July 2008 - Now our babies are arriving let's have a thread to talk about them...

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Hi ladies
I know there are many of us still to pop but thought it would be nice to start a thread that we can come to once the LO's are here

Abbie is 4 weeks and 3 days old today and my due date isn't here yet

Abbie is doing great - eating and sleeping and very content. The feeding was hard going at first as it is very frequent with her being early but I think you actually get used to being tired

Someone (sorry can't remember who) was talking about bottle and bf together and nipple confusion. Well all the times I have bf I have done so exclusively even when it was very difficult - I am stubborn As Abbie was early and lost a good bit of weight the mw advised topping her up with ebm through a syringe. This was tough as I was bf then trying to express only to bf 1 hour later - so I gave her formula to top up. Giving her the milk in a syringe became difficult as they tended to spurt the milk too quickly at times. So I gave her a bottle to top up( Tommee Tippee - closer to nature) and it was great!!

I bf her all day and then top up after bf at night to get a bit longer sleep - it's working - she is putting on weight and no nipple confusion

sorry for huge post - hope you will all come over and join me!!!!!

isaidno - congrats on your anniversary - lovely gift too!

happy birthday, Jodie! another fellow Leo ( I married one too!)

libra - i do that every morning during the first nap - waste time on the internet then she's up again an hour later and i am still in my pjs!

congrats bebe - what a sweetie!

i have a smiley pic on my profile (those smiles make the night feeds worthwhile!)

argh argh, quick question - do you serve EBM straight from the fridge?????

Libra, no reason why not, AFAIK, but I would probably take the chill off it by sticking the bottle in some warm water for a few minutes.

Disney, good to hear Sam's doing so well. Did you get a chance for a chat with DH yet re his work situation?

I've started thinking about contraception, and wanted to ask if anyone has used the Mirena coil? Someone I know was singing its praises so I thought I might ask the GP about it at my 6-week appt. I was on the mini-pill before (which worked a treat for me) but we knew then that we probably wanted another baby. Now I need something as reliable as possible and more long-term. Did ask dh if he would consider the snip, but he wasn't too keen

Oh, and happy birthday Jodie - one year off 30, you lucky thing [haggard old witch emoticon]

Congrats Bebe - glad to see you made it! Your little girl looks adorable.
Happy Birthday Jodie!
Congratulations isaidno - it is my 10th wedding anniversary in a month also. Can not believe how quickly marriage zooms by! Having been giving very big diamond hints!

Have been busy this week - went to stay with friends from Sat - Tuesday in Oxfordshire, then I took my DD of 4 and Rafferty into London to get his passport on Wednesday. It was an adventure. Then decided to head down to Oxford Street to do a bit of shopping. It was much better than I thought - lots of places to bf (M&S and John Lewis). Not in a rush to do it again but was still fun!

Raff sleeps well in his pram when I am out and about. I do prop him up during the day - have never heard of keeping them flat TJuice - except at night or when sleeping.

OnThursday night I went out for my first proper adult dinner party. DD was baby sat and Rafferty sat in car seat under the table! His colic was not too bad that evening, had to put in his dummy quite a few times and then eventually after eating I just held him. Anyone else coping with colic?

Went to Bodium Castle yesterday - so relieved it was sunny. Had a great picnic and DD got to imagine she was a Princess in a real castle. They have wonderful imaginations... DH came too as I still have one more week until I can drive. Yippeeee can not wait to drive again!

Libra I usually dunk my bottles in hot water to take the chill off. If out I will ask for a mug of hot water. Made a point of not warming up DD's food/drink when she was little as I did not want her to get too used to warm food. I had friends whose babies would not eat unless it was heated and you can not always access such things when out.

I now have bags and bags of washing to do and as the house is quiet and everyone is still asleep (how long will that last!!??) - I better go and do it! Have a great weekend everyone!

cute smiley pic tjuice. Poppy has started to give me lots of smiles now - makes you feel appreciated!

