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January 08 - shiny new-year babies!

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Naetha · 03/01/2008 08:10

Thought I'd start this thread now as I think there's already a couple of people to go on it, and I know there'll be an awful lot more!!

Will update when I get a chance

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beller · 03/01/2008 17:22

cheers Naetha!! When i have got rid of my infection ill be on!! xx

Awenamanger · 03/01/2008 21:22

Am not new year now but was on the antenatal thread

Samuel was born on the 27th Dec vbac 8lb12. So he is a week old now. NOt managing to get online much now as being kept bus wih the non stop feeding, changing etc etc

Am b/fing - last couple of days he has been taking longer feeds at times for about 45-60 min, although mostly around the 20 min. He wasnt feeding for very long before, only 10 min and I was having to wind/change etc to wake him as he has jaundice. does appear to be clearing.

In +++++pain as stitches from epesiotonony not healing and now look like could be infected.

Naetha · 07/01/2008 00:05

Ooh hello all

Finding this all quite a handful at the moment, but no more than I originally expected! Milk just come in big-time, but he's still not that interested in feeding. Think he may have a tongue tie, but will get the MW to have a check tomorrow.

Right one feed and change before we go to bed, and hopefully get more than 4 hours sleep tonight!

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Naetha · 07/01/2008 21:13

Right, I promised I'd write my birth story, so here it is, although already details are fading away, or being blocked out!

Things started off at about 4am on Thursday when on one of my numerous night time loo visits I found my mucus plug had come out. Went back to bed fine, and woke up at about 6ish with strong backache (i.e. stronger than I'd been having previously) accompanying my constant braxton hicks. I sent DH off to work, as although I was fairly certain things were moving, I didn't want to jinx anything, or lose a day's paternity leave for no good reason. As the day wore on the backache turned into definite contractions - the pain was almost entirely across my lower back. I was told this was referred pain, because that's where I get my period pain cramps, but it turns out that it's more likely that it was because LO was back to back!

I had a reflexology session already booked for 12pm - originally it was to try and kick start labour, but as that had already happened I just took the opportunity to have a lovely foot massage and be "energised". I don't know how much of an effect it had on the intensity of the labour, but it was pretty intense!

By 1pm, things were definitely happening, so when DH called up to see how I was I suggested he let work people know he might have to leave in a hurry. Half an hour later he was home - his boss had given him the afternoon off

At 2:30, I rung the labour ward to have a chat, and they suggested I came in to be checked out, but did say if I wasn't progressed far enough it was likely I'd be sent home again. At that point the contractions were lasting approximately 45 seconds to a minute, and every 5 minutes. I was examined, and found to be fully effaced with a paper thin cervix that was already 2cm dilated. When she examined me, she asked me if I wanted her to sweep the membranes as this might speed things up a bit - sounded good to me, and although it wasn't exactly comfortable, it wasn't too bad. Certainly no more painful than my contractions were at that stage!

After the sweep I went home again, but things were definitely getting more intense, and a LOT more painful. I took 2 paracetamol, and "settled" to watching TV while leaning on my birthing ball. The next couple of hours are a bit of a haze in all honesty - things were starting to get really painful, but the contractions were varied - some were 30 seconds long, some were 2 minutes long, and sometimes there'd be a 5 minute gap, sometimes a 1 minute gap, although I was pretty much getting 3-4 contractions every 10 minutes. I decided now was probably the best time to go back to the hospital - I felt I should have progressed enough by then, and I really wanted some pain relief!

Arrived at the hospital at about 7pm and was examined again - the midwife took me into a delivery room rather than triage for the examination as she could see I really needed some pain relief! By this point I was measuring 5cm (thankfully passed the magic 4cm cutoff!) and again after the examination the contractions started getting even more intense. After about 30 minutes a student midwife was introduced (I was still quite nice and polite at this point, although quite high on G&A!) and was politely asked if I'd mind her examining me (apparently I have an interesting cervix ). She measured me as being 7cm dilated at which point the main MW was a bit surprised and on her examination found me to be 6cm - my bag of waters was also bulging out quite temptingly at this point, and she asked me if I wanted them breaking. I said go for it - they'll probably go soonish and might as well prepare for it! As soon as they were broken the pressure of the contractions eased a bit although they sped up alarmingly!

