January 08 shiny new - year babys , tired mums and dads!

[lilyloo]

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Great stuff Madmouse !!! I thought it would be good news as I thought Nathan is reaching his milestones ahead of my LO and they are the same age, NB I think Alek is getting too chubby to roll over . xxx

madmouse - that is such fabulous news! amazing what the human body can do. Keep proving them wrong nathan !
how was the house hunting? did you manage to find one you like and the woman choosing (sorry forgotten title) likes too???

susie - had a look at photos, lovely
hope you are coping well without dh. even tho my dh is away a lot it still takes some getting used to after having him at home for a bit. i have what i call rising panic that rises higher when it's getting closer to him going away, peaks the night before usually when i'm horrible to him , then disappears when he's actually gone as i just get on with things. silly really.
not that it helps, but if i was left alone now with just one i wouldn't even have the panic at all. wish i could send the current me back to when i just had ds1!

gingeme - hope LO is ok. both boys coughing here, not too bad, just sounds bad when they do it. i started coughing today too
love your photos too, with all your boys

Barristermum - so sorry to hear about your friend it's so horrible for her (& her dh). can't imagine the pain, as you say.
did you have your walk then? i am going to sign up for a 13mile walk in the summer. started new regime today, just a 15min march with both boys in buggy (thank goodness for p&t!). starting small, but planning to walk every day a little bit and build up to longer walks over time. i walk 3 days a week to various baby groups so just need to add 4 other walks.
work so soon? tho some days i would go back to work in a heartbeat i know i don't really mean it. am already worrying about bfding and returning to my (very small part-time) job in sept/oct!

lilyloo - well remembered about lucky's dp and the birth story. hope martha's eczema is ok?

lucky & mixedm - your dp/dhs do sound at times.
lucky - do you think your dp is struggling to come to terms with parenthood? sounds like he is trying to avoid aaliyah and anything to do with looking after her atm. i know it can be a shock but really...
trying to think the best of him do you think he might think he can't look after her? like hs doesn't know what to do for the best but knows you do so wants to let you do it? trying here!

right, waffled on long enough sorry!

madmouse - that is such fabulous news! amazing what the human body can do. Keep proving them wrong nathan !
how was the house hunting? did you manage to find one you like and the woman choosing (sorry forgotten title) likes too???

susie - had a look at photos, lovely
hope you are coping well without dh. even tho my dh is away a lot it still takes some getting used to after having him at home for a bit. i have what i call rising panic that rises higher when it's getting closer to him going away, peaks the night before usually when i'm horrible to him , then disappears when he's actually gone as i just get on with things. silly really.
not that it helps, but if i was left alone now with just one i wouldn't even have the panic at all. wish i could send the current me back to when i just had ds1!

gingeme - hope LO is ok. both boys coughing here, not too bad, just sounds bad when they do it. i started coughing today too
love your photos too, with all your boys

Barristermum - so sorry to hear about your friend it's so horrible for her (& her dh). can't imagine the pain, as you say.
did you have your walk then? i am going to sign up for a 13mile walk in the summer. started new regime today, just a 15min march with both boys in buggy (thank goodness for p&t!). starting small, but planning to walk every day a little bit and build up to longer walks over time. i walk 3 days a week to various baby groups so just need to add 4 other walks.
work so soon? tho some days i would go back to work in a heartbeat i know i don't really mean it. am already worrying about bfding and returning to my (very small part-time) job in sept/oct!

lilyloo - well remembered about lucky's dp and the birth story. hope martha's eczema is ok?

lucky & mixedm - your dp/dhs do sound at times.
lucky - do you think your dp is struggling to come to terms with parenthood? sounds like he is trying to avoid aaliyah and anything to do with looking after her atm. i know it can be a shock but really...
trying to think the best of him do you think he might think he can't look after her? like hs doesn't know what to do for the best but knows you do so wants to let you do it? trying here!

right, waffled on long enough sorry!

