Sept 08 - Is it day or night?

[lollyheart]

Hope no one minds me starting a new thread?

Im back from having my implant put in, i thought it was going to be painfull but all i felt was the local going in

we have got to wait a week now before we do the deed. we have not done the deed since ds2 was born poor dh sorry tmi

ds2 has his 1st jabs on monday, its normaly packed in the docs, i hope we dont have to wait to long.

DD is having a bit of a feeding frenzy this afternoon. I have just managed to put her down for a few minutes, she is watching Sky News . I hope this isn't going to carry on all day and evening. We need to pop out shortly so hopefully she'll doze in the pushchair and my breasts can fill up again.

DS was very excited by the snow, he has been saying 'nowy nowy' all morning . Bad mummy had never got round to getting him wellington boots so I am on a mission to Primark this afternoon to get a pair, we went into Mothercare the other day but they were £12!!!!

we haven't done the deed either. I can't bring myself to when ds2 is snorting away next to me

meg 'ed about the cost of wellies in m'care. i did buy ds1's thomas wellies from m'care online for 6quid, i think. that was, of course, before i saw them at a different shop for 2-3 quid. typical. ahh well.

There are few things further from my mind than sex, I have to say! Although I'm still pretty tender where the stitches are - still feels fairly bruised under the surface, which is normal according to consultant. I guess it's because there are several layers of damaged tissue, not just the top layer, which is healed.

Thanks for the advice Starlight, I'll do that - be good to have all the info, even though I have absolutely no doubts about opting for a CS next time.

T is a bit more back on track today after his feeding day of doom yesterday (6 weeks today, so not really a surprise). It's so funny that waking twice between midnight and 6 now seems so horrendous, when once he was waking 3-4 times! I'm so glad we've managed to get him into a routine, and we did it so gently that there was no real leaving him to cry or anything, and I'm convinced its improved the colic etc. Am waiting for teething to start for it all to go wrong though! I'll just try to enjoy it while it lasts...

I'm so excited, our broadband is finally up, so I can actually do stuff instead of it taking T's entire nap time to load the crappy dial up and do one post.

Hi all.

Oh poxtola....I really sympathise..my poor ds1 said today "mummy, you love Toby more than me". I only asked him to wait 2 mins while I undressed Toby!

Broke my heart

I seem to spend all my time feeding Toby or preparing bottles or holding Toby due to his colic/cold or telling Tom to be quiet....he is feeling very left out, but what can I do? I try to include him and do things that involve one hand - like colouring etc...

My sainted PIL are taking him for a sleepover tonight and out tomorrow and I feel so guilty but I am glad to get a break from him......

*I AM THE WORST MUMMY IN THE WORLD**
sob!

potxola we got the bedside cot from John Lewis - I think it's the same price as the one in Mothercare.

Not such a good night last night. DS wouldn't sleep for more than 15 minutes in the cot, despite the new swaddling blanket. Cant work out if he's too old for swaddling or if he was having a hungry night. This morning I put him in between me and DH and he slept like a baby! Bath night tonight, he's been such a good boy today I hope it continues...

He's getting really good at holding his head up now, it's so sweet to see him looking out at the world and making more eye contact with everyone

hopefully since doing the deed 3 weeks ago I hsven't really been in the mood since. it was fairly uncomfortable and i was sore for the rest of the day and i didn't have nearly as much 'tissue trauma' as you did. So I would say wait till you're ready and when you are use PLENTY of lube otherwise you might put yourself off it for a while like i have.

Also, its not helped that I feel knackered in the mornings and evenings which is generally when dh is around.

We took Maebh swimming today - she did really well and took it all in her stride! I guess it's just a glorified bath for her.

I know myy dd1's older, but i've found games on the computer a god send as she can play and i can sit next to her and feed M etc. DD1's been a lot better this week in terms of demanding attention.

I just find poor M has to fit in with dd1's activities and is often lumped from place to place when she's in the middle of a sleep - I hope it doesn't do her too much harm. She also spends a lot more time than dd1 was just being dumped somewhere as long as she's quiet.

