July 2008 - Living in the Twilight Zone of never quite enough sleep to be compus mentus

[libralady]

Just thought I'd better set up another thread as the old one is just about to run out.

rumpel Great new pics, is that MN on in the background? LOL

rumpel Great new pics, is that MN on in the background? LOL

Disney I am so in awe of you with everthing you have on your plate. I too will be thinking of Sam on the 15th. I have some Fenugreek left from when I was expressing. I can send it to you if you would like. Email me at lmcc2007atbtinternetdotcom and let me have your address. Not too sure if it worked for me but as I was having such issues with Luke's tongue-tie and such extreme tiredness dealing with him and DS1 and DH away much of the time my milk dwindled as I just did not have the time or energy to keep expressing to keep up my supply iyswim. I'm sure it did have an effect on bringing in my milk during the first week though. Obviously you are established now and just may need a boost. Let me know.
Hi to everyone else. Just had a quick skim through but now can't remember who said what. Right am off to bed and DH can do the dream feed tonight. Hopefully L will go through to 6am again
Night night

Hello all!

LIBRA1975 - good luck with bedtime routine - I try to dreamfeed ds but he always seems to end up wide awake! We did the same as MIN912 with dd - got sleeping through sorted, then bring bedtime forward - will prob do the same with ds.

JODIE - will you let me know what Thomasland is like? Some friends of mine are desperate to go next time they come to stay with us (they live in wales).

We watched the BF programme too, I thought the woman with the 'almost sexual connection' feeling was very odd. Love the idea of donating to a milk bank though, it never crossed my mind before.

CilC - I sat on the soa this afternoon and thought 'there's a funny smell in here' before realising it was me that smelt - and it was of baby sick!! lovely!! (I changed my top sharpish)

PIGLEY - enjoy yourself on saturday night - everyone needs time out to remain sane and human. Know what you mean about the guilty feeling though, it's our wedding anniversary on Friday and we're out for a meal on saturday night, leaving both dc's with nanna for a few hours - and i've been stressing about it for days and days!

Also agree that lush bath bombs are great - but def not the ones with bits in!!

ANother good night.. 6 hours again! thats 2 nights ths week, I hope this is the tide turning and not Sam teasing me. Also DS1 slept until 6.30 (so now ish) and I fel (almost) refreshed. DS1 in Nursery this morning so can relax with my baby at home

Rumpel Meant to say, congrats on 2lbs in 2 days... How did you do that? Starve?? You'll be giving Kate Moss a run for her money by christmas

hi all

im going to join you on the dieting front have i missed the link somewhere?
i lost 4 stone last year then got pg...@)

Morning Disney tryhere I lost all my baby weight and an exta stone, then got pregnant! I'm a short arse (5'3) so every oz shows!!! But at least we know we CAN do it!!!

Rumpel - my dh saw the Ramones live when they were all alive - all the kids where he works (17 / 18 year olds) think he is really cool (and old!!)

We're all a bit snotty here, and i already smell of baby sick because Poppy keeps choking cos she can't breathe properly then the milk comes back. The glamour of parenting...

Wow would love to lose 4 stone...just aiming at 2...
I had a good night, but why is it that a good sleep can make you feel more tired?

mornin all, another rough night, slept frm 8-12 and then was constantly up, main sound,s cryin etc....

im exhusted...

name change- mummy2bsoon to this one! cudnt tink of a creative one!

Thats a nice name change. I like it!

Morning all. Anyone else still got strong linea nigra? R 7 weeks old and pigment still as strong as ever.

Am impressed at people going out. Can't imagine ever doing it again. What age do you all think is OK to leave a baby with a babysitter? (not thinking of any time soon btw). We have no family near, so can't do that. Can't even leave R with DH for 10 mins at the moment as he is on crutches, and will be for another month or so. I love R to pieces but no me time at all is quite waring...

EEC, Is R in any kind of night routine? Maybe you could get someone to 'sit' for you if you are out with friends and your DH could be there giving instructions?

Sam goes down at about 7.30 and it's very rare that he wakes before I wake him at 11 for his Dream Feed, so I think he'd be alright with a sitter, all they'd have to do is cuddle, change or feed. It's when they get a bit older it might be difficult.

Hi All

EEC don't know when you can leave LOs with a sitter as the earliest I left any of mine was 8 months (when I went back to work). It wasn't as abrupt as that, BTW, I suppose it started at 6.5 months when I did settling in visits with the cm. I also still have a very mucky belly button, but i think the line is starting to fade at the top and bottom, IYSWIM. If i remember correctly, my belly button is the last place to 'clear'. TBH, I try not to look at my belly too much at the moment as it looks like crumpled tissue paper mostly (sorry if TMI!). Must be rough on you not having any me time at all - can you even get a soak in the bath while DH keeps on eye on R?

Got to go, off to town. DD1 has grown since I bought her school uniform, and her 5-6 year-old pinafore is getting snug already . I had bought 2, but she's only worn one so I'm off to change the other one for a bigger size. She's only 4.8, FGS.

I suppose I'm lucky coz I have family close by, the ealiest we left DS1 was 5 weeks, but it was with my Sister, who was living with us at the time and it was only to a party next door I was back by 10pm!

