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lilyloo · 18/08/2008 22:23

hope everyone finds it

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Lilyloo · 02/09/2008 19:33

It doesn't seem to be bothering her more the cough/cold she has and i know she will feel worse if i get her up and take her out in cold etc. But just wondering what the infection could do if left till first thing tom ...
Like you say i could ring out of hours doc if needs be

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justkeepswimming · 02/09/2008 19:39

Lily - i would leave it as she is asleep - when/if she wakes in the night check it if you can, if the same and she goes back to sleep leave it, if worse or she won't settle maybe ring then? hard isn't it? have you got any tea tree oil/cream you could put on while she's asleep? might help.

typed the rest of this an hour ago!

madmouse - i know he's fine really, just getting that pre-exam feeling
he started clapping and banging toys together today [proud mummy]

he's constipated tho
have given lots of fruit juice for tea so hope that gets things moving....

glad you are feeling better, hope the counselling helps. don't underestimate your experience in terms of trauma/shock when nathan ended up in nicu.

gingeme - we went with the let him learn to fall properly plan too with ds1 and he's such a brave boy now when he bumps himself. it's got to be a big deal if he cries. (makes me a bit impatient with other LOs if they wail when they've just had a little bump tho )

simpson - best of luck...

watching monsters inc with ds1 for the first time - trying to get a positive association with monsters as he's recently got it into his head to be scared of them. not sure when we'll get to bed tho!

right, hopefully everyone having a positive day

Lilyloo · 02/09/2008 19:45

Never thought of teatree JKS i have been putting germolene on it to keep it clean.
Am going to leave it as she is fast asleep so it obv not too uncomfortable. As dp said even if they give ab's or cream it won't take affect for 24 hours anyway.
Think she would feel much worse if i got her out of bed and she was being prodded and poked.
Thanks ladies will phone gp first thing and get emergency apt (hopefully)

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madmouse · 02/09/2008 21:32

Lily glad you made a decision. some of the comments on the other threads are worse than NHS direct (which i now refuse to call, like another poster said, they always send you to be seen.)

You are not a new mummy, go with your instinct.

Had Nathan seen by doc who also thinks lump is a lypoma (Ie a fat deposit) not strange seeing that he has suddenly started to put on weight. He has referred him to a paed surgeon for an opinion.

Then he gave me a heart attack when he started talking about Nathan's noise breathing. Nathan has always made cute excited sounds in his throat when he sees something he wants and sleeps extremely noisily. He asked if Nathan snored. Yes he does sometimes. Then he mentioned Nathan having apnoeas and I hit the roof as apnoeas was how we discovered the fits. No no nothing to do with fits, just his breathing. Turns out he thinks Nathan has a 'floppy larynx', not uncommon in babies that have been ventilated. He will send us to the ent, but apparently nothing needs doing. Feeling better now as on a certain level the noise he makes at night has always bothered me slightly and it looks like it is innocent.

All this worrying makes me so tired. I just want to lie down and curl up. But Nathan has only just gone down after another 8.30pm poo. He has eaten almost a whole large hipp jar of apple desert, some home cooked casserole, 2/3 weetabix with milk and half a yogurt today so it has to go somewhere.

Lily I hope that you have a peaceful night.

JKS well done for clapping and banging. Nathan bangs everything but only with his good hand, so I guess clapping is a way off.

My boy only poos every three days normally so I swear by weetabix and apple and prune puree to keep him moving!

Hope Simpson got there allright.

Where is everyone else.

LuckySalem · 02/09/2008 22:24

MM - I never knew about larynx's. I dont know if DD was ventilated (quite possibly could have been as her heart rate slowed so much during labour and she didn't cry straight away) but she snores and makes funny noises in her throat like she's kinda talking to no-one. I don't know if its something I should look into now. - I'm over-reacting aren't I? Someone tell me I'm overreacting.

Gingeme · 02/09/2008 22:26

Evening ladies.
Took the boys to my friends house today who I havn't seen all holiday. She has a border colli who lo has never met. Oh the squeals lo was doing when he saw the dog oh it was sooooo sweet. The dog just sat and let him touch him,she has two little girls, and lo was delighted.
He had a boiled potatoe and a fish finger for tea. Loved it and some strawberry Angel Delight as a treat. A whole bottle before bed too.
Just thought I'd share that before I went to bed.
Night all xxx

MrsMcJnr · 02/09/2008 23:13

Hey ladies

JKS ? wow, that?s early! sorry to hear about the bad weather.

Gingeme ? I guess you are right about the knocks but they scare me to death ? PFB syndrome!!