No sex for me last night. Half a bottle of champagne made me very sleepy!! Re contraception my dh has a preliminary appointment at the vasectomy clinic in September, which will mean def no more babies for me. I don't want anymore, but the finality makes me a bit sad. It also means I am enjoying (spoiling) Poppy alot more as a baby - knowing she's the last.

I have heard it is bad for a baby's spine to be propped up for too long, at least for the first 3 months.

I have heard about bad propping up for too long, but what are you to do when you have long car journeys? I guess just try not to do it too often.

I am typing at the moment with LO asleep in the sling. I guess that counts as propped up too!

Sorry to have posted and run last night! in the end we didn't give the bottle until this morning as he was so sleepy last night. He seemed to splutter quite a bit and I think the stream might be too fast for him. He then sicked about 3/4 of it up!!! But he would take the bottle which is a start I think we might try a different teat however.

Thank you to all who answered my question about EBM.

TJuice - so glad for you that elodie is a happy baby! You are not the only one with seperate bedrooms, my DH sleeps in the spare room during the week and then joins us for the weekend, I do miss him but it just makes sense at the moment.

isaidno - what is your take on b/f and booze? How long does it take to get thru your system and into your milk?

CilC - I couldn't wait until 6 weeks so went to my GP last week and he gave me clearance to drive, so nice to be able to leave the house!

Tjiuce - libra - i wish we had the option of separate bedrooms -very irritating sitting up feeding for 1.5 hours in the middle of the night with dh snoring fit to wake the neighbourhood next to me!! Mind you, he doesn't mind me waking him up if I get desparate when she won't settle, so can't really complain.
I too miss driving but my scar has got quite sore lately - think i did too much, twisted doing something and felt it 'pull apart a little - so don't think i'll be driving for a little bit longer. Luckily mum still playing chauffeur!
I may be wrong, but i think you have to drink quite a large amount for it to affect baby through your milk?? Don't know how long it would take to get through though - farly immediate?? I know various medicines eg antibiotics go through straight away.

oh tjuice just looked at your pics - elodie is so gorgeous!!

isaidno - congrats on your anniversary

Bebe - Lovely photos

Libra - I too usually warm up my EBM in a cup of hot water... just enough to take the chill off so its about room temp.
Agree about not warming everything as it can be a nightmare when out and about..especially as so many places refuse to warm bottles ect now.

Clic - We went to Bodium Castle for our wedding anniversary in June..Its lovely there isnt it

After an unsettled start to the night Abigail slept for 5 and a half hours last night!

Just been into town and bought a georgous baby book so think ill start filling it in whilst shes fast asleep.

I don't worry about alcohol in breast milk. Only very small quantities get through and the alcohol does not stay in the milk. I don't tend to have more than 2 glasses of wine - basically if I am sober enough not to drop the baby it's ok!!!

Worst night ever DD2 up and DD3 didnt settle!! Now living on coffee to keep me awake.. DD3 is very unsettled..
One of those days where i wonder why i do this to myself!!

Hope you and LO are all doing well..

Hi all,

So Dh has just gone off to drop the boys at MIL, and I am sitting here crying! Not bothered about DS1 he's done it a million times! It will be the longest away from Sam though... I'm sure I;ll forget about it by the time I've had a couple of glasses of vino!

As for alcohol in the milk, I quite regularly have 1-2 glasses of wine (maybe 3 times a week) and thats OK.. Tonight though I;m going to have to express all of tomorrow and throw it away until tomorrow evening, so the HV says.

Happy anniversary Isaidno...

Tjuice- Elodie a a star, how pretty!
Rumple - Sam over it now, only had 5 spots in the end, HV reckons coz at the time he was Exlusively BF and had my immunity stocked in him from birth (was only 3 weeks) so not to rule out him getting it again Thanks for asking!

