June 08 babies - I know there's a few of us about!

[isaidno]

Thought I'd start a thread inbetween breastfeeding, laundry and bossing DH about tyo do stuff!

Let's make a list of members!

ISAIDNO - baby girl; Poppy Elizabeth; born 18 / 6/ 08; 6lb 4oz

I LOVE DUMMIES!!! There!! im the first one to say it shouting out loud!!!!! Agree that all the myths etc are a conspiracy though, my theory is If it calms fleur it calms me.

Neenz - When its really hot she sleeps in a body suit with no legs and no arms but i do put her in an all in one really thin cotton sleepsuit most of the time at night, as she is much calmer and sleeps easier if she is covered up but she wont have sheets or be swaddled. I also have a really thin cotton celluar blanket from mothercare which is fab and if she falls asleep in a no sleeves/legs suit and feels cold later on i tuck it around her but its off by morning!!!

UDC- im taking that contraception too its the only one i can take with HBP

i was wondering where debs had got to! Hope all well in Austria Debs

I've come over all emotional that you missed me Allipalli and Paro! I just popped on to lurk and have a quick read - all I have time for at the moment. Last wedding guests went yesterday but now we have a houseful of normal guests! Busy ferrying boys to tennis lessons, been swimming today and took friends 2 children too so it's been a long day.

Ethan is fine, we actually had a 5 hour stretch the other night - it hasn't been repeated though. I love dummies too Paro but Ethan doesn't.

Will try to catch up with you all later.

Josie only the one child here and he can't hold a crayon, but some tips here:

name that stain

Allnew it's awful when breastmilk is lost! Why, I don't know, but it's much worse than spilling expensive wine! I suppose it's more valuable than most wines . But don't go crying over spilt milk now. (Sorry everybody!)

Penguin when you say leak, do you mean poo leaking down the leg type leak, or wee through to the clothing? (Sorry again, everybody!) I was concerned about the nappies I have so posted on the nappies board, but I've been reassured that the nappy being soaking wet when I take it off is ok. So far, I've not had any leaks but Iestyn has stopped pooing at every nappy change. (Told that this is normal too - HV today.)

Iestyn has slept all day and I had to wake him for a feed - I'm assuming this is the weather (hot here but nothing like down south!). We've just had a heavy shower which has helped - I'm all headachey becuase of the mugginess.

Oh, and the dummy appreciation society - I'm a life member!

I dropped a bottle of EBM today allnew . So gutted - especially as supply slowing. Good idea (UDC I think) re expressing more - will try and increase.

allnew - on the infection front... I had an infection 'downstairs' post birth, and they gave me some general antibiotics while I waited for swab to come back. S was fine with them (he was getting EBM). When results came back, the GP said the type of infection I had would only work with specific antibiotics that weren't compatible with bf. I refused to take them, my MW backed me up, took another swab and the infection had gone with the original antibiotics, lots of lavender baths and arnica. Could you speak to your MW/HV about getting antibiotics that dont affect your breastmilk so much?

Glad to hear you all being dummy advocates - seriously considering it now.

Right, need to go express and try and make up for that lost bottle...

Deb pleased to hear all is well.

Allnew Like BDQ I had a c-section infection too. I also have an allergy to penicillin which complicates things so probably ended up on different drugs to you. I ended up on 2 sets of anti-biotics at the same time, first set was started whilst they were trying to establish what kind of infection it was. GP gave no dire warnings about the effects on breast milk, and I am pleased to report that there was no noticable change in Peter for the duration, but then he is a milk monster, and it would take something quite special to put him off I think.

6 week check went well. I can now drive again . However Peter woke up the moment the dr got near him and howled, so she could not check everything. Net result: we have to go back again next week.

I would love to be able to join the dummy appreciation society, but P isn't a great fan. He will suck on one if you hold it for him and it calms him down. He wont hang on to it himself for more than a few seconds, then when he drops it, he goes puce coloured very quickly.

Another scorcher in the south east here today. Jamie has just woken up from a day spent sleeping to try to avoid the heat. A late night in stofre for us again then.

