May 2017 #17 the fun continues

[teainbed]

Hope everyone will continue to chat about their beautiful May 2017 babies!

[1004Rise]

@RasperryInAMelon that GP is an idiot 1) you've just had a baby 2) they must be able to see your previous history and should take that into account when/if they raise a concern 3) you've just had a baby 4) 26 must only just be in the overweight cats 5) in case they missed it you've just had a baby!!! 😤 I'm glad you have good support from your DH!

We're definitely having a spurt or a leap or something she fed for 30 minutes this morning which is unheard of and 11 times since midnight, normally it's just 11 in a day...... between feeding and her sleeping on me I'm going to get nothing done today 😣

@Rockyroad17 with baby Rise we've found (just over the past few days though) that playing on a mat helped her to do more than cat nap during the day but we've definitely got longer awake times in the day now. Your night sleeping is amazing though!

[Barnes79]

Rocky We've not tried different feeding positions as he's only ever liked one way. But we haven't tried in a while so you never know, he may have changed his mind

Tea we've already had an "urgent" paeds referral - our appt is start of Oct (my gp wasn't impressed so hopefully she'll chase it up for us - she's made Baby Barnes her project I think.)

Off for our weekly weigh in later. I'm not expecting a huge increase compared to normal.

[Acorncat]

tea we started on probiotics a few days ago on advice from the osteopath. Though they must be an American brand as the only place I can get them is amazon and they didn't arrive in a cool pack like they're supposed to. So probably ineffective. I might try a brand I can just buy here. A lot of people on the reflux/allergies Facebook groups recommend them too.

[MrsJW15]

@RasperryInAMelon another vote for you've just had a baby. Don't be too hard on yourself and ignore that GP. Glad you've got a supportive DH.

@1004Rise playing on the mat made no difference for us yesterday. She has just fallen asleep in the car though which is good as we are meting DH's grandparents for lunch over an hour away. Fingers crossed she naps both ways.

@1004Rise that sounds like a tough night. I'd just write it off as a day now and get Netflix on!

[teainbed]

This is my life now! But apparently it's "normal"
http://www.mumsnet.com/Talk/amiibeingunreasonable/2990440-this-is-my-life-now-but-apparently-it-s-normal

Have a read of this if you get a chance, @Nurse15 I think was in our antenatal group recently but lots on unsettled babies, tummy issues etc and some good advice and sympathetic stories!

[CoxsOrangePippin]

@raspberry my bmi is the same, but my GP didn't even tell me what it was let alone criticise! So inappropriate and unhelpful. Sorry you experienced that.

@tea @acorn we are using biogaia, I was very sceptical but there are randomised controlled trials showing L Reuterii may indeed be helpful to babies

[teainbed]

Hope it went ok @Barnes79

[Barnes79]

He's gained 5oz in a week which, for him, isn't too bad. Weigh in again in a week 😕

Raspberry. I'm shocked they dared to say that about BMI, especially as it's an awful measure and 26 isn't even that far in the "overweight" category. I was just over 25 BMI before baby and am heavier now but any health professional who criticised me right now would get a gob full. God only knows how they account for increased boob weight due to bf when using this sh*t measure - mine must weight a good few lbs each! Anyway, don't they realise we're all living by the "everyone fed, no one dead" mantra... 🤔

[ClaireSunflower]

@teainbed I read that thread by nurse15 and it comforted me somewhat. Not that I'm happy others are having a hard time but that it's normal to find it all a bit shit sometimes. I'm getting so fed up of people saying 'enjoy him while he's small' and 'enjoy every second of it'. Of course there are moment when everything is lovely but there are also moments when I'm finding it bloody awful and it makes you feel even worse if you think everyone else is enjoying every second of it!

[ClaireSunflower]

@RasperryInAMelon my Bmi is much higher than yours. It's terrible they made you feel like that especially given your history. I have a history of anorexia too as a teenager so you'd think that would flag up on the records as it's such a horrible trigger to be told you're too heavy even after all these years of recovery. Also I have bloody postnatal depression on my medical record now so you'd think they'd be a bit nicer about something so unimportant about weight loss at this time!

[newbieho]

Thanks for the link @teainbed it made me feel less shit.

