June 2008- Some are sleeping, others weeping and some are just eating

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Thought I'd start the new thread using paro's suggestion

Hi Amber, I did buy some over the counter at the pharmacy, as I thought B had reflux. I think it depends on the pharmacist, as the box says not to be given to children under 1 year unless on supervision. Probably because it contains sodium.

hi all..quiet today - was rushing about so qutie glad to sit down (although fingers crossed does seem to have tired madam out)...
needahandwelcome back.

amber not sure about infant gaviscon but I know that 2 friends have had reflux issues (one of whom also ff) and had to go to the doctor (in one case repeatedly) to get it diagnosed...sounds like this is what whinegums did

Whinegums - that does sound exactly like P - thanks for posting. Currently going cold turkey without my nightly Magnum . Think I will go to bed instead and try and catch up on some sleep.

P.S. I have uploaded a couple of pictures of Peter and I.

cute pictures alipalli!

I've got no chat, hence no posting, DH is working night shift for a week starting tonight, so currently sitting alone watching poor TV offerings and listening out for squeaks through the monitor - without even so much as a biscuit in the house to consloe my lonely self!

Sending LauraT virtual hob nobs - choc ones of course. And a virtual magnum to Ali (vitual ones are dairy free).

Cool picture. Think I should take a photo of a bonfire of all the baby books I've got and then one of Ryder holding a match . I've got a Sears book Ali, not the same one though. Bit too liberal for me I think, but they have a very loving approach don't they?

Hi guys, it is quiet isn't it?

Laura, comfort yourself with thoughts about SCD tomorrow!

Ali, love the photo! I took your lead and updated mine too - manage to catch Alex mid dribble this week!

Is anyone else being driven mad by competitive parenting in RL or is it just me? I should try and ignore it I suppose but it's hard when you feel someone is trying to put your child down to make themselves feel better . Just interested in others' experiences.

Ignore

Lol! Thank you!

Sponge five is right ignore it all. What makes you think they are putting you down? It could just be their own anxieties about their LOs coming across in the wrong way. For example I am a bit spooked by P's weight being so high, so I am keen to know how much other's LOs weigh. This runs the risk of upsetting the Mums with diddly LOs although this wouldn't be my intention IYSWIM

Penguin I agree the Sears books are very liberal. Before having P I thought the risk would be that I be too much of a disciplinarian, its all completely gone out of the window now though. I was almost convinced yesterday that co-sleeping is the way forward, despite my cousin's marriage having broken down after the baby moved into the bed and he (my cousin) never moved back again

I have just hit a new slummy mummy low. P was crying about an hour ago and so I took him in the sling to buy a paper. The bad bit was that I was still wearing the tshirt I had slept in. I figured as it was under the sling who was to know!

sponge what has been said? I've not experienced it but only know the MN mums (who are all lovely) and 2 other nice ones with kiddies so no-one to compete with. I have found though that one baby can do one thing before another but the other catches up quickly and has other skills. I used to think Luke was way ahead of another baby who is 2 weeks older (and he kinda was) but the other one's caught up massively and now seems ahead of Luke so at this age I guess it's silly to compare.

I read up about silent reflux and I am 100% sure this is what Luke has. He is textbook even to the gagging on his fingers thing. This is because their throats hurt and they try to get their fingers down to soothe it (therefore causing gag reflex). Poor thing. He's gone right off feeding now and it has taken me 1.5 hours to get 4 measly oz down him. Plus I had to do the distraction technique - stuck him in his baby gym, raised one side and put the bottle in his mouth for a few sips every 5 mins or so. I don't blame him. I've had that before and it's miserable and really stings the throat (even worse if it goes up nose).

So waking in the night is getting worse. 11pm bottle, 12.50 wake, 1.50 wake, 2.30 wake and bottle and then various grumblings until awake at 6. Still he's down for a nap now without a single cry or grumble.

Londoners - is Tuesday fixed? I am seeing a nursery so will meet you afterwards so need to know where you will be x

Ali I am so slummy it defies belief. I frequently go to the shops wearing my bed top and fairly often will then wear it the rest of the day and the following night!! I even wore a top covered in mango to the local shop and have worn trackie bottoms with poo on them (Luke's not mine!).

I am very despondent at my lack of weight loss. I thought I had done well this week but weighed myself and put on a pound. What is that about? I can only blame it on my possible period arriving - based on the gap between the last 2 but who knows! It's bound to come the second I get off the plane in Cyprus next week right?

I agree with you Amber, comparison at this age is meaningless - but this woman goes on and on about how advanced her LO is and how she can't believe she can do X,Y,Z so early. I'm so paranoid at coming across as a competitive parent I never say anything about what Alex is doing - having said that, he's not doing anything, so nothing to boast about!!

I've always been over-sensitive about what people say to me, so I suppose I'm going to be even worse when it comes to my little boy .

Really sorry to hear about Luke's sleeping at night .

hmmm - I guess I am a competitive parent after all then as I say all those things. oops . It's more excitement than comparing though. Please God I don't come over like that though.

Sorry to take over the thread but it is quiet and I've had a breakthough! Just did Luke a feed of Infacnt Gaviscon which I begged my pharmacist for and said I'd done all the silent reflux research on t'internet. Anyway for the first time EVER he took 180ml in one go!! He started out doing the face but I think that was because he was expecting to have pain but then relaxed and had loads. Such a relief. My dumb HV - I could kill her. When I went to the clinic to speak to her about it a couple of weeks ago she told me that he was probably bored of the formula we were giving him and to change brands - WTF!!!!!!!!!