Josie, we did once have a lovely bright red crayon motif on our lovely dark green wallpaper. I afraid to say that there isn't a happy ending to this story. We tried loads of stuff to get it off, none of which worked but a couple of which trashed the paper even worse. In the end we had to re-decorate with wipe- able paint. Sorry.

Just a quickie cos Ryder is only being kept from screaming by DH turning my hairdryer on! (It only stops the screaming for about 5mins, but that is enough to calm him down a bit).

Alipalli - When would be good for you on Thursday? I can do all day, but would like to try and avoid Waterloo rush hour! Amber - Is there anytime you can't do?

Essie - Re: leaking nappies, we had a combination of the two, poo leaking onto clothes. TBH I think the ones we have may just be a bit too big for him right now so will keep those ones and try again in a few weeks.

Hope everyone is keeping as cool as they can. I'm not enjoying the heat of breastfeeding much. I have to peel Ryder off me after a feed!

Interesting about Jamie sleeping in the heat sybil coz it seems to keep isaac awake and we have to put him on his playgym/bouncer/mat on the floor.

I bought a fan today and it has worked to keep us cooler, but feeding is a nightmare we both get very hot and sticky.

PP have you tried music channels to keep ryder from screaming? also on sky there are 2 channels - baby first and baby ??? - neither will entertain isaac though, he was fine watching some novelty record countdown until 'cliff richard and the young ones' came on good taste there!!

Aberdeen the more I think about what you said about Theo going through a developmental spurt the more it makes sense. He has started to cry when I leave his sight. It is so sweet... and interesting that Esther still doesn't care if I am there or not (as long as she has been fed)! I am looking forward to reading the book. I do tend to go a bit mental when I get a new book though. I read the Baby Whisperer book (well, skimmed it) the other day. Most of it I found really patronising but some of it was like... yeah that will work! So I am kind of doing her book and Gina Ford at the moment..a recipe for disaster no doubt. And the heat just makes everything so difficult. I am lucky though that my house downstairs is really cool - i haven't had to peel any babies off me after BFing yet! The nursery is 26 degrees now tho so I have two babies sleeping down here in the kitchen where it is cool.

Hi All - haven't managed to post as much as usual as Damien Luke has been a massive handful and I can't get on the computer )he won't sleep and I seem to have to hold him the whole time. I haven't read anything other than this page but just wanted to say hello and that I am still alive and I hope that everyone is doing well. Luke is huge now 12lbs at 5 weeks last week. He's smiling now and doesn't seem to want the dummy much any more (why??????!) he wants to lick everything instead like he's tasting it! Any ideas what that's about?

Alipali/PP

PS - are we doing Thursday then - yay!! I can do any time x Can you let me know on hotmail - merci buckets

Amber I'd suggest waiting till he seems really tired (prob about an hour after feeding when he is yawning or looking glazed over) and then putting him in his cot/moses basket in a dark room... he will cry (scream maybe!) but just leave him for five minutes and see if he settles. Often you think 'I can't put him down' but actually you just haven't given him the chance to settle himself. Five minutes seems a really long time when LO is screaming... but no one ever died from crying for 5mins.

Essie which reusuables are you using?

neenz tried that - once he started going purple we picked him up. He does go to sleep but doen't stay asleep (does sleep at night though). Today he woke up with a start and screamed blue murder for 5 hours even though he ws deperately tired. Kept dropping off and then waking up suddenly with desperate screaming - awful. Maybe he had a bad dream - do babies have bad dreams???

gosh sounds awful... dont know about bad dreams. do you have a vibrating recliner (thats my answr to everything!)

my sil had a baby who was hard to settle... he loves his vibrating recliner!! shuts up every time he goes in it.

Hi Everyone,

Was a really hot day here too, but the house seems a bit cooler tonight. I remember a tip when we were in Oz was to freeze bottles water and put it in the babies room in front of the fan, we did it with ds and it worked well.

Neenz the main way the coil works is its toxic to sperm, although don't like the idea that's its killing dh's little men either. I know it can stop the implantation as well, but so does the pill, and I really couldn't cope with another baby at the mo, a toddler and a newborn is pretty exhausting!

