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Naetha · 03/01/2008 08:10

Thought I'd start this thread now as I think there's already a couple of people to go on it, and I know there'll be an awful lot more!!

Will update when I get a chance

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Susiemj · 19/01/2008 15:28

Hi everyone! Things much sunnier. DH and I both had a fit each and then made up. and today Sabela has been weighed and has put on 2.5 oz in a day and a half. I'm on no more than an hours sleep at a time due to feeding regime, so may not be on much but will be thinking of you all, especially you overdue ladies andthose with sore nips and bits!

MamaMaiasaura · 19/01/2008 15:40

Hi ladies havent logged on for a while again. Simply not finding time.

Am on another course of AB's here as cut still infected. Think i posted that last time tho. Only 6 tablets left and am feeling better down there and def not as sore.

Baby smauel is just over 3 weeks now and is doing very well. Weighed at 3 weeks at 11lb! he is really piling it on and I am only BFing so feeling proud here . He feeds around every 2-3 hours although at times wants another top up an hour later!. He whinnys when i put him down. Already out of newborn clothes and size 1 nappies.

Thinking of reusables.. anyone else using them? Atm he is having about 12 changes a day so prob not quite ready for it.

Also baby has pimples on his face.. anyone elses babies have this?

Am soooooo knackered. Waiting for the magic 6-8 weeks when he goes longer between feeds and i get some more sleep. Not wanting to express as at such a young age they can get nipple confusion which would cock up the BFing. Also bf ds1 for a year and weaned him onto a beaker which was good as skipped the whole bottle thing.

Ds1 at his dads this weekend. Feeling guilty for not being able to still give him the same level of attention. HE is being a fab big bro tho. Samuel also loves getting cuddles from his big brother.

DP is loving being a daddy too and has been a star. He went back to work on Friday and missed him soo much.

Naetha · 19/01/2008 17:39

Hey all My Dad is up for a long weekend, so just a brief post!

Awen - Ben has a spotty face, with loads of pimples on his nose! I keep on getting the urge to try and pop them, but I can't see that being a success, or indeed fair on Ben! As for using reusables, I feel I am doing my bit for earth-motherhood by breastfeeding, so happy to stick with disposables! My friend used reusables for about 3 months, but said they made her DD so uncomfortable and gave her really bad nappy rash she couldn't bear to carry on using them. I've also bought about 6 months worth of disposables (they were 1/3 off!) so can't see it happening any time soon!

Susie - Glad things are better between you and DH and great news that Sabela has put weight on! Me and DH had a bit of a tiff as well - he went back to work on Friday, and on Thursday night Ben wasn't settling at all, and DH insisted I fed him in another room so he could get some sleep, even though it would mean Ben would take longer to settle overall. We'd obviously had a mis-understanding about how night time feeds would work! He assumed that because I'd got a chair for breasfeeding in the nursery (which we're not using yet, so is freezing cold and still smells of paint!) that I was going to feed in there from day 1 (or at least when DH went back to work). However I'd assumed that I'd use this for night time feeds when Ben was in there in his cot. Ended up feeding him downstairs in the end, but wasn't ideal and he took ages to settle. Not sure how we're going to work it out next week, but it may be that the 11pm feed is a expressed/bottle feed so Ben doesn't fuss and fret so much.

Susie can you express a couple of feeds in advance and get DH to give them so you can get more than an hour's sleep?

Barristermum - we've had similar problems, i.e. Ben will only settle in our arms and wake up when we put him in his moses basket. We've got round it to some extent by putting him in his grobag (don't know if you're using grobags or blankets, but grobags are fab!) before he goes to sleep, then when he's fallen asleep in our arms we can put him straight down in his moses basket and he doesn't notice/wake up because he's already in bed (as it were!) and there's no big temperature change / fussing with blankets to disturb him.

BWMum - hope your DD's pooing issues are sorted soon! At least if you know she's already done one poo you know all the tubes are connected ok! Often breastfed babies can go for several days between poos.

Beller - I'm so impressed at you keeping going by yourself! I'd fall apart if DH wasn't here! Definitely identify with the days being a blur of boobs, bums and vomit, with the odd bit of gazing into gorgeous blue eyes! Like you, the eye gazing seems to be between 11pm and 1am when he's at his most awake - very frustrating!

