ) someone on DD's thread is going to send a sample of FF she can use Then if that works I can tell pead I was right and he was wrong/what to do....

Hi all

DH cycled Nathan to cm this morning, Nathan was not impressed and howled all the way. Imagine young-ish priest, on a bicycle, with a child seat containing a furious baby with a red helmet and ditto face and the penguin shaped changing bag hanging from the child seat.
Think I will buy the local paper tomorrow just in case (pmsl )

Simpson, I am not impressed with your GP. Did they give cost as a reason? I would ring the Primary Care Trust and complain that your dd is denied adequate treatment , glad that things with dh look a bit better

5 December? Well a few weeks before St Nicolas sails into Amsterdam from Spain on a big steam ship with all his Moorish assistants. They visit everywhere, like Santa (St Nicolas - Santa - get it?)and check that children have been good and hand out sweets and gifts. On 5 December (which is known as presents evening) in most households St Nicolas delivers a bag of presents for the whole family which are opened while eating special treats like 'speculaas' (sort of gingerbread but with more spices) and marzipan. Children believe that St Nic exists (well he did, he was bishop of Myra in the 6th century)and rides over the roofs on his white horse. They put their shoes in front of the fireplace and sing a song. They put a carrot and hay in it for the horse (does nay of this sound familiar? .
The best bit is being older children, when you get to put the bag of gifts on the neighbour's doorstep, bang the window real hard then hide behind a parked car to see the little ones opening the door and getting really excited

I love Ikea. Let's see. Our bed is not from Ikea, nor is Nathan's cot. Err, in terms of furniture that is it. Lots of Nathan's baby stuff is also from Ikea.

Lily what was that thread where you were pulled up on spelling?

see St Nicolas here

Madmouse - LOL at Nathan on bike although am sure your DH did not see it that way!!LOL at local newspaper story...just think of headline!!

GP did not mention cost that was me being She is normally very good and has been a God send over DH TBH. Still can't believe she wouldn't over ride pead though TBH.

I have family in Denmark and am sure they leave shoes outside front door on St Nicolas day (or the night before)maybe similar thing to leaving by fire....

Ooooh just read on another thread that Rockdoctor is pg too!!

Rockdoctor - fill us in!!!

Ange - it does seem sad doesn't it to lose such a familiar name? makes us feel old(er) when a childhood favourite disappears i guess. Used to go there with my grandparents for pick 'n mix

Lily -
Hope you get to spend the vouchers, i hope anyone else who's bought them remembers early too...

Simpson - that's great about the sample! i hope it suits dd and you can get some on prescription soon. is it terribly expensive? i mean if it suits here could you just buy some until the appt in jan?

Madmouse - (unbelievably it was on a thread about Christmas lights )
Love the image of priest+beetroot baby+penguin bag

Rockdoctor - Congratulations
(in case you're lurking)

ds2 up from 4.45, tried feeding him at 5 but had to bring him downstairs about 5.30 to stop him waking ds1 up.
worked as ds1 only got up at 6.30 (yay!).
ds2 now gone back to bed as was falling asleep on me.
dunno what kind of day we'll have now...no plans either as playgroup has stopped for christmas. hate days with no plans!

(going to stick on here about this after getting fingers burnt the other day!)

AIBU to want my DH to love his job a little less? to enjoy being away from us a little less? to be less excited about heading off to work? etc....
i know i am, i should be happy that he loves his job and loves going off to work, i just get a bit when he's so full of enthusiasm and has lots to say and my big news is i cooked a risotto, or wrapped some presents
i find myself asking 'why should it all be down to me, childcare, nappies, looking after the cats, sorting the house, sorting Christmas, etc.?'
and 'what if i can't be bothered? tough, i still have to do it'

but, rationally, i know he could say, "why should earning money be all down to me, sorting the mortgage, paying for the cars, bills, nursery costs, paying for Christmas, etc.?'
'What if i can't be bothered to work? tough i still have to go'

it's just he enjoys it so much!

ds1 having tv breakfast as a special treat [fbluch] - thinks it's fab!

(gawd sorry i really must stop posting such long posts!!)

Hi Guys

Yes I'll admit to lurking - not much else to do today as waiting to hear about redundancies at work....

...and yes, I'm cooking another one , long story and can't say it was planned but I have my 12 week scan next week. One of the reasons I haven't been posting much is that it was a really hard decision what to do. DH has been looking for work since September, hence I'd gone back to work sooner than I wanted, and I had an idea my job was less than secure. Our initial reaction was that we couldn't bring another baby into that environment but then the alternative ended up being too hard. I guess at the end of the day I couldn't use the fact that I might not be able to offer the baby a comfortable middle class upbringing as a reason for not going through with it. Sorry if TMI but it has been a difficult couple of months for us.

