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July 2008 - Living in the Twilight Zone of never quite enough sleep to be compus mentus

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libralady · 06/09/2008 07:08

Just thought I'd better set up another thread as the old one is just about to run out.

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EEC · 17/09/2008 09:21

Disneystar I am in complete awe of you. You are truly amazing. How do you stay so calm?

purplejennyrose · 17/09/2008 09:52

disney you are truly amazing - you are supermum.You should write a book...
Best wishes to little Sam, and your other poorly ds too.

Minkus · 17/09/2008 09:59

Just a really quick one, thanks everyone who gave me advice here and on my other thread about the problems I've had settling Louis because of his boob comfort / too much milk issue- I've tried a few of the suggestions and we've had two much much better nights (only waking for feeds and going back into his moses basket much easier) so thanks A LOT! He started to find his thumb a bit better which has helped too I think, he can settle himself a bit.

Only a flying visit as loadsa housework to do so not read posts- hope everyone is well, rested and lo's healthy and happy.

ponto · 17/09/2008 10:23

Oh, I would love a roomba disney, but there's always so much stuff on the floor that the kids would lose their toys! Does it work on hard floors too?

Had a relatively good night last night as Bryony only up once, but she needed 2 nappy changes and a complete change of clothes in the hour she was awake! Anyway, managed to get her back in her crib afterwards so that's 2 nights in a row without co-sleeping.

mama2leah · 17/09/2008 10:23

heh supermum! well doen disney

ahhh another bad night, she keeps tuckin her fists, tryin to chew her toys...

surely she cnt b teething this early...cud she?

CilC · 17/09/2008 10:35

Another quick message...I am off to doctors. Just had to confess to someone...
My daughter started school today...she didn't cry, but I did! Soooo embarassed, no other parents did this. I am going to blame the hormones with a new born, but secretly I think I would have cried anyway! I am still teary...
Have a good day everyone and sorry I have not had a chance to respond to all posts, literally have not had a free second!

purplejennyrose · 17/09/2008 11:03

ok poo question for anyone who's around!!
after ages of doing green poo, florence had gone back to nice mustard ones until...
Last Thurs, my dodgy back flared up again and I was in a lot of pain. On Fri morning I took a dose of codeine - which knocked me out and made me feel sick and dizzy all day (I had it on prescription BTW, have had it before!!)

Anyway, Flo didn't poo from Thurs lunchtime till Sat morning - lots of fussing, crying etc then, and when I unzipped her sleeping bag there was a lake of poo - around her nappy, which had become rather irrelevant, there was a puddle a few mm deep! And a sort of orange-brown colour, and smelt a bit, well, chemical - like (I think normal mustard poo smells quite nice!)

So, then nothing more till a few squirty bits in her nappy Sun. another lake Mon morning after more fussing, and then a couple of smaller ones yesterday - and she's just produced another lake -it also seems quite mucousy i.e. when I take the nappy off there a strings from bottom to nappy (sorry if way TMI!). Still same orange - brown colour and slight chemical smell.

So: what d'you reckon? Is it the codeine?? A quick search reveals that codeine is one of the few drugs not recommended while bf, and it certainly messes me up.

Does it sound like a tummy bug? My tummy has been a bit iffy yesterday, and dd1 had the poo nappy from hell yesterday morning...
Come to think of it, F has been more sicky than usual the last couple of days..

Probably answering my own question here, just wondered if anyone had similar poo experience to share!!! Thanks!

purplejennyrose · 17/09/2008 11:06

oh forgot to say her fontanelle seemed a wee bit sunk, but she is def not dehydrated and fine otherwise in herself. Feeding fine.

EEC · 17/09/2008 11:52

Purplejennyrose - sounds like probably tummybug. We do often have poo lakes here (I like the term!) In fact had one today while in the sling at mothercare - I had to buy a change of clothes for him and also remove my jumper and we got horribly messy, but at least there was a changing area - a bit worried about taking him out now! We don't have the other 'symptoms' though. I would speak to HV if I were you.