Amber, that's brilliant news, infant Gaviscon is marvellous stuff - we had a much better night last night too. B actually seems to like the taste of the stuff too (I tasted a bit and it's VILE!) he was laughing when I was giving him it on a spoon this morning, and then started crying when it was all gone!

It is quiet here isn't it... Laura, what on earth were you thinking, a house without biscuits???!! Was that on purpose, or accidental? I have just finished off last night's leftover chocolate pudding... Have been all domestic and baked bread today. I'm getting back into cooking and baking now, and really enjoying it. God, what with my knitting and kitchen antics, I sound like a candidate for the WI...

Oh, TGF, thanks for the Ravelry link, I've signed up.

Amber, that's great news! Long may it continue . . .

TGF, I'd 2nd what whinegums says, I have also signed up to Ravelry - what a treasure trove of patterns and ideas! Thanks.

yay amber re gaviscon - if he responds like that sounds like your mummy instinct is right.and hv suck... as I said before Amber is officially smarter than hv.

Re competitve parenting, I do think it says more about parents than about LO -esp weight thing -you wouldnt worry if say your 13 year old hadnt grown nad his mates had so why is it so different now? I know that there are reasons to check for kids not growing but it seems ridiculous if you're feeding ok to worry about growing too much if they seem ok in every other way. also don't think its competitive on here - think its more an interest /supportive thing (ie is yours doing this yet?) and that is generally what I get with nct too.

am going to try and get there for tuesday but will be bit later so will need to know where we're going to be too...

madam still unsettled so persisting with teh sleep training - for someone who likes sleep so much when she gets it she is certainly resistant to falling asleep!!

Hi, computer was broken and DH was offshore again so I've been away for a while. Sorry to anyone I didn't respond too - I read back about 5 pages and then started to run out of time. Fraser is crying so I'd better stop and go get him... congrats Amber on the controlled crying, we've done that here too and it has made a difference. It's heartbreaking, but if they sleep better every other night then it must be worth it. Fraser was getting sleep-deprived I think.

I must say the sleep training has revolutionised my days. I now get 2 hours in the morning anf one and a half hours in the afternoon on my own in the flat to tidy, watch TV or whatever I want. He still cries sometimes when I put him down for a nap but no more than 10 mins now. Mostly he doesn't cry at all any more.

poppy thanks - Jade Goody would be smarter than most HVs!!

PS - I went on my first bus today and it wasn't as bad as I thought. Mostly because Luke was alseep and secondly because it wasn't crowded. I'll be scaling Mount Everest with him soon! .

PPS sorry every second post is from me.

amber am definitely going to persist - we're having a 'mare today as she is v.tired and won't nap...so have done some crying but not as much as we should (dh too soft bless him)

poppy you or the baby

Evening, where is everyone?

Amber - glad the gaviscon seems to be doing the trick and I'm impressed about the sleep training. How did you do it? Was it the leaving for 5 minutes, 10 minutes thing? I am jealous of those long daytime naps,I could really do with one in the morning to get some jobs done and one in the afternoon so that I can give attention to the older 2. I'd appreciate any advice, my other 2 always had regular naps in the day , but Ethan is reluctant to leave the action I think!

Poppy , hope you're night is better than your day.

Whinegums - lol about the WI

Laura - a house with a baby but no biscuits - what has the world come to???

Alli - lovely photo - how's the non dairy going?

PP - hope you're having a good weekend

Sponge - it is hard when it's your 1st and other babies seem to be doing more - or their parents say they are. Some are so competitive.But it all levels out in the end. I remember being so envious of my friends baby who slept through so much earlier than my ds2, and was calm in the daytime too, but then when they were weaned she had terrible problems getting hers to try new things and ds2 was much better. When they all start school together it won't matter which babies rolled from front to back 1st, but then of course comes the dreaded reading book level!!! etc...etc...etc.. and so it goes on. Like Sophie says - ignore.

AH - glad you're making some breakthrough with the sleeping.

Sophie - busy weekend?

Been shopping today for boots for the boys in case the snow comes soon!, now I have 3 days left to tidy up everywhere - which is our 3 bed house, a 4 bed apartment, a 1 bed apartment, games room and garden.
Then on wednesday I have my Stepdad, stepbrother and his wife visiting for 2 nights, they leave on Friday morning as the cameraman arrives.This week is going to be hectic, so when you see me on here , can you kindly kick me off and ask me what I've achieved that day??

In defence of HV's my first one was fantastic but she has moved and the juries out on the second one but so far in her favour, there are some good ones out there.

Busy weekend - 6 adults and 4 children for breakfast, yesterday was good, no beds to do, went swimming at parents, today 10 for breakfast 3 rroms to do, 9 adults and 4 children for BBQ lunch and fully booked for tonight and the next week, next Sunday we don't have anyone in yet.

Sebastian has a cold so we woke him at 6.30, he had a small feed and is now fast asleep. IF they are feeling unwell I have always found that it is best to let them sleep it off, they will wake when hungry.

Hi everyone - I've managed to make it on here first this morning!

debs good luck with all the tidying, sounds like you have your house full. Will your family help while they're over, or will you be running round after them too?

After my successful trip to the Newbies on Tuesday, I decided to be brave and bring A to Mamma Mia on Friday, as I'd missed it at the newbies. All started well and he was asleep through the adverts and trailers. But 10 mins into the film he started bawling and wouldn't stop! So I had to rush out without even bringing my car seat with me. Luckily the nice lady from the cinema went back in for it for me and gave me a refund. I really wanted to see that film! Then afterwards A went straight to sleep for 2 hours!!

Am with DH. He doesn't even get up once during the night to help settle A. I don't mind during the week, but I think he could make an effort at the weekend. Why is it my job? And now he's having a lie-in while I got A up and dressed!