August 2007- More boys than girls? Our beautiful summer babies are arriving at last!

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Thought I'd start a thread to give somewhere for Jem, Washersaurus and Bresha to discuss their little ones and make all those of us waiting impatiently jealous!

Who will be next??????

uki - I've actually only got 2 at the moment but I've always wanted a big family.

I have a dh who is obsessed with sleep so, if he wants at lay in at the weekend then he knows he has to let me have one too. In the week I tend to go back to bed after ds's first morning feed. Normally gets me an extra couple of hours. It's only really beneficial if dd isn't there to disturb me though.

my2weegirls - ds was only 4 or 5 inches shorter than the moses basket so we put it in the loft and got a new cot last weekend. I prefer it as the moses basket was always right in the way.

Any day is fine with me for the meet up. I can drop dd off at mum's. Any ideas where it would be?

yup am also thinking the crib will have to go soon. think i'd rather be in with ds when he gets his jabs. i stayed with him in the hospital when he was getting blood taken and i think i would worry about him more if i left the room. will pick up some calpol today to be ready.

its my birthday tomorrow so going to have a picnic (~unless it rains~) with dh, purplerabbit and her 2 ds. trying to spend as much time as possible outside before it gets too cold.

and about bras - i have kept mine on during bedroom action. prefer that to the possibility of making the bed smell of milk, although i do find that they are not leaking as muich now so supply must be better regulated than at first.

have named changed at last!

LO is also fastly growing out of his Moses basket but dont want him to go into cot yet as he will have to be in his own room and he is still so young for that!

Happy birthday for tomorrow CT, it was mine yesterday! we even went out for a meal without the kids - had a nice time as my sister took me shopping to buy some new clothes!

had to laugh at all the talk of bedroom action we havent done the deed yet but im a bit paranoid as i had so many stitches that i dont want it to hurt, did after ds1 but again i had stitches!

Feeding here lately has been a nightmare as LO feeding every 2 hours, he has 10 oz ever 2 hours so i have put him on the hungry milk and what a difference, we have a contented little boy at last who has been going between 3-5 hours for a bottle! and seems to sleep sounder during the day aswell!

Also getting a few smiles now which make me

Woah pink, your baby is having 10oz of milk every 2 hours? Wait, is he significantly older/larger than James? (born 9th aug, currently weighs about 9lb 5oz) I mostly bf James so don't know what he's getting, but he has two or three bottles a day with 4oz in each. Do you think I'm not giving him enough ?

Well I've had two bad mother moments today (confess here, make me feel better!) firstly he woke up with a blocked nose and couldn't feed so I sat him in his swingchair, put some olbas oil on a tissue and put the tissue near his feet so he could breathe it in but it wouldn't be too overpowering for him. Turned my back for two mins to make a coffee and he started to cry...when I went in he had the olbas oil tissue in his hand and was attempting to stuff it into his mouth, and screaming at the smell!

It did unblock his nose though.

Second BMM (Bad Mother Moment) was while I was feeding him and I noticed I'd broke a nail. Went to trim it, and the nail clipping boomeranged into the air, and landed right in his eye. I panicked and tried to get it out with a cotton bud dipped in boiled water, but he just screwed his eye up. In the end I thought I'd end up hurting his eye with repeated attempts to get it out so I squirted some breastmilk in his eye (sterile and antibacterial with healing qualities, they say!) and left it to come out by itself, which thankfully it has, after two hours of me wondering whether to call NHS direct and be the original panicky new mother.

Poor James!

Thats the thing banana, dont know where he is putting it all, hardly pukes any back!

He yonger than James, he was born on the 27th and weighed in last week at 10lb so not huge either!

I was forever leaving ds1 in pooey nappies as when he cried i never thought to check that!

Like to add, would love another meet up! i can only do Monday's and Tuesdays at the mo!

..I had to do it... Pink made me realise it's about time I admitted I am no longer growing.....

Happy birthday pink and conker. Your sister sounds lovely taking you shopping pink. Hope you have a good time tomorrow conker. I can't speak for where you live but I think the weather is supposed to be better tomorrow. It has rained all day here.

Wow pink - 10oz every 2hours!! Glad the hungry baby milk is doing the trick. I thought ds was going to be like that but he has cut back a bit. I had some lovely smiles from him this morning. I can't wait til he's doing it all the time.

banana - my ds is having 4-6oz when he feeds so I'd say James is getting what he needs from his bottles. He's nearly 7 weeks now and was 11lb 11oz when last weighed. Sounds like you've had a bad day. I've had a few moments like that. The first one was when ds was only a week or so old. We went out in the car and he was screaming. We thought he was just tired but it turned out that his hat was over his eyes. Yesterday I smacked dd in the face with the handle of the carpet sweeper.

