July 2008 - Living in the Twilight Zone of never quite enough sleep to be compus mentus

[libralady]

Just thought I'd better set up another thread as the old one is just about to run out.

Thanks pigley, I am trying with apple juice, but may move onto orange juice now as I'm not getting anywhere. Thanks for the tip.

I'm getting an early night... 11.15pm... yes. x

Morning all,

Had such a good day yesterday, got to Thomasland and it was shut so we went to Twycross Zoo instead and had a FAB day, DS1 was golden, he had a lovely time, didn't go in his buggy once, but didn't stray too far from us either, he's getting a big clever boy! He loved all the animals and was telling me all about them when we were going to bed, it was all too cute! And Sam slept the whole way round! Going to update some pics on profile now. (and put some more on Face book too)

Sam has a small umbinical hernia too, at his 6 week check, the doctor told me that if it started to get bigger to tape a 50p piece to it, the HV said the same thing. Not had to do it yet, but worth knowing.

Thanks for your advice on the injection. I'm going to look into it as I don't trust myself to take the pill every day, and to have another baby just now would be a disaster, I'm barely holding together with what I've got now!

As for Nappy changing, we put Sam to bed at 7.30 in a cotton, then change him to a disposable at 11, then he doesn't get changed until the morning, about 7ish (If he wakes in the night I leave him, unless it's a poo)

puddingchef I would arrange a day out ( a whole day, not just a couple of hours) and see how he copes, I just think thay men just don't get it, I can't believe he wants you to go back to work already, silly man, what about him getting a weekend job???? Didn't think so!

After our big blow up in the week I sat DH down on Saturday night and we had a big heart to heart, I told him that it's getting so silly and I feel hurt when he says he's fed up of the kids and hates his life, and I told him that about 90% of the time I feel like leaving, and taking the boys to Spain, so he could live this life he so desires... Anyway I think he got the point as he's been 100000 times better since then! He's really not a bad husband, he does have a lot on at work (doing the job of 3 people at the moment) and he does get easily stressed.. But he does help ALOT with the boys and helping round the house..

Gsh I didn't realise I'd done such a long post, sorry

Jodie - glad DS1 had a lovely birthday

Oh what a night I had last night, stupidly stayed up until gone 11 so by the time I got upstairs, fed and changed B it was gone 11.45pm, DD2 was up 3 times then DD1 came through at 3am to tell us she had wet the bed, DP offered to change it but by the time you tell him where everything is it's quicker doing it yourself, B had already been up twice by this point too. Then B got up at 4 and didn't go back to sleep until gone 6am, not like her maybe it was the jabs she wasn't that whingy lying smiling at me most of the time apart from doing a huge poo and being sick all over my sheets. DD2 then came through at 6.50am!

I'm not going to toddlers today what with DD2 potty training and being knackered I think I will be ahving an easy day well apart from the fact I have offered to babysit my friends two boys for an hour whilst she sees a solicitor abut splitting up with her DH

Morning!

This morning Poppy did the most ginormous poo at 8:30am, just as I was strapping her into the car seat. It was a full clothing change jobbie so we had to really rush to school.

Hope the day improves!

Hi All,

DS, Logan's progress: smiles and chats and gurgles to all and sundry, can roll on to his side and follows you with his eyes. Likes to grab his toy duck/giraffe/rabbit and fight it. Likes to watch his mobile.

Feeling really homesick today. Missing my dog . My dad is coming out next week to pick up my mum so that'll be a lovely surprise for the boys - we're not telling them in advance. DS1 also homesick - told me there are too many people in Bahrain and he wants to go home to England. more .

Jodie - glad you had a good day yesterday dispite Thomasland being closed.
Sounds great that DH has stepped up the mark.

SK- Hope you dont feel too tired today.

Donut-Sorry your feeling homesick. Go jump in the swimming pool... couldnt do that in "sunny" england!