MrsMcJnr - cats got locked out of our bedroom for a week and that was it. They're either just not interested in Ben, or very respectful of him. Max got in his moses basket once (when Ben wasn't in it) but was chased out of it so forcefully that he hasn't gone anywhere near it since! Our kitten Tillie is ever so sweet with Ben - this morning Ben was in bed with us, and she curled up by his feet under the covers and didn't mind at all when he kicked her! She's really taken a shine to him, and will often look in on him when he's in his moses basket, especially if he's grizzling a bit, but never jumps up. She also likes to gently headbut him as well - ever so sweet!

Luckysalem - congratulations!! so chuffed for you that Aaliyah is finally here! Sorry you didn't get the birth you wanted, but at least you started off at home! Best thing is that you and her are healthy, and it sounds like your DP was an absolute rock for you We need photos though!!

Like I said at the beginning (where I said this was going to be a brief post - I lied!) my Dad is up here for the weekend and he's absolutely bowled over by Ben - I've hardly got my hands on him other than for feeds! We had a great day out today, we went to Bolton Abbey (which is about 15 miles away) where there's some lovely riverside walks, and a derelict abbey to look around. We gave our Quinny buzz a proper test-drive and it came out trumps, even over gravel and mud! Was nice to get out for a walk again after the birth - bits of me are still sore (hips and sciatica) but walking will make them better so I need to get into the habit again! Ben slept the whole time other than a brief bout of crying at the end when he realised he hadn't been fed for 3 hours and 10 minutes and absolutely screamed...for 5 minutes until he fell asleep again! Think the fresh air tired him out as he's been fast asleep since we got back 3 hours ago! We're going out for our first meal with Ben tonight which will be interesting! Only the local child-friendly pub, but will still be a first! I'm going to try and express/bottle feed him before we go so hopefully he won't want to cluster feed all evening! I've just about cracked BFing in front of my Dad, but not ready for BFing in front of a whole pub!

Nipples are still sore, but I guess I'm just used to it now! I think it's more from clamping than anything else, as once the let-down has slowed and he re-latches, it's a lot less painful, although I still get nipple blanching. Can't believe how much milk I'm producing though - I go through about 6 breast pads every day (well, 3 lots of 2!) and have managed to soak through 2 of my t-shirts and one of Ben's babygros! The problem is I seem to get let-down on both sides, regardless of which side he's feeding on!

Right, I'm going to start expressing now so he doesn't have to wait when he wakes up!

Sorry for the mammoth post, speak to you all again soon, and enjoy your LOs!

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Amani · 19/01/2008 18:16

Congratulations luckysalam.

MrsMcJnr and Lucky - we named our daughter Aliya too!

Awen - They might be heat spots as my DD1 got them when she was born and they went after a week. Best to get it checked out if you are worried.

Called the BF helpline today as I'm getting this awful pain in my nipples which feels like a hndred needles poking into me and deep breast pains. The BF counsellor suggested Daktarin, until I see my GP on Monday. Immediately felt better, but am just so fed up with one thing after another happening to my boobs.

Am waiting for the magic 6 week mark aswell...

LuckySalem · 19/01/2008 19:54

Girlies I'm just putting some pictures on my profile so feel free to have a browse!!

Dotsie · 19/01/2008 22:52

LS what gorgeous photos! well done you. And lovely names too.

Awen, good to see you back. hope all's going well. Sorry to hear you're still on the ABs. Hope you're better soon. I used terry nappies with both dd and ds1, had 2 under 2 and in nappies for about 4 months, which meant the house was continually full of drying nappies (i've never had a dryer), but I found they were perfectly easy to use, and saved me a fortune! I still kept a few disposables in for emergencies, but used mostly terries with no ill effects on either child. flushable liners are a must tho HAven't got round to using proper nappies with ds2 yet, but intend to once dh goes back to work next week, and I have to stop being lazy (ie I've got to get up and do the morning school run! Aghh!)

Susie, glad things are getting a bit better for you, and Sabela's putting on weight. yah boo sucks to your hv then! stick at it girl!!

