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lollyheart · 14/10/2008 20:48

Hope no one minds me starting a new thread?

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mellabella · 17/10/2008 22:11

my guy gags on his sometimes too. I found that if I tilt it upwards so that it hits the roof of his mouth he starts sucking on it instead of trying to swallow it. I'm using an american brand-mam. my mum sent them (she still lives over there) as she said they worked the best for us kids. he seems to like these ones more than any others.

mellabella · 17/10/2008 22:15

oh.my.gosh fullmoonhowler our situations can not possibly any more similar. well, i don't have two children yet.... but just a cranky babe and a dp who gets to head out with his mates tonight is enough to really make you ready to just scream. I actually just handed ds to dp tonight when he got home with a bottle of expressed bm and went outside and ran for a good 20 minutes. felt bloody amazing!

FullMoonHowler · 17/10/2008 22:27

mellabella - where do you get the energy from? I'd love to go out and run, but always been a rubbish runner and really waiting for 6 wks check to get the all clear (which will be at nearly 8 wks in 2wks time as they only do these on Wed at our surgery!?!) , but treadmill's looking at me from the corner in the living room.. when will I get into my nice clothes again??! Bu maybe I'll go for a run too one of these nights, becoming slowly claustrophobic....

mellabella · 17/10/2008 22:36

honestly- i have no idea why i actually had energy to go and run. shouldn't because we're going through some pretty rough nights. i think it was just from being claustrophobic and going insane from being on my own all week and i was in serious need to go and get it out. was therapeutic, but not sure i'll be doing it again anytime soon, now i'm completely knackered and lo is wide awake.

are we the only two on here? seems like everyone is absent tonight.

FullMoonHowler · 17/10/2008 22:43

maybe they've all cracked the settling thing and they're all sleeping! I'm just watching Jonathan Ross, DD's due her feed, but it'll be later tonight as she basically had 2 full feeds in 2 hours and went to bed later (though I can hear her making noises...). think I'll get DP to feed her while I express, so it's quicker... see that you're far from home too (sorry, had a look at your profile), not easy, is it? have you got DH's family nearby?

notcitrus · 17/10/2008 22:51

sleeping? i wish!

thought i'd cracked it, feed a lying down, both doze off, but no, tonight it's chompiness and stroppiness whether i take himoff the breast or wait fir him to come off, then 15 min of pained screaming for no reason, now dozing on mt knee but opening eyes and squawking if i stop joggling him...

still, have friend here who will take him inthe early morning. met rest of nct class today and they're all having same problems, which was reassuring. and we have a near-complete roof!

FullMoonHowler · 17/10/2008 22:54

good news - are things sorted with the scaffolders?

gothicmama · 17/10/2008 22:58

Hi all, just posting to let off steam, I am in a sea of sick ds2 has reflux so that explains all his sick, ds1 has a stomach bug and has thrown up numerous times today dd thinks she is going to be sick and dh who has been fab has fallen asleep.

FullMoonHowler · 17/10/2008 23:07

gothicmama - that souns a house of fun! been covered in sick twice today (and poop cos DD seems to have the most amazing power shower in her little bum!!) and that was bad enough, so hope they all get better soon!

gothicmama · 17/10/2008 23:13

thsnks full moon I feel better just sharing it here of to hang out anothr load of washing

lollyheart · 17/10/2008 23:38

I am so p###ed off with myself for giving up bf i wish i could turn the clock back to when ds2 was born, maybe if i did things differently he might of latched on from birth and i would be bf him now. i think my milk has just about dryed up witch is making me feel worse
He will still latch on as i tryed yesterday but i just dont have the milk i still can get a dribble if i hand express so its not totally gone, Otherwise all is great he sleeps well at night in his basket and is a real happy baby.

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pacita · 18/10/2008 11:34

Mellabella i just checked out the MAM uk online shop and will purchase their super tiny soother (0-2 months). Looks like it could work for DS. He is definitely a sucky baby so I need a surrogate before the skin of my nipples falls off!