[Adventuregame]

Just checking in to new thread ! X

[savagehk]

London meetup final date 11th August.
Is everyone on the FB group?

@MissMooMoo ?
@vickyT ?

(think everyone else is!)

[BouncingBlueberry]

Sounds like a lot of us need some right now. Remember nobody can make you feel inferior without your consent and if they try just tell em to fuck off!.

[CoxsOrangePippin]

@savagehk I'm not on the main fb group but am on the healthy one

[1004Rise]

@Rockyroad17 @MrsJW15 thought of something else, I've gone back to decaf coffee (not tea) I found myself in a lot of cafes and though I was enjoying coffee that didn't smell like tuna anymore I did start to wonder how much caffeine there was in it. I have no idea if this has made a difference or not 😳

[MrsJW15]

Oh interesting Rise. I am drinking caffeine - one coffee (at home so I know it's a single shot) and one tea a day. It's about what I was drinking when pregnant. When I started drinking coffee I didn't think it made a difference but maybe I should try a few days with just tea again and see.

[MrsJW15]

On the other hand, baby W doesn't seem to have an issue settling at night and sleeps well - it's just day time naps that are harder at the moment. It may be the Leap.

[CoxsOrangePippin]

@mrsjw and others, we spoke to a sleep consultant about Pippin and she said I shouldn't worry too much about the length of naps or total sleep being lower than it was 'supposed' to be if he was cheerful, he wouldn't be cheerful if he was sleep deprived. She is helping us set up good sleep habits, I'm hoping this will help us avoid training that involves crying to break accidental bad habits!

[Rabbitykins55]

Baby rabbit will be 12 weeks on Sunday, he hardly naps during the day unless we are in the car or pram and he's still feeding (bf) every two hours including over night. Everyone I've spoken to says 12 weeks is the turning point for sleeping at night. I know that I'm not going to get to Sunday and see a massive improvement but surely if he's feeding every two hours he's not going to suddenly jump and do four for arguments sake. Are they just lying to make me feel better?!

[1004Rise]

I'm having a hard time with DH at the moment, the first thing he said this morning was to complain about how little sleep he's had... surely you'd know better than to complain to a bf mum about lack of sleep I know he's finding it hard because we're still staying at my parents while we wait for the house to complete and having started a new job in a completely different field it's hard work but I just feel that I'm supporting him and he's not supporting me.... I know if I say this he'll say but I do this washing and tidy up etc and totally miss the point. I'm juggling all the mortgage application stuff the dealing with the solicitor all he's doing is going to work. When I told him this morning that the solicitor had called wanting an update on the mortgage all I got was a barrage of that's a stupid question we've told them how long it'll take blah blah blah not helpful. I think he's having a hard time no getting all my attention and missing the us time that we used to have to talk for ages when we finished work... he can't cope with conversation and came changing baby rise. I know it'll be better once we have our own house again but at the moment I just want to give him a really good shake

Rant over for now at least

[teainbed]

That is rough @Rabbitykins55 well done for getting this far! I think 12 weeks things can change, certainly the type of sleep becomes more grown up and less 'newborn' which can have good or bad consequences! But a bigger tummy with room for more food does help.

[teainbed]

@1004Rise rant away. I'd give him more than a shake.

[EsmesBees]

rabbity with my first it did seem to change overnight at about 12 weeks. She suddenly went from 40 min feeds to 10. It was amazing. Every 2 hours at night is really tough. We are doing an expressed bottle at midnight which has made all the difference to my sleep and I now feel human again. Would that be an option for you?

Rise that's very unreasonable of him. Sounds like you've both got a load of stuff going on simultaneously. He might need a reminder that it's not all wine and roses for you at the moment either. Can your parents look after the baby while you take some time out together?

Got to take both girls on the tube for the first time tomorrow, plus luggage for the weekend. It's going to be awful, plus it's the longest DD will have gone without access to a potty. Not sure what we were thinking...

[Rabbitykins55]

Thanks @teainbed !

So there is hope @EsmesBees ?! We already do an expressed bottle at about 9pm but that's when I do my "normal" stuff, dishwasher, lunch for the next day etc and express for the next day. My husband doesn't get home until 7pm and is doing as much as he can.
I'm trying not to get my hopes up that Sunday will be a huge turning point but I'll keep a glimmer of hope going!