June 2008- Some are sleeping, others weeping and some are just eating

[poppy34]

Thought I'd start the new thread using paro's suggestion

Hi everyone, haven't had time to post for a while, but I've been lurking - B has been quite clingy this week, so I've been spending a lot of time cuddling him - it's been the only way to get him to sleep most of the time. Hope that's a blip, and he'll go back to being able to get himself off to sleep again soon.

Nothing else to report. Hope everyone is well - impossible to respond to all the posts if you've been off for a few days!

Glasgow ladies and DQ (if you're reading) - shall we have a look at dates for our next meet up? Katyjo and Laura, do either of you know if there's any baby swimming classes around our way?

Hi guys, haven't been around much either - busy week. Have skimmed the posts but too much to reply to!

deb, looking forward to the tv programme - how exciting!

josey, looks like your DCs are doing you proud. And you dh has raised loads of money - fab!

Things are good here - Alex moved into his own room last night and slept from 7pm til 8am! However, the sensor mat went off at 4.30am which was horrible - both dh and me rushed through to find A fast asleep still on his mat! Don't know what happened.

Hope you're all enjoying the good weather - better late than never I suppose!

Hi Everyone

Poppy I don't know if girls are better than boys at sleeping. I would say Mia is def better than ds, but he was a really hungry baby and Mia is not! I had neighbours when ds was born and their dd2 was still waking up every 2 hours in the night and their dd1 only started sleeping well at 3!

whinegums Hope B goes back to his own self soon. I found these swim classes which I quite fancy but they have just started so may have to wait until the next course starts www.waterbabies.co.uk/index.php

Would love to meet up again soon.

sponge Glad alex is sleeping well, what a fright you must have had with the alarm going off!

Hi all,

whinegums had seen the waterbabies class that Katyjo mentioned too, looks good but is quite pricy. think I'm going to go to the ducklings class at Scotstoun, they can start from 4 months there. They probably run them at one of the southside pools too I would think? I would be keen to meet up again as well, shall we organise by email to save us boring the others with our plans??! (I owe you cake and a coffee!)

Has anyone else frequented Asda this week? they've got a special mother and baby thing on with bargainous stuff - we bought a travel cot for £25 and am planning to pop back to try and get the high chair too for the same price (none in stock today) they've also got great offers on nappies and stuff.

Tesco are having one too, but they had bright pink or blue travel cots, while asda is nice boring black!

hi all -thanks for all info on sleeping.. very interesting and quite reassuring.

amber I could do wednesday but looks like its off -sorry only just got round to checking net this evening.
lauratthanks for tips on asda - is it just baby gear (ie cots) or clothes etc?

hedgehog if you're being pfb then so am I...I'm reluctant to let my mother babysit ...although did realise I have to relax a bit as noticed madam getting dead fussy about feeding/holding her which is ok but when its her own doting sister she is doing this too its a bit much therefore think I need to ensure that she does get more time with other people (and this suits my mum just fine as is always so keen to spoil her grand daughter)..isaac sounds like he is turning into a real little character (love the going to sleep with his toy).

fungle isla about same as edie...she will make grabs for things but is much keener on me bringing them to her if she can get me to.

5gomad that all sounds so nice.. but does seem big shame if you won't get to swim anymore when sil moves in? Is she not keen or just a bit thoughtless as seems a bit mean not to invite you and dss?

morning everyone, sorry no time to post personally but a question to you all.

anyone else still not had a period yet? ethan is nearly 13 weeks and i'm bfeeding, can't remember how long it was before.

happy monday to you all

Morning everyone

Hope you all had nice weekends and could get out in the sunshine.

Debs, I didn't start my periods last time till I was down to two breastfeeds a day (morning and evening), at about 10 months. I think that's longer than average. What about others?

Re grabbing, I seem to remember DS playing happily on his activity mat, including grabbing things, when he was about 10 weeks. Dorothy is just starting to knock stuff around and she is 11 weeks, so maybe it's a boy / girl thing?

sponge, ! scary monitor

aberdeen, glad things are getting sorted!

sophie, glad breaskfast OK yesterday. I hope today goes as well

Got to spend the week getting ready for holiday. Anyone used travel sickness pills with 2 year olds? DS is frequently car sick, so god knows what a ferry crossing in September will do to his tummy!

