February 2016 - our babies are here!

[IslaMann]

New group for those graduating the ante-natal thread

clara I'd get it checked out. How long has bubs had it? You could ring your hv for advice instead of just going in?

newmama hi again! My babe self settles - sometimes when he's wide awake but has just had a feed and it's bed time I rock him for a while and then just put him down regardless to see what happens and often he just goes. I figure if they can self settle and are happy to then that's great. It's got to be for you and got to work for your baby though. I sometimes feel bad about him being in his cot, but I feed him lying down close to me when he wakes at night so he gets time in the big bed... And he won't be put down so easily during the day so he gets lots of cuddles then.

I actually just woke to him choking on a huge amount of sick that I'm afraid he wouldn't have been able to deal with if I hadn't heard. I had to put him on his front and pat him firmly to get the majority out. The sick had come out of his nose and blocked it and he spent a good while grizzling to try and clear it out of his lungs. I was too scared to put him on his back so now having skin to skin on my tummy. He's calmed right down now and is sleeping but I'm too scared to put him on his back in his cot. Anyone had this before?

fox I missed your post! How are things with you?

newmamma hi! I don't make sure ds is asleep after his midnight feed as after burps and cuddles I put him in his Moses basket and generally don't hear from him until his next feed between 5.30 -6.30. I don't do this during the day though just at night. We don't have set nap times yet, he just falls asleep when he is tired.

haq my ds is constantly sick out of his nose as he is greedy and doesn't want to lose any milk by opening his mouth. Don't forget you are designed to hear when he is struggling which is why it woke you up. I hope you got some more sleep in the end

What counts as self-settling?

For example, this morning DS is in his swing seat. He was awake when I put him in it, then his eyes fluttered, he made some grumble crying sounds (not proper crying, just fighting sleep) and is now asleep.

In the night I fed him, changed his nappy and he was awake. I put him back in his sleeping bag, cuddled him for a couple of minutes and when he was still and calm but not asleep I put him back in his snuzpod. He made his noises like a coffee percolator and fell asleep.

I get that if I hold him and rub his back til he sleeps he's not self settling but what counts as him doing it?

Ps - this isn't some kind of stealth boast, I'm very conscious there are people on this thread struggling with sleep. I am very grateful to apparently have a good sleeper and very conscious things could change at any moment. I just genuinely don't understand what self settling is and what to be aiming for!

I think all of you are very lucky and I would count all of that as self settling! DD doesn't fall asleep on her own day or night, she won't fall asleep even with our help until she's over tired so we wait for the screaming and then rock, feed her for at least 20 mins and have to wait until she's in a deep sleep before we can put her down. Only for her to wake after half an hour! It's exhausting, I'm very jealous of you all

Dd settles herself most nights at bedtime but is incapable of doing it in the night, just wants to be held after her first feed. During the day too she usually needs to be rocked or pushed in pram, think it's too easy for her to get over stimulated during the day.

I can't really say overnight because of the co-sleeping. She comes to bed tired/asleep, and feeds and/or settles. At some point in the night I'm vaguely woken by snuffling, she latches and we just doze off.

Sleeps during the day are in my arms or in the pram. She gets progressively more crap at settling during the day- first one she just dozes off, second she needs a jiggle, later ones require sling. By that point it's around dinner time, and the evening period is currently a fight of varying degrees to get her to stay asleep, which is clearly where she wants to be...

Once she's in somewhat more of a pattern I'll try putting her down for some sleeps, but that won't be for a few weeks yet.

Hi liberty you aren't harming her development. its such early days, just have faith that you'll get there in the sleep wise, you really will.

hacquoi yoga sounds amazing! There's a class around the corner to me which has a childcare person in the class so you can bring your baby, going to check it out on Friday. Won't be as relaxing as your class! We're doing well, my LO has some health issues we require a lot of medication but we're doing well. We have to give the meds every 6 hours so although she sleeps 9-4am roughly we have to wake at 12 her to give her those. She usually goes back to sleep straight away so only a 10 min wake-up but it's so frustrating not to be able to enjoy that stretch! Am feeling pretty tired right now. It's been a hard few weeks being in and out of hospital but now we are in the routine am feeling more positive about the future.

How old is your LO chinchilla?

Evening all!
Just checking in quickly while supervising ds1 in the bath.
liberty you are doing just fine, don't worry! You cannot do them any harm as long as you don't ignore them all day... at least i hope not the only way they can tell us something is by crying so they do tend to do a lot of it!

That sounds scary haq hope you're ok! We're getting LOTS of sick at the moment, it's grim...

Sounds like you've had a tough time xing hope you're ok

Sleepwise we're doing ok. As someone said babycud finds it progressively harder to settle during the day as he gets more tired. In the mornings he just seems to fall asleep wherever! But evenings can be a real battle. Fortunately putting him in the moses basket in the dark with white noise when i go to bed seems to work. Either that or I'm so tired i'm sleeping through any protests. I wouldn't worry too much about self settling at this stage, we just need to do whatever gets everyone as well rested as we can.