I'm lucky with dd1 being 5 I can leave her alone with M for a short time

Oh dear this is going to be a long post...
So I think I've got thrush again. Its always been more painful when ds latches on to the right rather than the left, but it used to subside once the milk was free flowing. But now I have a pain in the breast tissue, immediately behind the areola, at the top. Its a very localised area but I can't feel any lump indicating an abscess or anything, and that nipple is a slightly different colour to the other one. Also ds has nappy rash that won't shift so that could be fungal too I guess. I've been on antibiotics for the last week for a womb infection, which can cause thrush to flare up, although I have been guzzling live yoghurt.
But here's the dilemma. My dMIL is staying right now, she's lovely and helpful and kind and nice...but really knows how to make a crisis out of a molehill. When I had deep breast thrush last time she was on the phone every day and phoning round medical people she knows and sourcing tablets of good bacteria and all sorts. I sound like such a bad person don't I? I love how much she cares, but feel smothered by how its expressed and it really tests my patience. So, how do I explain that tomorrow I need to go to the doctors, and probably then pick up a prescription, without saying the words 'breast' and 'thrush' in the same sentence? Answers on a postcard.

I'm having a bit of trouble with dd too (she's 18 months) but it mostly revolves around the fact that our TV has broken. So there's no mr tumble for her to watch during feeds and so she's climbing all over me and ds and wanting me to read books to her. And Granny won't do it seems...

Today I bought dd a load of arts and craft stuff, being so young this is a whole new world for us, but I got play-doh tools, glue, gallons of paint, huge pad of paper, paint brushes, pots and all sorts. I'm introducing a few things at a time but she's loving it.

Carrieon - can you pretend it's a routine appt that you'd finished about, or say it's something to do with your bits, or just say it's for vaginal thrush? I hope you manage to fix it,

bec you are not the worst mummy in the world! I read a book about having your second child, and it talked about how you could 'fall out of love' with your first one. I've def experienced a bit of this, especially when she climbs all over me during a feed and leans on ds's head so he pulls off the breast which is agony. I hope your PIL give you both the break you need - he'll have a wonderful time, you'll have some guilt-free baby time, and you'll be really excited to see him back again I'm sure!

I guess I've said the word 'vaginal' to my DFIL (he asked what 'NVD' stood for on Finn's birth card from the hosp ) so i can say it to my DMIL too... Oh dear

Things that T has latched on to today:
1 - breast
2 - bottle with 1oz of ebm
3 - syringe of gripe water (I no longer need to depress the plunger, he sucks it out himself)
4 - SIL's forearm
5 - my upper arm
6 - his own fist when his face landed in the vicinity of it while I was burping him. He then made himself cry sucking too hard on it, I think
7 - a muslin wrapped around my finger (had long finger nail so didn't want to stick it straight in)
8 - the side of the bottle of gripe water (mostly just because I wanted to see if he would. How cruel am I?)

Things he has not latched onto:
1 - Any one of the 3,000 different dummies we have bought him. Dear god, why on earth are all of the above things acceptable for comfort but a dummy isn't? It's so tragic seeing the joy on his face when he's latched onto a finger, forearm, or his own fist (unless he makes himself cry), and he falls asleep instantly, but he can't yet keep his hand in his mouth long enough without me holding it, and I sure as hell am not sticking my finger in his mouth for 20 minutes! The dummy, however, is received with wails and sobs, and it takes him a good 15 minutes to calm down from the horror of it. Mutant baby. He's lucky he's so cute.

I take it you've tried those brand new all-singing-all-dancing tommee tippee ones that are the same shape as your nipple?

We love the MAM ones, but that's mostly coz they don't have one of those irritating flappy handle bits on the front.

Look on the bright side, once he is able to keep his thumb/fist in his mouth, you'll have reached the holy grail of self-soothing - no jumping out of bed for you when he looses the dummy for the millionth time!

We have tried Tommee Tippee (airflow, silk texture and normal), MAM, Mothercare own, boot's own, some insanely expensive ones off the internet, and some seriously cheap ones from sainsbury's, which are old fashioned cherry shape, and the only ones he will vaguely contemplate, typically. I am just clinging on to the fact that he will be able to comfort himself in a few weeks (months? please no!) when he has the co-ordination to hold his fist in.

Not looking forward to getting him off sucking his thumb in public in a few years time though! I think it is the most gross habit in the world, and should be kept for night time only. At least a dummy can be confiscated, the NSPCC may have something to say if I confiscate his thumb...

I think thumb sucking is sweet - however as you say it's even more difficult to stop than dummy.

