FEB 08- Sore nips and no naps continued!!!!

[sarahmikeharryandrosie]

Hi Ladies thought i wouls open the thread but i have no imagination- hence the title!!!!

Hello all,
Well I joined the sleep is for the weak thread and lo! DS slept for 4 hours straight! think he might even have slept for longer but I accidentally woke him up while getting ready for bed!

am still rather sleepy, still in dressing gown though LO is resplendent in lime-green and yellow stripes (better than it sounds)

DS christening is at the end of Sept - so cant get him an outfit yet in case he grows out of it / doesnt grow into it. (who knows what his weight will do once we start weaning?)

princess - hope your friend's engagement went well

omy - wow! that your LO is crawling! you will have to childproof the house pronto!

rozzy - lol at 5 month growth spurt!

sarah - look forward to seeing the photos from the wedding!

beany - my hair is falling out loads too - not helped by DS sudden fascination for pulling it, quite hard!

right had better get in the shower or we will never make it to church

hullo all. large doses of ibuprofen and i am a changed woman. we got tennants for our flat yesterday so hopefully will have dh around now that he doesnt have to do any more DIY on it.

i dont know who else was thinking about the new haircut, but bean i too am v tempted to do something drastic. feel like such a scruffball. put make up on this morning which is v unusual for me. when not working seems v easy to live in trackies and pjs all day.

gill, i did smile when i saw princess's comment about how impressed she is at how much stuff you do with lo. i always think that too. you sound v Competent-With-A-Captial-C .

rozzy, no i dont drive. i am rubbish. i quit after half a dozen lessons when i was seventeen. my instructor told me that it was probably a good thing as i was the worst person he'd ever taught and then he went on to tell me about this person he'd taught who only had use of one arm and one leg. apparently even he was better than me. going to make life easier on myself and learn on an auto this time. had a few lessons five years ago and enjoyed it much more. would have taken test then if i hadnt met DH and his car!

princess at ferdie only sleeping on your chest. even the thought of that makes me want to leave home. know what you mean re looking forward to a train journey. i am about to get a tram into town on the spurious pretext of getting a battery for my radio.. how did dh cope with looking after the kids while you went to party?

leesmum --- no no no! has to be whiskey in the morning coffee evening cocoa ....

sally - lol there is a breakaway group of sleep is for the weak in the meet ups section. apparently they now all sleep but wanted to keep in touch with each other.

thursday - gl with the food, and omy too with bottle. hi to all else.

Hi everyone.

Tyaca - we were looking at photos from when ds1 was little the other day and in every single one I had trackies on, hair all over the place and glasses on (normally wear contacts). Dh was having a good laugh at my hair and particularly shabby clothes!

Omy - omg crawling already!! Ds3 is a long way off that. In fact I think he might not crawl at all as he's far happier being on his feet. If I take his hands when he's lying down he pulls himself up to sitting then pushes up onto his feet. Probably quite easy for him since his legs are almost as wide as they are long (also noticed yesterday that his arms are almost as long as his stumpy legs - I have given birth to a monkey).

Good point re hair falling out beany. My hair isn't coming out in clumps but I'm definitely shedding a lot more than usual. So maybe I should wait a bit before getting the thickness thinned out a bit.

Sally - my lo always wakes up when we're going to bed. Think he might sleep for longer when he moves into his own room?

We went to the beach this morning - not my best ever idea. It was pretty windy so sand was blowing everywhere. Lo's face/ears and hair were covered with sand. I also had to feed him so there's lots on sand in my bra now - lovely!! Fulfilled ds1s morbid fascination though as he saw 3 dead crabs and a dead fish!

Omy - crawling! Wow, am so impressed! Ds2 has managed to roll over and roll back!! And that's about it!

Rozzy - my hair is not coming out in clumps but boy the plug hole is a mess!! As I'm getting older my hair seems to be drying out a bit so it would probably just be the kind thing to do to chop it a bit.
Sally - ds2 is pulling on mine too though, which just may have something to do with it!

Egg - hope you are having a good time in Ireland.

Tyaca - hope you get to see more of your dh (although in my world there is a limit to how much of that is A Good Thing!! )

Princess - you sound in fine fettle, hope things are still good with you. Wow, dressed up and on a train - just reading it is making me feel giddy!!

Ds2 is currently sporting a nice bump/bruise combo as he fell off the bed this morning Note to self: rolling over means he can actually move now. Oops. Am actually hoping that dh won't notice. He hasn't so far.

