Jan '07 part 3: Final score - 69 days, 28 boys, 21 girls weighing over 26 stone in total (thats over THREE TIMES Kate Moss's body weight!)

[2Happy]

And huge respect to EaH, without whose efforts we never would have had a list

(And yes, I am one of those sad people who finds things like temperature sensors in cars really interesting. Nerd.)

[Dragonhart]

Poor you Lizz. Hope it goes away and stays away this time. xxx

I would definatly recomend the Baby Whisperer book. Been doing the shh pat thing for the last week and R is going down way easier. Although as you say trixy, sore throat and very dry lips!!

Right, does anyone know if it is ok if lo has not done a poo for two days? She is bf, and I am sure I have heard that they do not go as often but DS1 used to do copious amounts every feed so it is all a little strange to me. She usually goes once a day but hasnt done it for two days.

Talking of poo, DS1 did a poo in the toilet yesterday!!! . Mind you when we were tidying today as we had friends coming for the day he did do three little wees in our bedroom, in the hall and on the sofa in his room! He did say 'oh dear!' after each one though.

[theUrbanDryad]

DH - so long as her tummy doesn't feel hard she's probably ok, but if you're worried phone the HV or your local out of hours doctor!

Lizzz - feel really sorry for you. hope it clears up soon! xxx

[wilkie50]

DH - this thread might help

Lizz - about your mastitis. Hope it clears up soon

We had a good night. Put down at 7.45pm, dream feed at 10.30pm, feed at 3am, up at 6.30am. Great!

Think LO is constipated again though with the Gaviscon for his reflux, so frustrating!!! Gaviscon works brilliantly at stopping him puking but he gets constipated instead. Argh!

Oooo, while I've been typing he's nodded off in his chair - I'm off for 40 winks (I am not an early morning kind of girl!!!!!)

[Lizzzombie]

UD - I NEED YOUR HELP!
Ok, so its good that LO is starting to sleep longer, but...fk me. I still wake up with boobs about to explode. He slept through from 8.30pm - 3.30am fab, except both tits were like helium ballons & I had express one after feeding from the other - not what you want to be doing at 4am, but had to , to avoid drowning! (sorry if this is all tmi so early in the morning!).
But, UD how do you manage?

[trixymalixy]

woo hoo. Had a great night last nigth. Fed DS at 10 then DH gave bottle of EBM at 1 and then DS didn't wake till 7.30!!!

Hope this is a sign of things to come. ALthought my boobs were rock hard so have had to express the other one just now. Bit worried about getting mastitis..

[trixymalixy]

Lizz,just read your post!

I think if DS sleeps through like that again I'm going to express before I go to bed to try and avoid getting quite so full.

[2Happy]

Morning.
Second night in a row ds2 has only fed once overnight - he was 11, 3 and 7 last night . It'll not last - he'll get his 6 week growth spurt at the end of the week and that'll be that! Still, it is reassuring since dsis told me that 2nd children tend to be the worst sleepers...
ud - glad the bank was ok. Hmm, open air feeding in early march?? I think the car's definitely better!
dh - how old is your ds1 again? One of the toddlers on my ds1's post-natal thread is potty trained already. I had vague thoughts of trying ds1 this summer. He knows when he's having a poo, but no advance warning, and definitely no awareness of pee (except announcing to the world when I'm on the toilet "mummy wee wee" )
Lizzz - oh no, that's not fair. Have you started a thread, see if any of the MN bf experts like tiktok can help? May be worth a go.
EaH - your dh may have tried to keep your mother's day presents secret, my dh came home proudly carrying a bunch of flowers, dead chuffed he'd remembered mother's day. err, it's next weekend, dear!

[2Happy]

sorry, x-posts. Ihd rock hard and very sore boobs yesterday after the prev night where he went down to 1 feed overnight. I just left each boob uncovered to spurt away while ds fed on the other side and although they're still a little tender today they already seem to be adapting. Sorry, that's not actually any blooming help is it?!

[theUrbanDryad]

Lizzz - i found that my boobs got a lot less sore after i started cluster feeding in the late afternoon! i firmly believe that it was a contributing factor in getting him up only once in the night too, although he was up and down like a yo yo last night! also, like 2Happy, i let the other boob spurt into a muslin while i'm feeding, although i'm not sure this is the best idea as the more goes out, the more goes in, IYSWIM. my instinct says to just bear with the soreness for a few days, and your boobs will adjust themselves to your baby's needs, but i'm no expert. put a shout out for tiktok on the breastfeeding topic and ask her!!

[wilkie50]

Sorry, had to post cos I am pissed off (irrational but needed to get off my chest). DH is a golf pro which means that from March-Sept he is very very busy with teaching (he's a teaching pro rather than playing), this means he only gets one day off per week (Mon). He was due to finish and be home by 2pm today and I was really looking forward to spending the afternoon together but he has just rung to say his last lesson slot has been booked so he won't be home until 4pm.