Madmouse ? excellent! I bet you felt a lot better after that sleep! that?s good about the counselling hon, it can?t hurt. I totally agree about the therapeutic benefits of posting on Mumsnet. We lost our first baby when I was 13 weeks pregnant and it hurt so much but the ladies on this site got me through and guided me through the scary weeks of my pregnancy with Xavier, it?s a godsend

Lilyloo ? how is DD hon?

DS is very grumpy again today with his teeth my Mum had him for a few hours this afternoon as I had to see someone about possible work this sounds so ungrateful but he always comes back with scratches on his face from her rings and without his dummies and toys I?m being unreasonable (and ungrateful) aren?t I? I just worry about him and personally hate losing things!

LaTrucha · 03/09/2008 09:55

Lilyloo - How's DD? I'm guessing you had a bad night's sleep? . Hope docs appointment puts your miond at reat. I'm thinking horse fly. Possible? They used to make the whole part of whichever of my limbs they ahd bitten.

Gingeme - LOL at George and the dog! I smust try fishfinger - still haven't. Did he sleep well after his bottle?

MrsMc - scratches on his face from her rings! I'd be alarmed. Sabela often scratches herself but I don't think I've managed to do it yet. How's Xavier's teeth? They cost Sabela hell and I think we're on our second batch.

JKS - how was the sleep last night? And how did the monsters go down?

Lucky - Wouldn't hurt to ask GP and have your mind put at rest.

MM - Glad you're getting more sleep. You must be fed up of doctors telling you things about Nathan, although I'm glad it doesn't seem to be serious. When we went to hospital with Sabela for her UTI the consultant told us about two or three things else that 'probably wouldn't develop'. And then they didn't make clear what action needed or didn't need to be taken. You wish they hadn't said anything! Nathan is eating loads now!

Sabela's appetite seems to be returning slowly, though she's still mistrustful. I had 6 and a half hours last night without having to get out of bed because DH stayed up working last night and settled Sabela each time she woke. Her teeth really do cost her. Sadly, at 4 when he went to bed she was sopleased to see me all she wanted ot do was play. Only got about an hour more. Frustrating! But I think he's going to do the same again for the next while 'cos he gets a lot done with no distractions at night so hopefully she'll get used to it and to not having bf.

madmouse · 03/09/2008 10:24

Lily how is dd?

Lucky you are overreacting! Maybe dd had some oxygen but unless she was in scbu for a few days which i do not remember she did not have a vent tube down her throat which is what ventilating is.

It is possible that she also has a flabby larynx, it is quite common. But it is nothing scary and needs no treatment. You could ask gp next time you see them.

Susie at playing at 4am. If Nathan does that I bore him back to sleep by just holding him in a dark room and refusing to do anything else.

Fragolina · 03/09/2008 10:30

Morning all.

Lilyloo - how's dd doing? Poor little mite - why do these things always happen at night or on a Sunday?! Loved your suggestion of a sap weekend instead of kitten - now why didn't DH think of that?!

Madmouse - glad you were feeling better, I have dark thoughts of doom and disaster too sometimes, and I think every parent must. It is very scary having a little person who is totally dependent on you for their wellbeing. If counselling will help, go for it, you've been through so much with Nathan so don't underestimate your feelings. Glad that noise has been explained.

LaT - I know, tiffs do happen and it doesn't mean Dh and I love each other any less, but sometimes grrrr.....No suggestions on washer dryer, although when I was researching them sometime ago, it seemed a lot of them ended up really creasing the clothes and as I hate ironing, that was a no no for me. T eventually started taking the bottle a week ago (had stopped since she was 5 months) - it was through persistence, offering her an ounce or two every couple of hours and after having bought every teat on the market. I've also started taking the bottle away if she's pushing it away and screaming, before she gets another complex about it. I had also stopped breastfeeding her in the daytime (so boob at morning and evening feeds and in the night if needed), and mixing milk in all her food.

Ange - with putting the cot bumper higher up, what about the annoying little string ties? Won't lo undo them?

Mrs McJ - what was the gist of the babyproofing your marriage book? Think we're fine really underneath it all. I agree that letting them take the knocks sounds scary, but am going to grit my teeth. Sympathies about your irritations with yr mum - not unreasonable at all, I also hate it hate it when T doesn't come back with the bits I sent her off with...but remind yourself she didn't do such a bad job raising you, did she? I tell myself that about DH and my MIL when she gets up my nose, and then I remember - oh actually she wasn't really a hands on mum, the daily practicalities were mostly done by extended family and nannies Worrying. Haven't yet taken the plunge and left her in sole charge for more than 2 hours.

lucky - how was last night's sleep?