Today i itend to spend organising the house.
We went to Ikea last night and stocked up with lots of boxes ect so i can try and get some order into the house.
Abigail was wide awake all around the shop, staring at the lights. Cue us thinking oh shes wide awake now so should sleep well later.. fat chance.
Abigail got overtired and took hours to get off to sleep and finally went off about midnight.
However she then slept through till about 7.30am so not too bad in the end but now being a pickle with her feeding..ho hum.

Felt very sorry for a lady last night in Ikea. She had loaded up the car abit too much and when she shut the boot it was obviously too much and the rear window shattered! . I will def remember that when im loading the car to the brim!

DH is resigning from his job today as he has just been offered a new one. Will def put the cat amoungst the pidgeons as he is highly relied on and has been there years. Waiting to hear from him everyones reactions!

rough night...

up every 2 hours for a feed.. i have a really sore back any idea what i can do..?

Pigley, good luck with your house organisation. My house is depressing me at the moment, it just won't seem to go tidy, no matter how long I spend doing it. I try to follow FlyLady and do one bit for 15mins, but it makes no difference, there's just too much clutter - the dds can get it out quicker than I can put it away. I am just so slow at housework - it's taken me an hour to hoover downstairs, make some toast for dd2 and hang out some washing. Now Bryony's awake again (dog barked at the postman and woke her, grrr ) so I have to feed her and will have no time to unload the dishwasher and put the breakfast stuff away before softplay. Dh has a work colleague staying tonight so I need to try to get the place tidy, shop for and cook dinner as well as take Bryony for her 8 week check and first set of jabs. It would be easier if I didn't go to softplay, but then dd2 will just watch tv all day, and I will have massive guilt - she refuses to play unless I or dd1 play with her and dd1 is going to a friend's after school today so won't be around. Sorry to moan but I know you will all understand my problems - guilt and housework - in a way that dh just doesn't!

mama2leah - sounds like my night - no idea about the back, other than to try to alternate sides when you carry LO around etc I try to do this but it is hard.

Pigley - congrats to DH

Kitty - what a night - you poor thing

Donutmum - sorry you are feeling homesick - we were in France for 18 months laast year, and I really felt homesick. It's horrid isn't it? Phone a friend from home for a good old chat with a glass of vino in hand!

Jodie - well done for sitting down and having a chat with DH. It's always the best way I guess, but not always easy to do.

I've been coping pretty well so far on no sleep, but last night I nearly lost it after the 5th time - I'm not feeling able to cope today at all. It's all too much. Had to get other DC's to school this am then to secondary school open day for 9 am. Nightmare trying to concentrate on talk and tour while trying to keep R quiet (understandably he was a bit irritable as he had been up mosgt of the night!)Sorry for moan but I so need DH to be able to help a bit and get some rest/time to myself!

The evenings are really tough: trying to help DS with his homework (he has severe dyslexia and needs loads of help with his (far too much) homework; cook supper; carry around grumbling baby; and give even five minutes attention to DD who is so well behaved that she is really getting the short straw at the moment being told I am too busy all the time [guilty muumy emoticon] I know I should be happy, after all R is healthy and putting weight on, and it was our choice to have him after such a big gap but I feel really low...

ponto - you're doing fine - hoovering and putting washing out is more than I've managed today! My bathroom has been begging for a scrub for a fortnight now, the ironong is up to my ears and the carpet has developed a new pattern!
I'm just stuffing my lunch down because Poppy is awake again...

I am a disgusting slob! breakfast still not cleared away and wet washing still in machine from yesterday.... DC's back from school again soon and R crying for food again.... Is it too early to start on the wine?

lunchtime wine would be lovely - but got to do school run in an hour

Well I survived 5 under 5 just about, friend was delayed at the solicitors so had them for over 2 hours so had one on the boob, one in a walker and 3 creating havoc. Boys are so different to girls these two are bottomless pits, my two never ask for food. Am scared to sit down in case I fall asleep.

ponto - I have gotten faster and faster at housework it's not done really probably but to the untrained eye it's enough it's my basics and I can get it done in about an hour. Clean cat litter tray, hoover and mop kitchen floor, kitchen surfaces cleaned, empty bins, hoover living/dining room and sofas (I have 3 cats so is essential), quick going over with a duster, quick whizz round downstairs loo (the one visitors use), dishwasher on, washing machine on, tumble dryer on. Thats my morning whizz. Complete cowboy job.

mum2leah - I get backache all the time I blame cosleeping in a weird position, a bath can help as can a massage although DP not that keen

pigley - I so need an Ikea trip for boxes too I want to sort out DD1's room she has a big toy cupboard and it's never tidy and never closes, why is it kids toys never stack properly? Big useless bits of plastic crap that you can never put away tidy!

