FEB 08- Sore nips and no naps continued!!!!

[sarahmikeharryandrosie]

Hi Ladies thought i wouls open the thread but i have no imagination- hence the title!!!!

Leesmum that's quite a breakfast your lo has!

We're not onto breakfast yet. Today I gave Andrew 3 cubes of parsnip (mixed with a tonne of milk because it was so thick and gloopy) and he ate around half. At teatime he had 3 cubes of peach, half a banana and about a tablespoon of fromage frais and ate it all. When we're out he'll eat a whole jar of the hipp banana yoghurt breakfast and would eat his own body weight in their blueberry and banana yoghurt. He's definitely got a sweet tooth but I suppose bm and formula are quite sweet so it's understandable that babies have a sweeter tooth.

Egg I don't think you need to worry about protein and things at this stage. I think they still get everything they need from milk. At this stage I think it's more about solids being more satisfying for them than worrying about which nutrients etc they're getting.

Lees mum- LO stopped sleeping through about 3 months ago. Tried not to feed him last night and he seemed ok with just putting dummy back in (apart from kicking cot for about 10 mins at 2am!). Will try again tonight.

Have stuck with farleys afterall as aptamil was poisonous (apparently seemed to be to ds!! Worse than farleys!).

Have houseful off offspring and boyfriend at mo, so had better go and rescue dh!

Egg - I think formula gives them everything they need at this age! We are basically having about one or two small jars of hipp organic a day; he usually has some of a fruity one and some of a savoury one. I would give him more but he just has enough and won't take any more. (Unless I make his favourite porridge when we will get through an entire banana, several prunes and a tablespoon of porridge) I think it's way too complicated to try and cover all the nutritional bases at this stage when he's eating such a small volume (and it makes my little brain hurt to think about such complicated things).

Rozzy I think I've given LO a very sweet tooth with my ridiculous chocolate intake while b/f. It says in our baby bible to introduce vegetables before fruit so as not to encourage sweet tooth. Oops.

Ginger - w/d on getting LO back to sleep. I really wish mine still took dummy! We keep meaning to try and not feed him when he wakes up at night (average twice a night) But at 2 in the morning principles are out the windown when I can feed him and be asleep again in 10 minutes or have him scream for an hour otherwise. We are thinking about moving DP to the front room for a few nights whiel we try and crack it but won't be much fun for me!

Leesmum - your life seems so organised!

Does anyone else feel under attack from over boisterous babies? Malc is so rough and almost savage the way he tries to eat me the whole time. He hangs on to my hair with both hands or pinches the skin on my neck or arms and twists, meanwhile gumming ferociously on my jawbone or nose and it really really hurts. I don't know if it's hunger or teething or what; he just doesn't do it to anyone else. Have got these really sore patches where he scratches and little bruises all over my arms. Anyone else have this? Hope he gets over it before teeth!!!

I am def under attack from my boisterous baby! He likes to "climb" up towards my face, and try and eat my chin and my cheeks. He also likes to grab onto me and hold tight - any handy fold of skin or bit of hair will do!

Honestly, it is like having a puppy or something .

I think it's just one of those developmental phases as they start to learn they are separable from you - LO has also started protesting when I leave the room, I think that's linked to it.

Lol at "under attack" but it does feel like that sometimes. I wish I could find a way of smoothing those nails down too. Do you think anyone would notice if he started wearing mittens in August?!!

Egg - I feel better now but I am absolutely exhausted. Had a 2 hour nap yesterday and have been going to bed at 9.30 but am still shattered. Having ds1 at home every day may be playing a part in that too!!

Ds2 is still on b/milk only (is nearly 28 weeks). I keep thinking I will start him on food soon but he's not showing any signs of being ready and is still happy just on milk so I'm leaving it for now and will just see how he goes.

We are off to the childminders this morning to finalise everything. It doesn't feel much better this time around - "hello, I don't really know you but could you look after my baby please?"

That must be tough beany - dh looks after kids when I'm at work but I have still cried each time I've gone back from mat leave. Needs must though.

Gill/Ginger - we're planning on putting lo in his own room soon and dh said this morning I should try ignoring him for a bit to see if he'll go back to sleep but we'll see how that one pans out. He's got a bit of a cold at the moment so I think that's causing him to be up more. Doesn't help that ds2 was up coughing and spluttering for 1.5 hours last night but refusing to take any medicine until I promised to get into bed with him afterwards - luckily we took him out of a junior bed and into a single bed 2 weeks ago so at least there was plenty of room. Gill I've had a sweet tooth lately too.

