August 2015 - Let the Sleepless Nights Commence

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My DC2 was born on 5th August and I'm up in the wee hours feeding away. Anyone else with their August babies care to join me?

I still can't believe he's here and in my arms!

It's so sad to hear of people struggling to conceive. I'm very very lucky. DS1 it took 3 months, DD we only DTD once without anything, DS2 was a contraception fail. (Pill) so I'm lucky and unlucky all at the same time!

I use a medicine syringe for gripe water. I had zero, yep, zero sleep last night. And I can't get any today either. tonight I have DB staying over too so an extra child OK, he's 13 so not exactly a child but he's my baby brother

Just ordered a cat scratching tree for my pussy 22 quid from Amazon and its massive, yet pets at home wanted 35 quid for a tiny one! Also ordered snow suits for the babies. DS2s has poppers like a baby gro so I can change him when out and about without the faff of completely stripping him off.

I bought DD a new dolls pram the other day, and that has arrived. I had to buy her a tandem as she kept trying to put both her babies in the pram she had. Bless her.

I want a holiday. I can't afford one though. I've never been abroad. Furthest I've been is to Scotland. I need to get saving.

Internet shopping is the way forward for food and all many of other goodies. But it's dangerous when you're pinned to the sofa and just have your phone to hand

Sorry for the shit nights all round. I think I've got used to DDs sleep now so even if I can get 3hrs I feel like I had a 'night'. Bizarre how the body adapts, but I've never needed massive amounts of sleep. Although I'd kill for a night in a hotel right now, if unbridled passionate napping on a ready made clean bed!!

Did any of you catch Catastrophe when it was it was originally shown on channel 4?! I'm watching it on All4 catch up now - it's hilarious!

So tonight I'm being brave and leaving mini mzzzf in the care of the MiL whilst DH and I go and watch a rugby match in Glasgow. We'll only be gone for a few hours but I'm already nervous to leave her!!!

For the gripe water and later for paracetamol etc having little syringes is perfect for getting stuff in them!
DD got her appt through for her jabs already for early October. Thankfully daddy is off on that day so he can be the bad guy!!

Lol mzzf I always thought pre baby that I'd be happy to leave dd with people but now I have her I really don't. I trust my mum but no one else. I'm leaving her with dp and his parents while I go pick up my friends from the airport tonight and I'm dreading it. I like her to not be too over stimulated in the evening to try to help the future bedtime routine and also she feeds off me a lot at night so I don't want her to be awake and crying and then given a bottle because I'm not there to feed her. But I'll just have to accept it.

How come they sleep when u don't want them too haha. Dd has been fast asleep since 10am. It's now 2pm and I want to feed her so I can go do other things but I know she'll wake up soon so I can't go do stuff now. It's typical.

kbro if I believed all I read in the Daily Mail I would have had no children - 4 of mine conceived in my 40's! fatty I struggled to conceive for 7 years but am now so lucky to have my 6DCs, all conceived naturally.

mzzzf internet shopping is lethal - I am on first name terms with the local courier!

I hate to say I've had a good week of night time sleeping - feel bad for those that haven't and don't want to jinx it - DD seems to sleep in 3 hour bursts from 9pm until 6/7ish am - like you all say it's amazing how happy you are to get 3 hours of uninterrupted sleep

Mzzzf so funny you mention catastrophe. Just saw a trailer for it and thought how good it looks. Will give it a try.

Yesterday I walked to boots (45 mins away) to buy a syringe for the gripe water and somehow forgot it. It was the only bloody thing I needed!! Dam baby brain.

Fatty that's rubbish. Strong coffee and hope you get some sleep tonight.

Mzzzf have a fab time tonight. Enjoy!!

Well she wouldn't really open her mouth very wide for the dentist but he was fairly pleased with what he could see and that she's never had juice. Baby slept like a wee angel. The dental nurses were all cooing like mad over her.

Today I managed two children in:
Dentist
Cafe
Tesco
Matalan

Boom! So allowed cake tonight!*

*I realise that for Fatty and Love this is in no way impressive.

Have fun with your visitors, Dozy. My friend did the dishes and all manner of useful things like entertaining dd1 and holding dd2.

Loveandsmiles how wonderful after 7 years to have 6. What a lovely happy ending. Also will mention this to DH as I always fancied 3 and he (Mr sensitivity) said that he doesn't think I have time to have another 2. Cheeky sod.

Dozy tell me about it. DS just fell asleep as I walked through the door with the pram. By the time I'd got it upstairs he was wide awake again. Hey ho!

Hi ladies,

Hope you are all well. DS seems to be over his virus now after a pretty bad 48 hours and is sleeping soundly on me at the moment. My DD has been amazing though and understood she had to be a good girl as the baby was poorly and mummy hadn't slept much.