Naetha Haven't been to Bolton Abbey for ages, must find time to go there again sometime, pref when not chucking it down! Enjoy having your Dad to stay, it sounds like he's loving being a Grand-dad! Hope you had a lovely meal out, and Ben didn't want to feed all the time

Right off to find some mindless rubbish to watch on the tv. Why is Sat night viewing such a load of c*&p?!

mixedmama · 20/01/2008 11:18

Hi ladies,

Only got a few mins in the internet cafe as DH is looking after the children (that sounds so funny).

Just wanted to say hi and that I have not forgotten about you all.

I know Amani has let you all know that Ediz arrived on 11 Jan - ridiculously late.

Finding it all abit of a strain to manage two especially as DS1 keeps running into evil BIL stinky smoky bedroom and with baby attached to boob very difficult to do much about it, btu slowly starting to wear me down being back living here, coupled with hormones not a good thing at the moment.

With this in mind am planning to get out and about with DS1 this week to keep him occupied. Going to have to tackle the BF in public thing, but planning mainly to go to toddler groups so shouldnt be too bad as I dont feel so conscious in those kind of places.

Slightly more stress as well as DS2 lost 500g post birth as he was having real problems feeding luckily the MW was very understanding and said that since she knew our history in that he refused to open his mouth for anything (even bottle) that we will weigh him again tomorrow, but normally he would be referred back to hospital, ended up crying my eyes out as I now am topping up with expressing and formula, and feel really responsible in my determination to BF as he has suffered as a result.

DH is being a bit of a pillick as well. Peed me right off this morning as both boys had pooed and both wanted to eat and he was just lying in bed, AWAKE and then moaned that I put the radio on. The thing is it isnt even as if they woke up early it was about 8.30. He thinks that cos he works everything else is up to me, which will be fine once I have the feeding established. He has moaned constantly all weekend about the house and keeps really shouting at DS1 for getting his toys out. He is 2 years old FGS what does he expect him to do. Times like that I just feel like saying, if you cant be decent to him then we are leaving. Sometimea it really upseta me, he just expects him to sit quietly.

Sorry for ranting as soon as I get on, just had to get it off my chest.

Hope things are going well for everyone.

Takw care ladies and hopefully will be able to chat properly soon.

beller · 20/01/2008 11:59

Barrister mum - im with you on the no sleeping thing, George is getting better at going down on his own,as long as i leave his annoyong musical thingy on

Awen - George takes a bottle, i have expressed and using the tommee tippee breast ones, and he goes back to boob no problem.
Im still on anti biotics for infected cut too, so know how you feel, im hoping to be off them this week

Naetha - your walks sound fab, as soon as it stops rainign here, thats what i plan to do!! Hope your nipples are better soon.

Mixedmamma - sorry to hear things arnt great at home, hope they sort themselves out, i dont know what i would do if i had 2!! I breastfed in public for the first time last week, my sister bought me a nursing shawl and it was great! covers both of us and no one batted an eye lid!

Hope everyone is ok and getting thru the sleep deprivation..i even looked at night nannies online today in a moment of weakness...i know it wont last for ever though...got to hop, hes screaming for next feed xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Susiemj · 21/01/2008 09:28

Hi everyone - just a quick one to say Sabela put on 80g and is being weighed again today.

Unfortunatley, I've come down with a double whammy of norvirus and unrinary tract infection. !!!!!!!

Put it this way, we're doing the best we can.

Hope you and all your LOs are thriving.

toomanyshoes · 21/01/2008 13:49

Hello! Not been on for a few days as had loads going on. Took Charlie in to work on thursday as one of my friends is leaving and they were all going out for lunch. Left the house at 12 and got home at 6 - Charlie didn't open his eyes once the whole time we were out! Had to feed him in his sleep! Was lovely to show him off though and everybody had a hold of him. Then went to see the Spice Girls on Friday which was fab. Was funny leaving Charlie but he was fine, DH gave him a bottle but had boobs like watermelons by the time I got back. Went to stay with my parents on Sat night and they looked after the children so DH and I could go to the cinema. Fed DS just before we left and got back in time for next feed so worked out really well.
Knackered today though so staying on the sofa dozing and feeding. Can't believe Charlie is 1 month old tomorrow, it's gone so fast.