Thanks for that.

ninja · 18/10/2008 12:16

I'd love to go for a run too - I've done a couple of wii fit sessions, but it's the idea of getting out of the house as here there always seems to be something else to do.

DD seems to like me bouncing on the birthing/exercise ball and has just gone to sleep (just in time for us all to go to an NCT sale.

DH excited about carrying her in babybjorn - he was forced to use my Kari-Me last week and had to reluv=ctantly agree that it worked really well, but he thinks it's a bit hippy for him.

MoonlightMcKenzie · 18/10/2008 12:20

Lollyheart Don't be so hard on yourself! You made the best decisions you could at the time and hindsight is 20/20.

BF IS still possible for you BUT you would need a lot of very good real-life support.

becaroo too! You probably would have had to do a huge amount of expressing to keep your supply going and given the other things you were dealing with I expect it would have be incredibly difficult. I myself can't manage to express once a day with a newborn and a toddler. I hope you start to feel better to.

mellabella · 18/10/2008 13:15

my apologies for promptly disappearing after my post last night. dh came home in a right state and then ds woke up... let's just say it wasn't the relaxing friday night i was hoping for

fullmoonhowler yes thank goodness for dh's family! his mum lives just on the other side of town and she's like my second mum so it's been really nice having her around. missing mine like crazy but i'm really missing my girlfriends from the states. it's hard making new friends with a new little babe. another thank goodness for mn!

pacita glad to have helped! hopefully he'll like these ones a lot better and give your poor nips some well deserved time off!

this took f.o.r.e.v.e.r. to type out with one hand btw....

pacita · 18/10/2008 16:08

Anyone has a sodapop baby? Everytime I feed DS, I can feel AND hear lots of bubbles and rumbling in his tummy. It is followed by explosive farts, and he seems to be in some discomfort. I've started giving him infacol today. Anyone else has had something like this?

gothicmama · 18/10/2008 16:30

pacita ds2 is similar and has been diagnosed as having reflux does he bring up his feed alot.
lollyheart i have given up bf too due to numerous reasons but ultimately it was the best decision for all of us as a familybut I do wish things could have been different but you go with you are given

FullMoonHowler · 18/10/2008 16:53

sorry, DD woke up last night so didn;t get back

pacita - same here, on infacol so we can get lots of bubbles out in burps and she feels better.

mellabella - I understand. in a way, at least I see mum cos she comes here once, maybe twice a year, but only see girlfriends when I go. this year it's even worse as we've all had/about to have babies (they're on their first though), all friends I've known from nursery, when we were 3yo!, one had a son in July, one was born this morning and another one due in march (after she miscarried one that was due same time as my DD). Hoping that I'll make friends now that DS is at school, but feel like when I used to go at baby groups, lots of different small established groups...

what's mam?

jearund · 18/10/2008 17:11

Pacita We're using the Avent 0-3 ones - seem to be fine for Dougie. I never thought I would go down the dummy route but apparently they are good for colic and sometimes it does calm him to have one (like right now - he's in DH's arms and was howling but is now sucking contentedly).

Potxola My 'wound' has been dodgy too. It seemed to be healing really quickly at the beginning but I think I've overdone it. Now I'm at the inlaws I'm trying to take it easy and the lochia is tailing off again (guess the antibiotics will be helping too). I don't know how we are supposed to manage to take it easy after a CS, especially with one child already. It's just not possible!

