January 08 - shiny new-year babies!

[Naetha]

Thought I'd start this thread now as I think there's already a couple of people to go on it, and I know there'll be an awful lot more!!

Will update when I get a chance

well done sabinar - glad you had a good time. i'm with you on needng a manual for breasts! NAP! i did housework instead of nap yesterday. never again!

hi bwmum - didn't mean to ignore you before. we have the same problem at around 11pm. th books say it will settle. got her to settle after about 1am with pretty tight swaddling. good night after that - 3 feeds but straight back to sleep - in swaddle. no fussing.

hi dotsie!

Hi girls, great to be joining this thread and having read the previous posts as ever great to see how even when you think you are the only one suffering an issue in fact the rest of your mumsnet mates have already written a page of discussion on it!

My birth story! Was induced which was pants! They thought Cerys was 10 and a half pounds at 38/2 and so decided to induce at 39/1. I went into the hospital wed even and they gave me a massive dose of prostin at 8pm clearly believing nothing was going to work as she wasn't engaged and I was not dilated. By midnight I could not tell where 1 contraction ended and another began, I have NEVER experience pain like it, I had no idea what to do with myself, thrashing about, couldn't even lie down still for a VE and absolutely not to allow monitoring of baby and all this with NO DAMN PAIN RELIEF! They wouldn't give pethidine without monitoring baby, wouldn't give epidural till I was 3cm dilated and on labour ward (Still on antenatal ward and believe me noone else was sleeping on it that night!) About 3am they brought gas and air which caused me to projectile vomit in enormous quantities and thereafter was a kind of sop to my agony but no real effect.

Eventually at 6 they moved me to the labour ward and I was in so much distress a midwife I nearly called my baby after said I could have an epidural. They asked me if I wanted to call DH and I said no as I thought he wouldn't be able to watch me like this and I was so on another planet it was a matter of indifference to me whether he was there or not! They called him anyway which was great as by the time the epidural went in I returned to something like myself and the world seemed a kinder place. Seriously - why would anyone voluntarily try and do this without an epidural? It was amazing - it may have been that I had particularly bad contractions and right from the start but still - epidurals ROCK!

But even then I was only 2 cm dilated and as the day progressed that never really changed - they broke my waters (comical - like the coming of the flood - soaked DH who was standing in the wrong place!), nothing, waited hoursnothing. In the end at 1pm they offered me a C section saying as her head hadn't moved down at all they thought there wasn't much point trying any further and we jumped at the chance.

Taken fairly swiftly into the operating room and fab surgical team (All of them and my 2 midwives were AMAZING and I cannot praise their gentle kindness highly enough - I felt genuinely CARED for) delivered Cerys into the world at 2.27pm. She was 9 and a half pounds after all the fussing, so big but not worth so much panicking. She was 58cm long tho' and I think as Fluffy has said elsewhere this is something that they place undue weight on. DH and I started sobbing convulsively when we saw her and our lives have been transformed!

I think she is waking now, so I will return later and talk b-feeding and in the meantime congrats to us all for such wonderful happenings.

Hi everyone

Still persisting with breastfeeding and trying everything to keep her awake through the process. An hour or more to feed followed by half an hour on the breast pump is starting to get me down but I'm resisting the urge to run out and buy some formula.

Terrible night last night, possibly the downside of giving her a bottle of expressed milk last thing - she was then up from midnight to around 4am with what I presume were tummy pains as a result of guzzling the bottle down too quickly. Any recommendations for newborn bottles/teats?

btw - I had a very sensible midwife round on Saturday (maybe she just said what I wanted to hear). She had no problems with the occasional bottle of formula. Her only advice was to be aware that the more you substitute, the less milk you will produce yourself (ie. the laws of supply and demand) so you need to keep expressing regularly to keep the supply up.

Just to make it harder I have mother in law arriving Saturday. She has already proclaimed over the phone that we are obviously not feeding the baby enough - this on the basis of a casual mention that Francesca had been below her birthweight and a little jaundiced. Where she lives, this just wouldn't be allowed to happen!

Anyway, keep posting everyone, at least it's good to know I'm not on my own.

