Happy Birthday Neve and Alfie

[Jelley]

A thread for today....maybe csws can do us a proper one when she is better

DD2 wet the bed last night (and she's 6!)

Chloe - that post could have been from me. DP was always the same. Leaving him with them alone helps, but my dp does the child care (sort of...) but doesn't fit in the washing up/ housework/cooking that we do as well.

Is one year in too late for pnd?
I'm seriously thinking I have a problem. I'm struggling with life at the moment No good reason(which is making me feel even more pathetic).
I think I will talk to hv on Monday (going re ds nappy rash so I will probably chicken out ).

Oh Jas

Could be pnd, could be normal d, could just be feeling low Talking helps a lot (either here or on "depressed"), as does fresh air. I'm here if you want to send essay length emails - I can just read and not respond if you'd like.

Jelley, pnd can kick in up to 2 years after the birth so definitely get help now, especially if you are recognising you're struggling.

Flame 6-9 months, even in real nappies?? Are you in need of any clothes, fat arse over here is in 12-18months!!!

Hello, waves madly
Just passing through again need to go get my boys from school.
Hugs to those who need them.

How tall are you folks discussing weight out of interest? I'm am hovering around 10stone but if I dip below people tell me I'm getting too thin, I'm 5'10"

Must stop having a life and catch up next week.

Oh yes that would be too thin Dame - I'm 5'6'' (ish)

Waves madly back

Hi Dame you damn slim and fit lady

Aww for shoes Dame

Hi Macca!

Jelley, it could well be hon, speak with HV on mon eh {{{Hugs}}}

Must have been the night for wetting the bed then! new moon or summat???

Dd2 teething badly here, also got temp of 100....lots of drugs added, hoping she feels better soon.
dd1 has had her feet measured today, blinkin 8.5 H in clarkes, and can I get any shoes to fit her anywhere??? no, you can't even buy of the clarkes website.....which is the worst in the world to navigate, I'm going to have to order some in from the local shop, silly big footed dh its all his fault, I have slim feet dontcha know (the only bit of me that is slim )

I'm 5'6", stepped on the scales this am and I am 10st13lb! So pleased because I haven't been under 11stone since 2004 when I got married.

I think the thing that winds me up most is the fact that we can manage to clean/tidy aswell as look after our toddlers. If dh is watching ds and I ask him to unload the dishwasher or something then he says he can't because he is watching ds, I feel like saying, right, ok, whenever I am watching ds I won't do anything else then What a wonderful world it would be if we could spend every minute playing with our kids but we can't and that's reality.

I have to laugh because on tuesday when I have ds all day, at the end of the day I always look around the house and think blood hell, if I was to leave this house looking like this before ds gets home then what would he think I'd done all day. Maybe one day I should take a leaf out of his book and do exactly that.

Don't get me wrong, he does help out and I'm happy to do the lion's share of the housework but it would be lovely to get some recognition that it is a job and not something I find fun to do.

Jelly - I guess even if it isn't PND it might just be depression, you should definitely speak to someone before things spiral. I hope you get something sorted out.

Slim does not mean fit frizbe, I'm not fit and I have lots of spare wobbly skin on my belly[yuk face] and I'm still a size 12 so not scarey thin.
Must go have a good weekend all.

Agree slim and fit are not the same thing. (5'8" and 9 stone ish - about as fit as a bucket of lard - also have the attractive spare belly skin)

DD2 has just fallen off her scooter and broken her front tooth Luckily it is a baby tooth, but she was very upset and bloody. Dentist check up appt on Tuesday, so I'll get it properly looked at then, assuming it doesn't fall out in the mean time.

Not sure what is wrong with me atm. A combination of sleep deprivation, unsupportive dp, hormones and daily pain from sciatica aren't helping though.
I may use this thread to moan a bit if no one minds. I don't want to start a new thread atm. It makes it more real.
I will alos write rambling emails which I will probably delete, but just feel free to ignore if I do send, Flame. Thanks.

Awww your poor dd Jelly

If you ever feel the need to get it all down and need to send it to someone for some support then my email box is always open Jelley [email protected] - I know it can help sometimes. I remember at the beginning of our pgs Tictac and I would regularly write essays about how crap we felt and how crap our jobs were What I'm saying is I will always be an open ear. If you feel more comfortable though rant away on this thread, I'm sure nobody minds.

Ds1 fell over at playgroup today. Put his front teeth through his lip. He now looks like a cross between John Merrick and Hilda Ogden! I am so scummy, I am still wearing the blood soaked clothes from this morning

I took the boys to soft play this afternoon, which I hate doing (too busy after school times). It was an impromptu birthday party. I took another friends little boy and fed them whilst out. We got back at about 6.30 so it was a rush to get them sorted. ds1 just gone to bed, a whole 45 minutes after he normally does. He was so tired he fell up the stairs no less than 5 times!!!

I have turned down a girls night out tonight. Still feeling a little rougha nd my willpower of 'stopping at one' just is non existant.

I' am about 5'6 too.

Anyone watch the size zero thing the other night? how do pople survive on so little food???

for all the broken babies and teeth incidents

Exhausted. Tummy ache... think I am on track for a very regular cycle.

Oh, and we're playin nice on the nappy boards

3k - hope the rash has gone now.

It seems like we're all feeling like life is a bit mundane at the moment. I guess that's it until the kids are school age at least now?