By 10pm things had risen to a whole new level of intensity (and pain!) and I decided to ask for an epidural. This was OK'd and the anaesthetist came along to rig me up. By ten to eleven he was ready to go, so the MW gave me a last internal examination (which was horrible - she was really rough this time - just because I had gas and air didn't mean she had to try and turn my cervix inside out!) and told me that I was already 10cm, time to push and I wasn't allowed an epidural! I was pretty gutted with this, as I felt I was really struggling on gas and air alone. What made it worse, was that 10 minutes later the MW decided I wasn't focusing enough with G&A and didn't let me have any more. In all honesty, I was having trouble working out what was a contraction and what wasn't because everything hurt so much!

The next hour and a half was a complete haze, and in all honesty was horrible. I hated it - it made me feel weak and powerless. I was having to push this whopping baby out who was in a poor position to come out (back to back) with no pain relief, and because I couldn't always work out when the contractions were (constant pain), I wasn't always sure when to push and when not to. Anyway, after an hour and 20 minutes of this, I finally got the head past the bit where it stops slipping back, and felt like I was actually getting somewhere, although it was still very very unpleasant. This was when they decided to try and introduce a consultant and a student midwife - if they'd just stood at the back and watched it wouldn't have bothered me (I probably wouldn't have noticed!) but they were all "This is Catherine, she's training to be a midwife, do you mind if she watches?". I responded with something very rude that I immediately felt bad for and did apologise for afterwards! Thankfully, two more contractions and a whole lot of pain later (ow - the burning sensations as crowning takes place is just phenomenol - like someone has sprayed burning acid up your fanjo) and my darling LO finally arrived!

They quickly wiped him (as I'd requested), cut the cord and placed him on my chest. I just couldn't stop looking at him. He was very quiet at first, although did give a bit of a half-hearted cry after a few seconds, but was evidently all healthy and well.

I had to be snapped out of my reverie, as unfortuately I had a large amount of bleeding and they didn't know where it was coming from. They gave me a syntometrin injection to speed up the 3rd stage (I wasn't fussed by this point) and the placenta was delivered within 5 minutes. The next 3/4 of an hour was spent with various midwives and consultants rooting around inside me (to try and find the source of the bleeding) and stitching my 2nd degree tear. Unfortunately, they also had to catheterise me to check my bladder wasn't perforated which was very unpleasant, and not only because I have a strong phobia of catheters.

Anyway, that bit was all over soon enough, and me, DH and little Ben were left alone together for nearly an hour - lovely

I'd just like to say as well that my DH was absolutely astounding throughout the whole process - always very supportive, and gave me real encouragement through the hellish second stage. He also assures me that I didn't poo myself, and is fully understanding as to the reasons why I dont want to have sex any time soon! He said it looked very different at the end down there as to what it did at the beginning!

Looking down at my LO sleeping in his moses basket I can assure you it was totally worth it, but the labour experience alone is seriously putting me off having any more children, and I can't see that changing soon.

Sorry for the marathon post - if anything it's more of a cathartic process for me, as like I said at the beginning, I've blocked an awful lot of it out.

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toomanyshoes · 07/01/2008 21:37

Just popping in to say hello!

naetha - sorry your labour was so tough, sounds like you dealt with it brilliantly though.

Awen, Samuel looks gorgeous. Is DS1 still enjoying being a big bro? My DD is constantly kissing DS at the mo but am waiting for the novelty to wear off She is only 2.9 so think a bit of jealousy is ineveitable when she realises the baby is here to stay!

Beller - hope you're feeling a bit better. I had stitches last time and they were so sore, really feel for you.

