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August 2007- More boys than girls? Our beautiful summer babies are arriving at last!

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bananabump · 02/08/2007 23:28

Thought I'd start a thread to give somewhere for Jem, Washersaurus and Bresha to discuss their little ones and make all those of us waiting impatiently jealous!

Who will be next??????

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tasha21 · 14/11/2007 13:39

just got a letter from hospital saying lo has an appointment tomorrow morning to see plastic sergeon dont they realise that i have three kids and need to arrange someone to watch the other 2 which is near impossible!!!

My2Weegirls · 14/11/2007 14:35

that's rather short notice! could your DP take time off?

tho it's good that they want to see him

JamesAndTheGiantBanana · 14/11/2007 16:18

Just got back from dentist... for the third time since joining the practice she just put yet another temporary filling in and said "you'll need xrays next time" (I thought this WAS next time- stupid woman)

I've just got home and the damn temporary has vanished (eaten?) so that was a big waste of time.

James is refusing to burp today. It's like he's gone on strike. He's had three feeds since we got up, and no burps. His tummy is like a balloon, he's just screamed for his bottle, then when I gave him it he had two ounces and refused the rest because he's so full of wind. I feel like I've been patting and rubbing him for about an hour now so I've stuck him bolt upright in his pushchair til they emerge.

I'm fed up today, I'm being made absolutely miserable by eczema all over me, it seems to be worst of all around my eyes, mouth and hands (all the handwashing in antibacterial stuff before feeds etc) but I also have a coldsore and thrush, it's like my body is having a total freakout. I have a doctors appointment but it's next week, so I have a week of this to come, and I'm embarassed about going out with a rash on my face. bah

My2Weegirls · 14/11/2007 16:26

just off to get dd1 but big hug james

GillL · 14/11/2007 16:46

pink - ds sleeps normally from around 10-11pm til around 7am. He has his last bottle between 9 and 10pm.

Poor you banana. Hope it get's better soon.

conkertree · 14/11/2007 18:33

poor you banana - sounds like not much fun for you just now.

for sleeping - ds is now going for about 3 1/2 hours between feeds over night, but occasionally he sleeps through for 6 hours. think he is just unpredictable.

i know the weaning is early but he is big, and it was unbelievable how much happier he suddenly was in the days following him starting the food. Hadnt noticed quite how much he had stopped smiling until he started again, and it actually made me feel guilty for not giving him food a bit sooner. Will stick to simple baby rice and banana etc for now though. Given that the advice has changed so much in the last 20 years about when to wean, its one area where i think your own instinct has to count for a lot, and it was such a marked change that i dont doubt my decision (well actually i must a little bit or i wouldnt be trying to justify myself on here).

still havent caught up properly so will go now and try and read some more.

stretchmarks · 14/11/2007 20:46

HI all,

The only predictable thing about DS2's sleep is that he goes to bed about 7ish. At the moment he is waking twice for a feed - last night it was 1 and 4. He is settling well after his feeds though so I don't feel too bad although I was asleep last night at 8.30pm!!!

James I hate the dentisit too. I only started going again after I had DS1 and I needed a filling - even then it took until a week before his 1st birthday before I went and I had to keep reminding myself that if I could survive a torn vag then I could survive a small filing

JamesAndTheGiantBanana · 14/11/2007 21:07

lol stretchmarks...good point! I'll just have to be brave.

Thanks for the tea and sympathy guys, I always ahve eczema to some extent but when I have an all over flare up it does get me down, I feel like a bit of a leper at the moment but it'll be gone in a few days, nevermind!

Conker I agree that a lot of parenting is about knowing your own baby, they don't all develop at the same rate, after all. I'm n0ot sure exactly how long I'll wait to start weaning James but I always envisioned doing it when he starts to eye/grab at my food. We're going to be doing blw anyway so he'll need to be nearer six months for that. Can't be bothered with all that pureeing malarky!

James has been bathed and fed, and has been asleep since 8.30pm in his pram rather than his cot as he's been kicking up a fuss at being left alone upstairs, so I think I'll do this for a few days until he's happy with this routine of going to sleep earlier, then try the cot again in a week or so.

lizziemun · 14/11/2007 21:16

DD2 had her first lot of injections today, I forgotton how bad it makes you feel .

I thnk we been lucky so far. DD2 has her last feed between 6.30pm and 7pm then goes to bed by 7pm and wakes between 2 and 3am for a feed then wakes between 6am and 6.30am.