Morning Deb, and all. Ive still not had a period at 11 weeks, stopped BF at 5 weeks so am expecting one soon.
Well I feel ill. Headache, nausea, sore throat. I feel like you do when first pregnant(but im deffinatly not!). DP went off to Henley to work for the week so Its just me and the kids. Roll on Friday.
Im very of all you with sleepers, I wonder if Isla will EVER sleep for more than 6 hours. I must remember that she is younger than some babes on here, there is still hope!
Washing to hang, school uniforn to iron, better crack on. Have a good day all.

morning all,

deb have not had a period yet, thought I was about too - cramps... but nothing materialised and Isaac is 12 weeks tomorrow
poppy had to explain to DH that I would feel the same leaving him with anyone for an evening so glad that it is not just me.
DH did all the evening stuff last night - Bath, bed and....... Bottle, first time in a few weeks and he slept through too. He took 6(ish)oz does that seem about right?
fungle hope you feel better soon, I am dreading my first illness as I used to take to bed with a bottle of lucozade, bar of dairy milk and some DVD's, can't really do that with a LO though
UDC no idea on the travel sickness thing. We took a group of Brownies and Guides on the ferry a couple of years ago (going to euro disney) and found that some of the travel sick ones were better on deck - where they could see where they were going, and some were better below deck - where the movement is not as noticable had to keep them away from windows though. Would either of those work for DS?
Think I have done too much walking recently as have v v v sore thighs, maybe I should remember to stretch!

Re periods, I'm on my 2nd at the mo and what a PITA after 9 months of nothing! Last month it was fairly light but lasted 8 days .

I'm a happy Mummy this morning, Luke slept through for the fourth night in a row
Bed at 8pm, dream feed at 11pm (although only took 4oz) and then woke up at 7am. Yesterday he went to 7.30 so must also appreciate his Sunday morning lie-ins

Does anyone who's children have just started school find their LOs picking up horrible prases and habits?

DS1 was a horror yesterday (and DH was out again on another jolly day out - this time a golf day) so was left at home with the kids (again).

Took them to the play park around the corner and then visited the in-laws ( who dodn't even bother to ask DS1 about his first week at school - grrrgh)and he was a monster, answering back and coming out with phrases that we'd never used and he must have picked up from somewhere. Trying to explain to him that it is naughty so say such things, all I got in response was 'I'm Tired' which is his normal response when he doesn't want to do something. When I've suggested in the past that if he is tired he should go to bed for a kip, all I get is NO and a massive strop which appears to be getting worse now he is at school.

I am determined that I'm going to dump the kids on DH one weekend and say, right I'm off out for the day, you can look after them and then you'll appreciate what hard work it is.

He's had all summer weekends off playing cricket, quite often both days so i think it's about time he experienced single parenting. What do you think? I feel all I'm about at the moment is washing, ironing,cooking,feeding L tidying the house, washing up, washing, ironing, etc.etc. It's a vicious circle

OK. Rant over. Sorry guys, but I do feel better now.

Oh well better get ready to go to Tesco's. Found out last night I have no washing up liquid!

Hope you fell better Libra

Hi all

Laura My email is katyjoanne at hotmail dot com so we can organise a meet up. The swim classes are quite expensive but I would love to do it.

Poppy hedgehog I still don't like leaving ds with mil and he's two! I think the feeding thing is difficult when they are babies esp if you are bf it feels really weird letting someone else feed your child. I really do enjoy seeing the pleasure mums/mil get though and I enjoy having time to myself now, so it is def worth it.

Debs Mia is over 3 months now and I've still not had a period. I had a coil fitted about 8 weeks ago and got slight spotting afterwards. I gave up bf 3 weeks ago so I'm sure it will start just in time for my holiday

Speaking of holidays, we had booked flights with xl to cyprus so was very when I saw they had gone busted but managed to book new flights although will now arrive at 1.30 in the morning 2 hours away from the villa but at least we will get a holiday so feel very lucky.