Jelley - extra hugs to you. Just a thought, but could some of it be hormonal due to stopping breastfeeding? Was reading Franny's thread about her ds giving up the other day, and I think she said that her hormones played up the most when she went down to just one feed a day. Feel free to vent on here if it helps either way.

Flame - was wondering this morning (though forget now why) - are you registering for VAT?

Frizbe - virtual fruit shortcake (still astounded that these are dairy free!) coming your way.

mrm - I will never run out of names with these initials (CantSprintWontSprint anyone? ).

Sympathy to all those who need it, and vibes for lots of dry beds tonight.

Went back to docs today. Now got 3rd diff type of antibiotic to try. They say not to use if breastfeeding (not just a 'consult your doc' but an actual 'don't use') - phoned pharmacist and made her and doc double check they were ok, and they say they are, but still a bit nervous about taking them. Will start them in the morning though if still no better. Booked dd's mmr for next Thurs whilst I was there.

I don't think I have to - there was a box to tickon the self employment form to find out though

Argh for more anti-bs.

Things get less mundane around 18 months They start to become people.

Jelley, I 'm not sure why, but I'm so suprised/shocked that you feel like that. Just didnt see it coming (I know, its sounds a bit presumtious about how well I know you ) You're a bit far from me by bus for practical help . But you're very welcome to leave Boy with me anytime you want a bit of time to yourself (although he'd be in disposables when you got him back).

Am not feeling very positive re the runnning again; went a bit faster tonight, so only managed 25 mins, including a 2 min walk And dh bought some stuff for me to ebay today, so that time waster is eating into my running time again. I will run better tomorrow.

And while certain peole here are moaning about their bodies, i'd just like o mentiob that I'm about 3 stone heavier than most of you Er, obv. that means 6 stone heavier and 8 dress sizes bigger than Jelley

flame; regular is very very good Excpet for muppets like me, who is very regular but still didnt notice I was 2 weeks late, then panicked wildly

Read a bit of my second xmas book last night. did you know that right until early 18c it was commmon for the brides Mum, sisters and aunts to stay with her the whole of her wedding night, to ensure it all went ok?

No no, you don't have to at all (unless your turnover is around £60k or more, but that's a looooooot of nappies ), but there are some advantages to doing it even if you don't have to. It would allow you to claim back VAT on things you buy for the business, like a computer, which is obviously an essential for an e-business! Just make sure that you keep all VAT receipts for everything you buy, in case you want to register at some future point. You can reclaim VAT on services going back 6 months and on goods 3 years (I think) from the point that you do register. I didn't initially, but when I had to I was still able to claim back the VAT from buying my laptop and printer, plus all the bits on my mobile phone.

Oh, and csws, life here is far from mundane. I'm living with a lunatic 3 yr old, and a one yr old who likes to bite, throw things, fill the washing machine with crap, and climb up the bookcase

pmsl @ the sizes bigger than Jelley

What book are you reading?!?!?!!?

Maybe you'd actually prefer mundane then mrm!

at useful () wedding fact!

Yay another biter Was starting to think mine was just a monster!!

CSWS - will make note of all of that! Thank you

Agree 18 months is a great age. Such a joy and then it goes horribly wrong again around 2 years. Then around 3 you hit the 'why' stage, they don't shut up and you just wish they'd never learnt to speak.

The 2 boys in the back today were having me in hysterics. They were conversing about how big they were. Finns aid 'I'm much bigger because I eat my greens' Friend of ds1 said ' my daddy's car is grey like the clouds'. I see even at this age they never listen to what is being said to them

Whilst in the car, it was raining and friend asked 'why is it raining. I said because the clouds are too heavy to hold all the water and they need to drop them somewhere and that somewhere happens to be where we are travelling. 'but why are they to heavy' he said. Because the clouds were greedy and took too much water from the sea and they couldn't carry it all. 'but why did they take too much' ..... sometimes it's better to just say 'i don't know, perhaps ask at nursery'

Goning to call it a night, i think. First glass of wine in a week (are you all impressed). Heading to Bluewater tomorrow (arghh) Finn's tousers are swinging around his ankles and I need something other than jeans to wear to a christening on Sunday. A bullet proof vest might be more appropraite since I'm heading over to Peckham

mrm, regular and panicked when you were late???? You actually have time or the inclination for a sex life? I take my hat off to you

DS has three teeth coming through all at once, too. He's not biting (thankfully) though.

Thank you all for being kind to me while I'm feeling pathetic. This has sort of crept up from nowhere, but I don't think I can talk to rl people at the moment. mrm - I have good neighbours who will take ds for short periods if I need. He isn't really a problem, anyway tbh. I can function reasonably welluntil someone (usually dp, aka Mr Sensitive) says something totally trivial to upset me

csws you may be right about the bf having an effect, too. I'm not sure if I'm going to keep going now ornot. If I wait for ds to ask, I wouldn't feed him at all, but he never refuses when offered.

I thought things were getting more interesting with small people csws. The thing about me and children is I always think the stage I'm at at the time is the best one. I'm even starting to enjoy stroppy 7 a bit more now.

(We are going to Eurodisney August bank holiday weekend)

Well, I'm not offering to take dp off your hands, for any length of time

macca; of course! Thats what makes the world go round. Anyway, worst case scenario; it only takes once!!

ds1 got to 'why?' alot earlier than 3yrs Now he's in 'what if...' and 'I've got a great idea..'. All 3 are as bad as each other! He also begins alot of sentences with 'I choose to...'

csws, cant think of the exact title now, but its basically a 'shagging through the ages' type of thing, but tasteful enough to be sold in normal shops!!