Sometimes I really wish he had a 'normal' job.

Feel really pissed off

[Dragonhart]

Thanks for the link wilkie. Sorry about your afternoon. DH sometimes has to work sundays and I hate it. Feels like it steals time for all of us and makes my life harder but we cant say no to the money. Hope he ets home on time.

Lizz, I had the same massive boob prob when r started to sleep through but only lasted two nights. Guess you have to be cafefull with getting mastitus again though. Again not much help-sorry!

2happy, DS1 is 19months. Wasnt planning on training him til summer either but as he had the most awful nappy tash (I am talking blisters!) I was letting him run around with no nappy on and he keeps telling me when he needs to go. Now I really dont know what to do as not sure I can do it while bf ruth but dont want to miss my 'window'. Guess I will just read up on it.

[Dragonhart]

nappy rash! He doesnt have some weird premature facial hair!

[wilkie50]

DH -

[carrotcake]

Lizz, I know exactly how you feel, I'm just recovering from it at the moment . The fluey part was horrible, now I just feel a bit grotty and it's a quite sore. I've found being on my front in a very hot bath and jiggling it around very helpful to get it flowing, and like UD, feeding loads leading up to bedtime seems to stop the leaking in the night quite so much. I'm also assuming the cause was something to do with the fact that it's the same side LO has trouble feeding off. The cranial ost says his jaw is a bit crooked so maybe latching on a bit strangely has contributed to it. I alternate feeding him on that side in a cradle position and a rugby ball one (helped by pillows)to get all of the ducts flowing, massaging it as he feeds. Hurts!

I really hope I don't get it again, I managed to avoid the anti biotics this time, partly because I have to take worm medicine as ds1 got it last week and gave it to the rest of us and I don't want to overload poor LO, No sign of worms in him though. Yuck. With dd's impetigo we are a house of infection.

Roll on spring and healthiness!!

[carrotcake]

ps, I can only tell you all about the worms as I'll probably never actually meet you

[Lizzzombie]

C-cake - worms?! you poor thing! My sister was always getting those when we were little. Very gross.
Willkie - could be worse - DP could have gone out last night, promising he wouldnt get drunk, then stagger home late, and v. pissed, puke up, and again this morning, and still be in bed on such a lovely day. Grr. My mum is coming later today, and I've cleaned the whole flat...he is 'dying' in bed. Not happy!
UD - what is cluster feeding?
Trixy - I think if you express b4 bed, they fill up even more, as your body thinks you need more. I think like UD said, you just have to wait for your body to adjust to the fact you dont need the feed in the middle of the night. & fingers crossed no one else gets the dreaded mastitis from engorged tits! x

[2Happy]

Message of support for you Wilkie and everyone else whose dh/p's have non-standard working hours. dh works 2 weekends a month, which involves going to work friday morning and being on call until monday evening, plus a weekdy a week. Want to make the most of this weekend since he's off, so of course the rugby is on and he's monosyllabic . But he's neither p*ssed nor hungover, I hope you stuck the hoover very near his pounding head Lizzz
DH - ds2 is 21m, and IKWYM about potty training while bfing! I think I'll wait a bit for now (then come back on this thread in a few months and whinge for advice from people who've already done it!)
Carrotcake - ewwwww! I'm sure my kids'll eat mud pies and end up with them sooner or later. Reminds me, though, the cats are overdue worming...
Just finished watching THAT programme (recorded it last night). is all I can say (without getting the post deleted!)

[Lizzzombie]

it was interesting wasn't it.
Did you see the one after it to - Having a baby ruined my life?
There was a very strange woman on that one!

[carrotcake]

I know, it's rank, makes me feel sick. It's possible only harry has them but doc says the rest of the family should always be treated at the same time as they spread so easily, towels etc.
Also, Lizz, my neighbour who says her friend had recurrent mastitis swears by ginger oil so I just bought some. Pricey though, 10 pounds, but it makes sense I suppose, ginger's warmimg and good for the circulation. I'll let you know if it's any good..

[2Happy]

I did see it yes, Lizz. I thought the end was desperately sad where every single person, having gone on about how tough it is, ended up saying how they wouldn't change it and it's all worth it, except for that woman with the 4yo boy. I felt so so sad for him, he seemed like a sweet boy on the footage and there were his parents on national tv saying they wished they'd never had him . I'm sure we've all of us had moments of "OMG what have I done?" since we started having kids, but to go to that extent

[ellieandhattie]

Wilkie hope dh got home on time,my dh often leaves home around 4.30-5am and not home till 6.30pmish which is when I am doing bedtime he has to work one saturday every 3 weeks on top of mon-fri and then one sunday every two months but it is so annoying never knowing when he'll be home and find myself resenting him at times because he gets in and dinners done, kids in bed etc and he can just sit down, anyway rant ovee and sympathise with you.

