January 08 shiny new - year babys , tired mums and dads!

[lilyloo]

Will that do

Fluffy - big hugs to you and your DH, so sad and sudden!

Lilyloo - I really feel for your SIL...its every pregnant woman's nightmare

Hi Lucky and Mixedmama - missed you both

TMS - glad to hear you're feeling better.

Can't remember who it was looking for a post-pg wrap dress to hide all the bumps and bulges (Naetha?) - but I saw some fab jersey ones at Wallis in various colours (black, green, brown and a print), and of course have ended up buying the black (so boooring ).

I have only put on 6kgs since my pre-preg weight. Why then do NONE of my clothes fit me? Can barely squeeze into my baggy sweatpants. So of those of you who are back in your size tens!! (was that you lilyloo?)

{{{feet tickles to all our babies!}}}, just to hear the squeals and gurgles.

Evening ladies.
Just a quick question. Who has started their periods already? I just feel pre mental all the bloody time and its realy getting me down. I just wish something would happen one way or another iykwim? Im going to see my gp on Friday and might ask to go on the mini pill or something for a couple of cycles just to get things kick started . Might get my libido started too. Poor dh hes a very patient man.
Went to a soft playcentre this afternoon and saw 2 very pregnant ladies. Made me very broody. I told dh and he laughed and said 'thats ashame isn't it?'

hi all

excuse lack of capitals - typing while bf!

not been on for a while as was away in wales at the weekend to introduce ds to family. it went really well and he was a darling. we stayed in a hotel and i was worried whether it would disturb hus sleeping. we took his moses basket and on the friday he slept his longest stretch ever - 12pm to 4.45 am! it was a one off though..

bluebell - totally sympathise with the whole bf thing. i am constantly having an internal argument with myself. sometimes i want to switch to bottles to have some sort of time back but then feel guilty. i originally planned to do 6 months which would have taken me to end of july but now planning to start bottles 1st may at dh's suggestion. like angechica suggested i think i will drop one feed at a time so it's not too much of a shock - for him and me. had to laugh at your starbucks comment - i've been trying to be brave and feed whilst out. on monday i was feedibg him in costa coffee with a muslin over him when he unlatched and then pulled the muslin off exposing my nipple! hope no one saw...

naetha - my ds also has problems with poo in the morning. he really struggles and whines til it comes out and then is happy to play. he also does that thing of hitting himself and somtimes also claws himself which i find very upsetting.

can i ask a question - on an earlier post someone mentioned fennel increasing their milk supply and expressing 12oz instead of 8oz. i was a bit shocked when i read that as the most i have ever got is 2.5oz and that's a good day. am i not producing enough?

kel x

Bluebell - us on aptamil too - really felt much better myself we had loads of problems and charlie doing just fine on it so dont worry. I have big boobs too i went almost cold turkey and just expressed enough to relieve the tension.

have seen gp further course of anti biotics not worked for the bartholyn cyst so am going to see consultant and probably will have small op i expect very annoying.

chalrie generally sleeping really well 2 x 5-6 hour stretches with maybe a feed at 2 am except when done mammoth poos!! But in quite a good routine where she is in bed between 6.30-7.30 nearly every night if i possibly can.

means not much social life but happy baby and baby sitter if we go out in the evening

morning all
Kelly i the same have only ever got 2.5 oz at once and usually only make up one 40z bottle over the day. Although i can feed dd after i have expressed so there must be more milk there Everyone different i guess , i just have tp plan ahead if i need more than one bottle but most times i can't be bothered to ebm it takes too long.
Thanks for sympathy all , my gran is coming out of hospital this eve to stay with my dad , am at this guess they need the beds . She only allowed out if someone can stay with her so will be doing some of that.
Anyone else lo suffer from sore skin in their creases. HV came yesterday and told me to make doc apt for lo as her's is quite angry and seems to be getting worse.

Kel - you're producing fine - some people just find expressing difficult. Different pumps suit different people, also the electric pumps are better. I've got a cheap Tommee Tippee one and manage from 1 - 2.5 oz max each time. Your baby is much more efficient and getting the milk than a pump is

Sooo tempted by the bottle - it's just laziness holding me off now! (ie another thing to wash up, then having to remember to sterilise!)