Well ds2 managed to wack ds1 over the head with a rake yesterday. He said it was an accident but we didn't see it happening so he was sent to his room anyway. Ds1 is still so honest that he still tells us when he's been bad but ds2 is a bit smarter/devious. Anyway it was bleeding and there's an impressive bump but he's fine. I've lost another lb this week but lo is on my knee and I think he wants feeding so I'll update the list later.

Egg - if your dcs are car sick, make sure they eat properly before getting in the car. I know it seems strange, but if they haven't eaten enough, the car will make them sicker.

I meant to ask, LO has burst into tears 3 times when people have held her. She quiets down when I pick her up but she never had a problem with other people holding her before; has anyone else experienced this, and do you have any solutions? She doesn't do it all the time. I have tried getting other people to hold her more, so she gets used to it. I don't want her to be one of those babies who only wants her mummy (although it would be nice for a little while

All advice appreciated. ta.

Bessie - they are just at the age where they are learning the difference between people they know and those they don't know so well and a lot of them will have a preference about that. I would just make sure you stay close by and can be seen until lo is ok with you going anywhere. Think of it as a warm up for separation anxiety phase (where all hell breaks loose when you leave the room!! )

I was woken up at 6.30 this morning by the cat crying on the landing, went to see what was going on and he had brought what I think was a bird in (didn't get close enough to see, I'm a complete wimp when it comes to things the cats brought in). Went back to bed and shut my door. Heard DH get up at 7 (we have seperate rooms because of his bad snoring) so I rang him on my mobile and asked him to sort it! Decided to get up and feed DS anyway, fed him then went back to sleep thinking I'd get about an hour. Woke up at 10.40 with DS still asleep! Feel great for a sleep but then realised I was meant to be going for a walk with another mum at 11, haven't overslept for years and to top it all, I'm still not dressed

Gill I read that you were supposed to wean on veg first after we had been giving DS fruit for ages, oh well he'll probably develop my sweet tooth anyway. Also, my legs are covered in bruises where I get kicked when he's feeding!

Sally love the puppy analogy, ds is boistrous too! My mum (bless her says it's 'cos he's a boy, 'and they are different you know'), i think it's prob because they start to work out abouyt their world about now so it's all v exciting!

Bessie, agreen with beeny, they have just started to differentiate between people. DS alawys cries when we see MIL but i think thats 'cos she puts her face up too close to his (i've trained him well, she makes me want to scream too ). It gets worse for some babies towards 8/9 months, dd1 was ok with others but dd2 wasn't.

Fab lie in alkar

Ds was ok with just dummy again last night but i still have to settle him. Only woke once though, so i think all the times i have fed him has just prolonged the process. He will have to move to his own room soon otherwise i think he will get too 'knowing' and he wont adjust to it well. Am putting it off because at the moment dd1 sleeps in his room when she comes over and if he's in there i'll have to clear out the study and buy a sofa bed! I think that could be this weekend's job, want to get it done soon before work starts again and i have no life at all!

Hi all, nice to read your news.
Bean - I so empathise with the 'hi I don't know you at all but can you look after my baby' scenario! But you will get to know them pretty fast!
I am at the gym at the moment and waiting patiently for DD1 to finish her workout. I only managed a few laps of the pool!
I am trying to abstain from giving LO the boob at all today - she reluctantly takes a bottle when she is desperate!
Gotta go - DD1 is here!

After about ten weeks' trying I have lost a pound!

Also had a lie-in - 9am - although there were three night-time feeds.

Bean are you back to work soon?

Glad to hear I'm not the only one black & blue. LO has gone into overdrive with his energy levels. Today's trick is trying to launch himself head-first out of my arms. Have been walking him a bit and he's taking some proper steps!(Holding onto my hands) Am very proud and give him a big cuddle every time

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Hi

Gill - back to work in November but the control freak in me just wanted to get this sorted as it's not the sort of thing I want to leave to chance/the last minute. It's great not having to fret about it any more.

I only lose weight now when I am ill. Fortunately, I seem to be ill on a regular basis at the moment!!

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It's going to rain all day which has scuppered the plans we had for meeting friends in the park. Am not at all anxious about how the day is going to pan out, no, not at all, that's not bothering me in the slightest, no worries on that front.....

Just updating my weight.

Lo up 4 times last night - something is definitely bothering him.

