Sept 08 - newborns, milk, nappies and all the rest ....

[Sassafrass]

Hope noone minds me starting our post natal thread now that the babies are arriving so quickly.

Arrivals!
28-May - Johnworf ? Katherine, 1lb 8oz
30-June ? KashaSarrasin ? Felix, 1.39kg
26-July - Jenbot - DD, 3lb 6oz
11-Aug - Crabby - Lilah 2.34kg
13-Aug - Sassafrass - Katie Rose, 7lb 2oz
20-Aug - Sunshinemummy - Effy Marilyn, 6lb 3oz
22-Aug - Talia1 - Anna, 6lb 2oz
26-Aug - Jenpet - Samuel, 3.166 kilos (about 6lb10oz?)
28-Aug - Potxola - Lorea, 7lb 6oz
31-Aug - Digitalgirl - Alfredo, 7lbs
1-Sept - Debithescot - Andrew, 8lb 10oz

well done on weight

i have no family nearby either so understand difficulties

don't sweat over state of house

this too shall pass

nak - nursing at keyboard

I'm nakking too, she's been sleeping for quite a while, but is now feeding, so i plan to go to bed as soon as she settles and hopefully get a few hours sleep.

Close to not letting p back at all, so might as well get used to managing on my own anyway. 1 reason I'm so annoyed is he probably won't be getting up in the morning to take dd1 to pre school and she gets more upset when I take her, and last time I wanted to cry too, so not looking forward to that.

Glad I'm not alone in thinking advice from mw barmy, it's a miracle if anyone bf with the advice given.

When I was in hospital I hear someone almost bullied into giving ff - it was about 5/6am, they were teling her too long had passed without feeding, she must give a bottle, that people say wait, but that would just lead to jaundice and other problems - then added, but of course it is your decision, are you happy with that. They didn't offer any other advice / support to help her to what she wanted to do

I'm nakking too, she's been sleeping for quite a while, but is now feeding, so i plan to go to bed as soon as she settles and hopefully get a few hours sleep.

Close to not letting p back at all, so might as well get used to managing on my own anyway. 1 reason I'm so annoyed is he probably won't be getting up in the morning to take dd1 to pre school and she gets more upset when I take her, and last time I wanted to cry too, so not looking forward to that.

Glad I'm not alone in thinking advice from mw barmy, it's a miracle if anyone bf with the advice given.

When I was in hospital I hear someone almost bullied into giving ff - it was about 5/6am, they were teling her too long had passed without feeding, she must give a bottle, that people say wait, but that would just lead to jaundice and other problems - then added, but of course it is your decision, are you happy with that. They didn't offer any other advice / support to help her to what she wanted to do

We must be nearly all given birth now (that sentence makes no sense but never mind), this thread is moving faster than the antenatal one.

All my maternity clothes are on ebay now or in a bag waiting to go to charity shop so thats it, no more babies for me.

Was on a trampoline today, I thought all my 'bits' were all healed up as everything feels pretty much normal (apart from a bit of chaffing from annoying pantyliners) but when I jumped on the trampoline I swear i could feel my womb jumping up and down. thought I might fall apart so stopped jumping and just let ds1 bounce all over me instead.

Andrew's sleeping was the same as normal last night and he's had the same feeds today as yesterday so I obviously didn't starve him. He's on 6 feeds a day now which all seem like big feeds. I'm assuming that if he pees and poos and is happy that that is fine for a month old baby. I still can't believe he's put himself into such a good (and predictable) routine but I'm not complaining.

jearund please don't apologise for getting things off your chest and i wasn't at all put out by your comments about ff. If i was bf, i too would feel the same as you about giving ff!
I hope things work out. Foxy - thanks for the offer to discuss my problems off board. Things may get easier next week as DP is back to work. Bizarrely, while we'll miss him loads, it will mean the 2 of us can spend some time alone, bonding and in bed all day. i will try to email you at the weekend and perhaps you can share some of your wisdom.

Can I just say a huge thanks to everyone who has posted lovely messages of support. I do feel like a failure (I even put her nappy on wrong last night and we had explosive poos!). DP is so supportive but it really helps to offload here and listen to other mamas worries and know we are all in the same boat. I love Charlotte so much it amazes me.

mustsleep
so yesterday i was in the shower and completely forgot to decide how i was going to wear my hair after the shower...curly or straight. i have to use different products either way so a decision always must be made. anyway got out and some how managed to put in both sets of products and didn't finish styling...(all the while not realizing what i'd done...lack of sleep and all that)
fast forward to this morning and my utter horror when i look in the mirror while brushing my teeth to find my hair gobbed up with all this crap in my hair and my hair is matted to my scalp because i never managed to use the hair dryer and both sets of products are heat activated.

i've taken 4 showers today in attempts to get this gunk out of my hair. sadly, no joy. i look like someone whose stuck an entire tub of petroleum jelly in my hair.

so now i think i'm going to look into some sort of permanent hair straightening solution for the next few months because i can't risk another one of these accidents...and it would make getting out of the house a lot easier. anyone have any experience on the matter?