Clstow, we use the calpol syringe to give Gripe Water and it works a treat. Aim for the side of the cheek to minimise choking and encourage swallowing.

Re. expressing, I am doing it once a day so DH can give it in the evening as my eldest was a bottle refuser and I'm not going through that again! So we tend to use what I express on the same day but I've got 3 x 5oz frozen so far so hoping to get a bit more. Haven't expressed or given bottle for the last couple of days though.

Magrat , I do things like staying up late planning holidays or looking on Rightmove and then DS wakes an hour after I fall asleep. Why do we not learn?! Where are you going on holiday btw?

Fatty, I can't believe you had literally no sleep. I am suffering but still managed around 3 hours total. Don't know how you are functioning.

Mzzzf, what's Catastrophe? I need stuff to make me laugh when I'm trapped on the sofa when DS has a mammoth feeding session.

Love, that's amazing! What a positive story. I think we are done at 2 but would possibly want a third and I was worried about being too old now I'm 35 so would prob be 36 or 37 before we are ready.

Joskar, well done you! I had both today and managed the post office. Thought I was doing well until DD took off her nappy and pooed on the floor just as DS threw up down my back!

Wishing you all an uninterrupted 3 hours or more of sleep tonight!

love how amazing for you!
nolonger it was a mix of DS2 and DS1 having night terrors that had me up all night. I managed an hours nap when the babies were asleep before and DS1 and DB were watching lion king 3

Ds has had a pretty shitty day, poor little dude. He's been really grumpy since lunch time, cried loads, barely fed for more than 5 mins at a time (usually does 15-20) and faught sleep all day. We are both exhausted. And we never made it to the beach.

Have you booked to go anywhere nice magrat? We're thinking about booking something for next September but can't decide where.

I hope you managed to get ds to sleep kbro. We also took ds out for a big walk and he woke up as soon as we got home. He usually stays asleep for a good hour or so.

Sniggering at your pussy enjoying a good scratch fatty .

It is indeed deadly and expensive being stuck on the sofa with a baby and a smartphone mzzf. Only now I'm spending all my money on clothes and stuff for ds rather than myself.
I hope you enjoy the rugby tonight. I'm sure mini mzzf will be fine.

Well done on the good sleeps loves. Never feel bad about telling us positive news - it gives us all hope!

Well done on getting all that done jockstar. I'm in awe of all of you who are looking after other children along with your newborns.

All this talk of conceiving is interesting. I'm another one who thought that, because I was 'older' (35), it would take an age to conceive or never happen. I fell pregnant after 3 cycles and will be forever grateful for that.
It's also great to hear from those of you who have had babies in their 40's. Despite vowing never to be pregnant again, I'm kind of coming around to the idea of a sibling for ds, but may need to wait a few years to forget the hyperemesis.

Wishing for sleepy nights all round.

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Very glad your ds is on the mend nolonger.

Another of the "older" ones here - I assumed it would take a while and we'd have trouble because I was 37 but fell pregnant on literally the first shag. I did miscarry the first, but I fell pregnant again in the next cycle after, so it kind of felt like a year long pregnancy. I shouldn't really be so surprised - my grandmother started her family of four children at 40, my mum and aunt were in their 30s, and I've since found out that an aunt had an accidental pregnancy (sadly miscarried) at 50! I think if we do decide to have another I've still got a fair shot at being able, but I can't decide if I want to - I sort of want to be able to devote everything to the one, but I know how awful it was to have all that pressure on me alone growing up, too. I think it'll just depend on how our lives go for the next few years.

Catastrophe is a hilarious (so far!) series on the channel 4 catch up about a lady who gets pregnant from a fling and how they deal with it. Lots of swearing, inappropriate comments and hilarity!

So my escape last night went well. Mini mzzzf survived and so did the MIL!! Ok so every light in the house was practically on and I was happily informed that when we arrived home at 10.30pm that she'd been up for a good 3hrs (WTF?!) poor DDs eyes were on stalks when we came in and DH took her straightaway to which she started whingey little cries of "daddy please get me to sleep". Bless her! But she ultimately was ok and it was her and MILs first time alone with each other. Maybe next time we'll take all but two of the downstairs light bulbs out so she can't have every light on!!
It was lovely being out with DH, there were random moments when I totally forgot I had a DD to get back to - how does that happen?! And then others when I was badly wanted to know how she was! Nuts!