Tempted by bottles too, but no way I am going to give in until at least three months. With Nathan possibly still busy fixing brain damage he needs to have breast milk and I have a great supply. I really enjoy feeding, but he is having an exhausting growth spurt where he seems to drink both sides dry then is ready to start all over again . Also this thing of waking for a feed around 4.30-5am and not being willing to go back to sleep....help I need a routine! Have ordered the baby whisperer and am waiting for delivery. How do you persuade a waky baby to lie in his cot and sleep? Grrr.

madmouse - I have no idea! please tell me if you find out Daniel also has nights when he wants to play from 3am-5am. Somehow he saves all his biggest and best smiles for those times too

henry has best smiles at about 5am too
last night feeds at 1 and 5am.
then tom up from 5.15 - tho dh made it back late last night so he got up with both boys, i turned off monitor and hid under duvet for another hour
and dh made it back in time for stories tonight too, hooray
feeling exceptionally tired and frazzled today, don't know why really.

no periods here yet, thank goodness, no libido either, think the minipill will help??? have prescription just haven't got it yet.

have we had our 3 bits of bad news then? grans(hope your dad can manage caring for your gran?), FILs (so sorry to hear that fluffy, hope your dh is bearing up) and SILs (how awful), let's hope so.

still bfding here, pretty determined that i will carry on until 1, except for christmas when i might want more than just a small drink for the first time in years
as henry sleeps so well from 7ish to 1 or 2 i am allowing myself a proper glass of wine with dinner instead of my stingy sensible half a glass every now and then

right, aiming for really early night as dh out, tho addicted to isketch (anyone else?) and am tempted to go back for another few games....

Katy1 thats exactly what Im going to my gp for tommorrow to see if I can get the mini pill to get things going. Not for protection cause dh has had the snip but I just feel kinda stuck. Ive been feeling pre mental for a couple of weeks now and just wish something would happen one way or another. Plus I want my libido back too. Poor dh he can only be patient a certain length of time bless him.
Changed lo to Aptimil today as he was struggeling badly to bring his wind up and my sil suggested it. Not sure if its made any difference as yet though as hes only had one bottle of it so far.
Has everyone seen the meet up photo? Sorry there arent many. Will try to take more next time

i like the photos

yes gingeme, dh hasn't mentioned it but i feel time is ticking by, getting near 10 weeks and i jut don't feel like it
not helped by going to bed at diff times and falling asleep before he comes upstairs. but i also feel unattractive and fat
walking more now tho and into one pair of 14s so hoping to get fit/thin soon.
again dh not said anything and he prob wouldn't notice but i would....

after ds1 i didn't have this feeling at all, maybe it's the combo of knackered-ness with 2??? (or more than 2 in your case!)

Posted "herewww.mumsnet.com/Talk/8/503463about settling the little fella.

He also tends to want to start playing and cooing at 5am!

Re Baby Whisperer. Beware the stuff she writes about BF - which can be ignored - it is factually inacurate. The most useful lessons for me in it was understanding their crying and cues. After reading it i did get upset for a few days as I could not recognise my boy in any of it. I can now though as he settles and grows.

Althoguh I am knackered I feel today I have had our first virtually tear-free day on Alek's part - and it involved going to BF group and ASDA which used to be really challenging.

10 weeks katy! I don't think we have had sex since the conception of George. Mind you (tmi alert) dh did have a vasectimy and circumsition last October so he didn't realy feel 'up' to it so to speak .
I don't worry about my weight so much now. Ive had 5 babys so Im allowed to be a bit saggy arent I? Im back into my pre preg clothes so Im not realy that bothered.

ok am going to re-read baby whisperer to find the good bits. gave up when I saw the stuff on BF - thought "how can I believe the rest when the one thing I know about is so wrong" iyswim. also couldn't understand the cues stuff as one of her tired cues seemed to be daniel's hungry cues. but anything that could help is worth another go!

I used to watch her on erm one of the cable channels and I do use one of her methods which is called pick up put down. Where if a baby, bit older than out lo's cry of a night basicaly you pick them up calm them and put them back in there cot and keep doing it till they settle again. I found it very useful alot of times and it realy works. Its probably mentioned in her book. I never liked her bed time routien though. Ive always done bath,bottle/breast, bed. Again its alway worked for me. But then I think you learn different things as you go on. What a difference between ds1 and ds5

hello all!

