August 2015 - Jaffa cake wars and many Mugabe greetings to you!

[mzzzf]

New thread ladies - praying for a decent sleep tonight!!

'Trimly'??? I meant 'trumpy'. Damn you autocorrect!

Oh fatty! What a shitter for you. Hope s compensation he sleeps through!

No longer - of course it's not too late for lunch invitstons!! They can ony say no.

My oldest bestie is visiting. So amazing to see her and dd is giving her the biggest smiles! Was a shocker of a day before her arrival though as mini mzzzf decided naps over exactly 45mins was pointless. Cue a tired, don't know what I want, baby! And now she's up and. Just taken a few ounces from her bottle. This is a whole 2hes before she'd normally wake to feed so god knows what the rest of the night will bring... I so ready for a 6/7hrr sleep now baby girl!!

Annoyances :
YY to folks who see you and still keep standing where they are I.e. Right in the sodding way. They give you the same look as when you over take slow coaches with the pram.
This is why I get my shopping delivered mostly - I get supermarket rage at the best of times so can barely handle it with DD in tow.

Of goodness I want to rematch Grays and ER now. House is frickin awesome too!
The new series f catastrophe starts on Tuesday ladies - I cannae wait!

Right I'm off to try to lay her down in the cot and grab some stolen shut eye! Btw I must be mega sleep deprived/baby brain as I woke up to tend to her and was convinced I had a newer newborn baby to look after too, thoughts of double cots by the bed and explaining the issue of same school year / different age to the headteacher too - WHAAAATTT is happening to my brain?!?!!!!

Just lost a massive reply as I hit back GRRRRR! MUGABBBEEEEEE

anyway overall hope those with jabs, samosa eaters, criers etc all get some sleep. We all bloody deserve it x

......That is all for now

Oh Fatty, your poor DS but it is funny too. Hope he has slept now its out of his system. My DD tried to feed chocolate rice crispie cake mixture to the baby a few weeks ago and I stopped to take a picture before intervening. Bad mum that I am.

Mzzzf, I have already set Sky plus for Catastrophe entirely based on your recommendation! Never did manage to find the first series on demand though. Maybe they will show it again?

Slow, yes DH gets Mon/Tues off and some weeks Sun/Mon. Now I'm on mat leave that's great but was rubbish when I was at work as we were like ships that passed in the night some weeks. He is looking for a new job with more regular hours but there isn't much out there at the moment.

I am going to bite the bullet and text some mares re Sunday as Mzzzf says. What's the worst that can happen?

2 wake ups here - 3 and 6 so can't complain. Going to grab another hour before DD wakes.

That reminds me of another irritation. Losing the joy of the clocks going back and getting an extra hour in bed with a toddler. #aintgoingtohappen!

Ha ha Lily! My toddler still does that and I still wake. The supersonic baby cry hearing never goes - even if men don't seem to suffer with it!

Morning all,

Slow I'm the same, I'm terrified of days alone with baby and pre schooler, not because they do anything terrible it's just so lonely without any adult company and very hard to meet both their needs, I feel like a bad parent as if one's happy the other isn't.

Fatty hope your ds is feeling better!

We had an ok night, baby woke twice and then again at 6 but that's ok. What time do you all go to bed? I go at 9ish usually, it helps me get more sleep.

Which nappies are you all using? I'm finding pampers best, but a bit sad that the new baby range stops at size 3, so bought some baby dry yesterday.

I'm using pampers too. She's on size 2 so we have some room to manoeuvre until she's out of the newborn ones. We do have a pack of baby dry though and I'm not a massive fan so might have a look around for some others once she's size 3+.

So mini mzzzf woke again at 4.30am. Not for feeding but just wanted a cuddle and soothing to sleep as she woke up thrashing around and in the cot the wrong way round. How does a baby that can't crawl end up in a different direction in her cot?!!?! So we did ssssh/pat, hand holding, dummy smushed into her chops but nothin would soothe her for longer than 20mins ish. So we for up at 6.15am. Looks like I might have an early riser on my hands. Why on earth though is the second half of the nights sleep so much worse and more disturbed than the first?! I reckon I need to go to bed earlier to get more sleep but I need to dream feed her at 10.30/11pm so I don't see how I can... Ugh such fun!!