On the same morning I was stressing about flights, dh phoned to say dept secretary had died in her sleep, she was 36! It really put things into perpective for me, I can't imagine what her poor husband is going through at the moment.

Libralady I know how you feel, at the mo I seem to chase around trying to tidy and spend time with dcs but feel like the house is still a mess and dcs are feeling neglected. I can't win, I thought I might try and write a schedule like supernanny - is that really sad!?!

hedgehog 6oz sounds good, I know with formula Mia should be having about 6oz a feed.

Right I better get on after complaining I never get anything done, I wonder if spending so much time on mumsnet has anything to do with it....?

HELP!!!!!!!! Yet another night of Luke waking at 4.30 for his feed and then not going back to sleep again. What do I do? He nods off in my arms while he's drinking but then thrashes about and munches his fingers when I put him down until he wakes up fully and then cries. I have tried taking him into bed with me and that also didn't work. Eventually got him down about 6ish and then he went to sleep for a whole half an hour. Fungle as you can see you are far from being the only one whose baby is not sleeping through. I am knackered. Thank god it's a night nanny night. I guarantee I will be the last to get a sleeping baby. Saying that he can stand up for about 20 seconds now with me just holding his hands so maybe he'll be the first walker? He loves it and looks up at me and laughs. I'm taking him to a baby music class today - don't ask me why - was a suggestion from a friend. Perhaps it'll tire him out.

PS Katyjo - we are also going to Cyprus! When are you going? we go on 25th and are going to Paphos (apparently a shithole but we have a lovely hotel!)

amber its catching..now had 2 days of minx waking up at 4am wanting to play ... ended up feeding her/rocking her etc but took about an hour to get her off. She had previously been sleeping through so am not sure if it is:

1. fact she went off to sleep earlier (8 rather than 9.30/10)
2. fact she is getting hungry (she is nearly 12 weeks and this is meant to be growth period)
3. she has been slightly unsettled due to a cold

I haven't been doing a dreamfeed (She hasnt wanted one) but going to try tonight.. hoep the night nanny has some tips for you.

katyjo good you got the flights but bit painful re timing. Just booked for florida next march so quite excited -I've not been and it looks lovely (although only got flights..not a villa yet)

DEBS just had my first period -but that was about 4/5 weeks after giving in on b/f... was VERY heavy (never had that issue before really) but oddly no pain (either that or fact that childbirth has upped my threshold ) which was dead weird. Consultant said it could take up to 6 weeks after stopping b/f so may not be that strange you haven't had one.

Right quiet day today I think as I'm done in..may also try to finish the jacket I was knitting for the little minx but has sat in its bag since before her birth

TGF thanks for the weaning advice. Peter's sleep has improved over the weekend, i will take it a day at a time.

Deb no period here

Amber I understand your pain. We have had a few similar nights last week. No advice really as I am sure you are keeping it dark; no eye contact; no chat already. I have imposed my own rules so that we don't end up creating an early morning co-sleeping habit:
before 6 - stay in nursery
between 6 - 7 can come onto our bed
after 7 the day can begin with going downstairs for a kick on the mat etc

allipalli that sounds v.sensible rules - am going to try dream feed/being strict tonight as don't want to create a habit. Glad peter being a bit better...

and you've reminded me re weaning, as a weaning novice , can any of the oldtimers recommend book/system - have heard good/bad things re annabel karmel? also my midwife was quite keen on what gina ford said re weaning (said it was a particularly good system even if you weren't necessarily using rest of her techniques). I know its some way off but am interested to thinka about it now.

also any essential /useful bits of kit.. I wasnt going to bother wtih a high chair to start with as thoguht could use her rocker (obvioulsy on a mat/well covered as I understand you get a certain amount of fall out from weaning).