madmouse - that is such fabulous news! amazing what the human body can do. Keep proving them wrong nathan !
how was the house hunting? did you manage to find one you like and the woman choosing (sorry forgotten title) likes too???

susie - had a look at photos, lovely
hope you are coping well without dh. even tho my dh is away a lot it still takes some getting used to after having him at home for a bit. i have what i call rising panic that rises higher when it's getting closer to him going away, peaks the night before usually when i'm horrible to him , then disappears when he's actually gone as i just get on with things. silly really.
not that it helps, but if i was left alone now with just one i wouldn't even have the panic at all. wish i could send the current me back to when i just had ds1!

gingeme - hope LO is ok. both boys coughing here, not too bad, just sounds bad when they do it. i started coughing today too
love your photos too, with all your boys

Barristermum - so sorry to hear about your friend it's so horrible for her (& her dh). can't imagine the pain, as you say.
did you have your walk then? i am going to sign up for a 13mile walk in the summer. started new regime today, just a 15min march with both boys in buggy (thank goodness for p&t!). starting small, but planning to walk every day a little bit and build up to longer walks over time. i walk 3 days a week to various baby groups so just need to add 4 other walks.
work so soon? tho some days i would go back to work in a heartbeat i know i don't really mean it. am already worrying about bfding and returning to my (very small part-time) job in sept/oct!

lilyloo - well remembered about lucky's dp and the birth story. hope martha's eczema is ok?

lucky & mixedm - your dp/dhs do sound at times.
lucky - do you think your dp is struggling to come to terms with parenthood? sounds like he is trying to avoid aaliyah and anything to do with looking after her atm. i know it can be a shock but really...
trying to think the best of him do you think he might think he can't look after her? like hs doesn't know what to do for the best but knows you do so wants to let you do it? trying here!

right, waffled on long enough sorry!

promise i only pressed post once

lol katy1 lo still has a bit of a temp. Ive just been and checked on him. He is only wearing a vest and in his 1 tog sleeping bag but he still feels hot. The heater isn't on in our room either so its prety cold in there. If hes no cooler in the morning might pop him to my gp. Mind you theyllprobably tell me to carry on as Im doing as hes eating and poohing ok.
Briliant news madmouse. Well done Nathan keep it up

Went to have DD weighed this morning and she has put on 125g in one week!! That makes her 11lb and 4oz now, at 15 weeks. Still a little girl, but at least it was an increase which gets the nurse off my back.
Susiemj - thanks so much for your post. I remembered one of the babies had slow weight gain when first born and meant to page back to find who it was, but damn dial up modem here means everything takes soooooo long. We have stuck with bf exclusively, but I think that's largely because I've done it for 3 months now and feel very unwilling to give it up. (BTW, your photos are gorgeous! )

Lucky and mixedmama - sorry to hear your DPs are being difficult. Mine is mostly very helpful (sorry ), but one memorable morning I left DD with him when I went off to church. To the 8am service so I had to leave home at 7:30.... And DP had a monster of a hangover....! I came home to a very sorry looking DP, although DD was chirpy as anything. Served him right too - he'd promised to be home before 11pm but got home at 3am.
Seriously, we did have a patch where he wasn't involving himself with DD much and we had a serious conversation about how DD was a baby we both wanted and not just my new project.

Summer has finally gone here in South Africa but unfortunately it seems to have skipped autumn and gone straight to winter. I am FREEZING!!! Had to go out and buy pyjamas, jerseys and warm underwear today. So we are now all in the same boat weather-wise!

Hi all - read all posts, but no time for a catch up now.
Lucky - hang in there, hope your dp gets the message soon
Madmouse - well done Nathan! I'm so proud of him, what a star.
Was really ill yesterday. My lactose intolerance had disappeared with pregnancy, but I've now found its back with a vengeance (I had a cream and mushroom pasta two days ago and was violently ill - still not right, and have only managed two pieces of toast and ginger ale for 24 hours ). DH stayed off work yesterday to look after me, and has gone back to the office today. Need hugs and sympathy, feeling quite sorry for myself!