Thanks for all your comments about my night out dilema. I am quite looking forward to getting dressed up and seeing my friends again but still cant help but feel guilty. Ive decided ill ring and see how i feel after the meal before deciding if i go onto bowling or not.
DH is eager for me to go. Thinks it will do me good and hes really looking forward to spending quality time with Abigail.
Dont think id be ready to leave her with a sitter yet.

Re- bedtime routine..
Abigail would go to bed around 12 when we went and would sleep through till about 5.30 which was fab. Weve moved her bedtime back to 10pm now after her feed but she now wakes around 2/3 am. Im finding it much harder getting up to feed at that time in the morning.
Suppose as she gets old and sleeps longer between feeds it will get better.
Just feel so tired lately.

EEC- I still have a noticeable line.. I actually think its more noticeable now than it was when i was pregnant!

I'm going out on saturday for a couple of hours (woo hoo!) Poppy goes to sleep about 7:30pm and rarely wakes before midnight (then 3am and 6am) I am still fully bf and don't express, so I will make sure I'm back by 11pm at the earliest. I'll only be able to have a couple of drinks anyway - I know alcohol only gets through in small amounts but I don't want to feed Poppy sozzled (I'll never wake up at 3am for a start!)

Re sleeping - I think you have to decide whether you want baby to go to bed early and have evening peace to relax, or keep baby up late, and have sleep in the morning. As I have 2 other dc sleep in the morning is not an option!

Morning all,

Calvin had his jags to day! Thanks for your lovely comments about my wee horror!

SK - yes that's a great idea - let's map out their lives for them right now Hope you are feeling better today.

I am soooo tired - went to bed at 9.30 but couldn't relaxc c'os of cold, ended up taking 2 x paracetamol and fell asleep at 10.45 to be awoken at 11.45! Then 2am - got C settled at 3 then hid sis was up, got her settled at 4 then awoke at 5am! Then at 6 am for winding then up to get another bottle then more wind and sickness argggg!!! Why is it that it is always between 3 - 6am they are most windy? 3am to 5 am is Lung time in Chinese medicine (when most people die too), then 5am to 7am is large intestine - so that would make sense re the wind.

PIGLEY -enjoy being you and ahving a luahg with the girlies - you'll have a great time and enjoy adult conversation and be very happy to come home - it will do you a power of good.

My brain/finger connection is awful today!!

ISAIDNO - I too must ba an old fart then Gabba gabba hey

JODIE - yep Mn in background Lost another 1lb so that makes 3 so far [amazed emoticon] - the only way I could look like Kate Moss is if I dressed 1 of my legs up - my left leg probably weighs more than her! The more weight you have to lose the more comes off to begin with usually - probably as I have 3 stone minimum to lose that's why it is happening quickly just now. I will join you all on the fatties thread

Take care all
xxxx

me and dh had a huge arguement, tinkin of separating

feel so crappy

mama2leah, these times are sooo hard with a new born. I nearly walked out on DH so many times when DS1 was little (and sometimes tempted now too) He just doesn't understand how demanding it is being a new mummy.

Do you mind asking what it was all about? Maybe we could help?

its something so stupid and silly, i tink its mainly coz im exhausted, tierd, lack of sleep, everything combined... i do everythign for leah except bath her.

i dunno...sorry to rant on the thread...i was iun teas, felt very lonely

hi all. what a group of Carter USM fans we are! showing our age??!!

I have a question about Edward. he hasn't pooed for 2 days, was usually dirty at every nappy change before now. he's ok, a bit grumpy and possibly colicky.

anything I can do??

Also starting to feel shattered all the time. prob due to school starting again. getting me down....

No apology needed Mama2Leah, it's what we're here for...

I was thinking about this kind of thing today, I think your relationship has to sort of go 'on hold' just after you've had a baby. You often just don't have the time/energy/brain capacity to do even basic stuff like ask each other how you are etc. which can be really tough. All I can say is that this stage won't last - there will come a time when she sleeps through the night, you feel sane again, you get to eat your meals together at the same time, etc. Not much comfort at the moment though I imagine...

hi all just checking in seeing how the babies and mummies are doing. Had a good day with B so far, slept through toddlers, got up had feed played under the gym, feed then back to sleep and has just got up, will get older two fed then sit down with her. Other two driving me mad though, so DD2 has been nappyless all afternoon, one pee in the potty, six on the floor and a poo in her pants - oh the joys, I think there should be a potty training boot camp you could send them to and they would come back using the toilet perfectly as if! DD1 been difficult as well.

mama2leah - I agree with everyone else the first year after having a new baby can be difficult, your relationship has to grow and evolve with a whole new person. DP and I often joke we are co carers in a nursery. We never get a break either sometimes the only break I get is a 15 min shower. Still it's not forever that's my mantra keeps me going.

cass66 - is Edward BF, apparently it's common for a BF to go a few days between poos, anything up to a week is normal.

Rumpel - feeling a bit better not much though, I have bad anxiety and it's not good right now. Hope Calvin is OK after his jabs.

Was thinking last night was good then I thought I did wake 5 times - two to feed B which is fine, one when DD1 got up for the toilet and walked into the door and twice with DD2 (although DP did the hard stuff, she had wet through her nappy) but thats 5 times a night no wonder I'm a wreck. No one tells you that toddlers don't often sleep through, theres toilet get ups, bad dreams, duvets falling off, falling out of bed etc

Anyway best be off sort out dinner