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madgirl · 04/08/2004 12:04

Hello everyone. My DS2 was born on July 4th and I have been waiting for a "Babies born in July" thread since then, but none has appeared! (at least I don't think it has). So I thought I should start one, I didn't have Mumsnet for DS1 and I wish I had. I thought it should be July/August since almost all of the July babies were/are late! How is it going for you all?

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sibble · 25/09/2004 04:33

thanks quacks, have ordered it from library whose 5 copies are all out!!
well max slept in his own cot last night for the first time - hurray. only woke for 1am feed then 5.30, felt relatively human this morning, don't kow if this is the turning point or side effect of 6 weeks vaccinations yesterday,, hopefully things are on the up

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sweetkitty · 25/09/2004 10:59

we had good day/night too

afternoon nap 2-4.30pm
bath etc put her down at 7pm
fell asleep on DP at 7.30pm
put her to sleep in our bed and that was her until 3am, fed straight back to sleep 6am fed, 10am everyone up feel human today too
tried 11pm dreamfeed and nappy change but she wasn't having any of it

hellomama - ouch! don't know what to advise but loads of babes still BF with teeth

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HelloMama · 26/09/2004 15:27

BF has got a bit easier. I used to use breast shields when we first started feeding but he doesn't seem to like them now... must say things have got a bit easier over the last few days. I'm really concentrating during the feed, so no more reading the paper or surfing the net! Also got some great homeopathic teething powders from boots which seem to work well but are a nightmare to administer - imagine a baby covered in white powder all over the face and you get the picture!!! Looks a bit dodgy IYSWIM, but makes me laugh :0

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sponge · 27/09/2004 09:19

I too have been reading the baby whisperer and I have to say I quite like her. There seems to be more flexibility and more practical advice. For instance I like the tips on how to tell whether your baby is tired, hungry or windy/ in pain. I had been assuming that when ds sucked on my arm or finger he was hungry, so I fed him, so we got into a bit of a snacking, not long enough between feeds pattern. In fact he just wants to suck so I now give him a dummy and he sucks contentedly.
Also, astonishingly, for the last two nights I have put him down awake in his cot and he's put himself to sleep (not until about 9/9.30 mind you but still), resulting in only one 3.30 wake up on Saturday night and a 2.30 and 5.30 last night, but both easy and back in his cot afterwards.
I haven't tried the dream feed yet as I'm scared of waking him but I do feel a small amount of progress has been made .
And I got paid on Friday. I do like being paid when I've just been sitting around at home .

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SpringChicken · 27/09/2004 09:53

Hi Everyone, Need a bit of advise please.

Evie is 10 weeks and 3 days - she is on 9oz bottles and is having 4 throughout the course of the day - however, she is still hungry - what do i do?

Have tried her on a tiny bot of baby rice (i know it's earlier than recommended but didn't know what else to try) but she doesn't appear to like it. Any idea's?

Also, think i might be in the same boat as you HelloMama - i think Evie is teething, she is dribbling alot and has been very grumpy the last few days. Didn't have the sense to actually check inside her mouth though - DER!!

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SpringChicken · 27/09/2004 10:28

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HelloMama · 27/09/2004 14:19

springchicken a lady at my nct class was feeding and feeding her little one with breast milk and yet she was always still hungry.the mw suggested she 'topped up' with some formula and now she does this after a breast feed and baby is much happier. if you're already giving formula, then perhaps a 2nd bottle is required? maybe evie is doing a bit of a grow? i know ruben seems to be feeding more, but partly i think its soothing for him whilst hes grumpy because of his teeth. ps i didnt think to check his mouth either, until the hv suggested i have a feel!

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littlerach · 27/09/2004 16:46

SC, is it worth giving her a whole extra feed, so she has 5 feeds a day? And water may take the edge off her hunger, or a dummy to comfort.

My Evie is the opposite, she barely takes 4 oz, 5 times a day. And it can take an hr to get this much down her!! We rae seeing a cranial osteopath this week, as it has got really stressful trying to feed her, almost as though she can't latch onto bottle, then screams afetr 2 oz. It isn't colic, probably wind.

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sweetkitty · 27/09/2004 19:53

hi all

Don't know how much Abbie takes as she's totally BF only gets 2-3 bottles of EBM a week, she gets about 6oxs of EBM but still needs top up boob. MUst be doing something right the way she's piling the weight on - all double chins and chubby cheeks now. She gets about 7 feeds a day, I'm lucky she's a speed feeder, nighttime feed she feeds and goes straight back to sleep in about 15 minutes.

I think 10 weeks is too soon for baby rice Springchicken, personally I would just give her more milk.