Yes slow I will be there with added lid goodies to go with it! We could sit and feed our cluster feeding babies all day with a giant marathon of buffy. It would be perfect.

Fatty I feel for u with all the feeding and the sterilising. I'm sure your children understand. I wonder why he's such a hungry baby.

Oh fatty I missed the samosa tale! Hope ds is ok bless him. My dp gave dd a lick of ice ccream. I was fuming.

Nolonger hope u find someone to spend the weekend with.

Mzzf I know what b u mean about the second part of the night being harder. Hope mini mzzf learns to sleep better soon.

Dd is still doing well on the sleeping at night thing. Has her bottle feed at 11 ish and sleeps through from anywhere between 5 and 7. Generally it's around 6ish. Trying to get her back to sleep after her feed so I can have a lie in. She's fed off both boobs and fallen asleep each time by when I move her she wakes up. Shes currently snuggled next to me sucking on her dummy and appears to be dozing off. I daren't move. I get so cold though when co sleeping. Just want the duvet over me properly.

I'm loving wtching all the box sets but was also thinking it won't last forever because can't watch most famous those things wth children around who understand and she'll start wanting cbeebies soon. I've no decided yet about what kind of parenting I'll be doing in regards to TV and screen play. I'll feel hypocritical if u limit it seeing as I'm addicted but I don't want a kid who sits and stares at an ipad for hours either. Cross that bridge when we get to it.

Morning all. Not much sleep in the dwarf house last night. No extra feeds just terrible, terrible wind poor little sod.

frolic grumpy 2 gets like that when she hasn't had enough daytime sleep. She needs either one 3+ hour nap or a couple of 2 hour naps during the day otherwise she gets grizzly and unsettled in the evening.

giraffes we use cloth nappies but do have a stash of disposables for when we go away. I've used a mixture of Pampers and Morrisons own brand nappies with both girls and tbh haven't noticed a difference in performance in either! Also, I think it was you that mentioned fairy cake making with your eldest. I just wanted to say that you shouldn't feel bad at all, I haven't managed to do anything that involved with my eldest since grumpy 2 was born. You sound like you are doing brilliantly

On the note of weaning, Grumpy 1 asked me today when we would know whether or not grumpy 2 was born vegetarian like Daddy or a meat eater like us! She's also been learning about dinosaurs and is convinced that DH is going to be eaten by a herbivore because he is a veggie! I must confess I have kind of encouraged that misconception because I find it quite hilarious

I remember the forgetting you have a baby phase really well. At some point that I can't quite put my finger on it morphs into the feeling that they have always been there. We were looking at our wedding photos the other day and we searched for grumpy 1 for quite some time until we remembered that we got married 2 years before she was born

DS2 slept, but God his nappy was awful this morning! Poor baby. He is another who ends up in a different position in his cot mzzzf I put him feet to foot, found him this morning at the top, sideways! He is as long as the width of the cot! Although to be fair I do have a space saver cot so its slightly thinner.
dozy I think he's so hungry because he's so big. It takes a lot to fill him up. He was wearing dungarees yesterday, size 3-6 and I couldn't get the poppers on the sides fastened as he's so chunky!

giraffes my oldest two love making fairy cakes. I use Sainsburys nappies. He's in size 3 but they are now getting tight on him. I prefer Sainsbury's nappies. Pampers always leaked for us.

Hello. We are using a combination of Pampers, Sainsbury's and Boots nappies here. Trying to use up size 2 nappies we bought but I think he needs size 3 really. I used to like Huggies with DS1 but they don't do them anymore. Lidl nappies (their Toujours brand I think it's called) were good when we had Ds1 but I think they only start at a larger size.

Oh dear to the samosa! It was probably a good thing he was sick (although bet it didn't feel like it at the time). When DS2 was just a couple of weeks old DS1 told us he'd let him suck pear juice off his fingers after he'd eaten a pear ...

