Sept 08 - Is it day or night?

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Hope no one minds me starting a new thread?

Debi dd and ds1 love going to the lookout in bracknell, i grew up in bracknell so i used to go there all the time when i was younger, its nice to take the dc places i used to go as a child.

hopefully If T is like my no.1 which he does sound like, your efforts will be rewarded with no nipple confusion (no way - gimmee the milk through a straw if ya like, just be quick about it) and no fussiness with temperature (hot/cold - whatever,- gimme NOW).

Well done DG

Right - am off to wax my hairy hands to improve my typing.......

fully bf, but with a bottle of ebm as last feed (trying to make sure she gets a big feed to try and get her to sleep through - not working yet through ...). Not sure how long I will bf this time. DS was fully bf for about 6m, then mostly bf for another few and twice a day til 11.5m - by then I was left with empty sock for boobs and guess the bottle was easier for him... not sure about this time (worried I won't even have the empty socks left this time )

oh, welcome back hopefully

Dave (loving the name), that sounds about right. I've been giving him gripe water from a syringe, and he is actually capable of latching onto the syringe and sucking the gripe water out faster than I can push the plunger. Takes after his mummy on the appetite front!

Hopefully, Look at connecta carriers. my mate used one from birth with her son, now 5 mos old. she is 'didylicious' in this thread

lol at the name change dave. I've got a bit of plastering that needs done, can you fit me in?

lollyheart we should go to lookout together sometime. I really like it there and ds1 loves it too. We went up the big tower today which was quite scary as it was very windy at the top.

becaroo - I suspect A will be getting some formula next week - I'm just getting too depressed with sore nipples and I've hit up all the support that exists. No thanks to the dippy HV I saw today who had never heard of a breastfeeding cafe when I asked if the Brixton one really existed this afternoon, and when I said I was thinking of giving up bf and using formula just went 'fine, fine'!

However I decided to see if the cafe did exist, trundled down various Brixton back roads hoping I could get some useful leaflet or something as I'd get there just before closing. Turned out it was actually open for an extra half hour, and a lovely midwife from Tommies runs it (who was most interested to hear about a HV who didn't know about her...), and I got some ideas. Unfortunately they only have crap plastic school chairs in the room, so you can't follow the advice about comfortable positioning or raising the baby on cushions, etc. If my arm could hold 10lb of baby in place I probably wouldn't have problems! Instead I ended up with backache and a worse headache.

Still, the local clinic was great for getting A weighed (only 5 people at a time not 50), and the sensible HV who visited me was there if I did want any advice.

Thinking of introducing ff around 11pm, still expressing twice a day, to build up a supply of EBM for those days when I just collapse. My tolerance to fat has disappeared again, so getting enough calories into me without trapping me in the bathroom is difficult before trying to feed A as well. Plus fighting off seasonal/postnatal/stress-induced depression - I think I'd better start the happy pills again so I can be a happy cuddly mum for A.

Thanks everyone for your advice and support. Especially Dave - for a plasterer you really impress with your knowledge of BF problems!

Ninja what type of medication is flucanazole? The topical cream I am using is called clotrimazole.

I tried 3 of the BF helpline numbers today but no response - will keep trying. From what everyone has said I feel more confident that my GP got the diagnosis right and it is thrush - just want to make sure I am on the best meds.

I am hanging in there, still BF... ow.

Hi.
How do you find the time to chat to each other? If you have a secret potion, please share it.
Back with the Infacol again after I tried everything else except Colief which is the best, but you need to add it to the milk and I can't do that. Anyway, little Lorea is doing better and we manage to sleep better in bed. I have given up putting her in her crib, it does not work.
Good luck to those with Bf issues, please keep on trying and don't give up for luck of help. Somebody has to help you. They should.

I am going to have a toast with Nutella and a glass of milk to prepare me for the night ahead.Yes , I a not thin, well I have never been, so it is not an issue.
Hugsssssssss

Ponymum please get flucanazole as soon as possible, thrush was the straw that broke the camel's back that ended my bf career with dd! As someone has already said, its not licensed for lactating women, but that's because the clinical trials haven't been done, but they know that only a tiny amount gets through into the milk - less than it would be safe to prescribe to the baby. Don't be fobbed off with nystatin or any other anti-fungal, and don't be fobbed off with a one-off dose either, you need a 'loading' dose, and a week's course. There's a brilliant leaflet by the breastfeeding network here that is designed to be taken to your GP if they are unfamiliar with the condition and the treatment.
I really hope you get it sorted soon!

