Dec 06 - a new one for Indith and her rubbish dial up!

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New thread for our incessant chatter!

Ah, Mag, a vomiting bug... hope they all get well soon, and you don't catch it. I'm so used to non-bug throwing up, I didnt' realize your LO was actually ill - sorry.

Oli, does your dh work away all week? I'd find that hard - mine is working p/t atm, and that included a couple of evenings till late-ish, and those make a huge difference to my chocolate-eating, knackeredness/tolerance levels

I don't know, re menopause, but truthfully it wouldn't feel that awful if it was...a bit early, maybe, but not hugely. And I'm very very lucky to have TWO dds, when I thought I'd never have any LOs at all a few years ago

Eli, he's away Mon - Fri but does manage to get home most Wednesdays, unless he has meetings, etc which, typically, he does this week. His boss is arranging for him to work a 4 day week, hopefully starting next week if they can rejig the timetable by then. It'll mean long days for him when he's away but will give us a 3 day weekend which will be fantastic and more than compensate for the 4 nights away.

Yes, can see 3 day weekend worth it

Hey ho, half term's over though - Viral Soup and early mornings again

Oh yes, back to reality. Speaking of which, I really must go and make ds1's lunch for tomorrow and go to bed. Ds2 will be up by 5am and probably several points in between.

Ooh, ooh - DD2 crawled today It was only a few paces (?) but it was forward and on all fours! I'm so proud.

She really is the most contented little thing. She does this great trick of shaking hands if you offer her your right hand. She just shakes away and grins from ear to ear, showing off her two tiny white teeth.

I'm definitely having an 'I'm glad I'm a Mum' day

Thank you all for your kind words over DD2, made me well up, hadn't really been posting on our thread cause I knew I would have to say something and then it would all be real (denial moi...nooooo) The only positive is that she was such a porker to start with she is still on the 75th percentile (was on 99.8th!) but apparently if she drops another percentile line then they will really start to worry.

Magnolia You have my sympathies we all had what sounds like the same bug a few weeks ago and ewww it was just awful people throwing up all over the shop, it was then I made the decision we are either having a 2nd loo installed at some point in the next few years or we are moving!!

Oli she is pretty happy most of the time, tends to be miserable every day between 4 and 6, but I think that is cause she refusing to have a nap most afternoons and is just plain knackered

Yeah I have given up all pretense of trying to feed her healthily and am just trying anything that she will eat that doesnt make her throw up. She is ok eating rice crispies but cheerios make her gag.

Eli - My period (sorry just can't call it AF) came back a few months back and I am still BF'ing rather a lot still funnily enough but its been a bit all over the place

Well done baby BP! Could feel the pride and pleasure even second hand, hope you have another day like that today

WB, I confess I grit my teeth when I type 'AF' - suppose its become habit after years of being on online fertility support groups, where periods are mentioned in every paragraph Glad LO is still up there centile-wise, and happy enough! dd has gone from 50th to 9th, since we started weaning, but she seems ok...I do give her a lot of milk for a nearly-one yr old, I think, though...hmm, perhaps I should visit the HV.

Carpets being cleaned downstairs today (couldn't face whole house in one go) so we moved ALL the toys - and thats some - from the living room into the kitchen. The dds, bless 'em, are revelling in the space and do not miss the toys one bit: makes me wonder what on earth we're doing lining up more for Xmas and Bdays

Morning Guys.

Lol at Eli's kids not missing the toys. Amazing isnt it! My DD1 is quite happy to donate some of her toys to DD2 now. DD2 is getting a complete Little People Castle for her birthday as DD1 is clearing it to make room for anything Father Christmas might bring

LOL about the toys. I regularly go through DD1s room and purge the toys. She hasn't missed one yet

I am going to ask for clothes instead of toys for dds as they desperately need clothes and have so many toys. I was quite miffed that all of the toys dd1 got for her birthday were taken out of boxes as I could have recycled them as presents

WB, It's quite scary seeing your babys' weight drop down the centile chart. It happened with dd1, even though her weight was being monitored by GP fortnightly. {hug} for WB and baby WB.

Lol Margo I'm going for toys not clothes as I'm sick of Ds being dressed by MIL! Wonderful that she buys him so much stuff but she has a thing about really chavvy tracksuits........

At least toys I can be more specific and he can get a few of the things that it is nice to have but I probably wouldn't buy him. Actually ds hardly has any toys at all, he could probably do with a few bits and bobs

Well done baby BP for crawling

Awww, wb, you're having a tough time of it aren't you? {hugs} I can't get my head around babies throwing up all day, I really can't. Poor little things. Isn't it meant to get better once they hit one or is that not always the case?
Mags, returning your {{hugs}}, hope she hits the bucket!
Re: presents (oh, god!) those with 2 or more I think you just dread anyone giving you any more plastic, don't you? Although I am considering some musical instruments for ds2 who lurrrves making a noise and a wheelybug cos they're so cute and I always wanted one for ds1. With both birthday and christmas within 2 weeks I am absolutely dreading the influx although I've tried to v.strict this year with gp's. Clear the shelves now!

We don't need any more toys or clothes here, DD2 has all of DD1's and she had enough for 2 if not 3 children as she was the first GC on both sides of the family and my MiL bought almost an entire wardrobes worth for her after I had alreay done so

DD1 I have asked for swimming lessons for Xmas as she has co-ordination issues and finds things that require both hands or both feet working together difficult (my mother would say this is because she never crawled properly, this is a major co-ordination milestone noted by SN teachers) and DD1 will start swimming at school next school year and I think she will struggle so want to get a headstart where it isnt her friends watching! (for example she can't peddle a bike as she can't figure out the co-ordination between her feet!)