Off to shower and get my glad rags on! Have dug out my (not so) skinny jeans and a sparkly top, lets hope they fit!

hmm Jodie, I think your HV might be talking crap about the pump and dump, the breastfeeding counsellor I saw (thru the NCT) said that as soon as the alchol was out of your system then it was out of your milk so unless you really intend to drink a bar dry tonight you would be fine to breastfeed tomorrow. Have a fab time out

have a great night jodie I was out last week and it was so good to be me for the night and not just a mummy xxx

as for alcohol and b/f - as long as you're not having too much then it's ok i think- i like to have a glass of wine when cooking and i've b/f 4 babies xx

Hi all,

Sorry not been on and posted in a while - been so busy trying to get Connor into a routine. At the moment I feel like I'm constantly trying to keep him awake when he's sleepy and trying to get him to sleep when he's awake!

I'm actually a bit tearful right now and think hormones are making it worse. Have had a bad day with the DP today. He's a season ticket holder for his fave football club and whilst I knew he would be going to todays (first game of season) match when Connor is only 5 weeks old, I was so hurt when he arranged to meet his friends really early and was going to stay out all night. It made me feel like he couldn't wait to escape from me and his baby. I'd been up since 5.30 and took connor downstairs so dp could have a lie-in thinking that he would look after connor in the afternoon before football for me to have a nap but instead he went out.

I ended up crying at him but he went anyway. Now he's rung to say he's on his way home "early" because I told him too. He said he resents it and that I am making him and of course he would rather stay out drinking than come home to me crying and moaning! So that set me off again.

Sorry to post all this but needed somewhere to get it off my chest. Am I really being mean to him by getting upset that he couldn't wait to leave the house today? I look after connor all week by myself when dp is at work and so I really thought he's want to spend some time with us at the weekend but it looks not. It seems my life has drastically changed but he is not prepared to alter his without being resentful of me.

Best go as got to get some dinner before connor wakes up. Sorry for the really selfish post, will try better next time!

Hi All - I have only just caught up and don't have time to comment on all the amazing posts. Suffice to say my sympathies are with all the exhausted Mums on here. I feel so exhausted I just don't know how you mothers of more than one cope. I've been the most ratty, horrible woman and even fainted the other night.

NobbyD are you me? My DH took off to the first Arsenal game at 12pm today and is still out. Despite me saying that I was cooking him dinner, he just rang to say he was "grabbing a burger" with his mates... he's been out 8 hours already and I've been caring for a sick baby since 5am. And exactly like you he's now saying "oh okay, I'll come home..." and I feel like the wicked witch of the west! Darling, I so empathise with you... it really hurts. We just want them to say, "honey, I can't wait to get home to be with you and to give you a break".

Just watching X Factor and the 26 year old with 5 kids - OMG!
xx

I too have just watched X factor and couldnt believe that woman. Im 27 and just had my first... cant begin to believe having 5 by now!!

Sorry to you Football widows Thankfully DH isnt into football that much and only watches the main big games on tv.

Enjoy your night out Jodie

I feel really tired today. Havent done aything special today and Abigail slept 5 and a half hours last night. Think its my busy week last week catching up with me.

Tjuice- Your smiley pics are very sweet.Cant wait for real smiles from Abigail.
She made me laugh wed night when DH bought in Fish n chips. Friend was round and said to Abbie "here comes Daddy with your dinner" to which she gave a huge big smile! Great timing!

Evening All,

TJUICE - she is beautiful! Well done you two for making lovely babies.

NOBBY - I think sometimes men feel a bit scared by thw eight of responbsibility and just need to escape form it all. I know it is not fair but that is juts the way they are - we are made of stronger stuff. Hell comne round but most of them just cannot do the tiny baby struff - they do not really bond until baby is bigger and mnore animated. Also I think the move from you being their partner to a Mum can be a bit difficult for them. I know it is tough biut I would see it as a compromise that he has been out with hois mates but still is coming home early to please you. It will get better in the meantime sending you mega hugsxxx

I am lucky DH hates football - he is a formula 1 man - still bloody irritating but at least it is not on TV all the time.