PS: barristermum - just seen your post. What a traumatic experience but well done and congratulations. Impressed that you didn't want them to call DH. My partner and I had discussed this and agreed that there were circumstances where neither he nor I would necessarily want him in the same room.

Can't believe they kept you on the ante natal ward for so long. Don't know where you were, but where I was there were no spare delivery rooms or post-natal beds at one stage. When we first arrived I was given some gas and air and then we were left alone until I announced I really needed to push and my partner had to run around the ward to find a midwife. We were shuffled out within 24 hours on the basis there were no complications and they needed the bed. And this a department they were threatening to shut down six months ago!

Been dying to read this thread off to get a big cup of tea and some biccies before I read every line of it!! It's my EDD today and though Beanie seems to have no arrival plans, the sheer excitement of reading about all my fav ladies' babies on here my tip me over the edge!

congrats bm! what an experience! isn't it all worth it in the end tho? i wish you very many happy hours of baby watching! is anyone else finding their lo's dreadful time-wasters? (ie you can't get on with anything cos you're compelled to just sit and watch them all the time!) or is it just me?

Hi everyone!!! I am finally starting to feel human again. Had a nightmare with the stitches, got an infection, then the stitches burst, so cant re stitch an infected area, so had to let heal itself! OUCH!!! So savlon baths and horse tablets for me for last 2 weeks and should be final dose today. Poor George gets some of them too, so has had upset tummy, but hopefully that will clear when i stop them.
Have tried to catch up, sorry some people are having problems with BFding, that is going suprisingly well for me, thank god, dont think i could have handled cracked nipples too!
George was 7 lb 2 oz when born and was over 8lb on friday when weighed, so he is a little piggy!
He still has his days and nights mixed up, loves sleeping for 3-4 hours during the day, but only goes 1.5-2 at night grrrr
I am putting him back in the moses basket everytime though, which after many more sleepless nights and i may give in!
It is tough doing it on my own, and the nights seem about 24 hours long, but he is worth it!
Hope youre all ok!!
I thought i would have a go at expressing today, my sister left me a manual pump, i took it apart and put it in the striliser, and now it wont work! , will have to get someone to come and have a look!
Will try and get on more often now, but guzzler dictates at th emoment, as im sure you all apprciate!
Big hugs to everyone though, cant believe we are all here now!! Looking forward to welcoming the others xxx

Barristermum - congratulations on the birth of Cerys. It sounds like you had a bit of a marathon birth. I hope you're feeling ok after the caesarean.

Dotsie - I have the same problem!!! We sit for ages after a feed with me just watching her pout and swallow and squirm gently. It's wonderful! I get quite sleepy myself while breastfeeding - I've read it's the result of the oxytocin hormone which is produced when the milk is let down - and sitting for a while afterwards just watching her is heaven.

Sabinar - I also found out yesterday that breasts get empty, for some reason it just hadn't occurred to me to check before. I really wish they'd tingle or something to let you know there was nothing left! Might go some way to explaining why I've had such problems with DD falling asleep when she's feeding too....

We went to have passport photos of DD taken today. We are going out to South Africa in the middle of March so she can meet all her grandparents and family so we need to get on with the passport applications. Photos have to be of the baby's head and shoulders, looking straight at the camera. Parent's fingers are not allowed in the picture (i.e. holding the head straight) and, for the SA passport, the baby's eyes need to be open. Now you try getting all that right with a week old baby who's not interested!! The result is a photo of a very cross looking baby with a massive frown - so I guess it's much like anyone else's passport photo then !

We had a really good night last night, she woke only once between 12 and 7 - at 3:30 for a feed and went back to sleep quite quickly after that. I was ecstatic to get so much sleep, now just hoping she can do it again tonight. I have so much energy today it's amazing.

DH is back to work on Monday so I'm making sure he does all the little handyman tasks that need to be done. He has been so good to me over the past week, fetched and carried and made tea, breakfast, lunch and dinner, listened to my worries and aches and pains and been in very good spirits throughout all of it. I'm trying to think of something nice to do for his last day "off", but I think his daughter burping in his face or waving her hands at him is likely to be better than anything I can think of!