DS2 woke quite a few times last night. Only one feed but still annoying to wake up all the other times. I don't know why. DH got up with him this morning so I had an extra hour in bed which was lovely.

Still no bedtime routine or proper bedtime. I want to start one but I think DH and I are both scared of rocking the boat and making things harder.

Mugabe morning!
I think that all the crying last night was definitely over tiredness. The little dude finally fell asleep at 12, had a feed at 5 and at 7, went straight back to sleep both times and is still snoring now. Frolicdog won't let me sleep anymore and is demanding cuddles.

Thank you again for the box set recommendations. Pretty little liars is great if you're looking for something easy to watch and so bad it's good iykwim!

Sounds like a lovely day nolonger.

I hope N is ok today fatty. I also hope this won't put him off scrummy Indian food for life.

Yes to the smelly farts slow. And a bit of a squishy tummy. I hope you had an ok night.
The dinosaur thing is brilliant! I'm also a meat eater with a veggie husband.

Are you sure those thoughts of a newborn weren't a premonition mzzf? Are you sure you're not pregnant?!
If only we could combine our babies, we'd have such good nights sleeps as ds is crap the first half of the night but great after.

griaffes, we've tried lidl, aldi, asda and pampers. I actually found that pampers leaked the most. They just didn't seem to fit ds as well. The others were much the same really. We do get the odd leak of wee up the back when he lies on his side for some reason. I think we might try size 3 next to see if that helps.

I hope you all have a great Saturday. Ds woke for his first feed in the middle of typing this post. We're all still in bed, dh is whistling and ds is beaming. I love feeling like a little family

giraffes we're currently using Asda because they do size three with a wetness indicator, and Sainsbury's and Aldi don't. I've got another two packs and then I think we need to go up a size. There are no own brand ones in a 4 with a wetness indicator, and he's started doing fewer and bigger wees so we need it less anyway, so we'll probably try to move to cloth, and use Sainsbury's or Aldi when cloth is inconvenient.

Good night here last night! I had a radiator installed it he sitting room yesterday and the noise and disruption meant that DS missed all his daytime naps. He was still quite sweet tempered but SO TIRED. when the plumber left I put him down in the pram and he slept for 2h while I ate dinner, then went straight to sleep at about 8pm and did 4h before a change and a feed, then 3h again! I think I'm going to need to make daytime more exciting for him and cut back on daytime naps if I want a good night of sleep.

I'm sure it won't put him off Indian food.
My mum told me how when she got home from hospital with me, she had gone to make me a bottle and I had stopped crying and started sucking. She discovered my older brother had given me a fruit pastille to suck on! I love fruit pastilles. Especially the black ones

Well I've just had a total meltdown on DH about how I am dreading a weekend with no adult company and how I hate the drudgery of the endless chores that need doing. I honestly don't know how single mums cope as I find it hard enough when DH is around to help.

Giraffes, that is exactly how I feel about a whole day with both and no plans.

Slow, I think I already feel like DS has been here forever and he's not 12 weeks yet. It's so weird. I wish I could stop him growing up so quickly. Someone on here said ages ago that the days drag but the weeks fly by and it is so true!

DS is now napping and DD is watching Peppa so I can grab a few minutes peace. I have a list of tedious jobs to do when she has her nap later and it's raining so I think we'll just stay in today now and do nice things tomorrow.

We use Pampers size 2 nappies at the moment. Still lots of room in them. I always liked Morrisons ones for when they get bigger.

Hope everyone's weekend is lovely xx

Nolonger- in the same boat here DH works every other weekend and should be off today but owes someone a shift so is paying them back! I usually work every other too and as a result don't like going anywhere at weekends as it seems awfully busy compared to when we're off in the week! I know that will find to an end when DS is at school but I've got 4 years until then!

I'll do a quick summary reply as I've left it ages to post again!

Box sets wise- whoever suggested blacklist- how amazing is it!! I have already watched some of the new series on our dodgy app and it is just as good as the first 2 despite the obvious differences based on the last episode of series 2! I think I'm really going to enjoy grey's only 2 episodes in and not needed tissues yet but thanks for the tip whoever suggested it.