I love showers - DP takes teddy and I can't even hear if he's grumbling over the noise of the water!

had another crap night last night - 4 hours sleep in total in one hour blocks, but find myself a million times more positive following everyone's reassurance. thank you!!!

teddy still not interested in dummy, but in seventh heaven when finger sucking. looks like i'm going to have to get over being grossed out by it! even managed to settle him in cot with it. luckily he will already merrily chew on his own hand if it happens to land in his mouth, so he might find his thumb one day - another habit i hate, but who cares!?

in other news, i am doubly full of admiration for those of you with more than one child, ongoing spd probs, crap partners etc. puts it in perspective a bit!

hopefully which dummies are you using?

we have tried will with the 0-3month mam ones but he hates them (prob cos even though they are from newborn they are huge)

we have bought the tommy tippee closer to nature ones that are shaped like the inside of a baby'smouth or something and he willtake those

dd was also like this and would only have the Nuk dummies which are shaped ike the tommy tippee ones but i an't get hold of any round here at all!!

eandz not sure about permenant straightening - have you tried washing your hairin washing up liquid to get rid of the vasoline effect?

Ive found the best dummies are the tommy tippee newborn with the cherry teats.

Fraser was weighed today and he has put on 1lb 1oz this week he is not going to stay little for long

he sleeps really well at night he settles straight back into his moses basket after a feed he wakes every 4 hours at night so i dont feel to tired.

The only problem i have is the breastfeeding i just cant give up trying, he is mostly bottle fed but i try and latch him on before each feed somtimes he will sometimes he wont so i am expressing and taking fenugreek in the hope my milk does not dry up, i have a nursery nurse coming to my house to help me bf soon i really hope we get there he is 4 weeks now i hope its not to late.

ive just remembered i have name changed i will change it back in a min i dont want to write this all again. im lollyheart.

lolly that's loads i bet he's going to be one of those chubby babies that you just want to squeeze all the time lol
ds was like this and waskust so chubby and cute ...now he is so skinny you can practically count his ribs but he still eats loads and loads i would kill for his metabolism!! [GRIN]

lolly you need long term 1 to 1 support from a qualified bfc if fraser will go back to the breast. it is still do-able but will take dedication and skilled knowledge from a support person. have you discussed it with someone from one of the helplines?

i am unsure what training a 'nursery nurse' will have, sorry. so many terms are used and the tern 'bfc' is also commonly misused which is why i am wary of who will be supporting you.

I was going to post something, but have just realised that I am so tired and my brain has ceased to function. Somehow I managed to get DS and DD out the house by 10am to get to gym tots this morning, I think it's caught up with me now. zzzzzzzz.

I think we all need to promise not to mess around with out hair for a while. Poor mustsleep and eandz! Step away from the hair products!

I guess I should be glad my hair is thin and fine and dries in about half an hour. It has no style, but doesn't need any work. It'll be the first time I've been glad of it though.

DD's waking up and she doesn't know what to do with herself! Dh just tries to get her back to sleep any time she's awake - but I think if she's awake a bit in the day, she might sleep better at night.

I think I may end up with a dummy as well - I can't believe I'm contemplating it as my MIL will just be 'I told you so...'. Maebh is getting to be SUCH a suckler though

This is not fair - Maebh's been asleep for 4 hours, she doesn't do that at night. I don't know whether to wake her up. I guess I'm lucky I get the rest. I just know she'll wake when I'm in the middle of making tea and DD has a friend round.

ninja - DD's been sleeping all day! she's had a bit of a funny day, think a bit coliky son don't wanna wake her up, but I wish she did that at night.....

leonie I think provided you're not a heavy sleeper then having your baby sleeping on your chest for a bit can't do any harm. It's how I sleep during the day with DS. He sleeps so much better when he's close to me.

So after a colicky start to the night, DS slept from 1:30 to 5:45 last night. Then we had to get up early for his hearing test, which totally threw our usual morning feeding routine out the window. Which possible has led to him being a grizzly baby ever since lunch.

All my NCT friends have either given up BF or are mix feeding. I was the only one breast-feeding at lunch today. Now feeling like a hippy mum.

They've also managed to get their babies sleeping either in their cots in their own room or down by 8pm in their moses basket. i feel sooo far away from ever getting my evenings back. 6-9pm is spent cluster feeding. Then I get ready for bed, then more cluster feeding from about 10pm to he falls asleep next to me. This could be half an hour or three hours.

Oh and he has an umbilial hernia . It makes a gassy squelchy noise when I press it.

digital don't worry too about the umbilical hernia. DS had one and it went at about 4 months if I remember rightly. He has a perfectly cute normal belly button now.

leonie my LO (now 7 weeks old as born 5 weeks early) was a feed all nighter too. I struggled and BF like crazy, she would sleep well until put back into her cot and then wake up immediatly, rooting around.

I then started to read around, and realised that the movement she was making, moving her head from side to side and doing the "woodpecker movement" where she would seem to peck at my chest was just a sign of extreme overtiredness. I have since instigated a routine with her (remebering she is only 2 weeks corrected) which has I have to confess made her a contented little baby. She is settled, sleeping well, feeding 3- 4 hourly and letting me get some sleep without falling asleep on my chest - too often . Also, swaddling her suprisingly tightly has meant that she no longer wakes herself up with flailing arms.

I was just misreading some of her sounds and actions as rooting when in fact they were "I'm so tired I don't know what to do with myself mummy" actions. Not sure if this may be true with your LO too - good luck