Minkus - Really pleased things are going better for you - Please tell me what you tried and what you think was succesful - I am going spare here - up again every 1 - 2 hours last night and I am not coping well. Each night worse than the last - I even tried letting him cry on and off for abou 40 mins (bad guilty mother!) but he did not settle.

disneystar · 17/09/2008 13:11

cilc you are not alone with the school thing my DS6 started school last week and loves it i had to remain very upbeat and positive so my vibes didnt rub of on him,well it worked but alas like you i had a cry like oh my baby i dont want you to go now
when we have had our moments especially shopping like omg i cant wait for you to go to school but i truly love having my children home i do miss them at school

ponto yes they do work on hard floors to

M2L my DS 2 had a tooth by 9 weeks
my DS3 had his tooth by 12 weeks so i guess its possible even my samuel has got red cheeks and is a chewer

and guys i am not a supermum i just do what has to be done
i always wanted a big family but never imagined when me and dh met we carried this faulty gene we never knew neither did they
my son in a wheelchair can walk but with difficulty, he has 80% psoriasis over his body and his head is full of benign tumours hes ben like it since feb this year
he bleeds terribly whenever he moves and is now on a strong anti cancer drug i have to do his routine he gets embarrased now especially at toilet issues,hence why he is covered in tubi grip from neck to toe and the chair is to stop bleeding as hes already had a double heart bypass and we cant cross contaminate.
we thought his condition was a fluke and went on to have charlie who has downs
next baby was fie we had all the tests got al clear so we went ahead
samuels tests were all clear till 24 to 26 weeks i was offered a termination then but i couldnt i was already a full time carer i knew id love samuel and could do it
but boy is my life hard
so im not clever or superhuman
i just love my DC with my life well they are my life and they fill my life with joy so im the lucky one

EEC what the matter with your LO then is this a sleeping issue you sound so tired hun,is there anything we can do to help you?

JODIEhadababy · 17/09/2008 13:36

Disney You ARE Supermum... My (childless) friend is always calling me supermum as my 2 boys are super chilled and DS1 is such a character, he's very fuuny and such a show off, and she says it's all my (and DH's) doing,, Which is true, but, boy there is nothing super about it, where as you, I know people just cope with what life throws at them, but you do it sooo well, you are truely AMAZING.

SK Thanks for the comment, I think my two boys are handsome too!!! To return the compliment, your girls are beautiful!

Right better be off, got to find a new sink and a plumber, DH put something back on the window sill of the bathroom this morning and knocked off a glass candle, which has smashed the sink

sweetkitty · 17/09/2008 13:48

disney - what a lovely post, each one truly is a blessing and I also believe that special people get special children in that they are only given to people who truly deserve them and will take care of them, hope that doesn't sound too condesending, sorry

purplejenny - sounds like a tummy bug to I would leave her 3 or so days and if the poos don't get back to normal go see the GP. I have been prescribed codeine when BFing although I only take one at a time, two and I'm spaced out.

CliC - I feel the tears welling up when I think of DD1 starting school and it's still a year away. I'm such a wuss.

M2L - could be teething although I think babies are programmed to chew anything that comes near their mouths. B won't take a dummy but likes a suck and a chew on a little pink bear. My other 2 got their first tooth 2 days after 6 month birthday and 5 days before (I remember all these things somehow) but I reckon the teeth move up through the gums and it can hurt them a while before the teeth appear.

minniemummy - glad you had a nice time yesterday

Much better night last night, fed B at 10.30pm and that was her until 4.20am this morning, fed and then slept until 7am, had a feed came downstairs and then slept until 12 through two nursery runs bless her. DP gets up at 6 for work so when I woke at 7 I was in his side and B was length ways in mine (bedside cot empty )

Just had poo city, first DD2 in her pants (think runny and loads pants in bin), then picked up B and she had exploded too, EEC I have done that before bought an outfit in Mothercare due to poo explosions.