DD2 I am at a bit of a loss over what to suggest, and am thinking I am may suggest they put money into her Child Trust Fund

BP - Wish my DD1 didn't notice I try and purge her toys but she is a hoarder (wonder where she got that from ) and always notices, she can name who gave her each soft toy. Though she has been quite happy to pass things on to Hannah.

Does anyone else's 3-4 yr old, who has a crawling, grabbing younger sibling, find it harder now? dd1 and I had a heart to heart last night, because she was feeling SO angry with dd2 all weekend. She was much better after she'd told me how much she hated and loved her little sister (very confusing, poor thing ) and we agreed the stuff in her room is not to be shared, but everything downstairs is fair game.

Its only been the past few days, I think dd2 has had a developmental spurt of some sort that makes her much more of a force to be reckoned with

As for Xmas and (both) birthdays coming up...I was thinking dd2 needs nothing, as she has all dd1s, but now I'm wondering!

I'm ahving the same dilemmas with Xmas and B'days. Ds1 is sorted as he's getting a bike as joint present for both but dd I have no idea about and ds2 just doesn't have a hope - we just don't need anything more, clothes or toys wise. I think the PILs may pay for a term of Tumble Tots for him, like they did for Dd's birthday but I really don't know what else we could get.

WB, your mum is right about the crawling and dd1's co-ordination, the crawling develops the L/R crossover in the brain. There is an excellent book by Madeleine Portwood that is full of games and exercises for improving it though. I used it for a few of the children I taught who had co-ordination difficulties. It's things like lying on a skateboard and pulling yourself along using alternate arms, balancing on one leg and using the opposite arm to touch your head. Can't remember any more but it's worth a look. It's here. Please don't be alarmed by the title, I'm not implying anything at all, the book just has some helpful ideas generally.

BP, hooray with the crawling, have you ordered the eyes for the back of your head yet?

Reports of my daughter crawling were sadly exaggerated. She hasn't done much crawling today, preferring her lurching, lying-down-sitting-up-again method of moving around.

What's this about crawling? DD1 was never a crawler (bum shuffled instead), and DD2 is really not co-ordinated at all yet. Should I be worrying?

Interesting about the not crawling/coordination thing WB. DS never crawled (bum shuffled) and doesn't have physical coordination problems but it's probably affected (though what came first - a chicken/egg dilemma) his understanding problems re speech as it's the left hand side of the brain that controls this. Was recently told to do 'Brain Gym' exercises with him - similar to Oli's suggestions. Can link if you are interested.
Don't worry BP. My advice is never worry until you have cause to. Children are a big enough worry without the added stress of the SN label

Re presents/clothes. My DCs have a whole playroom full of stuff. Clothes piled up in cupboards all over the place too I am so looking forward to turning it into a dining room, as I threaten on a daily basis when toys magically appear in every room throughout the day and I can't see the floor anymore. Why does that happen, they are out at school/nursery for most of it? Amazing

bp - it might take a bit of time to build confidence crawling, and if she's quicker her own way then she'll probably stick with that.

FWIW - My DH didnt crawl and he's pretty clever and much more spatially & physically co-ordinated than me.

Both DDs ill. I'm only here to block it out for a few mins

OK, I need to wibble

GP has decided that my hiatus hernia is not calming down enough now i am no longer pregnant and I am now booked to have an endoscopy at the end of Nov. They will sedate me to do it so I can't bf for 24hrs afterwards, can't drive blah blah blah.

Letter arrived over a week ago telling me to phone and book the date, but hadn't done it till now cause I don't want to go and I'm scared and thats really silly, but I am.

Don't know why I'm so scared have had my tonsils out and all 4 wisdom teeth and had exploratory surgery when I didnt stop bleeding for 4 years and I didnt get like this with any of them.

It's just not getting any better, is it wb? Doesn't matter why you're scared, just be nice to yourself about it, many people get nervous about surgery (god, I would!). Have something nice to look forward to a few days after it & focus on that instead? Easy to say, I know {{hugs}}
FGS, hope dd's better by tomorrow, how are other poorly lo's??
Eli, yes, I think ds1 is getting increasingly frustrated and your post reminds me that I ought to be more protective of his stuff with ds2. I don't think I've been very understanding of that. We were thinking of a play table for bday/christmas so ds1's 'constructions' with bricks and so forth don't get grabbed at by ds2. They're so expensive tho! We had intended to move ds2 into ds1' bedroom and turn the other bedroom into a spare room/playroom. DS1 quite enthusiastic about it, but wonder how he'll feel once ds2 really crawling and grabbing more things? We really want them to share as dp & his brother did.

It does feel a bit like on thing after another at the moment health wise.

We made the rule that DD1's room was a safe haven from DD2 trying to eat her toys and anything in the lounge is fair game, though I probably spend more time retrieving DD2 toys from her big sisters room where she has been playing with them or telling her to let DD2 play with her own toys but then she quite a lot older so probably not quite the same.

My mum is a SN teacher so she always watches all the milestones from that POV, its not that if they dont crawl they will have problems but more that its more likely they will and when they assess children its one of the pointers along with lots of others

WB, I think you're being very brave. Wibble away, dear - that's what we're here for

WB...dd3 has (undiagnosed - except for many voices of agreement on MN) silent reflux. We assume it was that which was causing the wet acidic burps she was having, as well as the unusual feeding position and the small amounts of milk she was willing to drink. Although she doesn't sound as sensitive as your lo, she's been progressing painfully slowly on the weaning. Do you have problems feeding her when you're out? I've just about given up!

Sorry to hear about everyone's sickyness - we are still recovering from a cold, but it'll be interesting to find out how long the stomach bug takes to hit here

And i can def sympathise with being scared of anaesthetic. I refused to have some minor op to find out why i wasn't conceiving but totally chickened out