Touch wood Dougie has been less sick today. Maybe it's the Colief, or maybe cos we are keeping him upright in our arms for ages after a feed and avoiding moving him. Fingers crossed it carries on!

mellabella · 18/10/2008 17:16

fullmoonhowler that's awesome that your mum comes to visit you! mine came in june for two weeks and it was nice but she's a small town gal and is definitely much more comfortable in her own environment... I'm with you on the friends bit. 4 of my girlfriends from high school have had babies right around the same time as me, so we've been keeping in touch through emails but it's just not the same. they are all getting together with their babies so i'm feeling super lonely and left out when i hear about their get-togethers.

mam is a type of pacifier that's popular in the states. my mum sent me some for ds and their the only ones that he likes so far. the website is here

mellabella · 18/10/2008 17:19

oh dear, horrible grammar mistake should be they're

i need a nap

jearund · 18/10/2008 17:23

Pacita - re soda pops - yes, this is one of the problems we're having (as well as the sicking up 'cottage cheese'. He goes bright red in the face and squirms a lot, then suddenly his race returns to normal and he settles....until next time. We didn't find the infacol made any difference but we'll see if the Colief does.

We've been giving him the Colief on a spoon just after he's had the first minute or so of each feed but I was able to express a whole 9oz this morning (wow!) so we've got enough for tonight's feed plus enough left to mix the Colief in with a bit of milk and give it to him in a bottle before each feed, so we're trying that now as that's what it says to do on the bottle. Just hope I can get as much tomorrow - yesterday I did it a bit later in the morning and only got 4.5oz (after trying twice on each boob!). It's a bit of a faff but if it does work then it will be worth it. I'm still hoping the GP will prescribe Gaviscon at the next visit as on the web it says you can mix it with water and give it at the end of each feed.

Mellabella and Fullmoonhowler I really feel for you! My DH hasn't even gone out with his best mate to wet Dougie's head yet (although he will when they can arrange it) but he's wanted to be there to help me (after all, that's why he's taken paternity leave!). Admittedly he's not one to go out drinking more than once in a blue moon these days anyway but I would hate it if he was off getting hammered and then hung over and useless the next day too when we have 2 children to look after.

digitalgirl · 18/10/2008 17:48

I went to the walk-in clinic re: my suspected mastitis in the end as I couldn't be bothered to harass the GPs receptionist for an emergency appointment (are they all trained to be dragons?). The pain had subsided but it was still quite red and I had a slight temperature. So got given some ABs (for free, result). Then the pain started up again in the evening I think the night hormones make it flair up a bit. I think all the feeding on that side helped as I had a really good nights sleep and ds only woke up at 1:30 & 4:30 and his usual 7:00 but went back to sleep in bed with us until 9:30 - he normally only sleeps if dh takes him away from me at that time.

Really pleased I got some ABs before the weekend and that I recognized all the symptoms before it got worse, I'm actually feeling a lot better today. Thank goodness for MN!

Today we went to John Lewis and ordered their bedside cot - I think this will be a good tool for a gradual move for DS into his own sleeping space. I'll still be able to feed him to sleep.

Right - my next mini goal is to start expressing in the morning for an evening feed so dh and I can go out for our belated anniversary dinner. It was 4 years last Thursday.

FullMoonHowler · 18/10/2008 17:51

jerund - I really shouldn't take it out on DP really, he's normally brill and goes out veeeeeeeeeeery rarely (doesn't really drink), and with two kids we're kind of the sort of people who like having people over for a nice meal (must be the italian genes...), but it was the "washing your hair" line that was the last drop last night... had a good day all together though today (and I washed my hair too, though desperately in need of a haircut...)

*mellabella" - mum's the same, we're from a tiny italian village near Venice, and on top of it she doesn't speak english, and she's used to go out to friends/relatives/shops... on top of it, though of italian origin, she was born in France, so she's about to go there to visit gran next week, she's always saying that since I've moved here she always has a suitcase on her hand... but at least the flight is only a couple of hours, unlike for your mum

brains gone to mash! I have used mam dummies for DS and DD's got one too... need to sleep, me thinks....

ninja · 18/10/2008 18:04

Pacita - try baby massage for bubbles in the tummy, helped with my DP.

Kari-Me great today a Maebh won't settle for long, DH watching ManU (has a season tiocket and DD1 wanting LOTS of attention (well it is the weekend). V Useful for the supermarket shop yesterday as well. DD took a couple of photos of us using it, I might try and post them. Still not quite sure how to bf in it though