Lucky - so pleased for you, congratulations! She is beautiful

Mixedmama - sorry DH being a bit rubbish at the mo, maybe it will just take a while for him to get the hang of the workload involved in having 2 children! It's a shame you're not living near me anymore or we could meet up for a coffee or something. If you're ever over this way visiting our parents give me a shout and you could pop over with he DS's! How did you find Whipps Cross?

Beller - I've been lugging about a pashmina in my bag and just cover up while I am getting DS latched on (he takes a while and likes to wave his head around flashing my boobs at everybody!) Am also wearing my BF tops almost every day, am getting bored of them now!

Naetha - sounds like things are going really well for you and glad the Bf getting easier. I'm envious of your milk supply, mine is a bit feeble but I suppose a bit is better than nothing!

Susie - sounds like a really stressful few days, brilliant that sabela has gained weight. It will all get easier soon!

Barristermum, would second Fluffy on the babywhisperer recommendation, i found it so helpful when I had DD. Hope things are going well for you and you're getting a bit of sleep!

Hi to everybody else, got to go as DS just woken up wanting his lunch!

lilyloo · 21/01/2008 16:33

Hi all hopefully i will have more time to pop on here now the visitors are dying off.
I gave birth to Martha Neve on Friday 18th Jan at 6.55 pm.
Things going well although little tired as we getting about 4 hours sleep before dc's wake up so catching up a bit now.
Milk came in last night so breasts been uncomfortable for most of day so am hopeful they will feel slightly better tom.

Am hoping to catch up now with all the news on here and spk to you all soon

barristermum · 21/01/2008 20:18

Hi all,

mixedmama so sorry to hear about frustrating home life. I hope you told DH how you felt - if you are bottling all that up it will explode out of you soon - esp with BIL in background.

Naetha - amazing post! Similarly envious about your milk - mine seems definitely in but can't use the Avent hand pump to save my lfe - now tried on other breast to which cerys is feeding and on same breast after she's finished but no luck with either. What are other people using and any tips?

Susie - glad lo is putting on weight and you are calmer there.

toomany - your lfe sounds so normal - going out and everything! We have read babywhisperer now but are confused by various things. Do you do the activity part of EASY in the middle of the night as well? What if baby won't go to sleep - do you leave to cry or just continue with the picking up to comfort and returning to cot. What if baby won't stop crying even in arms at that point?
I have had a bit of a dramatic loss of confidence really - might be baby blues with milk coming in but have been really tearful for last couple of days. DH and mum being stars and supportive but 2 nights ago cerys fed or tried to feed for 5 hours in a row?!!! Is this normal and what do I do? Good lord the reality is harder than I anticipated even tho i knew it would be, somehow actually living it is a whole new ball game.

toomanyshoes · 21/01/2008 20:58

Hi Barristermum - we don't do any activity/nappy change etc after night feeds. Just pick up, feed, wind and put down (very little eye contact, no talking, dim lights etc). We try and do a naooy change after day feeds to wake him up but its not always successful as he is a very sleepy baby (DD was the same) found baby whisperer methods much easier to implement after 6 weeks or so when they are not quite so 'newborn'! At this stage I found the stuff about recognising cries and body language the really useful bit. Getting them off for a nap after and hour and a half or so of awake time was another tip from BW that has worked well, I didn't realise what a short time newborns could stay awake for without getting overtired when DD was born. (once overtired she was really hard to settle)
I think when they are as new as this you just do whatever it takes to get them off to sleep in the middle of the night! I know BW might say otherwise but I think your body needs sleep and time to recover from the birth and any sort of sleep training can wait until your nipples don't feel like they are falling off and you no longer have maternity pads in the bathroom!
One thing that I have sworn by with DD and DS is a dummy, I know lots of people hate them but both mine were/are very sucky babies and left to their own devices would be clamped to my nipple for hours without really feeding, just for comfort. I pop Ds's dummy in when I put him in the moses basket (I always swaddle him too) and he will often go off to sleep by himself. Took DD's away when she was about 4 months and had no problems with it so plan to do he same again.