Oh frag . Get better soon

Frag here's a big one ((((((((()))))))))))))
Hope your feeling better soon!

Bwmum yeah for the weight gain. At least they off your back as it were. She sounds to be doing fine will just probably be a petite litlle girl!

Lucky sorry things are no better. Hope you manage to sit down with him and have a good talk. Have you got anyone who could sit for you so you could maybe have a night out together and discuss it maybe over a meal or a drink so as it doesn't become an argument and he can't walk off ?

Katy it was a great catch up post though so deserves to be posted 3 times! Go you for the 13 mile walk don't think i could do it!

Gingeme poor lo you have really had a bad run haven't you. Maybe worth a trip to gp to put your mind at rest!

Ange lol at Alek too chubby to roll, Martha showing no sign either don't think she can be bothered

Madmouse that is wonderful news about Nathan the power of prayer is a wonderful thing, your very own miracle!

Barristermum i know it's a real shame about MrsMc does she post at all now ? Hope your friend bearing up.

Mixedm i know what you mean my mil still runs round after dp when he goes making him cups of tea etc.

Well it's a lovely day here so might go for a walk after picking up dd from pre school, anything to avoind my ironing mountain

Hi all. have just been on solo trip to IKEA with Alek to buy a new coffee table as the leg just fell off our old one (!). Was a bit peed off to realise you have to put the baby in their car seat in a trolley. Maybe just as well though as you then have no room to buy all the nick-nacks they sucker you in witin the market hall.

Thinking of your DP's attitude - Lucky. You may recall DH had real issues before DS was born. He is of course the typical proud dad now, but does anyone else have a partner who is "selective" about what they do with the baby? He loves playing with him, bathing him and giving him a bottle. However he is really crap at settling him so it's generally always me who gets up in the night. He also avoids nappies like the plague even though LO only poos every 48 hours so they are 95% just wet...

Hope poorly ladies and their LO's are better soon xxx

AngeChica were off to Ikea this afternoon to look at mattresses. Ours is very weathered now after having three babys concieved on and one nearly born on think its time for a new one.
Tankfuly lo is much better today. His temp is back to normal. ds3 is currently asleep naked on our sofa. He is still coughing like a 40 a day soker but his temp all back to normal too thank goodness. dh is in bed sleeping too after his night shift. lo asleep on under his ladybird mobile and ds4 has just woken from his nap. Typical
Ah well better get him up before he tries to climb out his cot.

BWMum - well done you! I think mixed feedign actually causes more worry and faff in the long run. Sabela has just sorted this for us by absolutely refusing any more bottles. I think our LOs are very similar in size. Sabela is long and thin. I keep telling myself that this is not a bad thing to be in this life!

Yay Madmouse - really happy for you. What alittle star!

I'm doing fine so far being a solo mum. I don't think I'd want to do it all the time though! I even did hoovering

Thanks everyone once again.

Hope you and your LO are well.

Not been on for a while, as DD2 infection flared up again - don't know why even though she is on AB. I just wish my poor baby would get better.

Had such a hectic day today, trying to maintain DD1 daily routine so she doesn't feel like mummy has forgotten her, so took her to Toddler Club am, quick lunch for her, then off to GP (about 20 mins drive away due to road works) to be told that DD2 can't have her third course of vaccinations as she is on AB, begged with the receptionist to allow me to see the GP this afternoon as DD2 has been very unsettled for the past two days (easier to get into Fort Knox then it is to book an appointment) - was told to come back at 4pm, which in NHS language meant being seen at 5:30pm - got home had 2 very tired and unsettled daughters. Put them both down for a nap now - it's prob going to interfer with their night sleeping - but am so tired at the moment - not bothered. So now working my way through half a lemon sponge roll from M&S (I know... mega unhealthy - but is my saviours these days - especially as they have it on offer for 2 for £2 at the moment - I have a little stash at the moment)

Sometimes wish I had a nanny or an extra pair of hands to help, it is sooo hard looking after a sick baby and a demanding toddler.