Nappies wise we use asda's mainly. We did use aldi's and I think they are softer but they kept sticking to DS's bum which was weird and as aldi isn't as close as Asda and hey work out about the same price when doing the 3 for £12.50 at Asda we have stuck with those. I got a pack of pampers free from ocado and we're using those at the moment but I wouldn't buy them- they are massive compared to he Asda ones- size 2 in both but pampers go right up his back and seem a it loose round he legs although we haven't had any leaks thankfully!

We've been swimming again this morning and DS got ever so tired again we got out early but he did manage 5 minutes longer than last week and even gave me the odd half smile along with the look of confusion! Haha! He gave me some huge grins whilst i was getting him dressed after so at least I know he isn't traumatised by it! I was all over getting him changed this week too- thanks for the tip of not bothering showering whoever suggested it that helped! He's currently fast asleep probably for his long nap but when he wakes up I'll rinse him down and moisturise him so I'm sure he'll be fine! Think we'll just watch greys the rest of the day I'm tired today!

DH wants to attempt to do a full night again tonight- am I crazy to let him!? He wants me to sleep in our room this time though and kick him (his words not mine) when DS is making noise but not say anything so that he gets used to waking to that sound!

Think there's been a burglary round the corner- drove past and there was CSI van outside and the person dusting their front door for prints! Eek! Glad we have an alarm and 2 noisy dogs but also glad DH isn't on nights again any time soon!

Can't keep up with the overnight posts! I'm not checking mn after we go to bed about 9 in an effort to keep my own insomnia at bay. I also took some herbal sominex which said not suitable for breastfeeding women but only because it hadn't been tested to be safe, rather than there being any reason to think it's unsafe iyswim. Hope it will be ok

We had a good night - feeds at 2 and 6.15, which I thought was us up for the day, but when I asked DH to get up with him about 7.30 he went back to sleep til 9.15! Lush lie in. We're paying for it now, with naps taking a lot of effort -had to resort to sling and the weather is miserable so just pacing around the house.

Gosh sound alarming fatty! Glad ds has it out of his system.

We use size 3 aldi nappies. Pretty good. I've occasionally left him overnight and has a leak but otherwise they're great. And cheap.

Hope things improved kbro. Those nights are the worst.

I panic about being on my own all day with just the one. DH only goes to the office a couple of days a week but they are long days and he's not home till well after bedtime. I'm drafting in my mum whenever I can on those days.

Can I nominate DH for my irritation? It's not really in the spirit of things, but he's got such little patience with learning to look after ds I just end up doing it all. OK he can't breastfeed, but he can't carry ds in the sling because of his back, can't bathe him because he's ' too tired ', gives up getting him down for a nap after 10mins and then just says he can't do it so I have to, and when I leave him with a happy, rested, fed ds he's just looking at his phone. He takes a day a week off to help with childcare but doesn't actually end up doing much. OK rant over, guess I just needed to get that out.

Afternoon all,

Still have an unsettled grumpy 2 here, she desperately needs a poo but it just ain't coming, so have resorted to letting her sleep on me. Grumpy 1 is being a superstar about it and is currently playing 'schools' with all her teddy bears. I believe they are discussing the dietary habits of diplodocus...

nolonger hope you feel better for getting that out of your system. Sometimes having a rage, even if it's about something you can't change, can give you a bit of strength to keep going. To all those finding it hard to be on their own effin, giraffes et al and . I think we all have good days and bad days. I hope today is turning out to be a good one.

frolic you are the first person I have come across with the same veggie/non veggie set up! Tell your DH that he is in imminent danger from herbivorous dinosaurs . When you used to go out for dinner did you often get served DHs food? That used to happen to us all the time and it drove me nuts! Are you going to wean DS veggie? I put my foot down with grumpy 1, I wanted to be able to justify roasting a whole chicken again!

effin we'll let your DH onto the irritations list .

This is now the third weekend we've 'lost' DH to vehicle maintenance. It's not quite as bad as having him working (which he also does sometimes) because at least I can see him through the window. Still about as much use as a chocolate teapot when it comes to childcare though. It's entirely our fault for running ridiculous vehicles. Maybe next year we'll grow up and get proper cars.