I posted a brief version of my birth story on the other thread but will try and post a proper version on this thread tomorrow. Think it would be great if we all did it actually, I think like Naetha said it is a cathartic process and also great to get it all out before you forget big chunks of it in your sleep deprived new-baby haze!

Hope you all have restful nights

barristermum · 08/01/2008 11:19

Naetha - you were heroic! Bravo! Please all keep posting your stories - they are really inspirational!

Naetha · 08/01/2008 12:57

Just wondered how people are doing with breastfeeding btw?

I know this is meant to be the toughest time, but really struggling to get Ben to feed (he wants to latch on to absolutely anything except for my boobs!) and added to that my nipples are so sore! I can't tell if this is because of poor latch/positioning, or just my nipples stretching and being very sensitive.

I've given him three expressed bottle feeds so far, and it just seems so much easier for everyone involved, but I really don't want to give up yet.

Beller - how are the stitches doing?

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toomanyshoes · 08/01/2008 13:50

Damn, just wrote huge post and then computer crashed!
naetha- I am mixed feeding as I had a breast reduction at 19 and don't produce enough milk to feed exclusively. this means leaving charlie on the breast for anything up to an hour and then topping him up with a bottle. He also has one feed a day which is just a bottle from DH so I can get a longer stretch of sleep. takes ages for each feed as I have the bottle thing to do after the breast feed but it works for us.
Has your midwife seen Ben latching on to see if he is on properly? If your midwife isn't much help (mine wasn't when I had DD, some of them are hopeless with feeding advice!) then could you get a breast feeding counsellor to come and have a look? My hospital has them but if yours doesn't then try NCT or La Leche League, a bit of one to one support and advice might make all the difference.
In my experience the soreness gets better and babies get better at latching and feeding more effectively. This really is the toughest part and you have done brilliantly to keep it up when its been tough. Have you tried Lansinoh on your nipples? It's great stuff and definitely worth a go.
That said, there is so much pressure to breastfeed but you really have to do what feels right for your family. Whether that is BFing, bottle feeding EBM or formula feeding. Hope things get easier soon, and good luck!

laughalot · 08/01/2008 14:06

Nathea bless you I had pretty much the same labour with my ds he was back to back but ended up being a ventouse delivery. I said I wouldnt have another and then last jan I had a dd totally different labour and far more plesant if labour can be that . Congrats

fruitful · 08/01/2008 14:59

Blimey Naetha, I'd have swatted that midwife! Taking away the g&a indeed, how dare she!

eek, I have to do the school run

Amani · 08/01/2008 17:05

Well done naetha - brave you manging without the G&A. Congratulationsont he birth of your son!

fruitful · 08/01/2008 19:44

BTW I am going to join this thread even though ds2 was born on 11 Dec, cos he isn't due until 29 Jan and will be developing more like a January baby! At the mo he sleeps for 22 hours a day and generally tries to pretend he hasn't been born yet.

We have abandoned breastfeeding here - 4 weeks of expressing was getting to me. I couldn't face it all again really.

But Naetha - I agree it is worth trying to get someone to watch you feeding and help with the latch. And Lansinoh is great!

I have put my birth story in birth announcements - I can put it on here too but its not terribly uplifting!

Naetha · 08/01/2008 22:48

Ahh I'd love to sleep for 22 hours a day!!

Apparently babies often don't "realise" they're not in the womb for several weeks after birth - I'd imagine this would be even longer for a premature baby.

Well done for keeping it up for 4 weeks Fruitful - I must admit I'm tempted to give up after 4 days - it's just such hard work!

Amani - how are you and your LO doing?

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Naetha · 10/01/2008 20:15

How's everyone doing? I obviously have far too much time on my hands - Ben spends most of his time sleeping, or content to lie in my/DH's arms looking around while we mess about on computers / watch TV / read books etc. The only time he ever really cries is when he gets his nappy changed, but I think that's understandable! I just hope this lasts, and he doesn't become a colicky baby.