Love the new name shrinkingsagpuss. Mine's just soooo boring

DIFFICULT TO KEEP UP WITH EVERYONE opps caps on! did we have more boys than girls? we need to update stats with new names and dates!

off to find origin al stats thread.....

I've been and done a post natal what we had thread - don't make me look like a billy no mates.......please go on it

Ive done it loler!

half the people on the expecting list have never been seen since!

Me done too..... I'm sure there is something else I should be doing.. the baby is on the floor next to the computer..... which is at the top of the stairs. Good job newborns can't roll hey?!

we are all managing to get on here a bit more now, must be getting into some sort of routine!

Is anyone watching that bringing up baby tonight, its the 2nd one! just want to see if im going to shout at the telly like i did last week!

Me too.

Dd could roll at 8 weeks. Ds is 7 weeks tomorrow. He can't roll but he can wriggle across a flat surface. We had to put something under the mattress to lift the side up as he kept hiting his head on the bars.

No routine yet but I do have a mum who can't wait to get her hands on ds so I go online at her house. Either that or I let him moan a bit.

Taping the programme tonight. I missed the first one.

Yep, I'm watching Bringing Up Baby tonight, along with 99% of mumsnet by the looks of things! I know it'll make me though!

I've added my stats to your list, loler.

woohoo, it's me itchy! or no longer itching..

this is my new RL persona, here I'm automatically now known as mamamila and dp as babamila

going to try to read some 'baby bliss' by dr harvey karp while the wee bairn's asleep. I just wish these books would put their ancient secrets of baby calming into the first few sentences on the first page.. there's not time to read a book when lo is crying.

although she's getting better everyday. cried a few times today but she's been snuffly, too hot and passed around too many cousins today.

happy birthday conker (hope you're having an indoor picnic otherwise you'll get rather soggy!!) and belated happy birthday pink (my birthday is next week so there's a few of us in october)

banana - these things happen and there will be others (i was cutting DD2 nails when she was a week old and managed to draw blood) she's had mitts on ever since (will probably need to cut them before we see the GP and HV tomorrow though...)

re meet ups - i think we should all visit mamamila

DD1 has got into a pattern of getting up between 5am and 5.30 just as i'm putting DD2 back down (so i'm losing an extra hour or so of sleep -as soon as DD1 wakes she wante me and not her dad arrgh).

i taped the bringing up baby programme last night - off to watch it just now.

hi everyone, finally managed to get baCK ON HERE! Added us to the postnatal stats.

Logan is now 4 1/2 weeks old and doing really well, he's only wee still (7lb 9oz, 8oz over birth weight) but feeding well and aroun devery three hours, which makes it easier for me to prepare! I'm breastfeeding exclusively so far but had loads of problems, resulting in mastitis and a lovely big lump of inflamed tissue in my right boob. Spent hours at hospital waiting for a scan, thought they might have to operate, but in the end they just gave me stronger antibiotics. The lump's still there but the pain is less, and I've started feeding on that side again. Formula still seems too much hassle! if it's not sorted in a couple of weeks though I'm going to switch over I think.

The up side is that I was expressing for a week on that side, so I've got that mastered, and dp is giving the 11pm feed, which means I can get some rest.

Hope everyone's having a good day.

Nice to see some long lost faces (voices?) back again.

I worry that those we don't hear from may be the ones having a really hard time. I hope the likes of MrsShuvel are ok. Babymad i suspect is just rather busy with her 3!!

Well done Katybird on sussing the expressing thing. I have never done it, and DH has always pulled faces at the idea of handling breast milk in any capacity. I can't even get him to give Evie her one 4 oz bottle of FF!!

I was horrified last night watching the little bit of "bringing up baby" to see that awful woman bullying the mum into bottle feeding. She clearly wanted to breast feed, and that woman was telling her it was easier to FF. Even for the sake of science I don't think they should show it as an "easier" option if you want your baby in a ince easy routine. My baby is in a routine (of sorts) and breast feeding is JUST FINE!

Hi All, I've added myself to the postnatal stats.

Birthday Greetings to Conker and Pink.

Katybird - hope the boob recovers soon.
I've started expressing to give Alex a bottle every couple of days I disappeared to the spare room on Sunday night and left DH with an expressed bottle to do the night time feed hoping to get a full nights sleep but I was wide awake as soon as I heard him and tried to wait for DH to settle him down again but couldn't do it and got up to him.I'd be no good with Claire Verity can't even leave him crying with his dad!!!!

I thought last night's episode was crazy - trying to say which method is best based on 1 or 2 babies - all babies and all parents are different.

welcome back katybird! And welcome to baby Logan Sorry to hear aboutyour angry boob, hope it's better soon.