So sorry i havnt been on for ages and i missed the meet up, but George has had a stinking cold, and alot of breathing issues (ie he cant!). Then he had his second lot of jabs today and has been really upset....apart from that he is doing really well. over 15lb now and is normally a really happy baby.
I have tried to read thorugh this post, but there is alot, so will just say his to everyone, and hope the feeding sleeping issues get better.
All is good with me, for those that were on the ante natal site, Georges dad never answered my calls or messages, so have moved on. Not that i wnated him back, but would have been nice for George to know him. I have however started seeig a guy i have known for a couple of years!! We have been friends, met on a yoga holiday in Ibiza, but have grown closer and we will see where it goes, he is great with George though and i really like him, so its a good start!
IM hlaf and half feeding with breast and Aptimil now, trying to decrease the milk supply withough exploding! Thats going ok and George is now nearly 13 weeks! I have also found a gym locally that has a creche! Have checked it out and the Ofsted report, so might try a trial session and see how it goes.
Bigs hugs to everyone, will try and get on more often, but never seems to be enough time! xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Hi Beller, great to hear from you. Sounds like your doing realy well. New guy sounds fab. Hope it lasts. Hope youll be posting a bit more often now too. Hope George is on the mend too xxx

Gingeme - Had my period at 6 wks and first proper nookie at end of same week. Have to say I'd been going out of my mind with frustration so, whilst it wasn't the best we've ever had IYKWIM, it was a huge release and did make me feel more normal again. Haven't exactly been at it like rabbits since either, but at least we know we can!!

SO CROSS - just did massive post catching up with everyone and server failed!!!!
Have as long as it takes Cerys to get fed up with baby gym which she has been on for 20 mins already.

Grand to see everyone at meet up - couldn't get over how together and well we all looked and how different all our babies looked - real little individuals. Thanks for lovely compliment about Cerys gingeme - your boys are all so red-headedly GORGEous too.

Am having a real purple patch with cerys. She has just stared sleeping thru from 11 to 6.30/7am and I am soo proud of her. She woke up at 6.15 am and even got herself back to sleep. She seems quite a grave little soul on occasions tho have had some lovely smiles today as well as one massive temper fit when I wasn't guessing needs right.

Sorry to read of lily and fluffy's sadness. Grand to see Nathan thriving. V impressed beller seeing new man.

Haven't had period yet but dh has got me past my feeligns re stretch marks and jelly belly and back in the groove so to speak!

Bluebell - am mixed feeding. Struggled to get to 6 weeks - noone said how hard it would be after a cs to bf and found it hard work as C didn't put on much weight. Feel proud of getting to 6 weeks but then gradually introduced ff at a time until now just doing 7am and 5.30pm feed which really works for us. She loves speed of a bottle and I cdn't express for toffee. She is thriving and I have life back and am able to be confident to impose some sort of routine which seems to make her happier too - see sleeping !! Do what you need to and be proud you have got this far. Aptamil works for us v wel and is what the HV said was closest to bf.

Love to all - have nice weekends. Is Mrs McJnr ever about any more?

Hola ladies,

Have just caught up. So sorry to hear all the bad news floating around, hope that these hard times improve soon.

Had a bit of a breakthrough with DH last night. His dad came back from bangladesh last night and I had to get a bus to in laws and went in my new Asian suit that my SIL got for me and DH was very happy and impressed I had made the effort. I think he has finally understood that if he just leaves me alone with things I will make the effort when i see fit, but when he bugs me or his mum bugs me about these things I just automatically refuse and rebell.

On the other point have a BIL moan FREE TO SWITCH OFF UNTIL NEXT PARAGRAPH. We currently only have a van so only 3 seats so cannot all egt anywhere together. BIL was at MILs last night and we were going home and he has a car, and he was going out from there apparently and when DH asked him if he could help drop us home (all of 5 minutes drive) he refused, so DH took the children and I had to get a bus. DH clearly felt bad as when I was on my way he called to say we could put DS1 on my lap (er we cant, but anyway). Was really annoyed, especially as all the bloody family go on and on about respect for older siblings and by those rules BIL should have just done as DH asked as he is older. Brought it up with DH in a very calm conversation and said I wanted him to ask BIL to move out again, will see what happens.