EEC - it's a complete juggling act isn't it? and you spend the whole time thinking you should be having some good one on one time with each one.

Right have eaten lunch off to put feet up and feed B.

its from co-sleepin sk....

glad u survived...

same here SK i do a quick job in the morning i actuelly get up way before i need to if sams gonna wake at 5.30 am i get up at 4.30 am have a cup of teas do the washing tidy up i do everything then so when i get home from school run just hoovering to be done
always always sit down for an hour snuggletime with samuel at lunchtime we usually drop of together,im so knackered now though nearly 5pm

SK, your routine would take me about twice as long!

Mum2leah, cosleeping does my back in, have you managed to get Leah into her crib? Last night Bryony slept 8-2.15, when I would usually feed her lying down and go back to sleep, then wake again every couple of hours later to swap sides. Last night though I sat up, fed her from both sides, burped her and put her back in her crib and she slept from 3-6.30, so I got 2 proper periods of sleep without her in bed and I felt much better this morning,

Had Bryony weighed today - 11 lb 12 oz at 8 weeks, I was surprised she hadn't gained more as she was 10 lb 8 oz at birth, but she's on the 75th centile now so not exactly wastng away! Her sisters did the same, gradually dropped through the centiles then started growing on the 50th instead of the 98th where they were born. Dh and I are both average height so I guess Bryony's just finding her own level now she's not getting chocolate infusions through the placenta!

she been in her crib for over a week, i still feed her lying down...my back still aching....

ponto - you got to do it quickly and not that efficently but enough so it's looks done thats the key I shudder if anyone looked at the corners or under the sofa

DS - 4.30am is the middle of the night no wonder your shattered

HI ALL,

SK - it is truly truly awful when you have a night like that = feeling like you have a perpetual hangover You canot wait for the day to be over just so you can go to bed

C slept pretty well last night - but he did cry continuously yesterday morning and only sleep for about 20 mins in the day. Last night was the first time he went for 4 hours through without a feed [amazed emoticon] and I didn't have to change him in the night - usually he is soaked through his vest/grow and sleepbag by 3amish so it is a full change. Was up for DD as well though - Bah!!

Consequently I felt stupid this morning as I got a semi-decent sleep

DD had a nannyroonie at dance class today - she went hysterical when we went in and was shouting 'No, no - door door' pointing to the outside door and throwing the badge they are given back at me? Weird - she is NEVER ever like that and I made sure she had her afternoon kip - I ended up having to bring her home as she was adamant she wasn't staying. I hope she is ok next week - maybe she is abit young yet or just having an off day?

M2L - try massaging your feet when you can using your thumb to work up the length of the inner edge of the foot - the neck of the big toe=your neck, the curve of the inner heel = lower back, the area under the wee toes on the outside edge of the foot and below the wee toe = the shoulders. You can also massage your thumb - should help ease your back. Also try standing with feet hip width apart and raising arms above head with hands in prayer pose and stretch as high as you can whilst breathing in, lower arms, relax and breathe out - repeat several times. If your inner shoulders are sore hold onto the door frame with 1 hand, arm syretched out and allow yourself to fall forwards (not down) you should feel the stretch in the inner shoulder girdle - repeat on other side.

EEC - it is really hard trying to be 'supermum' give yourself a break - you are only human and can only do the best you can [hugs]

I am 'off' the wine - too calorific and sticking to a couple of G+Ts at the weekend.

Well nite all.
xxx

Evening all...

SK I bet you are shattered, I'm dreading it when Sam starts getting mobile, 2 over active boys! I'll be as skinny as a rake (I hope)

M2L I reckon a massage sounds in order! All those moements that WW said will really help, depends on where your back is hurting. if it;s the lowwr back, Don't over do it too much as our pelvic bones are still soft.