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SpringChicken · 28/09/2004 08:43

How Odd Littlerach - My Evie had to have cranial oesteopathy too!!
Where she had a ventouse delivery the oesteopath said she was getting baby headaches and her head was the wrong shape! She also had colic and he has shown me a brilliant massage which relieves the pain almost instantly
Wasn't too nice at the time but she is much happier for being all fixed now.

Have tried giving her water but she just gags and wont drink it - she already has a dummy - think i will try giving her an extra couple of ounces in another bottle if she carried on!

Greedy little thing Bless

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sponge · 28/09/2004 21:50

Give her a bit more milk or another feed. If she's really still hungry then she must need it. Don't give her baby rice yet, it's much too early for her to be able to digest anything except milk.

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Quackers · 29/09/2004 20:34

Hi all, sorry for lack of posting in the last few days. Georgina is such a bad day sleeper. I can get ger down at sometime between 7.30 and 9.30 and she wakes once for a feed. But in the day she has pretty much no day sleep. Just read some postings here and some of you have a similar problem. They will go off in the car seat or pram but wake after being put in the cot. I've been beside myself today. She just cried and cried. When she was put down she'd just wake and want to be cuddled back to sleep.
So, can I ask:

  1. If you use a dummy, do you let them have it the cot and suck as they like?
  2. Are you all cuddling to sleep and trying to put them down and hoping for the best?
  3. Anyone else having the lack of day sleep thing as it;s starting to affect night sleep?

    Springchicken! hi mate! Have you put Evie on hungrier babies?? Simple thing I know but I'm shifting to this and going to use next size teat to see if this helps our problems as she has so much wind.
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sweetkitty · 29/09/2004 20:42

hi quackers sorry to hear that your having a hard time, I've had a good couple of days today especially. Generally I can get Abbie to sleep at about 2.30-3pm by feeding her (bad I know don't tell Gina) and I wake her at 6 so she will sleep later on. If she doesn't get a day nap she is terrible at night seems to be overtired.

I felt terrible on Monday night, she was up until 2am and hadn't had a proper sleep all day, just naps here and there because I had a visitor over. She did sleep until 9am next morning straight through so I wasn't too much of a zombie.

She point blank refuses a dummy spits it out with a look of disgust on her face, she'll happily take a bottle of EBM though, she has found her thumbs and fingers. I either feed her to sleep and leave her where she is or she falls asleep on one of us.

We are all off to Scotland on Friday 8 hour drive

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littlerach · 30/09/2004 10:08

Hi Quacks, nice to see you are still around!!

Evie sleeps fine at night, usually quite a lot in morning, but hardly at all in afternoon. We have no real routine, as her patterns do change from week to week.
She has a dummy, she falls asleep with it and I take it out when she is really asleep. Otherwise you end up trying to find it!! Often she will fall asleep after a feed, so I pop her down then. If not, I try and put her down awakw when I know she is tired.

Took her to cranial ostteopath yesterday, they think she is not feeding due to stress at the base of her skull. The osteopath was great, seemed to know that I carried her really low and that she was engaged early, just by looking at her and feeling her head.

Now she has caught a cold from DD1, so is feeding even worse!!!

Quacks, have you looked at Baby Whisperer? It is a good read...

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sponge · 30/09/2004 10:18

I Quacks.
Harry only really sleeps well in the day if out and about in his buggy. Even if I hold him he's restless and wakes up pretty quickly if I put him down. So daytime sleep depens on me going out and I don't get much done in the day (apart from shopping ).
But I can now put him down in is cot awake at night and he'll go to sleep. I do use a dummy which he spits out or lets fall once he's fast asleep. So far doesn't wakt up looking for it.
I second pro the Baby Whisperers, her advice is what got him to go down at night.

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Quackers · 30/09/2004 18:22

THanks guys, just want to know I'm normal. The No Cry sleep methd is very similar to baby whisperer. I will however order her book anyway as it comes so highly recommeded! Night sleeps are fine, that's why I can't really complain I know but it's good to know I'm not the only one getting tonms of shopping done and no cleaning!!!!!!!!

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dinosaur · 04/10/2004 16:13

Hiy'all.

Has anyone's baby had the new five-in-one jab yet? I know Toothache's dd has. Am wondering whether to take DS3 this week for his...

On a different topic - Sponge, I left DS3's hat in Coram's Fields - you asked about it on the meet-up thread - do you by any chance still have it??? If so I will CAT you and maybe you could post it to me - it would be good to get it back as it is the only one I have that fits him - all the others are either already too small, or still too big!

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hermykne · 04/10/2004 22:03

only discovered this thread to follow up the "due in" about 2 weeks ago but have not had the time to read it all - and still havent.
just wanted to join in, ds now 9wks and dd 2 today. so its hectic.
i want to find all the mums of 2 (or more) on this thread for the tips and sorrows as i have gotten so weary from it and tears have flowed but dh on hols so its a little less tiring.

ds born july 30th by c/s and b/f - wont take that ebm bottle or formula for a night feed, trying to get him to take the bottle but he wont and its driving me nuts! quite happy b/f but want to get out with dd and just have that option of going out with dh - if i ever feel like socialising again!

