Sept 08 - Is it day or night?

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Hope no one minds me starting a new thread?

Hi Jearund I just read your post.Sorry to hear Dougie is suffering. We need to be patient and try everything, don't we?
No, lorea, has colic but no reflux, she keeps everything in. I am giving her gripe water, the Infacol was not working.

I forgot to mention my ds is at home ill with "gastro" a tummy bug he brought from nursery. He has not eaten anything other than rice cakes and bread for the last 2 days. I hope Lorea does not get it.
Anyone knows what else I can give him to eat?
I don't want him to vomit again.

It is great being a mum!!!!!!

Hurrah ladies!

Diego is asleep in the kari-me and I have TWO HANDS NOW! So glad he's taken to it and thanks to Potxola, Foxy and the rest for tips, videos and encouragement.

Potxola have you tried giving DS some sort of isotonic drink or alkaline lemonade to give him well hydrated? Very plain boiled rice and dry bread is fine, provided he's got enough hydration. There is a recipe for home made isotonic drink (limonada alkalina) containing bicarbonate, lemon juice, water, salt and sugar that my aunt the doctor swears by, but I don't know the right proportions. Will google.

Potxola link to spanish wikipedia with alkaline lemonade recipe. Sorry to all non-spanish speaking MumsNetters, they don't have an equivalent article in English...

es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Limonada_alcalina

Andrew is sleeping downstairs in the evenings too. Some eves he will fall asleep on us and go into carrycot and stay there but last week or 2 he has only stayed asleep if we've help him. Its really weird coz he'll settle himself in bed after 10.45 feed and 3.30ish feed and 7.30am ish feed but not usually during the day. We haven't tried getting him to sleep in his bed in the evening yet (he normally falls asleep about 8.30, 9pm ish) but thats pure lazyness really. Also don't want him waking up ds1.

He's been really odd with his feeds recently too. He doesn't seem to feed for very long- about 10 mins maybe- then he splutters up what seems like quite a bit and then doesn't want much more. But he's still happily going 4 hours between feeds so I'm assuming I don't need to worry. HV is coming later anyway so I'll know then what his weight is and if its fine I won't worry about it. Do you think he has just got more efficient? In fact a bit too efficient as he's obviously gulping it too fast and then sputtering it back up.

Had a really good morning with ds1 while Andrew slept till I woke him at 11am, we played and then made cakes. Then we went to B&Q after lunch to get wallpaper paste as he wants to make a hotair balloon and he was getting tired at started playing up in the shop (wanted to take the basket home with him). He was crying and having a paddy and the security woman came up to him and said "for goodness sake, stop crying"!!!!! Her tone of voice was horrible and I was so angry. I just glared at her but it made me so cross that all the way home when ds1 was still crying and whining I took it out on him even more than I would have. he's now asleep and Andrew is also sleeping outside in the buggy so I'm on here booking train tickets. Except I haven't made it to the train ticket website yet!

Inspired by an NCT meet up yesterday I swaddled Effy at 12pm and put her in her cot upstairs to see if she'd sleep during the day as she's been having 45m cat naps. I had to go and wake her up at 15:30! It's been bliss having time to myself to catch up on things, so as long as this doesn't affect her night time sleeping, I'll be doing this from now on. Now need to get her in bed in the evening as well and I've cracked it.

She's having tummy time at the moment but she really doesn't enjoy it. DS used to love it.

Pacita I love the kari-me too. It feels like it is prt of your body, really tight and safe.
Thanks for the link. I will go and check it out now
DebitheScottish They do get more efficient at latching and feeding really fast. 10 min sounds ok to me
Stupid security woman!

Sunshinemummy I can see we are all going though the same, trying to figure out what works with our babies. Glad it is going Ok for you too.

Update. since my last post, Loreas has feed twice and twice has gone to sleep BY HERFELF WITHOUT CRYING!!!!!!!!! the first time in the moses basket downstairs by her brother playing noisily with his train track and the second in her crib. She is still there now.
I think I have cracked it!

It's all trial and error isn't it? She's dropped off again now - think maybe I haven't cracked it, she's just having a sleepy day.

haven't been on lately and figured now that ds is finally sleeping i'd better post so it's easier to find you all.

lately, he's been having very cranky days. if he's not sleeping then he's up fussing. it sounds like his nose is a bit plugged up so i'm wondering if maybe he's caught a cold or isn't feeling well? he's usually such a laid-back little guy that the past few days have been tough. he's always fussing at the breast, when we're holding him, he refuses to fall asleep in his basket and will only fall asleep on dh or i and then we have to put him down. with dh at work all day and then coming home saying he's exhausted and holding ds until he starts crying then promptly handing him over saying he's hungry-then turning on the tv...., i'm slowly going stir-crazy at home! i just want like 1/2 hour to myself (okay how about a day?) where nobody is demanding my time or my breasts. now dh is going out with the guys tonight and working most of tomorrow, it's like no break for me insight.

phew, that was a lot to get off my chest. for all reading, thanks for letting me vent. i'm just really hoping sunday will be my day to sleep in and dh can get up with ds and feed him for a while. one can only dream......

MELLABELLA you have just described my situation till today. I think she has just leart to fall asleep by herself now. In my case my dh could not console her at all.

wow, the board has really slowed down for the time being.

i really hope that he's just going through a phase. it's getting really hard to just grin and bear it at night when i have to constantly keep picking him up and rocking him back to sleep hoping that he's sleeping enough to not notice that he's in his basket. i can't wait to be able to sleep for more than 2 hours at a time!