I'm an older one too, I'll be 35 at the end of the year and she is my first. Having spoken to DH, and despite how horrendous 'birth' was for me, I do want no.2 if it is at all possible. We conceived pretty quickly after I came off the pill which was totally surprising as everyone and his dog told me I'd take forever to get sprogged up! So likely is that no.2 would come along in 2yrs ish, since I've been told you have to wait 18months between sections, which I would need again due to my exit route being a bit non-compliant!
Do you really need to wait 18mths between sections?! As that'll be 18+9 (if preggo straightaway) so over 2yrs, making me 37 ish... So a very long winded way of saying "woohoo" to older ladies getting sprogged!!

Now I'm pretty sure this is the wrong way round but I'm downstairs giving DH a lie in! Mini mzzzf woke up at 6am promptly and wanted out of the gro bag and to play, talk, giggle and DH was fast asleep so we escaped downstairs to eat biscuits (me , not her obvs!)

I'm a young mum. I was 17 when I had DS1, 22 when I had DD and DS2 was born 9 days before my 24th birthday! I don't think any of you are "older" I don't like that anyway, you are "older" if you are over 30 apparently. My mum was 31 when she had my youngest brother and she was an "older" mum!

Ooof! What a night! Dd2 is so congested. She isn't managing to sleep on her back at all. No amount of saline or snot sucking shifts it. Olbas has no effect. My poor wee lassie.

I'm 35. I thought it would take us ages to fall second time round but first go. Dh and I are very lucky. I'm fairly certain we'll try for another in a few years. Need to sort out our housing situation though. We live in a very small rented house.

My mum had me at 35, I'm 32, so back in her day it was unheard of to have babies at that age and she was called a geriatric mother! But now it's more usual to wait to your 30s. I wanted kids years ago but I never met anyone until my dp nearly 3 years ago. We conceived on our 2nd anniversary after 5 months of trying. Those 5 months were longest 5 months of my life! Felt like we'd never get pregnant when really when u look back 5 months is nothing.

Great hearing everyone's stories. Love and smiles that's such a fab happy ending that you got. Still think you're mad having 6 heehee but must be fun to live in your house. I used to want 4 but not anymore. I'm too disorganised and lazy for all that extra work. I'm worried enough how I'll manage with just this one.

Our usual evening routine got messed up a little by me going to the airport. I'd fed her as much as I could before I left hoping she'd go to sleep but she didn't fall asleep before I left so I knew it would all go wrong then. Because she was at dp family's house so lots of people to keep her awake so because I wasn't there to feed her she had a bottle earlier than she usually would which meant she was fast asleep for ages afterwards and my boobs got really full. If I'd not had my friends with me by this point I would have expressed before going to sleep but it was already late. Anyway she's fed well overnight off me so my boobs feel.better now.

oh gosh fatty I am probably old enough to be your mum!! - I don't feel 'old' - sometimes forget age but it is just a number, as long as you are fit and well I don't think it should matter. Hats off to you for having 2 though - I still lived at home at your age!!

joskar it's horrible when they are all bunged up and can't breathe - have you tried taking her in a steamy shower with you? I've had many a steamy shower in the middle of the night - not with DH! - with snot filled DCs

mzzzf going to check out Catastrophe - sounds good. Very considerate of you letting DH have peace - he owes you big time!

frolic hope your DS is better today. It's amazing how quickly you forget horror pregnancies and births and go on to have more - for the last 4 pregnancies I said 'never again' every day for 9 months

hope you got some sleep now DS is a bit better nolonger. All of my DCs were bottle refusers - I exclusively breast fed them all until 12 months then they all just went straight onto a cup as none would drink from a bottle - very strange but it saved weaning them off a bottle (weaning them off a breast was hard enough!)

kbro lol at your insensitive DH - so unfair that men can have babies forever! I second using a Calpol syringe into side of mouth!!

We are off to watch DS play football now - lovely early start- it looks like it's about to pour down - fingers crossed it stays dry for a few hours.

Have a good day .........

i hope everyone is having a good day. Ds has been in a lovely mood and so we've been out and about enjoying the sunshine. We picked loads of blackberries for pie and sloe's for gin. I made loads last year but missed out on drinking it due to being pregnant. I plan on making up for it this Christmas .

Interesting that so many of us have got pregnant pretty easily in our mid 30's. You wouldn't have thought so from reading the papers at times.
I'm always impressed by women who have children young fatty. At that age I could barely keep myself alive!

Glad it went ok last night mzzf, even if it might have cost you a small fortune in electricity.

I hope dd is better jockstar.

I said never again pretty much every day from my bfp loves! Now I'm packing ds' newborn things into storage rather than giving them away.
Like siani, I'm not sure if I want him to be an only child in case he feel's burdened by us in a way.

I hope your friends visit is going well dozy.