Well done Leila, crawling already, I'm not jealous at all omy. My friend came over with her 1year old last week and I was racing all over the house watching him. So far DS is rolling front to back and back again and is sitting up quite happily

Bad luck with the keys Sarah, hope you enjoy your week off. Have you got anything planned?

Have started weaning DS. He is eating 2 meals a day and so far will eat anything he's given. Has anyone else noticed their LOs puking up watery liquid after a solid feed? DS has always been sick a lot but its always been milk.

Its DSs christening on Sunday. I am now in panic mode. We've got a linen suit for DS too Leesmum, didn't want the traditional gown but theres not much available for boys is there?

Sorry to hear about your cat princess, hope thats the end of your bad run and things start getting better for you all now.

LOL bean at hoping your DH doesnt notice the bruising hope your DS is ok

She's not really crawling! she only moved about 6 inches!! with her face pressed into the carpet and her bum in the air. She hasn't rolled either way yet....

I have been reading all the BLW blogs and info - and watching utube vidoes of clever babies eating huge lumps of broccoli and sweet potato. Am trying to get up the courage to try it as I have a pathological fear of choking!! I think LO was grumpy today due to hunger. She fell asleep crying poor love. I bet she wakes me tonight for some boob!

Alkar - I read something about the watery liquid on babyledweaning.com aitch said that the only time her LO puked after gagging what came out was watery liquid....it was in the 'gagging' topic - you can see I'm obsessed!

Hi all - Sunday night and LO has been asleep for hours, I have a pizza and two large bacardis inside me and watching Supernanny.

Omy - CONGRATS on the crawling. I am of course not jealous either but DP is not happy and has instructed me to make sure LO is crawling by the end of tomorrow . He sticks his bum in the air when he's getting his massage but definitely not got the strength to move or push his chest up yet.

Tyaca - nice to see you back. It must be a lot for you to get used to. I grew up in the country but would still find it very hard to leave the 24 hour grocery shops, public transport, friends around the corner etc that we've got in London although I am also jealous of your new country life. Well done for coping with virus as well.

Thanks for the poo story LO is now on proper solid poos and on Friday did one that was so big it took two flushes to disappear (no not toilet trained just yet but washable nappies getting emptied) Sent DP a picture of it at work - he didn't really appreciate it much though.

Sally - good for you for making some more RL friends. Backpack dispatch delayed - grrr - hope it's here in time for next weekend.

Princess and Sarah - hope the engagement / wedding parties went well - sounds fun! Would love a new dress and night out by myself. Princess glad you and DH finding some together time as well. Children in bed by 630 is good!

We took LO to a wedding near Oxford yesterday - it was lovely cause a lot of my climbing friends (was a climbing wedding)have got new babies too. LO was the first baby to be taken out of the church though - in the past we've been so critical of parents who let their children ruin wedding services so there was no way we were going to let him squeak through the vows.

Bean - hope DS2 ok. When LO did his plummet from the bed I considered long and hard whether to own up to DP (and his mum!) but decided I'd better just in case he went cross eyed or anything later on and need to go to hospital!

Well my little man is just fab at the moment - he's doing so much and getting so excited and happy about things. We stayed at my parents last night on the way back from wedding and they're just besotted with him (as are we of course). Sleeping is a bit better and progressing slowly with the solids.

What a long post. Good night xx

Hello!

LO still can't really sit up/roll but has been making determined efforts to crawl (trying to stick bum in air)... unfort only succeeds in inching backwards which makes him v frustrated!!

tyaca at your driving instructor! can't believe he would be so rude!!! I was rubbish too age 17 and then I got to uni and started cycling everywhere and something clicked in the bit of my brain that judges traffic speed etc and suddenly I was Much Better at driving despite not doing any while I was at uni.

Anyway I think the point of that little story was to illustrate how you can mysteriously get better at driving without having to actually do any .

beany/alkar - impressed at LO rolling both ways! my LO seems to have forgotten how to roll at all!

omy - am also excited about trying BLW. when are you starting?

Gill - lol at climbing wedding - brings up strange mental pictures of congregation dangling from ropes halfway up a wall!

On a loosely related topic, I took LO to church yesterday (the "family" service). He was fairly quiet all the way through but during the Lords prayer that everybody says together he decided to join in loudly with his best creaky door impression!

Hello ladies!

Made it to Devon, had a good time but i think my mum probably got fed up with me ringing every five mins to see hoe dad is! Weather not brill but good to get away.