Anyway, hope everyone is having a lovely afternoon with their LOs.

Ladies I can?t wait to join you I have so enjoyed reading all your stories, please send positive labour vibes my way!

Awen ? so glad you got the vbac you wanted hope you didn?t get an infection and that those stitches are hurting less (ouch!) still living in denial about those sorts of things ? should be doing the massage but just can?t work out how to get to the bits! Hope Samuel?s jaundice has cleared and that the feeding is going well, he is sooo cute!

Naetha ? congratulations on your bundle of joy! Ben is gorgeous, so much hair!! How is the feeding now and what about his tongue? It?s great that he?s taking to breast and bottle without the confusion you read of. How are the pussy cats coping?? I am so worried that mine are going to be so jealous. I hope the felliway plug ins for good fermones arrive before the baby does! Thanks for sharing your story, I have to say that some of my innards retracted when I read that he was back to back and about all those internals, the tear, the scary 3rd stage bleeding and the catheter (a phobia of mine too) I am sure you were perfectly reasonable to be agitated by the audience at that stage in your labour ? it is when aggression is almost expected isn?t it! your DH was brave for going down that end, I have forbidden DH from going down there! Your weight loss is really encouraging too well done!

Toomanyshoes ? missed your story but glad to hear Charlie is here you deserve that chocolate cake!!

Hey Fruitful how are things with you? How has your recovery been? I can?t believe that Theodore is over a month old now how is he? I?ll go and have a look at your birth story (even though I know already what a horrible, hard time you had of it all hon )

Beller ? no pics?? Must try and find your story hon. Am so sorry about the stitches and the infection, sounds like agony but great to hear that you are on the mend. George sounds like a dream guzzler! x

Susiemj ? your daughter is sooo cute ! I am furious with your Mum I can?t believe those comments about your weight, how awful!! How dare she!! Look what your body has just achieved! 9 months on, 9 months off ? that?s what they say, I would be being very rude back personally!! And why is she not looking after you instead of the other way round? I see she has gone now I got a medela swing breast pump and as I was a bit scared of the whole concept, I have tested it out already (I have no milk or anything but just wanted to see how it felt) I also figured that the stimulation might bring labour on.

Congratulations to Dotsie too !!

Rockdoctor ? congratulations! sounds like you had a quick birth, sorry about the stitches though my sis had to strip my nephew to keep him awake during feeding as he kept dosing off. Hope the MIL does not behave the way she sounded on the phone!

Gingeme ? need to see some pics hon (and I?ll need to track down your birth story!)

Amani ? hope those breast pains are easing up hon.

Mum2sons ? hello hope your baby turns up soon! Until then, I?ll be keeping you company on the AN thread

BWmum I remember you, congratulations on Hannah?s arrival! sorry to hear you are having some initial issues, hope things get better and you get a good pooey nappy soon I was amused by your passport story, I?ll have to do that too. What did you decide to do bed wise for SA? I remember discussing that with you months ago

Congratulations on your arrival Sabinar! so glad your home birth went so well! what?s his name?

Barristermum sorry that the birth was so dramatic and painful for you but I am so delighted for you that your little girl is here safe and sound. Couldn?t help laughing at the bath you gave your DH ? that?ll teach him to stand down that end!!

Beller - just saw your post. That infection etc sounds awful! I had stitches after my birth, which have been healing fine but I've still been incredibly uncomfortable with it so you must have been really sore. I hope you're feeling better and back to full health soon.

Afternoon all,

Barristermum - congratulations! So pleased Cerys is here safely, even if her entrance to the world was a little traumatic! How are you feeling after your section? Is DH off work for a while to help?

Beller - nice to have you back. Glad you're on the mend and BF going well. I wouldn't worry too much about putting George back in the moses at night if you think you'll get more sleep with him in with you. Can you BF lying down? My friend had a baby on her own and said that BFing lying down and co-sleeping were the things that helped the most as she could doze through feeds. Are you getting any sleep in the day?