For all of you who aren't BF anymore, how long did it take to get your periods back? I stopped at 8 weeks, Sam now 10+5 and no sign yet.....

weeble/rumpel - yes hangover is it or like walking through a fog isn't it? See with DD1 I could sleep all day with her (not that I had to she was a great sleeper), DD2 DD1 still had a 2 hour afternoon nap so if I timed it right we could all go to bed now none of them sleep so it's constant. lol @ nannyroonie haven't heard that for a long while am sure your DD will be fine.

I am also worried about DD1 she's becoming so naughty, I have to admit that last week I smacked her for the first time ever. For a few weeks now if she doesn't like me saying no or telling her off she's been coming up and hitting and kicking me actually going out her way to come over and kick me I've tried naughty corners/taking toys/treats off her etc and nothing works so last week I smacked her felt terrible we have a no tolerance on hitting in our house no one hits anyone. I don't know of it's the new baby affecting her of just her age but it's so sad she's always been such a sweet natured lovely little girl.

B has got into a little routine of sleeping for 5 hours straight in the mornings I have to go and wake her to get her ready to go to nursery and she falls back asleep and thats her, great for getting housework done but even better if I could shift her day forward so she had her main chunk of sleep in the night. Am still going with the flow though, one major hurdle at a time.

potty training update day 4 - more pees in the potty than the floor today and major breakthrough a poo in the potty typical DD2 shouts from upstairs "Mummy I have done a pee pee it's OK I have poured it down the toilet and flushed away" law unto herself that one.

Right enough waffling am off to bed in a bit too.

Just went on facebook and it's new talk about confusing me anyway Jodie your boys are very handsome

Hello all, have had an unusually good day... the Mumsnet coffee meet this morning went well, then P and I met a pregnant friend for lunch and she paid as thanks for me lending her yet more pg clothes, then we went into town and I got some bargainous jeans from next clearance that were £50 reduced to £4 - yes, £4, I couldn't believe it either (need mid-weight loss clothes as I only have 1 pair of trousers that I can fit into!) and then to a leaving do for my friend who is off to live in new york! All of which has made me feel human and social again and it was just the emotional re-charge that I needed. However I do feel slightly guilty for therefore not spending much time with DS today...!

Off for a chiropractic appointment tomorrow, I have had a really sore neck recently which I think is from feeding lying down so hopefully she can fix that.

SK i know 4.30 sounds a silly hour to get up but i have to shower my 8 yr old and do his medication then cream him from neck to feet takes me an hour,he has bad mobility and now samuel is tube fed i have to get is tubes ready and set the machine up as i can pump machine feed him whilst watching him thats how i whizz round the house ;) like a maniac

then other boys get up at 7am and the usual school day begins the routine for them,2 go to 2 different schools,then home for samuels machine feed again ds4 cant go to school hes to ill right now so he has home tutor so i cant tidy up when hes having lessons
when i type this we sound like a crazy household
hence why me and baby have a snuggle and i feed him lunchtime in my arms when we try to have a nap the tutor is in next roomm she is great
how old is your DD1 SK,dont worry hun they all go through emotional changes jut got to figure out what the problem is and we are only human not pre programmed so we act irrationaly at times
but like you we operate a zero tolerance and def no smacking household or name calling or fighting and i can be totally honest i dont have many probs here but DS5 was a bit stressed last week has a minor tantrum well he stamped up the stairs in a mood i made him come re walk up them quietly then come down and have a chat ours was a teacher prob ..............the guy was telling him he was lazy well in truth hes very shy and not a lot of confidence it was sorted though
hope everyone else is ok and have a good days guys
just going to get the other boys breakfast ready its like a hotel here
going to market today sam in his sling as i have to push the wheelchair
its a carboot to so il prob come home with loads of junk i dont actually need but want at the time

ponto re hoovering i have a roomba for upstairs so all i have to do is make beds put a couple toys away leave roomba on makes my life a lot easier