JKS - yay for the clapping. tana does this too, adorable.

Gingeme - just reading about your cleaning whirlwind gave me the urge to lie down for a rest . So cute about George and the dog making friends, and lol at the image of him crawling like a chameleon. Dh had seen out kitten's brother at his mate's house and went and got her from someone's house, and clearly forgot to ask some all important questions. After the red haze of my blow up at him (triggered by him saying I was hormonal), all I remember is saying something along the lines of 'do you not think I have enough sh*t to clean up?'

Today is Tana's day at the childminder - seems to be getting on really well there. Not sure how it'll be now that other kids are back in school and childminder's school run times seem to also be Tana's breakfast time (she usually has a mummy-provided breakfast at CMs.). The teething is endless, and wouldn't mind so much if I could just see one tooth!!. Off to work today for a meeting - what shall I wear? Still have a strange wrinled wobbly belly following me around, and need some highwaisted trousers to contain it, or alternatively should do more sit ups [lazy emoticon].

Anyone have a strange feeling of pressure/pulling in pelvis when they put their weight on one leg and bend forward slightly? Not been quite right since forceps!

Fragolina · 03/09/2008 10:56

oops, meant 'spa' weekend, and have seen loads of other typos . Heaven help me when I go back to work and start sending offical emails.

Gingeme · 03/09/2008 11:17

Morning ladies. Funny none of my boys have clapped at this age. I was trying to get George to do it just now but he seems to prefer hitting my hand with one of his hands iykwim?
He slept till 12 then woke screaming. Did a massive burp and fart and went back to sleep. Woke again at 5am for a bottle and slept till about 7.15 where he was crying because he was in his sleeping bag and was getting frustrated because he couldn't stand up
Lol fragolina. Going to do my last cupboard today. Not realy a clear out though just a tidy up of my bed clothes and towels etc. Are you keping the kitten?
Mrsmcjnr couldn't you ask your Mum to remove her rings while looking after lo? My engagement ring used to catch on the cot bed sheets cause they were terry toweling.
JkS Did you have a peaceful night? Any nightmares?
Not doing much today. Going to the MIL's for lunch. Might do a park if the weather holds.
Off to do that cupboard now.
TTFN

Fragolina · 03/09/2008 11:20

Sucker that I am, we're keeping the kitten. I will post a pic, so you can all see what a cute face I couldn't resist.

Gingeme · 03/09/2008 11:40

Aw Frag your just like me a sucker for a cute face
Found out one of my friends had a baby girl by c section last week. I can't wait to see her. Funny thing is I don't feel in the least bit broody

LuckySalem · 03/09/2008 13:10

Ahhh sorry MM - I didn't know that was what a ventilator was. I thought it was the oxygen mask. I'll stop panicking now that I know its not that bad a thing and speak to GP if she still does it at her 12month jabs.

Frag - No worse last night. I didn't fall asleep until 12:30 then got woken up at 1:30 with a bad stomach. DD up at 3am then 5am (at which point she wouldn't go back to sleep and wanted to play) [tired]

madmouse · 03/09/2008 13:35

Lily where are you

LuckySalem · 03/09/2008 14:07

Sorry Lilly - I hope everything is ok with DD. Hopefully you've just had a bad nights sleep and are lieing in.

Lilyloo · 03/09/2008 16:26

Ladies just to let you know dd on the mend swelling going down and she got abs and ab cream but had awful night last night think got 3 hours sleep so haven't caught up sorry for no personals But thanks to all for advice much appreciated!

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LaTrucha · 03/09/2008 19:39

Poor you, Lilyloo. Do they know what caused it? Poor little mite, too.

Fragolina - did you go cold turkey on the feeding during the day? And how many days of persistence did it take with the bottle? Sorry to be so nosey!

LOL at making Nathan bored. I think DH does the same thing. Hmm. Too soft. Bu tif I try to bore her she just finds a chink in the curtain / crack on the wall / smudge to have a laugh with instead.

madmouse · 03/09/2008 21:05

Lily once you have caught up on sleep tell us what you did in the end, did you see a doctor during the night?

Right, have another sore jaw here, dentist (who is lovely actually) has fitted the new crown and a filling. So all done. Problem is that Nathan headbutts a lot, and is also heavily into happy slapping my face. Cue me getting very irritable when he did that to the wrong side o my ace, which happens to be the side I hold him.