Rockdoctor - I am mixed feeding and use Avent bottles with newborn teats. used them with DD too and no probs with her either. Used to use Infacol with DD though as she was really hard to wind and that really helped. Sounds obvious but are you making sure the bottle is angled so the teat is full the whole way through the feed? It's often how they gulp in lots of air.
Good luck with your MIL! Mine drives me up the wall (major cultural differences and very different ideas on how to bring up babies!!) but thankfully has been a bit less irritating this time (only a bit mind!)

All is well here, DS is still being a very easy going boy. Almost never cries and sleeps most of the time. Feeding every 3 hours or so but just goes straight back to sleep in his crib after so not too bad. Had trouble getting him latched on last night and he was getting a bit frantic so went straight to the bottle. Been trying to BF lots today to keep up supply. I have to say that having done both, BF is much harder! I am lucky that I don't get any pain but DS is so sleepy that keeping him awake for a feed is nearly impossible and it takes forever. Constantly rubbing his hands, tickling feet, blowing on him etc. Bottles go down in ten mins and I don't warm them so don't have to get out of bed for night feeds (take bottles of water and powder dispenser to bed and just make and shake when needed!) Will keep up the BF as long as poss but with my limited supply (due to breast reduction) I'm not sure how long it will last.

Big wave to everybody else! Off to have a shower now, am a bit back to front with getting everything done today!

i dont find it easy feeding lying down
(typing one handed while feeding!)
have put a couple of pics up xx

Yikes Beller - that sounds awful! Hope you are feeling better hun.

Ok - have to admit with this awful pain in my left boob (still - nothing is working and seeing HV on Thursday). Gave into formula last night for one feed (cried lots before giving in and felt sooo guilty afterwards).

Gingeme - DD2 sleeps with me on the bed at night, it's so much easier to feed and am too lazy to put her back into bed..

Welcome barristermum!

Naetha - You've not been on today but I've done it! Expressing is not so hard. And the baby was blissed out on easy to get to bm. Way better than formula.

Barristermum - well done you! Sorry to hear the induction was pants. Sounds awful. GLAD to hear the epidural is good as am consdering one for next time for a number of reasons. You sound like you're enjoying early motherhood. I'm loving it. She really is the apple of my eye. Lovely name by the way.

Rockdocotr - well done for persisting with bf. I have found Avent bottles / teats to be good. I would resist formula. Sabela has had it andI'm now trying to express my own milk. We found she needed burping for ages with formula and she puked half of it. She has only puked a little in 24 hours and she's drunk a ton of bm. Of course, there's nothing wrong with a bit of formula if it helps. It did me for a while.

Hello Beller - gorgeous pics of george. So sorry about the infection - must have been miserable. Was thinking of you going solo. Well done you. You look great too!

BWMum - lol at passport - we'll be doing that soon!

MrsMc - well done for testing out the pump beforehand. i got totally freaked by having to work it out and in fact mine's really easy. best to be prepared! Wehn trying to work out my steriliser i freaked because i thought it saud 3 hours to sterilise. it's 3 minutes..... best not to learn how to work equipment with a hungry newborn attached to you! thanks for moral support with my mum. That's just what she's like. Can you believe the only way to smooth it over is for me to now apologise to HER. it's really sticking in my craw this time. I said to myself i'd do it after6pm and where am i?

WE had a good night last night. I learned how to express. Sabela is much happier with bm than formula in the bottle and it seems to go down better. She had a bm topup at 12is and we fed every three hours or so but it was fine because she wasn't fretful at all in between so I got some sleep. Beginning to feel like we've turned a corner - but these are probably famour last words! Swaddling her pretty tight seems to have helped also.

Good luck to all you mummies for tonight!

Hello all, just popping in to say hello, and can anyone remember what sleep is?

Today we gave Theo his first bath, which he seemed to like. (you can tell this is baby number 3 can't you, first bath at 5 weeks old!).

I am soo exhausted and I'm not even doing most of it on my own - dh is "working at home", thank God! He has to go to London on Thursday, from 6am till late evening. Aagh!

Will try to find time to read properly soon.