Potxola I don't know whether it's right or not but we do the same with Dougie sometimes, when we think he is very tired and needs to sleep.I hate leaving him to cry but as you say, when you find they won't settle whatever you do there is no other option. It feels like forever but is probably only about 5 minutes! In fact he's just dropped off now after being left to cry in the moses basket because he'd been awake pretty much all afternoon and is due another feed in an hour so I really wanted him to get some sleep! So if you're a bad mum then so am I

Spoke too soon, he's just woken up crying again!

How is your scar, the one in the outside,in the tummy jearund ? Mine had not healed yet, it is still bleeding from all this picking her up at night

Potxola, good work getting Lorea to sleep on her own. I'm trying to do the same with Katie. She cries for about ten minutes, with me sitting next to her and talking, she then falls asleep but she wakes up again very quickly. I'll keep trying though since she doesn't get herself very worked up. My back has been suffering from carrying her all day so I really need to try to get her to sleep in her cot for some naps at least.

diego has been feeding every two hours today, and is cranky and unsettled. He seems to have a tummy ache but still demands more and feeding is the only thing that settles him. Should I just feed him or will that make it worse? Is this colic? Any advice welcome!

ds has been acting like your diego pacita he's getting to the point where he's over feeding and spits it back up. i start feeding him and when he starts fussing i've been giving him a dummy which so far has been working as he's fallen asleep on my chest just recently. maybe it's just comfort sucking he's after?

HV came and weighed Andrew today, he is 12lb almost exactly and is back up onto the 75th centile which is where he was when he was born so that's good to know. I think I just have to keep repeating to myself that he is not the same baby as ds1 was and so I shouldn't expect him to be the same and its good that he doesn't want to have really long feeds as that did get me down sometimes with ds1- he was a very sucky baby who took forever to feed. DS2 just seems to get on with it and then stop when done without sucking for the sake of sucking.

sunshinemummy that reminds me that I haven't even tried tummy time with DD. She is getting some neck strength now so she might benefit from it.

I have just had 2 horrible days looking after DS and DD without my mum /stepmum / dad popping round to help. I was feeling pretty good about having 2 small children until now, but now reality has kicked in I am really tetchy and moody . DS is such a ball of energy I can't get anything done and poor DD has to come second all the time as he is usually trashing / climbing something when I am trying to change / feed / settle her. Her crying woke him up from his lunchtime nap so I had no peace and my nerves were shredded by the time DP got home. The only good thing is that DD had her 6 week check and all is fine and we saw a squirrel in the park this morning .

I have got DD settled in her moses basket upstairs in the evenings now, so at least I get some peace in the evenings. BF is still going well but my breasts are feeling rather 'battered'. I keep snapping at DP when he tries to touch them .

Moan over! I am going to find some chocolate. I bought some cheapish red wine from Tescos and it tastes horrible, even in my state I can't bear to drink it.

I thought I might have had a solution for when Maebh's restless and won't settled.

She was having one of those evenings, DH managed to settle her with some finger sucking, rocking ... then when her put her down she just woke up and was crying again.

Anyway I had to get DD1's bath ready so took her up with me, as soon as I turned the bath on she quietened down, took her out - screaming again, back in and she went to sleep. So I left her in the bathroom in her moses basket while the bath ran feeling very happy and thinking I must share this with you girls in case it helped.

But of course she woke up when the bath stopped

It did remind me though that white noise is supposed to settle some kids - hoovers or the noise between stations on a radio, has anyone got white noise to work??

ninja i've heard that too. I was using the Dyson the other day and DD was suddenly very quiet and interested in what I was doing.

Does that mean I have been Dyson-ing more than usual to keep her quiet. Not so you'd notice .

No - I have to admit I haven't used the vacuum trick and dion't intend to! (At least I know where it is unlike the iron )

Mellabella, I think you're right, it was comfort. Also, I just read somewhere that we have less milk in the evenings and that makes them want to feed more often. Who knows? I laid down in bed with him alongside me, gave him the nipple and he was sound asleep within 15 minutes. After a tricky transfer (during which i had my fingers and toes crossed) I have managed for him to stay asleep in his cot. I am now off to bed myself, as feel completely knackered. Did not manage to nap at all today.

White noise: I have a DAB radio and I tried the white noise in the FM setting. It didn't work. Hairdryer seems more successful.

Night night ladies. xx

By the way, meant to ask: what dummies are you giving to your LOs? I bought a couple different ones and DS hates both! They seem too big for his mouth and he makes gagging noises - very unsettling...

I'm soooooooo tired! DD's been restless for 3 days, and on an extra feed a day too. she doesn't sleep for long during the day, keeps on waking up and then only goes back to sleep in my arms... my back and arms feels just broken...... and then, when she finally settled tonight aroun 8, after I had dinner and said I was going for a wash, DP said "you're not going to stay long, you're not going to wash your hair are you"... I haven't even had the luxury to go to the toilet by myself, if dd wasn't in my arms I was rushing with washing, dishwasher, cleaning cos the place's a tip and all went pear-shape tonight cos he rang me 1/2 hour later than he was supposed to be home to tell me he was going out for a drink with work mates, so he was then p'd off that DS1 went to bed late, cos I couldn't prepare dinner early with one crying on my boob cos she was colicky and her brother just being a lively 4yo..... at least he goes out to work and have adult conversations! the closest I get to that is here! just wanna go out and scream.... sorry, rant over.....