Don't let my normal sounding life make you feel like that is the norm, it is only because DS is asleep almost all the time and I had an easy labour so recovered quick! Was the same with DD and if it's any consolation I had the really stressful bit when she was about 6 months and gave up sleeping entirely! My NCT group were all delighted that I had finally had a dose of sleep deprived trauma! Sure it will be the same with DS, and he had been a lot more unsettled and awake today so perhaps my time is coming sooner than last time (didn't get dressed til 4.30 today!!

fluffymummy · 22/01/2008 11:17

Naetha and Awen - my DS had awful spots too....was quite upsetting and like Naetha it took loads of willpower not to pop them! 2 things really helped: 1) breastmilk rubbed on (yes, really!) and 2) colloidal oatmeal cream (Aveeno was the brand we used, you can buy it in Boots). Sadly the cream is no longer available on prescription (I know, cos I asked my GP just now, as we still use it for DS who is not 2.5!). The spots aren't very attractive and are called 'milk spots', but they do go down after a couple of weeks (I'm assuming you have the same breakout of little whiteheads that we had!)...of course if you're concerned you should definitely get tehm checked by the GP....but do not squeeze 'em!!

Barristermum - lovely to see you on Friday! BW is fairly clear (somewhere!) about night feeds being different to daytime ones....darkened room, no eye contact, no nappy change unless absolutely necessary, no noise...basically pick baby up, feed, wind and put down with no other interaction for anything between 7pm and 7am (so including the 10/11pm feed). It takes a while to read all the relevant stuff in the baby whisperer, which is probably why my DH got so handy with the sticky legal notes!

Susie - hugs at you, sounds like you're not getting the easiest ride...but well done on getting Sabela to put on a bit of weight!

MixedMama - been thinking of you lots. Think you might need to give DH a bit of a talking to, and sending you huge {{{{hugs}}}} for the time being.

Toomanyshoes...I am in total awe...spice girls, cinema and meals out? Not sure I managed that a month after ds, let alone how on earth thats feasible with more than one child. Hope you have a seriously fab time!

Today is D-day for my LO, but no sign of any action. I now have an induction date for 31st Jan, so I might end up on the 'born in Feb' thread after all....[Fluffy starts to get a little emotional at the thought of having to leave all her friends and go and hang out with total strangers on the February thread....]

Love to all, Fluffy xx

fluffymummy · 22/01/2008 11:18

PS Beller - it sounds like you are do absolutely brilliantly with George....well done....and it does get easier!!

Naetha · 22/01/2008 19:31

Hi all

Just a quick question - just wanted some general advice...

On the subject of night feeds, often Ben will wake up after 3 hours or so rooting and grizzling (rarely let him get to the stage where he actually cries unless I'm absolutely zonked!). I'll then feed him, and he usually feeds for about 15-30 minutes but is generally sucking well and awake despite his eyes usually being closed. I have to have a dimmed light on when I feed otherwise milk sprays everywhere, but when he's finished, I'll usually cuddle him for 10 minutes or so with the light turned off, then try and put him down in his moses basket. By this point he usually appears to be fast asleep - all floppy etc. When I put him down, it usually takes about 1 minute (i.e. the time it takes for me to get back into bed and settle down) for him to wake himself up again, grizzling and crying - usually at this point his eyes are wide open and he is wide awake (as opposed to the first wake/feed where he's all sleepy). He'll then usually feed on and off again for another 30 minutes, but with only about 5-10 minutes of actual feeding before falling asleep again, and no amount of trying to keep him awake works...right up until the point I put him back in his moses basket where he's wide awake again. At this point I usually give in and let him sleep on my chest which seems to be the only place he'll settle. Unfortunately, this results in pretty crap sleep for me!

I'm sure this is a massively common occurrence in homes with babies across the world - but what do you do to work it out? I thought I'd cracked it by not taking him out of his grobag to feed (so he wasn't going down into a (relatively) cold grobag to sleep), but this only worked for a couple of nights.

Any suggestions?

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Naetha · 22/01/2008 19:33

Oh, incidentally, he doesn't have much trouble settling in his moses basket during the day, although I usually keep it nearby (i.e. in the front room if I'm watching TV or in the computer room if I'm on the computer). Could it be the stillness that's waking him up, if so how could we get around it rather than having those damn annoying lullabyes to get him to sleep?