Just skimmed read:

Gingeme - Hope your boys get well soon.
Barristermum...How sad about your friends.

Fragolina - get well soon to you too!

Angechia - Likewise here, DH brilliant at everything other than putting DD2 down for a nap - my job apparently..!

Mixedmama - will buzz you soon - it's just so hard to find 10 mins for myself to make a call.

Hello Lilyo, Susiemj, BMWmum, Katy1, Lucky, Madmouse.

There seemed to be LOTS of us regulars when we were pregnant, seemed like some of us have 'dissapeared' (or have I missed anyone? - hope not and apologies if I have i.e Mrs McJnr, Lolo, beller...)

madmouse - just wanted to say brilliant news about Nathan.

Amani, be nice to yourself!

How awful that your lo is still not better. And that you have to try so hard to get seen at your surgery. Glad to say mine is better, especially with small babies

Feeling good here, Nathan is stretching his nights. Fed at 10 and 3 then woke up with us from the alarm clock at 7.30 when he was ravenous. Did not agree with me trying to burp him before latching on (just in case - see earlier posts about milk coming back ) and let out some funny furious squeals. Are you all finding that your lo are becoming so much more communicative, even with different cries?

Hope that his first jabs on Monday are not going to interfere with this lovely new sleeping pattern.

Morning all are any of you bf mummies going to do the bf calendar ? I have put my name down and will prob go to the Leeds photo shoot , any one else ? Think it will be a lovely momento.

Hows everyone today ?

Amani sod it enjoy the cake and the dd's sleeping. You need to have a rest too! What a nightmare about the surgery although i have to say ours is very similair.

How did the Ikea trip go ladies , did you get anything nice ?

Well we just back form martha second lot of injections and she screamed but is sleeping now!
I think i may have thrush though my left nipple and boob is painful, was really bad yesterday so i popped into the hv clinic and was to see the hv was a man! However i explaind it all to him and he has told me to use the cream i have for dd for now I though if it was pain in your breast that it would need ab's any advice on this one much appreciated!
I have visit off h.v anyway at 12.30 so will double check with her.

Hey ladies...

Am so knackered. For some reason DS1 was really unsettled last night and ended up sleeping with us altho he seemed to wake up sporadically so am knackered and he was up at 6 am. I have the period from hell and feel like crap so he has gone to Ils today so just DS2 and I at home. Hoping to pop back to bed at some point... but now that i am completely awake am missing DS1 and wish I didnt send him... never happy.

Amani - hope everything sorts itself out soon. Dr surgeries are pretty useless with things like that arent they.

ohhhhhhh had my weigh in at weight watchers last night and have lost 8 lbs in 2 weeks so am going to get exercising today when I only have DS2. Woooo Hoooo.

Lilyloo, Nathan and I both had thrush and we both needed treatment, will be the same for you. And it did not make my breasts hurt. Are your nipples pink and shiny? I would see GP just in case.

madmouse no it's not pink. I had what i thought was a milk blister which with some massaging i thought it had burst. However i have now been having intermittant pain, like a shooting pain and a sore nipple around where the blister was. I am wondering if a thrush infection could have gotten into the nipple through the blister iyswim. DD is on a thrush cream for external thrush, we are waiting the results of her swab (it may be infected eczema) but the hv said ti=o use that for my nipple too. He checked her mouth and she doesn't have it orally and it is only on one nipple and not as painful again today

Well done mixedmama that's great

hi all, not posted for ages, but keep reading your posts.
madmouse, so pleased about Nathan, he's doing wonderfully well isn't he?!

lucky, poor you, what a shame your dp is such a pita! mine was pretty crap with dd and ds1, but is much better with ds2 - think he's not as scared of him! still hasn't changed any nappies tho i still get pretty pissed off with him sometimes, esp when he has a day off, then stays in bed til well after lunchtime. and has the cheek to say he's been working soooo hard all week! what does he think i've been doing all day? i don'y spend that much time on mn......!

gingeme, how are your brood today? hope they're all getting better!

lily, i'm down for the bf calender too, and going to Leeds, so hopefully i'll see you there!

frag, hope you're feeling better today!

sorry not a proper catch up, but hi to everyone, hope you're all ok, and all babies are thriving!