Thanks for all the lovely messagdes about dad. they wont complain but i guess thats up to them. I did complain to gp who said she speak to doctor who told him to rest and take pain killers. dad recovering slowly though wound looks a bit infected. Nurse came out yesterday and told them to put iodine on it. i'D have thought antibiotics would be better! Anyway will have to wait and see. Thanks princess for info about your dad, hopefully dad will feel no long term effects.

Egg, hos Ireland? Did night nanny arrive? Is it a success?

Thanks for info about boob prefernce, I've all but dried up that side and now do a mix of bottle and breast plus solids ( iwas giving the odd bottle before but more so now).

Gill, if you have trouble with constipation (LO not you!) try dilute orange juice, it worked for toby wheb he wouldnt/couldnt go!

Sarah - ooch re keys what a pain! and am with you on Farleys, what a con. Have family on Farleys alert, dd2 got me some in lidl the other day.

OMY am impressed with crawling! DS still hasn't rolled again and has no teeth though he's been 'teething' for months. Has woken up with runny nose today and very stinky bum so am hoping at least that mile stine will be reached soon!

Am off to shops with dd2 whenb she gets bacj from driving lesson.
Have a good day!

apologies for spelling have v wrigly ds on knee!!

Hello ladies- had a fantastic day at the wedding yesterday- (pics on profile) The weather was good although went chilly in the evening-

My parents came to collect the DS's and took them home to bed so dh and i stayed out til 1am!!!!! mom and dad were fast asleep by then!!!lol

Hope all well xxxx

Bad mummy alert.

I left DS sat up on the sofa while I went to peg his nappies out. Heard him crying so came to check on him and he was lying on the floor. I feel so bad. I know its the first of many bumps but just wish I hadn't done something so stupid Just shows you how fast they learn how to do things.

Eek, I've been attempting to catch up but I'm hopeless - sorry!
I seem to be losing lots of hair, I remember it happening after DD1 so I'm not too worried, it's just a bit weird.
I'm getting a coil fitted next month which will put my mind at ease. I had the swabs done last week and a suprise smear test at the same time. I really haven't missed having my bits poked around by nurses.
I've been offering DD2 a smidge of banana each week but so far she's just thrusting it out of her mouth so we'll wait a bit longer. She loves watching us eat though.
No teeth as yet, a bit of accidental rolling and no sitting up unsupported. We're also back to co-sleeping after her sleeping habits got worse and I can honestly say we're all much happier only waking up once/twice a night.

lol omy - as i read you post about fear of gagging, i was just about to say that aitch recommends a baby first aid class to calm the nerves, but realise you've prob read everything she's written already! i did not know about the youtube blw vids, will go hunt out.

glad malcom's sleeping a bit better now gill. i did empathise with the 2hrs to get to sleep stuff. dd only used to be like that a couple of times a week, now only maybe once but its still a struggle. after two nights of sleeping through, dd decided again at half three that sleep is for losers. luckily dh was on duty. it really made me laugh, as she yelped and started crying after half an hour of persiant hello-i'm-here noises, he finally got out of bed, but not before asking me in all seriousness whether NOW might be a good time to move her into her own room.

sally - dd does a fab creaky door too! its got a slightly witch like cackle to it too. actually, now i am attuned to it, babies everywhere seems to doing it.

ginger, glad you got away and glad your dad on the mend. take it he's out of hospital now.... and a lo on lap is a much better excuse for the spelling that mine which is that sometimes i just have no idea....

sarah -- ooh, more pics, looks like a lovely day and rosies looks lovely in the photo in her chair.

alkar, i reckon at the best thing about mumsnet is reading about other people's babies rolling off things. dd not yet mobile enough, but am equipped to not feel too bad when it happens. isnt it telling that we've had two babies roll themselves off things in a week? i reckon we might have a next title thread in there somewhere.

lucy - i know what you mean re catching up on the thread. i had no idea how daunting it could be til now! ugh, smear. and poking around. leasr there's only the fitting to go.

sarah- love the pix!
Alkar- you're right, first of many falls, sounds like all ok though! try not to stress it happens to us all