Got ds1 school shoes yesterday. He was very chuffed with them - when I went in to check on him last night he had them in bed with him.

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Awww rozzy thats sooo cute!!!

sallyforth - your pics are lovely, he is such a cutie!

DD2 has had a terrible rash since saturday which I thought was a heat rash at first. It ended up spreading over her entire body so I took her to the docs yesterday, predictably they were useless.
Despite her being fine apart from the rash they advised giving her calpol to which I replied that she hated it. The doc suggested sneaking it into her drinks. I said 'Well, she's breastfed and although I do really like calpol I don't think that will work'. The nurse guy in with us thought this was very amusing, the doctor didn't. They also had to ask if she's usually bright red.
In the end they had idea what was happening and just said to bring her back if she got worse. Useless doctors. At least DD2 is her normal happy self even if she is bright red!

Hello everyone still on here.
Its been months since i posted, just don't get time. I have name changed I was Lailasmum-since I am not just laila's mum any more I decided to change names. I spotted this thread in the active conversations today so though I would drop in.

I have read the last couple of pages, all sounds very familiar. Toben is in one of those scrambly babies, forever atempting to scramble up me to grab some part of my anatomy, mostly chewing my chin but he also like to chew my lips! He's learnt to sit unaided and doing lightening fast rolling-he's definitely more physical than my dd was. He is also going through a bit of a phase where he is odd with people. Loves me, happy with my mum but fidgity and unsettled with DH who he doesn't see much because he works away in the week. If he is with him he likes me to be in the room.

I've been giving him a little bit of solids for a few weeks after he started nicking my food, ended up doing quite a mixture of puress and BLW type techniques to see what would work, seems like he prefers the BLW style. Likes big things to grab and munch.

Toben is also pretty big, he's wearing 9-12month clothes, he is really long. I think he's about 18lb now.

Since I last posted we struggled with Thrush for a few months, was making breast feeding hard but eventually got rid of it. He also went through a really nice phase of sleeping well but that feels like its in the distant past, he doesn't sleep a lot now. Just a couple of 10-20 minute sleeps in the day so I'm feeling a bit knackered.

I am going to make a point of coming on here now. Its nice to hear about all the babies when the last time I posted on this thread must have been birth announcement time.

hi dartmoormama - nice to see you back!

wd on the weightloss bean - both you and egg now beaten target weight .

also wd rozzy. It is so cute hearing about your babies getting ready for school!

DS sat and watched an entire cycle of the washing machine today so i got loads done. I also discovered that orange peel quarterss are great for teething however he came up in a rash around his mouth so guess I'd better not do it again.

Lucy hope your LO becomes less red soon!

Nice to see you dartmoor!

Lucy, dare i say it.... could it be teething? we tend to put every snuffle and rash donw to that here but if the're otherwise ok it seems the only answer. Did laugh at calpol, bf comment

Had ds weighed today 21 lb 71/2oz, he is also in 9-12 months clothes(especially vests, as he is so long).

Took him to a baby sensory session run by health visitors, he quite liked it but it was a bit 'sensory overload' tbh. And (bad mummy alert)i tried to stop another baby from touching a light that was hot and ds fell backwards and hit his head - he was sitting on the floor, sometimes he can sit for a while, other times he flops backwards. He is not a happy munchkin right now. Bit of a dilemma that one, i guess i should have just let the other baby touch it and find out...mmmm...bit of a no win situation

Found out today that my boss left work 10 days ago and hasn't been back since. Nobody knows why - except the big bosses, all very hush hush. Bit worried how this affects me going back and the hours I want to work etc (I know very selfish), going to work tomorrow to see if I can suss it out.

Rozzy - my friends sister-in-law goes to bed with her new shoes on her pillow now and she's well into her 30s!

Ooohhh I am missing being able to post on here every day all day. DH still not fixed computer so just popping on quickly in eve.

Dartmoormama welcome back. Everyone says my DS2 is really big but he is less than 18lbs so 21lbs is really quite a good size! DS2 is wearing a mixture of 3-6 month stuff (only t-shirts really still fit) and 6-9 month stuff.

DD, on the other hand, is still mainly in 0-3 month stuff, with a few 3-6 month things mainly because they are summer dresses and I am determined to get some wear out of them before it is winter again! She can even still fit into a few newborn things. Now that I know she is healthy I quite like the fact she is so petite, it makes her even cuter (she is esp cuter now she sleeps and doesn't cry 80% of the day).