Does anyone have milk supply issues btw? I have a stash of Domperidone tablets that I shan't be needing.

fruitful - we're on baby no. 1 and he still hasn't had a bath (2 weeks on). He goes swimming in the birthpool most days though, and we're counting that... not sure it's quite the same tho'! Will have to switch to baths once he either becomes grotty or we have to give the pool back - whichever comes first.

Anyone doing baby passport pictures, you might want to check out this website: www.paspic.com - you can take your own photos at home and upload them to the website and they'll send you out passport photos using your pictures for about £3. We're traveling to the States in March so this is what we're doing to get his passport pics.

Re: milk supply issues - I'm pretty sure the little fella is getting everything that he needs for now, but my boobs feel much smaller and more normal than I was expecting - esp. compared to when the milk came in. I'm starting to worry that there's not enough in there, esp. given that he's managing to drain a boob in one sitting and he's only 2 weeks old. Am hoping that they'll continue to provide enough for him as he gets hungrier and hungrier!

Our LO was also v sleepy at first and I was constantly poking, prodding and blowing at him - just in the last few days though he's really come good and we very rarely have to prod him at all now.

Beller - I don't find it v easy to feed lying down either. In fact, I find that I have to be really good about being in a good position to feed comfortably at all - I only do lying down if I'm completely exhausted from being kept awake by a hungry boy.

Susie - I can can so related to the 'good luck' wishes. I always get a little nervous about this time of night wondering what kind of night we'll have ahead of us. There's such a huge difference between a good night and a bad night - not just the night but the following day too. So, I second the good luck wishes. May all our babes put together some good hours of sleeping, and settle back to sleep quickly!

Oh wow Barristermum you realy did go through it. Glad it worked out in the end and you were looked after. Lol at dh getting soaked. That is what totaly amazed me with dh though he didnt have a drop on him seemed my bathroom mat was extremely absorbant.
I spoke to my friend this morning after such a shit night of bf non stop till 5am, she is a bf counciler and she suggested changing ds's bum every 2 hours to wake him then feed him. This way he will feed more in the day and not so much in the night. Ill keep you posted if this works. He realy is such a sleepy head baby.
Well talking of which Ill bid you all a good night.
Ill definately post some pics tommorrow.

Hi everyone...not been on here for a few days and gosh its been busy!! Fingers crossed I'll be joining you all sometime soon, but I'm going to keep on checking up on you in the meantime !

Its great to read everyones birth stories and about the early days with their lo's...it was all such a blur with ds due to lack of sleep, raging womb infection etc that its really great reading all your comments now in advance of number 2 putting in an appearance - sort of a combination of 'hurrah' when I read about the good bits and 'oh yes...' on the tougher bits....but all good to bear in mind in advance, I reckon

All of you have such beautiful babies...its really making me extremely broody Actually, DH is getting a bit addicted to seeing all the lovely baby photos too - definitely helping with the excitement levels in our household (as opposed to the 'panic' levels, which are already running quite high!!)

For those of you having trouble BF-ing - have you found out whether there's a bf counsellor (NCT or NHS) in your area? They're in short supply, but excellent when you can find them!

Also, I invested in an Ameda Egnell breastpump with DS, which was expensive but money really well spent - it had a double pump which meant i could do both breasts immediately after, for example, the morning feed when I had tons of milk, and that had the advantage of helping keep my milk supply up in advance of growth spurts and providing more than enough for the evening bottle which DH gave ds at 11pm, so I could freeze the extra (which really helped with peace of mind as well!). I did buy a manual pump as well but found that I got less than half the amount of milk with it and it took a lot longer to use....Anyway, apparently you can rent the electric ones from a lot of hospitals, so that might be a good option for anyone trying to increase their milk supply or who needs to express a lot?

Beller - so sorry to hear about the stitches, that sounds incredibly painful...v relieved to hear that your nipples are surviving ok tho

Right, thats a very long post when a) I don't have a baby yet so should be lurking rather than writing on this thread and b) its 11pm and I promised DH I'd try to get an early night for a change.