Took Calvin out in the sling for the first time today with DD on her reins. It is very comfy in an upright position - a Maya one.

Had a terrible night again last night - up every 2 hours so bought exctra hungry milk today to see if that helps fingers xxx.

DH has been away all day today too - meetinga friend in Edinburgh (it is the festival) and going for curry and a few beers.

Calvin has been awake most of today so is fast asleep now at possibility of a decvent nights sleep.

Well am off to fill up my vino glass again.

take care all - hope you are having lovely weekends with anniversaries and birthdays.xxxx

apologies for dreadful typos - addled mushy brain and rubbish dexterity due to lack of recuperating sleep zzzzzzzzz

rumpel i agree with you about the bondings with dads and the tiny babies
nobby we all have our off days or us crying and moaning at our dh
read some of my posts having a good old moan about my dh half the time im just so shattered and tired i just plain need him around more or i just expect more
i come on here and it seems to fall in perspective my dh does do his best good and bad
rumpel like yours mines a formula 1 guy to

took sam to the hospital yesterday and we cant fly now till we see a cardiac specialist soon
he weighs 9lb 4oz now
going to take him to bed now he likes being in his room in his bed looking at his familiar things it seems to settle him
lets hope for a good night same to you guys good nights sleep all round x

morning all!

thanks for the comments on Elodie - I think she's lovely but then I am pretty biased . . .

I had a little b/f drama recently. I felt like my supply was dwindling a bit and I couldn't quite keep up with her and it was tiring. Also, I couldn't express enough for dh to do the 10.30 feed, which he really enjoys doing (great bonding time). So I started drinking lots of water and pumping after every feed but then Elodie started just refusing to eat, unless I put on a nipple shield!?

Luckily, I think my supply is up again and I can actually express enough but she is still doing the weird nipple refusal now and again. I can trick her by whipping it off half-way through - but its so strange.

nobby - you are not being mean by getting upset at all. its a major change for both of you and that means weekends are different. I suppose in the long-term its ok if your dp wants to have a day to himself occasionally but only if we get one too! (or at least a few hours "off"). Friday afternoons are supposed to be "me-time" because my dh comes home a bit earlier (4-ish) but we usually do something together. Anyway, hope you get a bit of respite soon.

Disney - wow, Sam is growing so much. nice that he is settling well in his room.

rumpel - think you're spot on about men and little babies.

jodie - I also heard that all alcohol metabolises out of your breastmilk after an hour?! How was your night anyway? was it nice getting a bit gussied up and getting out?

I am wearing the most bizarre outfits these days. Old jeans just about fit but with horrid muffin top so i am still in kind of yoga pants and thai fishermen's trousers etc. then vest tops and cardigans. I am a top-down breastfeeder (as opposed to lifting up) and have found that some of my funky dresses and tops work but its kind of pointless trying too hard when you end up with milk stains all over you!

cilc - respect to you going shopping in central london! i get around copenhagen really well, as its small and easily accessible but i am coming back to london in august and wonder how i will manage! did you take the tube? can you do that with a pram?

Trying to catch up best I can but so tired nothing is going in!! Just popped up while Little Madam is sleeping! Dh goes back to work 2moro, he only had a week off and I spent most of it in hospital so I think 2moro will be miserable but MW said she would come see me and make sure I was ok! Phoebe finally had the massivist poo ever yesterday, she hadn't gone since Sunday and we were hours away from having to take her to get checked out, DH was on phone to MW when the first one was 'discovered' but we had the dreaded leaky nappy in the afternoon and the poor little thing was covered...and I had just put her in a new sleepsuit!! Nipples are so sore so been slapping on the cream...just looks like blood blisters not actually broken skin...is this normal?!?! Right off to check email before she wakes up again!!