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fruitful · 22/01/2008 20:16

white noise machine naetha

fruitful · 22/01/2008 20:18

put him down and then put your arms around him in the basket for a bit?

typing 1 handed here

fruitful · 22/01/2008 20:22

ds2 is 6 weeks today! Due next Tuesday, and just beginning to wake up a bit and act like a newborn. And oooh I'm so tired. I'm starting to dread bedtime.

Dotsie · 22/01/2008 21:27

Hi all. Not had time to post for a couple of days, but have been having a quick read whenever I can.

Naetha, I had the same problem with ds1...I only ever got him to settle in his cot for about 5 mins once, cos every time I fed him and put him to sleep in his cot (and he was sound asleep, believe me!) he'd wake up, and I tried everything I could think of...singing to him, warming the cot with a hotwaterbottle, sliding him v gently from the bed to the cot on a blanket, etc etc etc. Nothing worked, and eventually I gave up and co-slept with him beside me (on the outside of the bed, with the cot as a means of stopping him falling out accidently). Perhaps not ideal for you, as you say you don't sleep that well with Ben in with you, but I found it was the only way to get any sleep at all! What about trying a cot rather than a moses basket, and having it (as we did with dd and ds1, and are doing again with ds2) at the same level as your bed, with one side removed? That way, he has a separate space from you (more sleep for you?) but can still be reasonably close. Might be worth a try anyway. I'm sorry I can't give you any practical advice really, but you have my sympathy! Best of luck!

Lilyloo congratulations! What lovely names. Hope all's well for you, and your milk supply is settling down now. Hope to see you back here again soon.

Susie poor you, hope you're feeling better soon. Glad Sabela's starting to gain weight, it must be a relief for you. Keep going with the bf - you're doing brilliantly!

aibu to expect dh to actually help with his newborn son? like cuddling him for 5 mins while i finish hanging some washing up to dry? it's not like he was even crying for a feed! i know he (dh)'s been doing a mucky job today, and hasn't yet changed his clothes or had a shower,(why ffs? he's been home since 4.30!!!!)but he isn't covered in mud, and it wouldn't kill him to lift a finger occasionally! yesterday he got in at 4.30, stuffed himself with toast and sandwiches, and slept from 5 til 10pm! stimulating company i must say! and why can't he offer me a cuppa when he makes himself one? i always make him one! bloody men! grrrrr!! sorry, just had to get that off my chest! as charming Yorkshire folk around here would say...men - neither use nor ornament!

gingeme · 22/01/2008 22:09

On My goodness Dotsie you have just answered my question with out me even asking. Im having trouble with getting George to sleep in his moses basket and got a firm talking to from my HV today about co sleeping. Might get dh to put the cot up at the weekend.
Hi everyone sorry no time or brain power to have a read through tonight but will try tomm. I had a terrible migrane last night. Havn't had one in years. Mind you did have a pretty stressful weekend what with our car breaking down in the middle of no where and ds4 nearly knocking himself out at a a kids party and me feeling useless because I was feeding lo and couldnt get to him in time. Ho um the joys of having three under four
Well off to bed now. Will try to catch up tomm.
Take care xxx

toomanyshoes · 22/01/2008 23:05

naetha & Gingeme - do you swaddle your LO's? Charlie wakes up if I transfer him from my arms to the basket without being swaddled really tightly. Think it makes him feel like he is still being held. I have one of those swaddle blankets with velcro on and its fab. I swaddle him at bedtime and don't take him out until morning (can feed.wind etc whilst still wrapped up like a jelly baby!) unless he has done a poo!

been to docs today and have developed SPD since delivery so referred to physio, pelvis v sore! She has also prescribed Domperidone to increase my milk supply - Fruitful, did you say you had taken it? Did it work ok for you? any side effects?

Hope you all have peaceful nights

Amani · 23/01/2008 11:29

Been off for a couple of days - had bad mastitis (again) but this time with a raging fever and was bed bound for a couple of days. Fever gone down now, but boobs still feel like they are on fire - now on my second course of antibiotics .

Somehow, I can't help but think BF is not for me....

Hugs to everyone else who is not well, sorry I haven't had time to catch up with the other postings.

Amani · 23/01/2008 11:33

Forgot to mention, lost 1/2 stone as a result, which normaly I would be pleased about but feel soooo weak.