Babycud is being very cute at the moment though. After a few really grumpy days, he's spending most waking hours trying to figure out how to suck fingers and thumbs!

Right, best get ds1 into bed, he's knackered and baby is sleeping so i have a chance of this being fairly straightforward if i do it quickly!

Just remembered, in case it helps i meant to say that we do best for sleeps if we can get babycud to drop off around 60-90 minutes after waking which is usually the first signs of him being tired... I'm not a particularly strict one for routines but the days i manage this are definitely less fraught!

And that's at 9 weeks

Thanks for the conjunctivitis advice ladies. After 2 days of funky discharge it has gone to just being watery. I think it might be blocked tear ducts rather than conjunctivitis. Have gp anyway on Thursday so will ask them to look.

Similar sleep patterns here too - doesn't sleep without help during day but seems to manage at night as long as after 9pm.

Poor bubs Haq! I notice our ds choking/coughing on his saliva quite a bit but heard this is normal as they need to learn to swallow!

Sorry, missed the conjunctivitis clara it often doesn't need antibiotics, particularly if the eye itself isn't red or sore looking. We've always been advised to keep clean with cool boiled water then it should settle. Obviously worth getting it looked at if you're worried!

Post vaccination unhappiness. Never heard my boy cry like this before - he's usually so calm! Feeling a bit emotional :( thank f**k for calpol.

Xing, so glad to hear things are getting sorted with your baby's health and that you're feeling more positive. That must have been pretty stressful and scary. You deserve that yoga time! I'm going to head to baby yoga on Friday, see if that's any good :)

haq it's horrible isn't it? Ds was fine by about half 8 he had his jabs at 10. Got the 2nd round on 20th

Ds has been really unsettled today, not happy unless he was on the boob which didn't help with mission rainforest cake for dds homework. I'm bloody knackered now and dh is out for the evening as usual. Dd decided it would be a good idea to stick her head in ds's car seat when he finally dropped off to sleep after lunch out and bloody woke him Up again grrrr!

DD will be 8 weeks Thursday Liberty.

Sorry you've had the fun and games with both the vomit and the jabs haq, not a fun couple of days. Hooray for calpol indeed, and sure he'll be OK tomorrow... I'm dreading DD's next week.

Is it a two person job doing the meds Xing, or could you do alternate nights and get that block of sleep? Sounds like you're managing bloody well with a tough situation, especially with the hospital trips.

Cud we're the matching pair on the sleep, DD hasn't managed to settle this evening. Finally deployed the wrap sling at ten and she's conked. This was after the standard time napping during the day.

And we'll want pictures of the cake clumsy!

We had first set of jabs today too haq not fun

Yes to cake pic too clumsy!
How's your lo coping liberty?
Thanks chinchilla

Puke-opolypse here. So, I awoke to hubby retching in the toilet having woken unable to breathe due to acid reflux (!) Grab him some rennies and water and check on baby: who is awake. I hear him do a little poo so decide to seize the opportunity and give the remainder of calpol before changing. Sit him up and the plunger on the syringe is so stiff that it shoots out causing baby to splutter in shock. I sit him up more, at which of bubs does the biggest sick ever all down my front, pooling on my lap and dripping onto the floor. DH to the rescue: I strip off pyjamas while he holds ds - at which point I notice that poo is also dripping down ds' legs, as well as sick off his arms. My boobs start going as well, spraying everywhere. Long story short, bed covers changed, baby washed and changed, copious amounts of hand washing, the rest of the calpol attempted :s and back to feeding to replace what was lost. DH was a star despite having to be up at 6.30. What a night already.

Haq that has me giggling!!

Xing you sound really strong during a challenging time, onwards and upwards...

First night of DD in moses in my bedroom with me downstairs with the baby monitor - so far so good but I'm scared she's lonely! (While fast asleep hmmm!)

Oh my hacquoi what a night!

Thanks for the positive messages, I appreciate it! DH and I do alternate the meds at night but it's impossible not to wake up with the alarm etc. I'm sure, like everything, it will get easier as she gets older. She's so scrummy though, starting to be a real personality.

Definitely finding day sleep much harder as the day goes on. Well done for starting to have some time to yourself newmama. I feel like we're quite a long way from that!

Xing I missed your previous post. you're doing great! It's hard enough with baby with no underlying health issues.

Oh haq that sounds terrible. We did 2 of the 3 doses of calpol for the jabs. DD is still not herself, very grumpy and has now started refusing her top up formula bottles. She was taking 10oz per 24 hours plus and in the last 24 she's only taken 4oz! Getting rather worried now

Oh no haq what a horrible night! Hope everyone is back to normal today.

newmamma how many times did you run upstairs to check on her?

xing that sounds really hard, glad you have such a fab dh to help though.

I hope I have attached a picture of the cake,dd has waltzed into school with it today absolutely over the moon so all the tiredness is worth it. Please remind me not to ever bake a 4 layered cake with a 9 yo again though!

Great cake clumsy