Right best be off going to hoover upstairs, love the idea of a Roomba but would it work on cat hairs and corners.

disneystar · 17/09/2008 16:07

roomba on cat hairs and corners yep it works i got 5 bedrooms 2 bathrooms and a long landing upstairs i just tidy and leave when i come home its done
thanks guys for the lovely comments
i wish my 17 year old thought like that man is he a pain in the a* right now,nearly 17 knows everythng thinks im his bank tries to sub of me every week and im his private taxi and he actually stamped his foot at me yesterday i burst out laughing it was so funny hes 16 6ft 4 or 5 and weighs 23 stone im 4ft 11 and i rule my roost here all i said to him was
son you gotta deal with life and you cant run to me every 5 mins you got to respect my house rules as we all have to live in peace he wasnt happy with this and stamped his foot i laughed and said boy its my way or the highway......hes stressed as his moped is in the garage and he has to walk half hour to work.....awwwww poor baby

disneystar · 17/09/2008 16:09

also just made him walk to phonebox he thinks bt is free now
ive already gave him £200 this month alone hence the hissy fit

pigleychez · 17/09/2008 16:27

Disney- I second everything already said! Hats off to you!
Well done for standing up to your son too!-- typical stroppy teenager that thinks the world owes them a favour!

I have a roomba too - Brilliant invention!

Minkus- Glad your having better nights

Clic- Oh bless you..Ill be crying too when its my turn.

Jenny- maybe it did affect her tummy abit. If it doesnt improve in a few days go to the drs.

EEC- Poor you with the accident in Mothercare.. Yuk!

Met up with a lady today that i met through Netmums. This was our second meet up and we seem to be getting on really well.
Also been chatting online to another local lady who I might be meeting tomorow.
Pleased that im getting the courage to meet these new people.. Dh even said last night that he was proud of me
Im finally going to go to the NCT group tomorow too!

mcchesers · 18/09/2008 07:15

Disney - I can just about hear your voice. You sound like a proper southern mama. That's the kind I'd like to be. Still keep my hands on hips attitude! I wouldn't take near the amount of crap I gave my mom from my son.

Also..my baby slept from 10-6 last night. yay!

I needed that after yesterday it was not the best. I went to toddlers yesterday and felt like an idiot with A being the only baby there. Turns out the baby people were in the cafe and totally snubbed me. It was that awful first day of school feeling. Then it hit me that I won't be around when my wee boy is a toddler. Then this very well meaning mum came up and asked about A and how I was getting on. I told her my mom was in the US and she went on about how you really need your mammy and how they help so much.blah blah. So as any good girl does..I smiled the biggest smile and say "it's been so nice chatting with you" and made my exit home in a flood of tears. I'm tempted to go back today and just persevere or maybe I should find another group eh?

Thanks for listening to me ladies..I always appreciate having this space to vent.

isaidno · 18/09/2008 08:01

mcchesers - the first baby group I went to left me in tears - I felt everyone else was coping much better than me. I did persevere and made some friends and found we were all worrying about the same things!
Some groups I have been to once and never again; you have to find one you like!

Libra1975 · 18/09/2008 08:09

Minkus - re: the wind, not sure if this relates to situation but I found these 2 articles on KellyMom. Thought they might help you:
www.kellymom.com/babyconcerns/gassybaby.html#gascauses
www.kellymom.com/babyconcerns/food-sensitivity.html

All - Thanks for all your nappy advice

DS - you very much sound like you are in charge at home that's a bit about your sons teacher telling him he is lazy if that is not the case.

DM - *hugs for your homesickness, children are very adaptable I am sure in a few weeks he will be very cross when you suggest leaving the pool and his new friends to come back to cold old England!

Pigley - yay you for getting out and meeting new people, it's so difficult even if you are not shy, I have met some really nice people thru NCT and I make sure that I have one thing to do a day in the diary but it feels weird to be friends with people I've never been drunk with and it still feels lonely sometimes.

mchesers - 10-6!!! would you like to swap babies? about those clique mummies, in fact I am sitting here really cross on your behalf (not that it helps you!) people can be so rude with no reason. Personally I would find a new group, not sure about where you are but there are 100s where I live so I sure there must be 1 or 2 with nice people!
Why won't you be around when your baby is a toddler? Are you going back to work?