DS2 gets rashy round his face esp mouth area when he eats, but it goes away quickly and I haven't managed to pinpoint it. I thought it was if I ever used a baby wipe on his face but definitely not that. He even gets it when he just has formula so as it doesn't seem to bother him I am not worrying.

Lucy an all over rash is probably a bit more worrying, although both mine have had little pinprick type rashes all over recently, esp on tummy, but it definitely seems to be heat rash for them, and they are not red, just a bit spotty!

Still no sitting here. DD sits beautifully on my lap where she is kind of in the groove between my legs, but neither can sit on their own on floor. I think DS2 might be able to but he just leans forward always to eat his toes. They are v funny when on the floor together as he keeps trying to eat DDs toes. He is also a right little climber and pincher. He grabs my bingo wings and pinches v hard, and also got my mum's "turkey neck" which she was not amused about!

We have had a lovely day, although nothing outstanding. DS2 slept from 6:20pm last night to 6:55am this morning without a sound, and DD slept from 6:50pm to 6:40am with only a brief squeak, so that put me in a good mood. Then we all went out to the swings this afternoon and DS1 had a great time splashing in the puddles. Then we bumped into two local mums I know also at the swings, so DS1 was delighted as he could play with their children as he knows them quite well now. Came home happy and all three ate huge suppers which always makes me happy!

I don't want to jinx it but I think the night nanny getting DD to sleep better at night has helped the day routine as (touch wood) they sleep about 9am for an hour and about 12:15pm for two hours, which is really helping me knowing what I am doing and when I can plan to leave the house / feed them etc.

Sorry hope I do not sound dull / smug / gloaty, just so relieved after months of crappy days. Bet if I take that test again now I wont be scoring 16 .

Alkar I too would be worried about me if I was in your situation. I loved my old boss and got on really well with him so if that was him I would be worried about him as well, but any other bosses in the past I wouldn't have really cared, just be concerned for my own job. I know they have to give you your same job back or one identical (or something) and I am sure it will be ok but still something you don't need to be worrying about.

Wondering now what has happened to your boss though!

Right, am also very very excited about our meet up on Thursday. I don't know whether i am looking forward to meeting the mums or the babies most!

Hi everyone!

Lucy - lol at your calpol and bf comment. Hope your dd's rash disappears soon.

Hi dartmoor - glad things going well.

Gill - lol at your lo watching the entire washing cycle! You might have to be careful when he's on the move though - he might decide to put things in the machine to wash if he's fascinated by it!

Alkar - I'm glad my ds isn't the only one who keeps their new shoes on their pillows! He has always loved getting new shoes - he said to the lady in the shop yesterday that he was going to try all 3 pairs on then make his 'decision'. She said it was usually the girls that were fussy. I'm sure everything will be fine with your job but it's natural to worry.

Ginger - you're definitely not a bad mummy. What was the other babys mum doing when it was trying to touch the light?

Egg - it sounds like you have a fab routine now. I'm still lucky if ds3 sleeps for any more that 30/45 mins at a time during the day. I'm going to find it quite hard when the other 2 go back to nursery/school as he'll probably sleep when I drop them off, when I pick ds2 up from nursery and again when I pick ds1 up from school so I probably won't get any time in the house with him sleeping so it'll be hard to get things done. Hopefully once he's got over whatevers bugging him at the moment I might be able to put him down now and again!

I took lo to be weighed today - he's 17lbs 5 so right on the 50th centile line. I wanted to ask the hv what cream to use on his neck under his chin as it's really rashy and red (due to the constant chewing and drooling I think). Anyway she told me to use sudocrem so I'll see if that works. I'm hoping for a better night tonight after the 4 feeds last night but he's been grumpy all day so not too confident. On a positive note I'm going to see my friend from work tomorrow so the kids can play with her 2 and I'm off to Edinburgh on Saturday to see 2 friends that I trained with - one whose baby is 6 weeks younger than mine - so really looking forward to that too

Hiya girlies. Thought I'd pop in to say hi to you all. I was originally at Feb lady too but DTs turned up early just making Jan by the skin of their teeth.
Hope you are all well. I have no hope of catching up on what I have missed but will try and make amends from now on.

Hi Merley- how are you babies doing- its good tyo hear from you again- we were only saying last week about how many we dont see on here now-

Please come abck to join us!!!! if of course u have the time-

Hi everyone hope all well xxxx