Love and hugs to all of you and wishing you all a calm and restful night, Fluffy xxx

Hello all

Congratulations on the expressing Susie - glad you didn't find it too difficult as BM is so much better for them at this stage than formula, and it's free! (not that I'm tight or anything!)

Barristermum - sounds like a bit of a nightmare birth, but you all seem to have come out of it fine! I'm very of you getting an epidural as they got me all wired up and then told me I had to start pushing!! I was not impressed!! Love the name as well - Cerys was going to be our LO's middle name if he turned out to be a she!

Rockdoctor and Barristermum - I'd second trying to express breastmilk if you can - so much better for them, not to mention cheaper!

Amani sorry you've had such trouble BFing - well done for carrying on as long as you did - every day helps, and don't let anyone make you feel guilty for stopping - they haven't had to go through what you have!

Beller - glad to see you're feeling better, although infected, burst stitches sounds horrendous! George really lives up to his gorgeousness - he really is cute!

Toomanyshoes - good to see you back on here

BWMum - passport photo palava sounds comical although hard work!! Sounds like an awfully big journey to take a newborn on though - hard work for everyone involved! I'm sure it'll be worth it though

MrsMc - good to see you here! Hopefully Ben's tongue tie will be sorted sooner rather than later - got a really good midwife on the case! The cats have been great - other than the first night where they stressed at the sound of crying, they have either ignored him, or just been mildly interested in him.

Currently sat here with DS in DH's arms absolutely wide awake - this is pretty much the only time today he's been awake for more than 20 minutes, and he's completely wired! It doesn't help that he's had a slightly hectic night - we changed him before his 11pm feed, and he wee'd AND pooed all over himself when DH was changing him (he managed to wee in his hair!), so we decided to put him straight in the bath, which he absolutely loved...right up until the point where he wriggled around and got a lungful of bathwater - cue much screaming and unhapphiness. Finally got round to giving him his feed and he wolfed it down...and promptly threw it all up in a very spectacular manner 10 minutes later. He's still rooting like mad, but every time I put him on the boob he just takes the nipple into his mouth and holds it there while he falls asleep. As soon as I move him to his moses basket he wakes up again. I think it's just going to be one of those nights.

MW and HV came today, he's now measuring 8lbs 15oz, so 5 oz above his birthweight, so despite all the feeding troubles, he has no problems putting the weight on! This MW was much more positive about getting the tongue tie sorted than the other one, so hopefully things should get going sooner rather than later Whether that actually affects his latch at all I don't know, but I'm sick and tired of breastfeeding hurting like f*ck.

My mum has decided (surprise surprise) that her visit which was originally going to be 1 week, then 4 days, then a weekend, then a day trip isn't going to happen at all in the foreseeable future. I can't say I'm not surprised, just disappointed. Again. She can't have access to the car in the next few weeks, and apparently it would have cost her £200 to get a train up (I checked - it came out at £68 by my calcs, not including her senior railcard). What's really pissed me off, is that she's going on a mini-break to London the weekend after next, so obviously not that hard up, yet when I speak to her on the phone she just goes on about how she misses me and how if I want she'll be there right away for me. I'm almost tempted to put her to the test, but in all honesty I don't want her here. And I'm tired of having my hopes raised then lowered again.

Right off to bed now as absolutely knackered - thankfully DS has settled, although asleep on my lap so no doubt will wake when I put him in the moses basket!

Hi ladies - I've just posted this on 'development' but if you have ideas I@d be REALLY GRATEFUL. You all know how fabulous DH has been throught my pregnancy and he's been just as good with SAbela. It's breaking my heart that we're having this problem:
This is the problem

My DH has been fantastic with Sabela. In the early days, I had a prolonged hospital stay and was quite immobile and DH took over most of the care and comforting. ALl the midwives thought he was wonderful.

Now we're home. The baby is with me most of the time. She is settled into her own routine - not of my forcing/shaping. She feeds between 2-4 hour and then is swaddled and - for me - settles straight back to sleep again.

Our problem is that DH takes her between midnight and whenever she wakes up so i can get a few hours of kip in for the night shift. If my experience the reat of the time is anything to go by, she would sleep until 2-3. BUT my experience may not be anything to go by because with DH she will not settle, screams, cries, demands, drinks all the milk i've expressed etc.