DD1 used to wake at 11pm and 3am every night until she was 18mths when cut her 11pm feed. She would still wake up a 3am until she was 2yrs 6mths.

GillL · 14/11/2007 21:31

I'm down to my pre-pregnancy weight now I just have to work on my pre-pregnancy weight from when I had dd. Still have a stone and a half to go

conker - you don't have to justify yourself. As banana said, they all develop at a different rate. Your baby is very hungry and it's not like you can upgrade your boobs to hungry baby milk. If your ds is happier and settles better then that's all that matters. They used to recommend weaning at 16 weeks up until a few years ago (I think it was 16) and our babies aren't far off that now.

Banana - how does blw work? I used to puree for dd and it was very labour intensive. I'm getting a Beba Babycook for him to make it easier this time but it might be worth giving blw a go alongside the purees. Mum will be doing most of the work though as I'll only be feeding him solids at weekends in the beginning.

tasha21 · 14/11/2007 21:32

my2weegirls-yea hes off tomorrow but will be coming with me anybody here want 2 little monsters i keep trying to pawn my kids off but nobody is having it.

conker- instinct is the best way i started ds1 on solids at 3 months as he was a big baby and making me feel guilty by eyeing my food and he was the best eater out of all of them.

bought a trial reusable nappy today has it on now, wish me luck with the custard!

lo still isn't down for the nite, is lying in my arms!

tasha21 · 14/11/2007 21:38

james- poor you, ive had temps in for couple of years now as im always pregnant
still trying to catch up here not easy with one hand

tasha21 · 14/11/2007 21:40

gill- well done. ive just give all my size 10 jeans to mum gonna stick to size 12, my choice ofcourse

My2Weegirls · 15/11/2007 10:36

conker - you don't need to justify yourself to anyone (or yourself). each baby is different and you know him. you've actually made me think about starting DD sooner (she's still off the scales for both her height on weight - and that's the ones based on formula feeding).

gill - the Beba Babycook looks good - hadn't heard of them before.

my dd1 hated lumps (and still does) and would never eat lumpy food as a baby - always had to have everything really smooth - so time consuming and she would never touch jars that had lumpy food.

james - poor you, hope it clears up soon

tasha - hope all goes well this morning

dp is working at home today so he keeps interupting our routine of playing and me having coffee!

JamesAndTheGiantBanana · 15/11/2007 10:42

Oh my god, I've woken up today with massively swollen eyes, they're almost shut and I look like I've been punched. Bloody eczema. I've demanded a doctors appointment today, I can't go on like this!

Well, after J going to bed at a reasonable hour (8.30pm) he had me up at 1.30am and 5.30am. Might try doing a dreamfeed with him as we go to bed if he carries on like that. Getting up at 1.30am when you go to bed at 11pm is a bit of a killer!

JamesAndTheGiantBanana · 15/11/2007 11:23

Sorry Gill didn't notice you'd asked about BLW. Basically instead of spoonfeeding babies pureed food, you give them pieces of solid food as big as their fist in easy to hold or chip shapes, and then they pretty much just feed themselves! Apparently at first they just sniff the food or wave it about and strangle it, but eventually they try putting it in their mouths. Not much gets eaten at first in most cases but then they start to swallow little bits and learn quickly from then onwards.

Obviously milk is still their main source of nutrition or the first year. Solids are introduced slowly and left up to the baby to decide what they want and how much, so it's like demand feeding but with food, really.

Most people who do this start their babies off on lightly steamed or raw veg like broccoli (natural handle) sweet potato or carrot, and then move on to fruit, bread, ricecakes, pasta, lumps of cheese, and eventually eggs, meat, fish, tomatoes etc. What's really interesting about blw is that they say you shouldn't give babies small foods like raisins/grapes/peas etc to eat until they can pick them up between finger and thumb because this development of the pincer grip coincides with them being able to handle small things like that in their mouths without choking.

I think it sounds like a good approach because it gives babies their independence (no grabbing the spoon) so they're in control of what they eat and how much. Less chance of overfeeding them so less chance of them getting overweight. Plus as you're giving them single foods if there's a taste they don't like it's easy to identify rather than giving them a mashed up mulch of veg and wondering why it was rejected. Plus they can learn about flavours and smells and colours and textures, rather than just having the food shovelled in, smooth and "anonymous" iyswim.