Where are all your LOs sleeping? Ben is mainly in his moses basket which we'll either leave in the bedroom with the monitor on (got this one and have found it to be awesome!) or take into the front room if we're watching a film etc. It saves us doing all the "I'll just check on him" visits because we haven't heard a snuffle for 10 minutes . At night he's in his moses basket with us, but I'll admit he has ended up in bed with us a couple of times if he's been unsettled. Is anyone specifically co-sleeping?

Still struggling with the BF a little - he's happier to feed now (he seemed to hate my boobs full stop before!) but it feckin' hurts! His latch is poor and every now and again the pressure will break or he'll click, and it hurts like hell.

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lilyloo · 10/01/2008 21:19

Hi all just popping by to see how your all doing and wishing i could join you. Am 40 + 5 today so am getting quite impatient to meet little one.
Naetha well done birth story really insightful can't believe they were introducing students at that time ! Hope you can get on a little better with the breast feeding i think it took me a couple of weeks to get it right with ds so it's still early days but sympathise can still remember the pain!
Hope everyone else's LO's are doing well and quite a few more babies arriving on our Jan thread so imagine things will get busier on here soon!

Susiemj · 10/01/2008 21:32

just popping in for first time. have read thru and wanted to wish all well with feeding. i think mine is improving now but still haven't got the big cauliflower breasts i was told about so am worried about the baby putting on weight. health visitor tmrw! fingers crossed for me.

breastfeeding - and prob feeding in general - is difficult. hang on in there girlies - we're all in the same boat. even if we're rowing it slightly differently, we'll get there in the end.

hugs to all.

oh - and can i just say LANSINOH!!!!!!!!
(just in case anyone has not yet got the message....)

Naetha · 10/01/2008 23:12

I'll second the lansinoh as well - although it does feel like I'm polyfilla'ing the cracks in my nipples sometimes!

I'd also recommend hypercal cream as well (a homeopathic cream for sores and grazes - also great for "down there") although it does need to be washed off before feeding.

I'm quite surprised at how much weight I've lost already - I was 85kg when I conceived, this dropped to 82kg by 12 weeks (morning sickness ), then I "bloomed" up to 103kg by the time I went into labour, yet a week later I'm back down to 88kg. I'm determined to use this as a boost to kick start my weight loss (was overweight when I conceived) and would love to get a "normal" BMI again Having said that, I've still got a big jelly belly and most certainly still in my maternity clothes Getting my stomach muscles back however may be another matter - they're still hideously separated and very squishy!

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Susiemj · 11/01/2008 12:53

Naetha - Not sure if the consistency of the Lansinoh is what you meant but - try leaving it by something warm. It turns VERY runny. I left mine by the computer, then tried to squeeze it as hard as you normally have to and lost half the tube. I'm now doing it deliberately though. Much easier.

You're brave to weigh yourself. I haven't dared yet. Am still huge! I look 5-6months pregnant still. My parents seem very concerned about it - how about these for morale boosting comments

  • 'looks like you've got another one in there'
  • 'when exactly can you start exercising again?'
  • 'do you get groin pain with all that extra weight?' (post-birth)
  • 'Are you taking anything to make it go down' (My personal favourite. Seems especially cruel to my bruised, c-sectioned tummy. Poor bloody thing!)

Bloody hell. I'm almost in tears just writing it. Why don't they just say. 'Goodness me, you used to be so thin and we liked that. Now you look really ugly'

Thank god for DH who keeps telling me how pretty I am and how attractive he finds me. Probably lies, but they're sweet little lies and do make me feel better.

Susiemj · 11/01/2008 12:56

Just had another browse through our babies' pictures. My god, they're all so cute!