I am very much a superficial housekeeper, as long as downstairs looks moderatly presentable the rest of the house
can go to rack and ruin! MN-time definitely comes before cleaning the bathroom in my list of priorities.
I am slightly confused with Alex, it took us 90minutes to settle him last night as he was screaming in pain and the last few nights he has woken up screaming and can be only settled on the boob even tho I know it's not hunger it's pain. I am starting to wonder if he has a food sensitivity and that what I have just regarded as baby possetting is actaully him reacting to something (he is very sick not just a few dribbles) however part of me wonders if I just don't have PFB syndrome.
I am going to cut out cow diary and see what happens (apart from me going insane not being able to have my morning cuppa )

disneystar · 18/09/2008 08:14

mchesers thats exactly how i sound and how i am hands on hips you got me down as i am i had to laugh when you typed that as you can imagine how i said it

and i think thats a bad experience you had with the baby group i have been to one like that before and i found that some moms are just clicky kinda like at school where they have there own little group and dont let no one in till youve passed a test
i think if you persevere they will loosen up and talk to you just say hi ask how there babies are........no one can resist if you say aww what a lovely baby how old is he/she its natural to want to speak about your child,........just make the first move honey and youl be fine these groups were created for all moms to make friends and if your there the next new one that comes along she will have one new freind.....YOU

JODIEhadababy · 18/09/2008 10:58

AHHHH Just been for a routine appt at the dentist and I have decay in both my top back teeth, one's 'just' a filling but the other one looks like an extraction!!!! He said it's coz I've had 2 babies close together and they've robbed my of my calcium needed for my teeth, and my teeth didn't have time to regain strength after having DS1 before I fell preggers again!! At least I'm on that Maternity Exeption thing....

How are we all, it's very quiet here the last couple of days, is it sunny????

Purplejenny How's F today? any better?

M2L DS1 started teething at 9 weeks and cut his first tooth at 12 weeks and the second one at 13 weeks.. The signs are, red cheeks, maybe red gums, sore bottom, runny poos, chewing on everything. Also it's usually the bottom front ones that come first, just so you know what to look for.

pigley how did it go at DH's work?

mchesers I went to a couple of those kinda groups, and I hated it. I still found something to do everyday tho, just ignored the 'bitches' I caught up with one of the girls from the BF class I used to go to and she told me that the 3 girls that I couldn't get on with are nicknamed the 3 witches! So it wasn't just me!

Gotta go Sam crying, hope everyone else is OK?

JODIEhadababy · 18/09/2008 11:02

Oh yeah and Sam slept from 11-630 last night!!! YEAH

minipinkscottish · 18/09/2008 11:30

Just taking a break from cleaning to chill out. Kitchen starts to be done on Friday with the laying of the concrete base for my aga rayburn. The company then don't return till Monday to put in all the pipes and new tanks in attic. All this before new kitchen and decorating. Think I'll be in a guddle for weeks HELP!!!
I had already emptied cupboards but today have cleared out utility room and moved kettle, microwave etc in there so we can have somewhere that is reasonably clean to prepare simple snacks. Trying to persuade ds4 that we give tumble tots a miss this afternoon and as compensation I will take ds4 and dd1 to play barn after school I am on a mission and I have to get all this done before tonight so that I can clear of out of the way tomorrow....shopping for new kitchen stuff...well it helps with the stress!!

Abbie had second jags yesterday and was fine till tea time when she had a great big cry for about an hour....never heard her like this before So I gave her calpol and a bath and she was in bed by 9pm and that was her till 6am[snile] She was 12lb 3oz yesterday - putting on 1lb in a week.

Sorry for long post....going to get back to it now!!

disney - also in awe of your patience and strength - a trully great mum!!

mcchesers · 18/09/2008 12:18

Disney - If you make biscuits from scratch as well as all the rest of it..then I'm comin' over.

So glad to hear from everyone..thanks for the support. I'll keep going out. I borrowed an Ergo carrier from a friend of mine and it's fabulous. There is talk of going to Edinburgh zoo this weekend which would be very cool. Any ideas what the baby should be wearing this time of year? How many layers, etc?

So it seems my wee man isn't as hungry as he used to be..and boy do my boobs ache. Do we just express the extra stuff until the engorgement dies down?

Minipink - amazing. I am in awe of all you women who get so much done!

mama2leah · 18/09/2008 12:26

rough night leah is fartin alot... has been since birth,,,at night shw wakes up to fart, and hard to get down...i dunno wat to do..to get a decdent sleep

delay bedtime? tried that lastnight and took 90mins to settle...

she takin mini naps in the day...
also she seems to be drinkin less, andmy boobs hurtin..if express it out, wont they jus produce morE?

JODIEhadababy · 18/09/2008 12:49

Just a thought Kaz Where are you? Hope you are OK?

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