I know how you without DP/DH there feel. Luckily my DP is fab when he is here. He told me he would stay over again tonight and do the night shift....
I asked what he was after, he only wants to watch football on my telly tomorrow. I think I'll let him. Anything for a decent night's kip. He's not round until later though. So we are watching the 50th episode of Timmy time today, DS2 is asleep on his playmat and DS1 is reading.

We did watch Jurassic world again earlier (I know some people don't approve but my DCs love dinosaurs and arent easily scared) DD told me "I is blue, rooooaaarrr!" And "nomnomnom disore"
If I thought they would be worried by it I wouldn't let them but they are fine.

I've made a cottage pie too. That's in the oven ready to be warmed up later.
Snuggle up and watch Dr who later, Me thinks.
Anyone in the north west, I apologise, DD wants me to sing let it go with her so it may start raining!

Mugabe!

I'm having the opposite problem to all of you who are missing dh's over the weekend in that I was quite pleased when mine went off surfing for the afternoon. I love him so much and he's so good with ds, but he's so freakin slow at doing things with him. I really want him to understand that the window between being a bit tired and ready to sleep and being overtired and fighting sleep is really short. Every time I try to tell him I feel like I'm really hurting his feelings, so it sometimes feels easier to do stuff myself. Aarrgghhhh!

slow, I often get served the veggie meal as well. It's like people don't think a 6ft bloke could possibly have ordered it. I'm totally weaning ds on meat. I really can't wait for a reason to cook proper meat dishes as I often don't bother just for myself. Having said that, I made a big pan of lobscouse earlier this week and ate the lot in a few days. It was so yummy and the chick pea stew I made for dh looked so sad in comparison.

I hope you're all having a good day? Ds is asleep after a long pram / dog walk and I'm hoping he stays like that so I can watch some shit tv.

Thanks everyone. You have all made me feel so much better . It's also nice to know I'm not alone. Definitely also helped to just have a rant!

DD has probably watched too much tv and DS has been really sleepy so the day wasn't anywhere near as bad as I feared.

Fatty, that sounds like a great day. It is so miserable and grey in the north today.

Frolic, yy to slow DHs! I hate faffing of any kind and he takes so long to do anything even as simple as a wet nappy change. On the other hand he does wash up and iron which are my least favourite jobs!

Slow, what kind of vehicles is he maintaining? I'm intrigued!

Lily, you should definitely take him up on the offer but I'd be in the spare room with earplugs if I were you! He'll soon wake up even without a kick.

Effin, yup your DH is welcome to be an irritation. I think we have all felt like that. Mine doesn't like the sling either!

Am going to bath the kids and then get into bed myself I reckon to try and bank some sleep if possible xx

nolonger good idea on trying to grab some sleep while you can. We've just been playing dinosaurs. It's so funny watching DD stomp round as she's tiny. DS2 loved being chased round and "gobbled up" he was giggling his little head off. now it's bath and bed for the toddler, and DS1 can jump in a shower before Dr who comes on.

Nolonger- I did spare room last time albeit not with earplugs and with the monitor! Thing was once he did finally get up to tend to him DS was hysterical and I don't think it's fair to let him get so worked up! So at least this way I know he'll be sorting him before he gets too upset!

Fatty the weather really was awful today but thanks because it was the perfect excuse to cuddle with DS on the couch! Your game of dinosaurs sounds fantastic! Me and my cousins used to play a similar game when we were little!

Are everyone's LOs giggling? Like actual giggles? DS does delighted shrieks and coos with big gummy smiles but we are yet to have actual giggles.

I'm going to take him the Docs on Monday- I think he's got eczema another rubbish thing he's inherited from me! Worried about him today too he's had a grand total of 16oz all day from 7am and one of those feeds was followed by a big sick- he face planted the water abit at swimming and possibly swallowed some so I'm wondering if it's thrown him off for the day? He's pretty much just slept all day too- waking for a feed screaming like he's starving then only having a bit! If he's the same tommorrow at least I can ask the doc about it on Monday! That said he has been smiling loads still and seems himself so he must be ok right?