DH does stick his finger in M's mouth for AGES - he's going to want to try her with a dummy and as MIL is coming over to stay tomorrow, so will she. I have to say I'm secretly hoping she'll spit it out (although I might also be secretly relieved if she took it and it soothed her)

carrieon ooh, that sounds like AGONY! You are very brave to still be bf through all that! (I also always get thrush when on antibiotics)

Thank you for your kind words I feel really rubbish today, like I cant do anything right. Ds1 thinks I dont love him and ds2 is a velcro baby Ds2 also has a cold which isnt helping matters as I am worried about him getting really poorly (long story - health issues with ds1 when a baby).

Re: dummies..ds2 wont have one either! Ds1 LOVED his - too much so really. Ds2 will suck on one for about 30 seconds before he realises there is no milk coming out! My dsis had to try loads of different ones til my nephew would use one. We are using a MAM one she recommended at the moment but he isnt too impressed tbh.

Hope you get your thrush sorted carrieon (and good luck with the DMIL!)

OK so why has Maebh, who a couple of weeks ago was reliably doing a 4.5 or 5 hour stretch and had done a 7 hour one at night, now feeding more and last night didn't even manage a 3 hour one? Any tips?

sounds like another growth spurt ninja. can't get james to sleep for more than an hour and it's driving me mad. you're lucky you get 3 hours!

I was very impatient and annoyed with dd1 for the first month or so after Katie was born but it's gotten a lot better now.

carrieon - I really feel for you with thrush, as I am just coming through the other side myself. Plus it was partly your advice that got me the right medication, so it's terrible to hear how you are suffering. I had no idea how painful it was until it happened to me.

My suggestion on the MIL thing: you have the classic problem of steering her to help in ways that YOU NEED rather than "helpful" things SHE WANTS to do. (My relatives specialise in this... ). Can you say "There's something I have to sort out at the doctor today. It would really help me if you could play with dd to keep her occupied."

Good luck!

Oh, it's Ponymum.

Things I have learned about thrush when breast feeding:

1. I didn't know about the risks of thrush if either mother or baby has taken antibiotics. When DD was a week old she got a horrible eye infection and was given anti b drops for it. Now they tell me this is prob what triggered the thrush (her mouth, my nipples). I will think carefully next time I'm offered antibiotics.
2. For severe thrush they give the oral antifungal fluconazole, which I am taking. You take a very high dose for the first 24 hours. On day 2 DD became hysterically distressed screaming for several hours, to the point where we nearly took her to hospital. NHS Direct were really helpful and advised that it was most likely gastro enteritis which is a known side effect of me taking the flucanazole!! It's OK now that I am on the lower dose but it was so distressing to see her in that much pain. I just wish the doctor had warned me when prescribing it!

Had my 6wk check yesterday, well, nearly 8 wks really. GP was really nice and unfortunately confirmed what I suspected - might have a slight prolapse as a consequence of trying to push baby who was face up and ventouse, and that they really haven't done a good job in stitching me up . guess I should have expected the possible prolapse because of the type of birth, but really about the stitches, 2 MWs and another GP commented on the "could be better" stitching, you'd expect better from a woman, especially after it took her 1hr to get changed into her scrubs (didn't want to get dirty) and had to do her job with no anesthetic as I'd been given the max dose already... at least GP was nice and is referring me to a specialist centre awarded for their job in the field... and no running, so need to find other way to loose weight .

on another note, for all sling experts - I'm going to get a wrap sling (fleece pouch is great but not for long time wearing), but didn't want to spend much. cheapest I've seen is the moby, is it good? and how long do you realistically wear it for?

mamapumpkin Glad to hear your DF is doing better.

MuwahahahaMom I wouldn't use the matress and I live a manky life!

Carrieon I hope the thrush clears soon. I know exactly what you mean about falling out of love with no.1. I have to keep consiously reminding myself that he is lovely because quite honestly sometimes I just can't see it

FullMoonHowler I'm very sorry about the prolapse and about the stitches. FGS this is what these people are supposed to be trained to do. Glad you're getting a good referal. Re slings: They are new to me this time, but I think the moby is an easy one to start as it is very stretchy, but this also makes its life shorter as it becomes a problem when your baby gets heavier. I have the close and the tricot slen. I use the close the most, and tbh am still learning!