Dotsie · 11/01/2008 18:12

Hi all. Can I join you? I had DS2, Patrick on Weds at 1.15pm. Patrick weighs 7lb12 and was born at home, 10 days late. He's gorgeous, exceptionally cute, and i'm totally in love with him! Even his big sister (who apparently was disappointed when i phoned school with the news that the kids had a baby brother )is smitten. All went well, although the 1 1/2 hours it took to deliver the placenta was definitely the worst bit. The threat of getting transferred to hospital to remove the placenta was enough to shift it though . I awoke with contractions at 6am on Weds, my waters broke at 11.30, he was stuck behind my not quite fully dilated cervix for about an hour until my mw shifted things around a bit, and was born at 1.15. Both my others took 24 hours from 1st twinge to delivery, so 8 3/4 hours from start to finish was way better!!

Congrats to all of you who've had babies.

Susie - aren't people horrid. Just ignore them! Your photos are gorgeous!

Got to go, DS2 has woken up hungry... typical bloke!

God bless all!

toomanyshoes · 11/01/2008 22:54

Susie - tell em all to bugger off! Your DD is super cute by the way!

Naetha - hope the nips have improved?! Is the feeding getting any easier? I weighed myself too and now weigh less than I did when I got pregnant! Was overweight before though and the gestational diabetes meant I had to control my food really carefully. Gone a bit mad on the chocolate since Charlie was born though, must calm down but i missed it so much!

Dotsie - congratulations! Fab news, sounds like a great, speedy labour!

Off to feed yummy little DS - he just started sqeaking.. x

Naetha · 11/01/2008 23:37

Welcome Dotsie Must be quite a handful with a newborn and two older kids! You'll have to post some photos of him soon

Susie - ignore your parents comments. You've just had a major operation (as well as a baby fgs!) and it takes quite a while for the swelling to go down, regardless of weight. When I had my gall bladder out at 15 weeks, I looked about 6 months pregnant for a good three weeks until the swelling went down, and that was just keyhole surgery.

Feeding is getting easier - he's latching better, but still hurts like hell! Think he might be having a growth spurt as well, as he fed all yesterday evening / night, slept all morning and afternoon, and has just been on another feeding frenzy - not good for my nipples! He doesn't seem to have any problem with nipple confusion though as we're alternating between breast feeding and express/bottle feeds quite regularly and he never has a problem latching on again after a bottle.

I'm convinced he's smiled at me as well, but all the websites say they can't until they're 6 weeks old so I guess it was just wind...still cute as hell though .

Right off in the bath to ease my sore bits!

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Susiemj · 12/01/2008 06:38

naetha - our babes are dso similar - last night growth spurt / breast and bottle with no probs [tho we're using formula - will learn to express on monday] / we're all convinced she's smiling!!

thanks for moral support - you'd think parents might keep their mouths shut - but not mine!

rockdoctor · 12/01/2008 10:41

Hello everyone, mind if I join in? Baby Francesca was born on the 2nd Jan. She's my first and from the sound of it I got off lightly although she was born within 45 mins of us arriving at the hospital so no opportunity for anything stronger than gas and air even though I think I demanded an epidural at that stage. Quite a few stitches and I was in shock for a while afterwards.

Congratulations to everyone who has had their babies. I had been following the ante natal thread and feel like I know some of you already.

In a way it is good to read about your experiences with breastfeeding - at least I don't feel I'm on my own. Francesca seems to be latching on OK but then she immediately falls asleep and getting her to take much in is a battle. Have started expressing and offering a bottle which she emptied in 10 mins last night (compared to an hour or hour and a half via the direct route). Not sure I'm producing enough milk for her which the midwife says could be a function of my age (wrong side of 40). Anyone got any tips for keeping her interested in feeding once she's latched on?

Susiemj · 12/01/2008 10:52

hi rockdoctor - is he too warm? i take sabela's suit - and vest if necessary - off and go skin to skin.

i also tickle her feet / unfold hands / play choo choo with her arms to keep her awake if necessary.

also rocking her in mid air sort of like playing aeroplanes.

she's fine now but when she was really sleepy i just did anyhthing to annoy her to wake her up.

francesca lovely name - nearly called sabela francisca [spanish version]

sorry no capitals - babe in arms.