Amberc Wow that some weight, Mia still only 10lb 2oz and she's 9 weeks! Still having problems with bf, nipples are still sore I think the thrush left them in a really state and Mia only has to latch slightly wrong and they get all mangled. I'm going to la leche league tomorrow, I really hope they can help.

amberc would love to know what babies dream about, bug boobies chasing them! Taking mine outside in the pram usually helps them to sttle, although a bit embarassing taking out a screaming baby.

Neenz I second the vibrating chair, its my best friend.

hi, just catching up again... Charlotte is still doing well. takes a long time to settle in the evenings and we've had a couple of real screaming marathons but once she eventually goes down she tends to give us a 4 hour stretch at least, and after a feed we get another 3 hours or so. I've had my sister and then my Mum staying though and it's definately helped having the extra hands to do everything else, like cook the dinner and do ironing! (BDQ you were the ironing queen weren't you? i never iron, and suddenly my ironing mountain has vanished!)

someone was asking about Mamma Mia, we went to the mums and babies screening last week it was ace, nice light relief and I always love Julie Walters. We're going to see WallE tomorrow!

oh, and wish I could join the Dummy love club, but Charlotte has a hatred of them and gags attractively if we try one!

I have a vibrating chair and unbelievably he doesn't like it! I am wondering if he'll grow into liking it - let's hope so. The night nanny is putting a routine together for us now that we need to stick to so we'll see if that works - means 4 hourly feeds not 3 and we need to give him water in between which he hates and spits out - gawd help me!!

neenz: re the coil. For me it was a practical choice. New research came out last year which shows slightly higher links between cervical cancer and women who've been on the pill for ten or more years. Since I'd been on the pill for around 15, I needed another form of birth control and that trumped any other concerns.

I am a bit behind the posts right now - will try to catch up later. Hope everyone's keeping well!

Amber, Jamie hates the vibrating chair too. He arches his back and screams if we turn it on, which is a pain as the other two loved it and it was my best friend for the first six months or so of their lives.

MIL coming to visit today. Will probably be online less for a couple of days but will try to read even if don't post.

Sorry that was me forgetting to change nickname.

Laura I am the former ironing queen. Since S was born I've had un-ironed sheets on the bed, and worse still - I've left the house in clothes I haven't ironed !

DH and I going to purchase dummy today to see if that helps S settle at night. Infacol doesn't really seem to have made much difference and he doesn't settle at all between teatime and midnight. It's a complete pain because we really want to start a bit of a bath/bed routine to help him settle but its impossible while he's screaming. He hates having a bath or being topped and tailed anyway and its 10 times worse if he's not calm before he starts. And when we try and put him in his moses basket in the bedroom he wakes up constantly and screams, so DH and I take turns sitting upstairs in the dark trying to settle him.

Despite best intentions I also think he's now only falling asleep when we're holding him . Because he's been colicky over the last week we've been picking him up a lot to soothe him so now he's not sleeping as easily in his moses basket.

Is it really too much to ask to have a baby that has a few hours sleep in the evening in a bedroom...? [sigh]

Sorry, egocentric post and now he's crying so I'll need to go...

One last FF question to sponge and any others that make up bottles in advance as per previous guidelines... Do you mix formula with water as soon as its boiled, then put bottle in fridge or do you let the boiled water cool to 70 degrees and then mix it with formula (as per current guidelines) and then put it in the fridge? Also, how long would you leave bottles in fridge for? I think I'm going to go down the 'make a few bottles in advance' route as I'll never be able to keep on top of the one bottle as you need it malarky when DH goes back to work.

hi all, been lurking now and then and had a sort of epiphany last night which i though might help you DQ. i actually had the same epiphany with ds but i'd forgotten. Anwyn hated bath or top/tail time as well but last night after ds was in bed we were both so hot and sweaty i ran a bath and we both went in and dh took her out after i'd washed her.

she LOVED it. i think they just feel more secure in the water when they're being held. i just put my hands around her chest with fingers holding her head and facing me and she was goo and gahing and smiling all over the place. hope the dummy gives you some relief too.

allnew i had to throw away ebm we'd left in the fridge too long and i almost cried! it is precious liquid!!!

hope everyone's LO's are well. x