Must get on with housework...place looks like a cross between council tip and a bombsite...again!

OK, have skimmed so probably have missed some vital bits, but just want to get back on the thread

Lucky - DP sounds a right pain at the mo - even the best DPs seem to have no conception of reality - perhaps you could try a calm time when LO asleep to outline what you do and the fact that your job is on-call 24/7? Explain that you love being a mum, but to be a better mum and wife you'd like to "book" some time off. DH sometimes gets wrapped up in his own stuff and I need to remind him occasionally - unfortunately men's brains don't retain things v long so you need to keep on top of it so he doesn't forget!

Barristermum - awful news about your friend - hope she can get through it OK and has sympathetic doctors etc if they choose to have another in the future.

We've had mad time here - DD1's birthday sleepover (6 15 year old girls), my birthday, DD3's baptism (the day of the snow), DD2's birthday (12 5 year olds), school hols over the same time, new wood floor fitted downstairs - can now breathe and relax! Well, off to London tomorrow but then can relax!

Baby stuff - she's 16 weeks tomorrow, sleep is something she's not keen on, goes down 8pm, wakes 12.30, then 3/4.30/6am - and is hungry each time (half hour feed not just a comfort suck). So have given her baby rice last 2 days - will see if that helps. She wolfed it down so she obviously needed it (1 spoon mixed in 3 spoons milk). Am still BF but now she's almost 4 months am more relaxed about the occasional bottle of formula - as she's my last I wanted to BF as long as poss and I've now exclusively fed a lot longer than before (DD2 was having one FF a day from around 10 weeks) - I finally stopped any BF last time at about 5 - 6 months, so am pretty chuffed with myself so far! (Why do we beat ourselves up about this??) She's alert all the time, big grins, rolling from her back to her side - she gets her toes touching the floor, just needs the oomph to get her back/shoulders to flip! Lots of cooing and squealing - not laughing though (her sisters laughed at this age, and DD2 made great Mmmm noises like Marge Simpson!)

Anyway, must dash - off for coffee with one of the mums I met at postnatal exercise class! Catch up later...

Hi girls - Sorry haven't really read - just need to splurge.

Just went into town to do some shopping and for the first time ever when out Sabela cried her eyes out - or should that be lungs. I took her in her pram and the sun was in her eyes at first so this might have been it. We usually take her sling. I couldn't stop her crying and I had to just give up and go home. She was fine if I picked her up, but I couldn't really walk home like this.Needless to say she was fast asleep within minutes of getting home. I got totally flustered. By the time i got home, I was thinking - 'I know nothing about babies! I haven't even read any books! My mum's hopeless and my friend's don't have LOs. What the * was I thinking etc etc '. It's the first time I've lost confidence with her. Usually I just follow my instincts and it's fine. Now my instincts are to stay at HOME!

Has anyone else had a wobbly moment like this? I'm fine now but I did NOT enjoy that (looks out from her corner tremulously for her antenatal friends....)

Lovely to read how everyone is doing and how all the LO's are getting on.
Had Toby weighed today and he's now 14lbs 7 oz. He will be 13 weeks on Friday.
I did think he might have started teething as he'd been dribbling a lot and pushing his fingers ( or whole fist at times!) into his mouth but HV says its just a new skill he's learnt with his hands and no teeth yet which is a bit of a relief.

I had my contraceptive implant put in just over a week ago now, and so far so good. It's really nice to not have to think about contraception ( or worry).

I have to say Toby still doesn't like 'tummy time'. He will put up with it for about 5 minutes and then start yelling about it. He has good head control but dont know what I can do to encourage the tummy time. I've tried the lying on the floor with him, placing his favourite toys around him, etc, etc, but it doesn't seem to be working as yet. Any ideas gratefully received.