Mastitis sounds horrible so hope you feel better soon.

UD - emailed you re the dungarees
Jodie-emailed you re bottles

Hope everyone has a good night with their LO's hattie been asleep lots today so expecting a bit of a naff night, wish me luck.

[theUrbanDryad]

hey everyone! we had a nice day once we FINALLY got up! went and bought DH a neck support pillow like mine so he can cuddle Zac in bed a bit easier. i lost the plot a bit with him earlier when he asked me to come and hold Zac because he needed to shift position on the sofa! "What if i died?" i demanded "you'd have to learn to do things yourself then, wouldn't you?" i think he thought i was overreacting though.

anyway, we went to the museum in the park over the road from us, which was nice but it was very hot in there and Z was a bit whingey. he did fall asleep in his buggy on the way home but has been really miserable all evening. am hoping he's worn himself out!

EAH - emailed you back!

[theUrbanDryad]

oh, Lizzz, cluster feeding is when you feed every 20 minutes or so, usually in the early evening. my La Leche League mate said that when babies do that they're ensuring their milk supply for the night and the next day. when i started doing it i got a bit sore, Zac feeds 20 mins on each side now for about an hour and a half, but it was 3 hours at one point, so he's cutting it back. i think if you're feeding on demand you'll probably be close to doing that anyway, but the thing i found useful was never assuming they won't want more! even if he just wants to suck for comfort i let him now (against the advice of my HV!! hee hee) and he seems much more chilled at night!
HTH xox

[vinorouge]

UD - my bro claimed back charges from 3 banks totalling nearly 4K with letters and advice from a website penaltycharges.co.uk. Apparently it tells you what to expect at what stage from each bank. HTH. I fed outside on Fri in what felt like a gale despite the sunshine, sheltering lo with my coat and grappling with her snowsuit wasn't easy. Roll on the summertime!

Lizz - ever come across a halterneck nursing bra? A friend will be a bridesmaid when BF and is looking for one. No joy so far. Hope your boobs are feeling better soon

DH - my BF lo is not pooing as often, sometimes not during the day at all

Wilkie - I resent my DH for working hours too cos he often works late tho supposed to be home by 5 every day, plays footie on Sat so that rules out most of the day and we only have Sunday which annoys me cos I want to get house jobs done (he takes forever to do any DIY), go out for a nice day and just chill out. Impossible to do all 3 in a day!!!

I find myself snapping at DH a lot more these days, know its cos I'm tired but I'm also finding it really hard to balance our life. I'm anxious for him to still do pre-baby things like play footie and go out with mates so I don't object but then I resent him for doing it and get wound up about it all especially if he's hungover.

Got a nice day planned so hopefully there won't be much rain. A friend has taken the day off to spend with me and lo so we are off for the day out -walk, lunch and potter round shops in pretty village then caling into a BF group run by the NCT counsellor I've been getting help from. Hoping she can 'magic' me a way of feeding lo to let the last bit of crack heal up as its annoying me it just won't finish off IYKWIM.

[ellieandhattie]

oh I forgot to tell you about my first night out last week, we had a work night out as e won some money for a team event so we booked a mexcican restaurant and tickets for the queen show "we will rock you".

Anyway had to leave by 5pm so dh promised he'd be home in time (he got in at 4.50pm!! but my dad had popped in on his way home from work just in case) so as dh hasnt had the dd's together on his own I made his life very easy they had both had early baths and in pj's ellie was eating her dinner and had left pudding out. I pulled beds back and got Hatties bottles ready so all he had to do was put them to bed. Had put my phone onto silent but thought I'd check it around 7pm as both should have been in bed by then, had 16 missed calls listened to my voicemail to hear dh asking how te hell to do bed time with 2 of them as if he put hattie down to take ellie to bed hattie cried and vice versa the 2nd voicemail was dh asking where hairy mclary book was (ellie always has this book at bedtime the fact that I put it on her bed ready but he hadnt noticed and was pulling every book down from her bookshelf)and the 3rd voicemail was saying that it was 7.15 and ellie was asleep but hattie had been sick on her grobag should he take her out of it and put her in the 6-12month one (theres a spare 0-6 grobag ganging on the back of her door) Think it made him realise exactly how hard it can be so think I may be going out on a more frequent basis now!! The meal was lovely and show was fantastic.

Had our first really bad night with Hattie she slept most of yesterday as has a cold, but she was up at 12, 2, 3 and at 4.30 gave in and just stayed up with her but ellie had the best nights sleep in ages and slept 12.5 hours aaargh why can't they do it on the same night for me