On the upside dh had no difficulty looking after him while I was away. And we seem to have progressed to a poo a day, always in the evening after clean nappy and pyamas .

Any tips or teaching to drink from tommee tippee cup? Put ebm in it which he refused. He will take water from it but not swallow it? Now he is eating so much I am noticing a reduction in milk intake, although not much, and I would like him to drink some water.

How is everyone else? It seems very quiet here atm.

Fragolina, I believe I have not even said hello to you, how rude. You and dd look as beautiful as ever

Fragolina · 03/09/2008 21:06

Lilyloo - glad dd is ok, that was quite worrying!
LaT - With the breastfeeding in the day, I just stopped and it was surprisingly fine - she didn't even seem bothered, actually, and it took a day or so for my boobs to get used to it, but after that it was really easy. The bottle has been another story though, total nightmare. At 51/2 months DH gave her cow&gate (the one stray carton in the cupboard), as I had forgotten to tell him not to give it to her as it had really made her vomit previously. So she spent that afternoon projectile vomiting and then refused to have anything to do with the bottle (even filled with EBM), and would start screaming if it was even near her. I left it for a couple of weeks, then I started letting her play with the bottle, having it on her tray for meals, offering her a few ounces several times a day, but keeping it relaxed and taking it away if she rejected it a couple of times, and really trying to not get stressed and make it non-pressured. After two weeks she was happy to have it in her mouth, and maybe took another few days before she drank anytihng at all. When she was established on solids, I cut out the daytime bfs and mixed formula in her food, but also left her the bottle to play with and drink milk from if she wanted - sometimes she drinks some, sometimes not. I have been trying to get her to take a mid afternoon bottle over the past couple of weeks, but she's really not keen on that - takes 2oz max. And now I only seem to be doing one bf at about 5am. Have tried giving the bottle at this time, but she's had a screaming fit. Also tried alternating boob and bottle, which works for a few minutes, but she's now onto that trick too. It sounds like it took ages and a lot of stress, but actually wasn't that bad - maybe about 4 weeks in total. I now give her the bottle at her bedtime for the past week and she had 4oz today! Really pleased. She's very stubborn when she's had enough and gets really cross if she thinks she's being forced to have it. HTH

With the playing at 4am - if I give T a cuddle on my shoulder with her snuggly cloth, shush her a little then put her back in her cot, she tends to burble for a while then fall asleep.

Fragolina · 03/09/2008 21:14

Thanks madmouse - x post! Flattery will get you anywhere with me, so I forgive you for not saying hello!! Tana doesn't drink water much - a couple of sips and then she decides to spout it in arcs all down herself (charming!). I've decided to offer it and not stress if she is/isn't drinking, and to take the bf-ing philososphy onto feeding - they'll take what they need as long as you offer. ooooow about the sore jaw and happy slapping - who knew little babies could be so strong!

Awful bathtime today, I got soap in her eye, cue major drama fit, had to cuddle screaming, wet baby for consolation while simultaneously rinsing her eye out, and trying to keep her warm with my body heat because I didn't have a spare hand to grab the towel! At the end, she was happy and dry, and I was all wet and wanted to cry. Dh was working late and off to squash tonight.

Oooh, lilyloo - DH is starting to get a clue, has booked me in for one hour massage tomorrow evening. Can't wait.

Right enough rambling from me - I disappear for weeks and now clearly have too much to say!

nicky6 · 03/09/2008 22:19

hi guys back from holiday had a great time was lovely spending a week just the three of us.

Not nearly caught up but hope everyone is well. Few nights of early waking from charlie hoping she is just reacclimitasing to being home.

must go to bed

AngeChica · 04/09/2008 09:31

Hi all
another bad night. DS seems to have stopped sleeping thru. He goes through till about 3-4am and then I am up and down like a yo yo, he is very fidgety in cot ad just won't settle. sure if he is hungry (I did give him some milk at 4am this morn but he still didn't settle) cos I cut out the night feed or if he is crying to be in our bed with us as I let him come in when he was ill. Bad idea probably!

My brother's baby is due today!!!! We're expecting a new niece any time now. Exciting!

Gingeme · 04/09/2008 11:04

Hi ladies. Bit of a rough night here too last night then the little darling was wide awake and shouting at us to get up at 6am
Welcome home Nicky6 glad you had a good holiday.
Keep us posted Angechica how exciting for your family
We went to my mil for lunch yesterday. Lo ate a whole 'lumpy' jar and a piece of toast and marge and a fromage frais and a piece of banana
Rotten raining here today looks like soft play day today.