I've been having lots of pain while feeding on the right hand side for the last few days, then today I was sitting a bit differently and there was no pain at all - I've heard it said that the tiniest change in position/latch can make the world of difference, but I never believed it could be so true!

We've been having lots of trouble keeping ds awake during the day for any length of time, but today he had two awake periods, and for the first time he's slept past 9:30 in the early evening before his last feed, hoooray! We have introduced a bottle of formula late night which is lovely when I'm feeling tired and emotional at the end of the day. But otherwise bf still going well, I can't believe it!

Imoscarsmum The Wilkinet does a version with extra long straps for people size 20+. My DP gets in to it and he's a size 18.5-19 collar. I've used it myself even tho it's too big and would thoroughly recommend it, it is an upright carrier but carries from behind the knees so not too bad on the hips. It slso distributes the weight well, no back ache unlike the Baby Bjorn that has wrecked my back today.

Hopefully Glad to hear that it was lack of internet that was keeping you away and not something serious. I would try a Wilkinet carrier for the reasons i've highlighted to Imo

Potxola You have toast with your nutella? Me wife would laugh at you. Nutella must be eaten out of the jar with a spoon doncha know?!

DaveTP - go on, tell us then. How many sugars do you have in your tea?

carrieon thanks for the link - can't seem to open it (think i am too tired) but will definitloeu follow up tomoroow. Thanks!

Ponymum I know you are tired, but you need to be on the ball tomorrow to get a Fri GP appointment. The treatment you have been given has a good chance of not working.

Good luck!

Ponymum Clotrimazole and Fluconazole are both anti-fungals so in theory will both work for thrush.

Fluconazole, (brand name Canesten) comes in oral/tablet form and is commonly prescribed for thrush in the milk ducts. I think the BFN Thrush leaflet linked below talks of fluconazole as treatment for ductal thrush.

Make sure you get the dosage and duration as stated in that leaflet. Ductal thrush can be persistent if it is treated in half measures.

Good luck.

Right - got the link to the leaflet. That is SPOT ON! I have just organised a phone appointment with my GP this morning. I will fax her the info if she isn't already aware of it, and I will insist on the fluconazole today. Luckily we have a really forward thinking rural surgery with its own dispensary, and they have a great system for phone appointments and prescription deliveries.

I really was tired last night wasn't I? Great spelling...

Ponymum Glad someone linked to the leaflet - I was just about to. I can third getting it treated properly as I had it for 3 months due to not having at treated (and DD had teeth - ouch) I still have the scar, yes really, to show for it.

LollipopmotherHG thanks for the info. had a look at their website and ordered one. Result! Ta.

LollipopmotherHG thanks for the info. had a look at their website and ordered one. Result! Ta.

Anyone think I should be worried - Charlotte is 5 weeks old and now hasn't had a poo for 48 hours. Previously, she was one or two times a day. She's mostly ff and has plenty of wet nappies. She makes faces like she's trying but nowt there. no other signs of discomfort.

Foxy - Leaflet says 'high dose initially, then lower dose twice a day for 10 days' - any idea what dose that is?

Thanks forthe leaflet - will take it to the GP later this morning as I think I still have thrush (the nipple I only use to express milk is just as sore as the one I feed with). Plus printout of abstracts saying lofepramine is safe with bf, in case the GP says 'book say no' - my appt is with theGP I've never seen.

For reference, canasten cream is clotrimazole, the canasten capsule is flucanozole (also sold as diflucan). I'm allergic to the former but not the latter...

DP slept on the sofa last night as he had a big day at work today, so I thought "yes, space for myself!", as DD was having a bit of a funny night and came straight to bed with me. I prepared her side, and laid down next to her. but oh no, that wasn't enough! we both slept just on my side of the bed, with her sleeping in my arms , cos after 2 hours of her chatting and whingeing I'd had enough... my right arm is hurting again - re-occurring thing which eventually results in my neck and back getting completly blocked for a few days, up to a week, so I have that to look forward too... and trying not to use my right arm with a baby that spends most of the time in my arms is not really realistic... still can't believe how much easier DS was... and obviously then I didn't have a 4yo to look after and DP had just lost his job so was at home...

couldn';t find anything to wear this morning, couldn't find house keys, had to change DS again cos DP hadn't realised his top was dirty (and couldn't find clean top as I have piles of washed clothes all around the house) so rushed to school under the rain, poor DS was so good at running most of the way there... just hoping the day will get better..

nc the amount you need will be standard - it mentions it in the leaflet that you get with the medicine.

Just found this link which looks useful

That link is for Ponymum as well