Anyway, I'm back although I'm afraid it's been a few weeks since I checked up on you all so I'd better start reading, oh, and I guess I need to think of a Christmas nickname.

Hi Rockdoctor. Congrats! Brave of you to share. We've all had thoughts and worries re kids & finances I'm sure. I always think back to my own childhood in the 70's ... we didn't have fancy clothes or holidays but we had a lot of fun! A good upbringing is an attitude!

At the moment DS is obsessed with putting things in hidey holes. And crawling around with things in his mouth, like a dog. Is he weird or do other LO's do such things?

Rockdoctor - Big congratulations Hope you get good news about your job...

LaT - Entertainer sold out of toddler laptops...must be popular

Went to woolies today and spent £40

I got:
Sporticus outfit
Lazytown etchasketch
Woolies own "my little pony" set
Paint a money box kit
toy Tool kit
2 candle stick holders
pink bag with toy bottle,bib,spoon, fake food etc for a doll.

All going in attic for either Ds's birthday (not till Aug or next Xmas ) except for candle stick holders which are for my brothers girlfriend. Her birthday is Boxing day.

Congratulations Rockdoctor! You'll make things work. I've always thought you cn await forever for the perfect time for a baby and it won't come. I'm sure the baby will be perfect though.

Thanks for checking Simpson. Sounds like you did well in Woolies!

JKS - I know it's not the main issue but have you had a look a book called 'What Mothers Do' by Naomi Stadlen? I'm reading it and she talks about the problem you mention when DH comes home and has loads to say and mum has the washing etc to talk about. I like it so far.

MM - Great description of the vicar on a bike!

My finger puppets arrived today but the finger holes are really small so am a bit disappointed. Oh well. They'll do.

DH home - must fly

Hi Angechica and all!

Evening all am abs shattered have sat down for the first time today!

Have been to woolies and joined the mahoosive queue for the same sale that's been on for over a week Got dd some vtech toys and a hat and mitten set with MY vouchers!

Watched dd2 xmas play this afternoon she was really cute. She and dp have gone to watch ds tonight it's his last night of his!

Rockdoctor congrats think i was there for a time with dd2 as she wasn't planned but you do manage and now she is here i can't imagine anything different. Actually quite empowering this xmas as i would normally have thrown everything on cc and pay it off rest of year but this is our forst debt free (xmas pressie debt still lot's of the other) and it's surprised me how you can economise when you need to.

JKS feel exactly the same i even said to dp that work is easier and i honestly think it is. Being at home is hard work.

MM as JKS said it was a xmas light thread and i put 'lot's' and she replied
'how can you put an apostrophe in LOT'S'
my retort was
'like this 'lot's ' LOL
As you all know i type quickly and make lot's of mistakes but as it is just a chat and not a job application i ain't bothered

Simpson sounds like you got a lot for that though and how organiesd getting things for next year!

LaT shame about finger puppets did you see the footprints ??

Ange dd always has something in her mouth. Funniest being the jigsaw pieces that are quite big with a peg on. She has the peg in her mouth and the jigsaw piece nearly covers her face

lilyloo - How can someone be at where an apostrophe is...in the grand scheme of things it doesn't really matter....some people!! Grrr...

LOL at you spending vouchers on Dcs instead of yourself!!

I might brave it and go back to woolies one more time as I want to get a few little pressies. I have a box in loft which is birthday parties of random kids I don't know, so if Ds gets party invitation from school I just get pressie out of loft.

Going to DS's old playgroup to pick up pic of Dcs together...then get DD weighed and rant to HV about not getting DD's milk changed...

lily if I drafted my legal arguments like I type on here I would never win a case

feeling a bit and at the same time with myself for feeling

was at soft play this afternoon. Nathan is almost almost able to get on all fours by himself and I know that will be the start of many things.

there was a baby girl there also 10 months, who was crawling real fast, sitting, pulling up, cruising, climbing on everything. And I found it sooo hard. It is different reading about your los who do the same. They are my babies too and I want them to do well, and it is easier to read about it. Seeing it was tough. And got a bit silly annoyed with mum for not appearing to enjoy he daughter or be very proud of her...

oh well, out of my system, get on with it

Rockdoctor, congrats and well done on your honest post. You will do fine, I do not doubt it. Children have been born and have flourished in tougher circumstances .

MM i guess when you don't know it's easy to take things for granted as the other mum was likely doing.
It must be hard but remember many lo's on here are at very different stages and Nathan sits snuggly in between!
Can imagine you have days where you feel frustrated though so for you.
Actually i had a sense of that today when i stopped at the zebra crossing for a set of grandparents crossing with a little toddler.
I felt really that my mum would never do that and my dad won't without my mum.
Think it can be a culmunation of things that trigger it. I have had such a busy week and had a spare ticket for ds play tonight and no one could make it so dd went again. Made me .
Maybe it's you going back to work that's triggered it ??

thanks for your wise words lily

just, err, there is no apostroph in lo's

pmsl now

that cheered me up

sad individual, me

sorry you are feeling a bit too

a'm goin'g apostroph'e craz'y
Not necessarily sad just poignant moments i guess !!