Just listening to radio article about last episode of grangehill.. they're playing old episodes and its really taking me back(and showing my age)..

and so far zero knitting done as someone insisting I'm best used as a bed

poppy glad to have found a fellow knitter. finished most of the jackets etc before he was born but a couple of teddies which need ears, faces, tails etc. I am also being used as a bed.

amber sorry you are suffering, no advice at all just remember it will pass

LL sorry to hear about your DH/DS no advice just sympathy

katyjo glad to hear that i am giving them enough ebm, no where seems to tell you how much to give

sympathy to everyone else who is struggling, i am sure i will got my time to struggle soon

hedgehog you're way ahead of me with teddies etc...

also forgot to say that amount sounded sensible - its the max edie takes (she is ff) at any one feed

thanks poppy the rules are mostly for my benefit as I had a few weak moments when P wanted to start the day at 5am. P hasn't been told about the regime, he thinks he is in charge!

I am a bit boggled by weaning at the moment, as most of my effort is going into getting P to sleep without feeding him to sleep. I am intrigued by "baby led weaning" (BLW) as a concept. There is quite a bit of chat about it on the weaning and feeding boards, but have not worked out the pros and cons to my own satisfaction.

alipalli I'm afraid I have made a rod for my own back by chatting to/humouring edie last two nights..although she did go back to sleep..going to be stricter tonight and try dream feed

[whispers]..am bit scared by weanning/feeding board.. esp when know nothing - its all as you say a bit confusing -baby led weaning does sound interesting but know nothing about it

Briefly re weaning, we did Gina Ford last time. As always with her, the essential principles are great (ie new food every three days, times of feeding solids, order of foods to use), but you would probably want to vary the execution!

A friend did Baby led weaning. Her baby refused solids till 8 months, whereupon she had a slurp of champagne on Christmas day and has never looked back!

amberc We are going to Larnaca, have hired a villa there but fly into Paphos. I love Paphos we went to Protaras last year and it is a bit quiet, went down to Paphos for the day and had a ball. The habour is really nice, we hired a speedboat and went out for lunch. The beach isn't great but you can go to coral bay which is lovely. We are there from 27th -11th oct. Can't wait!!

hedgehog kellymom is a great site, is says something about from 1-6 months babies have 25-30oz bm daily so divide this by number of feeds, so 6oz is about perfect.

allipalli blw sounds good, but I would be really worried they would choke. I just gave ds a bit a day and gradually increased it. I liked annabel karmel recipes, ds loved advocado and banana looked disgusting but easy to mix up when you are out etc. I also like the idea of waiting til six months weaning is a messy business and an absolute PITA!!

Hi everyone. Libra, I think you should defo get your chap to have the children and get out yourself.

Laura, Katyjo - ta for swimming info. Waterbabies looks great, but ouch, expensive. Think I'll give ducklings a go first and see if B likes it. Laura, Scotstoun is closed for the moment, other Ducklings class is Gorbals on Sunday mornings. Will email you all about a meet up.

I have also picked up my knitting again - almost finished the little hoodie I was doing before B was born, but it's probably too small now! Will pass to friend who is due soon.

I saw the Asda offers too - think that travel cot is worth a go Laura, might pop down there later.

I think someone asked about lightweight buggies a while ago - any recommendations? I am looking at the Silver Cross Fizz so far or Maclaren Volo - I want something super lightweight with a very easy, one handed preferably, fold.

I am watching the weaning stuff here with interest - as B is one of the youngest, I'll be able to steal all of your tips!

Hope everyone is well.

whinegums just bought a mcclaren quest for our french place... its very light (I've got an xt here which is pretty light) , steers really well and folds up dead easily.. not sure what difference with volo is - probably doesnt have as many seat positions. I 've got a litle head support thing on it too - edie geting better with her head but likes this.. In fact think she now may prefer this to xt as sits up more so she can have a good nose about.

udc lol at your friends baby... if let edie do that will probably end up wanting white bread/pork scratchings from her brother so may choose more conventional method.

katyjo agree kellymom great (had good tips on mastitis) and also that am lazy so in no rush to start weaning given just got into routine now on feeding...