Now DH really is good with her - I've seen him! He's getting a bit demoralised though when he sees her go straight off to sleep for me.

My question is: what is going on?

Is she:

playing him up because she knows he is not me and that he'll walk and jiggle her as she loves as he did when in hospital?

does she only want me? for husband

just happens that that is her wakeful time?

or something else?

Any ideas welcomed. Save poor DH's enthusiasm!

Hey Susie - we had something a little bit similar with ds, when he was a few weeks older. It was a combination of having got used to being with me during the day (my DH, like yours, did most of the care for the first 2 weeks, but then had to go back to work), and that he associated his daddy with play time rather than sleep. DH also found it really demoralising...

Main thing was to stick at it, and make sure that DH applied exactly the same routines etc that I did....and try our best to increase the amount of time DH spent with DS when possible.

Really hard tho. I don't believe that 12am-3am is her automatic waking time...and if it is, then you probably want to change that anyway !

Are you co-sleeping? Just confused what you mean by 'DH takes her from midnight to whenever she wakes up' - how does she know?

Good luck!! xx

hi fluffy - thanks for response. she usually is asleep somewhere between 11 and 12. we put her in her carry cot as normal after a feed downstairs with DH. with me at any other time she would then sleep for 2-3 hours. with dh always screaming within an hour.

do i change her waking times by keeping her more awake during the day?

how do i do that? !!!!!
i've tried to keep her awake just now in my arms but she looked knackered in about 30 mins and nodded off [i tried changing her to wake her]

singing to her made her awake for a minute then asleep!

do i need one of those baby gym things?

blimey - so much i don't know. thought you just did the basics at first and tried to sleep as much as possible..

Mixedmama had a baby boy on 11th Jan at 1126pm, 11 days late. Weight 8 pounds 12 ounces. Both mum and baby Ediz are well.

Susiemj - I find taking DD2 in different rooms of the house helps keeps her awake as she usually becomes facinated with something in the room. MW suggested stripping all of clothes off to keep her awake. I've got a baby gym aswell and this usally keeps occupied for 10 mins - ish

Anyone else getting 'peanuts' out when they express? Tried doing it a few times when boobs felt full and got only 1.5 ounces out each time

Hello ladies ? just lurking!

Toomanyshoes ? I can empathise on the MIL front, my in laws are driving me insane. Since Christmas they have been treating me like some sort of sacred creature and are constantly trying to hug, kiss and paw me which is really odd as they don?t behave like that with DH or his sis, I had to tell MIL to stop especially as she claimed to have gastroenteritis!! They keep turning up and looking at me expectantly, makes me furious ? especially as DH and his sis were both 10 days late! Glad to hear DS is such an easy going boy

Ah Beller ? George is gorgeous and you look amazing!

Amani ? don?t feel bad hon, you are doing your best. Hope you feel much better soon x

Susiemj ? well done on the expressing I decided to try out my breast pump again, all in the name of the eviction process as I?d read that nipple stimulation can help ? it felt very odd I have to say and I was horrified/amazed to find that one side did actually express something, colostrum I guess, I then felt like I?d done something wrong as was wasting the precious stuff ? I?ll make more won?t I?! I have been trying to read up on all my ?equipment? DH and I were in hoots as I tried to master the early folds of my Karri me sling with my big bump and a teddy bear ? don?t apologise to your Mum hon, try and forget her for now and enjoy Sabela glad you had a good night. Can?t begin to help with the Daddy dilemma but hope you get some words of wisdom.

Hey Fruitful

Sabinar ? that?s a great tip about that website for the passport photos

Fluffy ? my heart almost stopped when I saw your post on here, I thought you?d popped!!

Naetha ? good to hear that you have a good MW on the case with Ben?s tongue and it?s great to hear that the cats are coping ? are you locking them out of your room at night? Mine are still sleeping on my feet. Sounds like you had a very busy evening!! Sorry about your Mum hon mine won?t be coming to see me either.

Congratulations to Mixedmama