Plus they learn about eating with the family, improve their manual dexterity, and best of all: you can just feed them from your plate, so you can still eat out in cafes etc without taking pots of special food or worrying that baby will get bored. Just pass them some bread and butter or some cucumber etc and let them happily feed themselves while you eat.

You need to wait until the baby can sit up unaided (usually at 6 months old) so that any food they take in can come back out if they gag. If they are in a reclining chair the food wouldn't come back out as easily so it would be more dangerous. Apparently they gag a bit at first as they get used to putting solid lumps in their mouths but it's not the same as choking- they're just learning how far they can put something into their mouth. And their gag reflex gets further and further back as time goes on until it's where ours is and they're fine.

Apparently it's really messy but the babies love it. There's a lady called Aitch on MN who has a website all about it called babyledweaning.com There's some brilliant pictures on there of babies tucking into all sorts of food and drinking from real glasses/using spoons/forks at absurdly young ages.

Hope this long ramble helps, Gill.

I'm off to bathe my big fat eyes.

GillL · 15/11/2007 11:50

Thanks, that's great. I'll check out the web site later. Did you get to the doctors? I hope you were able to get something to help. It sounds awful

JamesAndTheGiantBanana · 15/11/2007 15:10

Thank Gill, I've just got back from the doctors. Saw a locum (rather dishy black guy actually- typical that I have to show him all my rashes) who was better than my usual grumpy old git of a GP. I've come back from the chemist loaded with lotions, potions, and tablets so hopefully I should see a big improvement soon.

The doctor asked if I'd been in contact with any latex recently (oo-er!) and I realised I that yesterday the dentist had held the side of my mouth with her latex glove clad fingers, and when I got home it was a bit swollen and itchy... and then I got my big fat eyes! Yet another allergy, wahey! not! But at least I know now.

stigofthedump · 15/11/2007 20:15

Hi james, sounds like you need a nice cool face soak and a few good nights sleep. Oh well, back to the real world. You aren't alone, Caitlin is great at going to bed at 7pm now (only so ds's big jealousy problem gets a bit better when he see's her off to bed before him), but then she's up either twice or 3 times before morning most nights. Even more annoying is that she's done a 10 hour stint twice so we know she's capable. Ho hum. Sure it'll sort itself out eventually. I have a friend who just snorts when I talk about lack of sleep and says she didn't get a full night for 5 years with her twins. Grrr. I reckon when I go back to work I'll be so knackered that I won't hear any waking at night so that will be problem solved .

stigofthedump · 15/11/2007 20:17

Oh and just checked out your blw site, sounds really interesting and common sense, think I'll give it a go. Memories of hours spent pureeing and freezing and trying to think up interesting combos for the ice cube trays. Much rather let her try what I'm having.

tasha21 · 15/11/2007 20:42

james-that sounds awful, i know wat its like to have rashes soooo frustrating
complete nightmare at hospital, got to the hospital just before 10 and his appointment was at 10.15, had to wait in the que for the childrens hospital for an hour, then went to department we normally go to and there was no receptionist so waited 15 minutes for her to tell me i was in the wrong part, then went to right part and i had to wait an hour cause we were late!!
anyway was worth it im more informed about his first operation now. poor wee man has to get tape put across the open part of his mouth to stretch the skin.

tasha21 · 15/11/2007 20:48

yea just looked at the site myself does sound good and alot simpler and thats always good. ill get a look at it in more detail when lo stops crying with wind

tasha21 · 15/11/2007 20:50

hes really not liking this tape

GillL · 15/11/2007 23:05

That sounds like an ordeal you had Tasha. Glad you're happy with the treatment though. Poor little man.

Dd was a pain today. Mum said she refused to go into pre-school. I've said I'll take her both days next week as I'll make her go. They say she's fine soon after she's gone in so she's just testing us. This evening she went to bed at 8:30 but didn't go to sleep til 10:30 and that's only cos I agreed to stay with her.

JamesAndTheGiantBanana · 16/11/2007 10:56

Yeah, sounds like she is testing you, I'm not looking forward to the toddler stage, I can be a bit of a pushover.

Tasha, sorry to hear your lo doesn't like the tape. He might forget about it once it's been on a while?

Brilliant night with James. Fed him, bathed him then fed him again, he dropped off at 9pm and I didn't hear from him til 7am. Quick feed and nappy change and he fell back asleep straight away til 9.30am. Why can't he do that every night?