Dh has just gone to get us a curry. I'm so hungry all the time with the breastfeeding. I'm also still addicted to the digestives! I may well be in maternity jeans forever

There's a new study out that says that sperm wears out too. Men might not have a menopause but they get less fertile same as women so there's no call for smugness on their part! There's no rules though and women have always been having "late" babies. My granny had her last child at 46. The war got in the way of them having all their babies early on. She had 6. I think I'd like 4 but three makes more sense I know. You can fit three in the back of an ordinary car etc. We will need a bigger house though. It's a squash and a squeeze with the four of us as it is and dd2 barely counts!

I might well try the shower tonight, love. She's still very stuffy. Poor wee soul. She's so good and doesn't cry but looks up at me all beseechingly. She has fed and fed and fed today. Surely the weight will be dropping off me!

I'm off for a bath in a minute. DS has done nothing but feed all day and cries on his dad. Being very clingy to mummy.

frolic no need to be impressed, I'm only doing the same as you! And I am able to do it young because I have to, its not really a choice anymore, I think I'm stuck with them its a good job I like them.

I second Catastrophe being great. We went to Norfolk today to see the seals- was great but so tired now! We booked to go back to Iceland next summer- we love it there and have friends who live in a town in the East of the island. Excited already!!

Oh I've always fancied Iceland. One of those places that looks magical along with the Norweigian fjords (?sp). What a nice thing to have to look forward to.

Am quite surprised so many of us as "older" too but irl most of my nct friends from my first pregnancy were a similar age too. It is definitely getting more common. When my mum had my sister she was considered an elderly mum at 28!!

Tried to look for Catastrophe tonight on Catch Up but only found a documentary series about natural disasters!! My sleep deprived brain clearly did something wrong so will look again tomorrow. Does anyone watch Strictly btw? I always feel like Christmas is coming once Strictly starts!

DD has a birthday party to go to tomorrow so looking forward to that. I'm taking both kids so DH can get the garden sorted for winter and cook us a roast. Sounds like a reasonable deal to me as DD will be occupied so not too much wrangling required!

Hope your DD's stuffy nose clears up Joskar. Poor little mite.

Night night everyone.

Hey all. I'm another one who believed the media/fertility doom mongerers and told OH it would probably take us a year to conceive... It took two weeks! He's been telling people about his super sperm at every opportunity since

Always thought I only wanted one and now I've been through labour and the first few crazy weeks I feel even more like that. Will be interesting to see if that changes in the coming months.

I love Iceland Magrat, we went in May while I was pregnant and it's so beautiful and strange looking isn't it. Nice to get out of Reykjavik as well, we got as far East as Hofn - incredible seafood.

I loved Catastrophe when I was preggo, it's hilarious. Think I have a bit of a crush on Rob Delaney as well

We are at my parents house this weekend celebrating their wedding anniversary - 45 years! They are such a fab couple and very inspirational I think. You don't meet many people who last that long these days. They are so brill and help so much with DS, I feel very lucky to have them.

Great that your DS is on the mend Nolonger.

Hope everyone's Saturday night is going ok and hurrah for Sunday's when OHs can give us all a lie in (she says hopefully...)

Yep Iceland is great and if you use airbnb and self cater it is fairly reasonable. Clstow I would recommend the north up around akuyeri and skagastrond- beautiful, natural, less touristy etc.

I qatch strictly but have to say I'm not impressed with this series so far it feels a bit flat. I love Anton du beke though!!

I was panicking about fertility at 32! My mom had me at the same age and was classed as.a.geriatric mom madness!

Nolonger I love strictly. And agree it feels like the count down to christmas.

Clstow my DH does the same - brags about his super sperm. I always say to him I should be the one bragging as took only 1 egg and you needed 8 million sperms to find it.

Totally agree age is just a number. In my head I still think am 25 (not 36) That said I do think they could find a slightly more sensitive term than 'geriatric mother'. When we had our 12 week scan student doctor was in the room and she said to me have you felt the baby move yet. I said no, isn't it a bit early and she replied 'well when you have children at your age, you know much later in life, everything is a lot slacker down there so you feel movements earlier'. Great. Good to know everything is just clinging on by a few threads.

Mzzzf I watched the first episode of catastrophe. V funny.

Dozy I just remembered but I meant to say to you the other day that DS sometimes does the same to me with the feeding (rooting for food but when put on the Breast not able to feed and even crying when it's in his mouth) My HV suggested that it could be cause I was changing breasts too much and he was getting frustrated at having too much foremilk. She said to switch back to last boob if he does it and see if that helps. Not sure if it's the same for you but thought would share in case.

Massive success yesterday. DS had a proper long nap in his crib. Not sure if it's related but he was much better in the evening. Still fairly unsettled and clingy with my boobs but much less screaming as not so over tired. Fingers crossed for today.

Hope everyone has lovely Sunday's. All this holiday talk is making me want to browse holidays too.