tyaca who's aitch?
alkar don't worry about the guilt although i know exactly what you mean. we seem to spend our lives suddenly sitting up in bed hearing roaring crying from downstairs when one of us has forgotten to turn the monitor on and have left him getting hungrier and hungrier.
gingermumi glad to have you back. good to hear your dad is doing better. brilliant that you got a bit of a break. how's the cincilla?
lucy i've got to get a coil fitted too just can't face having the conversation with the bossy receptionist at the health clinic-do you have to go at a particular time of the cycle and do you have to wait til you've had several periods or anything.
sally i took ds to church too. he also did the loud noises throughout. i was really saying my prayers when his obscene pooing noises were drowned out by booming hymn. sadly couldn't disguise the horrific smell.(babies on neocate formula are social pariahs)
today has floored me. had agonising conversation with patient northern irish sky plus employee whilst trying to stop dd sticking her finger in the plug socket. eg. 'martha, what are the weather conditions like outside? do you have dry hands? can you take out the scart plug and the something something cables, right now what does the picture look like?' fgs, what a load of cr*p. obviously found the source of the problem when searching for the electricity supply for box and accidently pulled the arial out with no end on it, just wires. hah! i solved the problem, now we don't have to worry about picture quality because there is no picture. have just said goodbye to the cheery carpet fitters who had been here all day and still not finished in either dd or ds's room at bath time-couldn't reach bath either. had to put them both down in hastily reassembled dd's room. she then woke him up by singing loudly. then had nowhere to go to get him to sleep. she kept trying to play peekaboo with me and chat about the bad boys in the playground whilst i tried to shush her without ferdie waking more. i don't think i ever want to have them share a room, a spare room is not worth it. he started gurgling at her and the 2 of them looked so cheeky. anyway finally down and out. will have to get him out of her room before the 4am feed. pita if she wakes then too.
dh still not home and i've gone past hunger but too lazy/comatose to get up and cook. can only assume the tory party are self combusting-why else would dh not responded to cry for help at 7.30 and 8.30 whist i wrestled with lo's. and no tv to drown my sorrows. wasn't going to have a drink but now i'm thinking what tomorrow holds-mil,more carpet men, sky technician, dd's vaccination, ds consultation with reflux specialist, more cat doctoring-i think i'll have a Large one. but look-am still smiling

LOL princess. Large drink required! Good luck tomorrow.

Try not to feel too bad Alkar - EVERYONE does it and lots of people do much worse.

Hi Lucy!

Omy, I think BLW might be the way to go. I was out for a picnic the other day with a friend who has an 8 month old baby. Baby picked up and stuffed in sandwiches, potatoes, carrot sticks, you name it. I was so impressed, and he didn't gag or choke at all. Mind you, the mess is appalling, fine for a picnic but they are actually having all meals in the garden! My DD is not interested in purees and hasn't got the idea of finger foods at all yet, but she was a month early so even though she's 6 months I think I'll just keep offerring her food every few days and see what she does with it. Must buy a highchair.

Tyaca, where have you moved to?

Oops, DD making pre-crying snuffling noises, better go feed her.

I CAN'T CATCH UP.........

Just about recovered from night out in Ireland.

Trying to keep up with you. Hoped I could slot back in without much trouble but you talked too much. I was too scared to try yesterday!

Anyway, looks like my DD is another one to outdo the night nanny....... still going strong screaming for an hour or so each night. DS2 is at it too.

Gah.

Thankyou for reassuring me that I'm not that bad a mummy. DS was fine all day yesterday but I checked on him a lot in the night

Welcome back egg, hope you had a good time in ireland. How long is the night nanny with you?

Bad day yesterday princess! Hope things go ok with MIL.

Had a look at the wedding pics sarah, you all look lovely. Like the one with Harry and the couples daughter.

alkar can I join your Flying Babies Club? this morning DS was playing happily on the floor, I'm trying to get him to sit up (impatient to start weaning? moi?) and he sat balanced there for all of 5 seconds... when he suddenly fell forward and his face hit the floor CRASH. Cue much terrified screaming!

Wouldn't have been so bad if it wasn't our very first outing to the NCT postnatal group at the time. They are probably all reporting me to social services as we speak.

Oh no sally! At least there was only me to see DSs first tumble

Hi Princess! Chinchilla doing fine! LOL, had to buy it a stone today to sit on, to stop it overheating (you chill it in the fridge- the stone not the chinchilla ). A day in your house sounds crazy but then we have days like that sometimes too! Hope things a little calmer now.

Am off to phone heinz to complain about price of new milk - old one says committed to fair pricing....I don't thinK so! will let youknow what happens.

Re: Coil - i had to have swabs for chlamydia and gonorrea ( I hope I spelt those right!) and it has to be done on the fifth day of your cycle. My period haven't returned so I had a pregnancy test instead.

Hello Gil!

No hope of catching up for me as I don't even have time to sort out my house which is still full of boxes (and I moved over a month ago )

alkar - I have done so many things like that I daren't own up. Needless to say both dd's have survived relatively intact so far, in fact I consider dd2's rough handling by dd1 to be quite useful. She's so used to it that she recovered from the pain of her jabs today in a matter of seconds.