Stretchmarks I know what you mean about not being able to leave them even with your partner. My partner is mostly good but has a habit of leaving James in his moses basket/chair/carseat when he's screaming, and just going "Jaa-aames, don't cryyyyy" so of course James just screams and screams until I appear and pick him up.

Even when I go to bed early and leave James asleep downstairs with dp, as soon as he squeaks I'm awake and hovering near the top of the stairs wondering if I should go get him. There isn't much respite is there! Well, unless you chuck your newborn outside in a pram for four hours and shut the door.

I watched last nights episode, and couldn't believe it when CV had bundled the twins parents off out, leaving them to believe their babies were safe with their "guru" and she just stood outside their room as they cried saying "they don't rule MY life. They're only doing it for attention anyway"

Honestly, I hope some enraged mother punches her in the face for being such a cold evil witch. Her arguments against the other two gurus are weak and her defence is attack, saying the people who implement the other other methods are mad or stupid.

What I think is mad and stupid is carrying a baby in your womb for nine months then ignoring them apart from four hourly bottlefeeds held at arms length for fear of them making eye contact with their mothers!!!

I'm so sad for those poor little babies deprived of contact, warmth, love and communication. And it's her nasty attitude that upsets me the most! Saying babies are manipulative, attention seeking, she obviously doesn't LIKE them or care how they turn out psychologically, why on earth is she allowed to work with vulnerable children? Under any other circumstances, such neglect would be a case for the social services. So angry about this.

Rant over anyway, having a difficult day with James, haven't had a chance to eat anything or get dressed because he's crying everytime I get off the sofa with him, even in a sling. He's not usually this fussy, hope he's not coming down with something.

The loooong posts are back! (Blame Uki for reminding me to post here)

Got ds's photos done at Boots today. He was very tired but luckily stayed happy long enough to get them done. The photographer was very good with him and dd (who did her best to try to get her new white tights dirty on the shop floor). It's so expensive. They charge £4.99 for one picture and all others are between £20 and £40 or £145 for the whole set. We're going to have to get our parents to chip in so we can actually afford to get more than one.

my2weegirls - I've been having the same problem with my dd. She seems to get disturbed when I go to the loo after putting the baby down. Luckily she will easily go back to sleep in my bed. Dh gets up and goes to sleep on the sofa. How old is your dd1?

katybird - I was thinking about you the other day, wondering how you were getting on. Sorry to hear about the mastitis. Glad to hear you're on the mend though.

I totally agree about Bringing Up Baby. I was horrified at that evil woman. I can't believe she implied that ff was so much easier for a routine. The woman with twins clearly wanted to give bf a try. She made those parents feel like their babies were just an inconvenience and that bloke even said that it was bs that his baby was up at 3:45am. How can you expect a 2 week old baby to only feed 4 hourly and then go through the night. It just horrifies me that they let her do this to them in order to make their lives easier. I would rather have a very messy house and never go out and have a happy baby. And how could she say that the mothers bonded with their babies during feeding when they weren't even allowed eye contact and didn't even hold them close to their bodies. How can you only cuddle your baby for 10 minutes a day and feel good about that. Did you hear that woman saying she felt guilty for doing it? FFS - your baby needs you to feed on demand and cuddle them when they cry in the early days. Babies will turn out clingy or independent regardless of how you bring them up. The programme just made me so sad and angry. How can you subject these poor babies to these experiments. They're not guinea pigs. I totally agree with banana that, if this wasn't part of a tv programme, someone would have called social services round if parents left their kids out in the cold unsupervised and let them scream with hunger for 12 hours a night. I bet those parents will live to regret the lack of closeness with their babies. They won't get to do it again. And who knows what effect it will have on them later in life.

And breathe.....

BTW - did anyone see the news of the world this weekend? Nasty CV was Mick Jagger's kids nanny and sha**ed him in the kitchen when Jerry was next door (or somthing like that!)

Gill - DD1 is 2.8yrs - she woke at 4.50am this morning (i tried getting into bed with her this morning and cuddling but she kept asking 'is it morningtime yet?'). she's never been the best sleeper - didn't sleep through till she moved to her big bed at 2.2 yrs and even now we have to read her to sleep (which is fine when she goes quickly....). she's off to playgroup and then the childminders (who fortunately doesn't do the truby king method...) so she will be shattered tonight and will hopefully sleep a bit longer tomorrow.

How can those parents do that to their children - what happens if the baby is sick/does a poop after being put down and left to cry??? do they lie and scream in wet clothes/bedding for 3.5 hours??

all the things they are missing out on. baby waking up, seeing you and giving a great big smile. cuddles - there's nothing like having baby all snuggled in being able to smell their hair, rub their backs (then them being sick all over your neck, boobs, shoulder )

I'm all for baby/children/me getting fresh air - with walks and sitting in the garden but as soon as there's a wee peep out of them their needs are met.

oh well - off to get ready to take wee one for her injections