LOL at apostrop'e

Madmouse - I feel a bit when babies younger than DD are doing more. It is only the last week or so that I have been able to leave her sitting up in front room and walk to kitchen and not worry about her falling (although only on carpet so can't hurt herself) my GP mentioned yesterday that she has possibly been in pain from milk and not felt like trying new stuff ie crawling/shuffling which is why she is slower. That's she bit I feel about.

Madmouse - for you, but also a quiet little lol in advance for the first time you roll your eyes as Nathan legs it out of whatever room you have just sat down in with your cup of tea for the nth time....
(think i let 3 cups of tea go cold today )
Esp at this awful stage when they just fall over loads and you either have to let it happen and cheer them up afterwards or follow them round non-stop (not v realistic with DS1 to look after too).

Is he happy to sit and play with a box of toys?
Make the most of it if so! I loved that bit with ds2 and it was so short-lived!

Obv you will appreciate each milestone that much more as you know how much harder he has had to work for it, but don't despair, he will get there!

Lily - for you too. it's always hard when you are forced to 'remember' that someone's gone. was sure i saw my old neighbour walking along the pavement earlier, had to remind myself that he's gone and i even went to his funeral! just brought it home again to me and we weren't even close.
sometimes i still think of things that my gran would love to hear about, or introducing her to my DCs - she died, um, 13 years ago i think.

simpson - can't decide if you're brave or mad for going back to woolies! - with kids? mad i think!
have fun at playgroup, hope HV gives you more ammunition re dd.

LaT - will look out for that book, thanks. have checked library website and their copy is 'missing'

Re DH's work - it's just that he's so bloody cheerful about work, if he could balance it out with some crap days that he came home and moaned about i would know it's not all brilliant for him!
(that sounds so mean doesn't it?!)

Rockdoc - good to see you on here again must have been a tough time for you and DH, glad you are through it.
(see what i did with the name? - for good Christmas names, try the thread in the Christmas section, they are fab on there!).

Well Dh is home, yay! went and got curry and brought me wine
life is looking better already.
oh except we are going to PIL tomorrow - why do i agree to these things??
If it wasn't for bf ds2 i would be sending the 3 boys and having a weekend off!!
ah well next year....

time for chocolate!

JKS - My DH says he finds being at work easier than looking after the Dcs Very of your wine and takeaway!! May have to partake on Saturday for X Factor final...although DH has early shift on Sunday.

Only took DD in buggy to woolies as DS was at pre school and if I go again will do the same. Is easier having buggy to put the shopping in basket!!

Lilyloo - I get very and because Dh's mother (can't bear to think of her as my MIL!!)never makes effort with DD. She sent over parcel of stuff for DS today...clothes, books, stickers etc. But a big fat zero for DD

Simpson why is she like that with dd ??
My mum i know would spoil the girls, i am one of 3 and we could never wear the clothes she bought us as we grew out of them too soon!
JKS dp just brought me wine back too and a bag of minstrels

simpson - that's so awful of her and she has met her now, after your trip there, so no excuse!

it is v sad to think that her development has been held back by her being in pain x 100.
i guess if the milk gets sorted out and she stops being in pain, she will catch up and do loads all of a sudden?
no comfort at the mo i know.

poor her

we have broken open some Christmas chocs too - a wild night here, takeaway, wine & chocolate, woo!!!

Only one come on JKS

Oh also i have a massive cold sore !
I only got this when pg with dd2 last year and have had 2 since. DD1 told me not to look at her today as it is disgusting
Anyone any ideas other than zovirax which costs an absolute bomb ?

Lilyloo - Irish family and all that seem to prefer boys etc...

She wants to come and stay with us again. She doesn't know DH been ill and Dh's best friend said that during DD's christening party MIL kept slagging me off to anyone who would listen She then got so pissed she had to be put to bed...and this was at 7pm!!

At DS's christening party (again at her house) she didn't drink...wouldn't let anyone else but herself hold DS. We had to prise him off her for his bedtime.

Ok...now I am very of wine and choccies

Well think Boots do an own brand one which would be cheaper?
But i think you should (if you can) look at your general health - don't they tend to come when you are run down with everything else? (or is that just mouth ulcers?).
I know you are probably doing too much, DCs, Christmas, etc. but if you can, rest more, and take some vitamins?

Which reminds me, meant to get some stuff from the health food shop to even me out over pmt-times but forgot. LaT was it you who suggested somethings?
will either have to trawl through on here or can you suggest them again? sorry!