On a funny, but also somewhat sadder note I asked DH if he actually likes BIL and he said "I dont know cos we dont talk do we"... made me laugh but also very sad that their relationship cannot be better.

Beller - great to hear from you, pleased to hear about your new man.

Any news from Amani, might text her and see whats happenign.

Hi all,

Coming to the end of the week from hell, thank you all for your sympathy and good wishes. FIL passed away very suddenly on Sunday, funeral was on Monday afternoon and dh has been sitting in mourning with his mother and siblings all week whilst I've been the main person looking after them, organising all meals, answering phone etc etc etc. Very fun with an 8 week old baby and 2.5 yr old toddler... Anyway, just the weekend to get through now, then the struggle of returning to 'normal' life. All very upsetting as we are/were very close to my PILs and saw them at least once a week

On a totally separate note, for those of you still bf-ing and finding it hard (or just desperate for sleep!) - Tamara has now gone from 7pm to 7am (and later) with just a bottle of ebm at 11pm for the past week. Last night she didn't even wake once, until 7.15am this morning, 2 nights ago she woke at 6, yelled for a couple of minutes, then I had to wake her up at 8am! So it really can be done!!

Could someone please tell me what the Baby whisperer says thats so wrong about bfing? We've used it for both kids and I wasn't aware of any massive misinformation??

Hope you all have good weekends, the madam is calling so off for the 4pm feed!

xxx

Hi,

Just coming on to say I hope everyone is ok and same for the LOs. Not been on for a while as I have not been too good and having a lot of stuff going on.

Fluffy - so sorry to hear about your FIL. Deepest Sympathies.

Mixedmama - thanks for remember me . at you having to take the bus home. Awaful of your BIL not to bother. Good for you that you bothered to make an effort for your ILs.

Bad night with DD2 last night - up from 2:30 - 6:30am Feel so tired and twice I tried to have a nap and just couldn't fall asleep...

another thing i keep forgetting to post...

from the talk at the meetup, was it fluffy?, a tip for those exploding nappy situations, use the envelope necks to pull the vest DOWN instead of UP and keep the poo limited to the bottom half of LO, instead of spreading it all up their back and head!

obv when you think about it, but haven't found anyone who has heard of it before!

mixedmama - hope your bil bu**ers off soon, grr.

amani - hi there, sorry you've not been great

gingeme - no i meant LO is nearly 10 wks, tho there was some action to encourage him to come out, there wasn't much before that will have to sort it out soon, the longer it goes on (or not, lol) the bigger a deal i feel it is....

fluffy - well done to tamara, hoping for a full night soon....
sounds like you are doing really well with managing everything, bet you are v knackered, hope things ease off soon.
and dh is ok

barristermum - hi there, glad your dh has helped you re self-image...sure mine would be the same if i gave him the chance...mind you am feeling better by the day (helped by walking lots, even in the rain today to playgroup and back), and a friend commented on disappearance of bump today. am into 14's - just

beller - hey there! sad about george's dad, but good news re new bloke. you've known him for a bit then? at least he knows you pre-baby too, if that makes sense.

haven't read baby whisperer...

right, dh out, again, off to bed in a mo, need a bit more food first tho!
hope dh will take over tomorrow as i'm just out of energy this week. wonder if my iron levels are ok? sure a glass of red will help

Evening ladies. So of babys sleeping through. George isnt doing too bad though. He sleeps till 3am then usualy will go back till around 6am which he wakes up straining for a pooh. I have changed his milk to Aptamil now too and this seems to have helped with his burping thank goodness.
Katy1 I went to my gp today to see about getting the pill to jog my periods along but he said its best to let things happen naturaly. Bit peed off with this as I just feel pre mental all the bloody time.
Oh fluffy so sorry to hear your news I hope things can get a bit more normal soon.
Gave the thre boys a bath altogether tonight. ds4 kept wanting to cuddle ds5 and even helped to wash his hair so sweet.
Nothing much planned for the weekend realy. Depends on the weather I guess.
Take care all xx

Me again. Just having a flick through your profile pages and need to ask housemum why do you have a pic og one of the aliens from Toy Story on yours?