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HelloMama · 04/10/2004 22:14

Hi hermykne. welcome to our thread! Sorry to hear you're having a hard time. I only have the 1 baby (ds, born on 31 July) so am relatively inexperienced - although learning fast... but i know some of the others on here have 2 or more babies / toddlers and will be able to give you some good advice. In the meantime, keep posting, and don't worry, you're not the only one who is going crazy (!), we're all having various dramas, dilemmas and problems, so you're in good company!

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dinosaur · 05/10/2004 11:20

Hi hermykne! I am in the very fortunate position of having DH around most of the time, as he is a SAHD, so I am having a relatively easy time of it looking after my three. However I must say that I find it quite hard when he's not around if I have all three of the boys at home. I can manage just about everything except stopping the older two squabbling with each other - quite difficult when trying to breastfeed at the same time!

However there was a good thread recently about bedtime routines for a baby and a toddler - have you seen it? I think it's also under Parenting.

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littlerach · 05/10/2004 18:50

DD2 has terrible cold still, she is so tiny to have a runny nose, and sounds like an old man coughing!!!
Have postponed her jabs til next week.
We have seen the osteopath again and he has worked wonders as she is now drinking much more and is more relaxed, cannot speak highly enough of him.
Am starting to feel that things are going ok...probably speaking too soon though!!!

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madgirl · 05/10/2004 20:58

dino, have looked for the bedtime baby/toddler thread but can't find!
it's ok when both of us are here for bedtime, as i do ds2 and he has his last bottle while ds1 goes up for his, then by the time ds1 comes down for story time ds2 is in bed but all goes up the creek when there is only one of us!
ds2 amazingly placid, tho has started not to sleep much during day. ds1 a bit frustrated at loss of 100% attention but not showing the axe murderer tendancies that we had feared i am knackered tho and have started to do the washing and the washing up in my sleep. Drudge, what drudge?! littlerach, how much formula is your dd taking? ds2 only drinking about 25oz a day and his poo is still rather lovely shade of sage green............

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sibble · 06/10/2004 01:00

hi all, here's another member of how to juggle 2 at the bath/bedtime hour. dh comes through the door when ds1 is nicely tucked up in bed, ds2 is feeding and dinner cooking away, no idea of the complete chaos of the previous hour or two or why i am completely stressed.last 2 nights have been great and max has slept from 8-3.15 then woken for further feed at 6ish, flip side is he is awake all day and screams if i put him down. hard to know what is more tiring. step-son age 12 also staying and dh not taken any time off work so stress levels through the roof, but max has such beautiful smiles it's all worth it.

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sponge · 06/10/2004 10:07

Dino, yes I have your hat. Are you going to the city lunch next week - if so I could bring it along. Otherwise CAT me and I'll post it.
Luckily dh is always home for bedtime so one of us looks after ds while the other one puts dd to bed. She's 4 though so able to do quite a bit herself - must be much harder with a younger toddler about.
On the couple of occasions when dh has been out I've just taken Harry with me while I read dd's bedtime story which has worked out OK.
I'm feeling quite smug today as Harry slept from about 10 until 6.30 last night. Yippee . Let's hope it wasn't a one off.
Madgirl Harry doesn't have any more than 25ozs I wouldn't have thought. I breastfeed him 3 feeds but the formula ones he only takes 4oz, 5 if we're really lucky and when he breastfeeds he's only on for 15 minutes or so. But he's healthy, gaining weight and starting to sleep for longer periods at night so I reckon it's OK. Don't have your colour pooh though!
He's also starting to sleep less in the day and is more alert when awake (and cuter, more smiling and cooing ). He's still useless at being put down for more than 5 minutes so I still get little doen but I'd rather that it the payoff is nighttime sleep.

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littlerach · 06/10/2004 10:43

MG, DD2 was only taking 15 oz until last week when we saw the osteopath, which is why we went. Now she takes about 23-25, and has gained weight much more easily and is consistent on the stupid graph!! Her poo is quite yellowy and runny!

Have just been for her 8wk check and were supposed to have imms done, but \I asked them to delay them as her cough is awful. The dr was so rude, as Evie was screaming and coughing he asked if she was ever content! And if I could ever stop her from crying. He also implied that because she hadn't coughed until she was purple and sick in his presence then he didn't think it was that bad. He then told me to make another appt with the receptionist so I went all the way back with Evie still screaming and they told me I had to make it baack where the dr was, so I left, in tears. I feel really crap, and I know I took it all too personally, but I thought the dr would at least be human!

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