June 2013: Here come the terrible twos!

[HungryHorace]

New thread. :-)

Well i tried to send a PM to the two of you and clearly failed. I'll pm my email address so we can go rogue!

We've had 1word sentences for ages and then a month ago got a 2 word sentence and then 2 weeks ago it became 3 word sentences and now this week the ratbag just repeats everything we say.

I need to vent about what a friend said to me this morning. She says things like this ocassionally and i know she's not trying to be hurtful but grrrr.

She's a stay at home mum and when we were commenting on the fact her child can draw zigzags and my child can't she launched into this 'oh well its because I give him one on one time. I'm sure nursery tries to teach her things but what can they do when its 6 kids to each staff member'.

I work 3 fecking days a week. Its not like I've abdicated all my bloody parenting to nursery. Fuck off dear friend.

Oooft. That would drive me crazy Sunny! on your behalf. So what if your DD has a little less one on one time. What she gains at nursery MORE than makes up for that. (Disclaimer: DS also does 3 days of nursery, I feel no guilt about this whatsoever usually I can see how he benefits from that plus I have more energy to do varied things with him on the days that I do spend with him)

Yep, pm-ing seems to be hit and miss. Will await your email address instead

Yes i have absolutely no issue with sahm vs working mums. I just have an issue with people who want to tell me their method of parenting is better than mine!

We don't have a downstairs loo either. I'm just realising how much easier life would be if we had one. With toilet training, and trying to keep baby safe from cats and a toddler.

DD pretty much talks in sentences now. It's fascinating how they pick language up without you having to teach them as such. Ok, so I've taught her the words for things but she's worked out which words to add to form sentences, and where to add them in. I'm constantly amazed.

We've just had 7 hours of uninterrupted sleep (at 5 weeks). I think DD was around 8 weeks when she slept through for this long and I thought we were lucky then. He's only been waking once for the past 5 or so days so boobs aren't in too bad a state either. Just awaiting the next growth spurt now!

We are more or less the same with sleep. She's two months today and for the last week or so has been sleeping from 10 ish to 430/5 ish. Back to sleep until 8. Gives me a chance to sort pollys breakfast etc if it's a home day. It certainly gets easier!

Has your DD started to breastfeed her babies? Polly lifts her top up to feed the doll and says come on Juju while she does it! Clearly copying me!

That's what we got: 10 till 5, a feed on both sides then back to sleep for a few hours! It does get better!

This was our conversation this morning (she used full names, I'm abbreviating):

"J have little drink. Tasty milk"
"Yes"
"Where's I's boobs?"
"You haven't got any"
"Buy boobs"

So she's obviously been thinking about it!

You know we shouldn't have said that. The heat will there them now!

Polly has never said her name. 'What's your name Polly?' 'Me's!!' ; 'what's baby's name?' 'Baby Juju'!!

Throw them now, obviously

It was hot here last night so I was very surprised he didn't want to feed non-stop. I'm paying for it now though . It's still very warm, but raining!

DD is currently teaching DS words. Pointing to my boob, saying "What's that? Boob". I hope it's not his first word. She also likes prodding other people's boobs and saying "boobs". Luckily only family members so far!

DD calls herself 'Meme'. So clearly mixing her name up with 'me'!

I wish DS would go 7 hours. I think he's only done that long a handful of times. So frustrating (but typical of allergy / intolerant babies, IME). He reverse cycles so refuses milk at naps but then wants it overnight. Grrr!

Wow, 7 hours from these youngsters. We still sometimes get this from the toddler...
We are still plagued by the 530am daily starts - when oh when is this phase going to end?

I don't know Sunbeam. If/when you discover the answer then pleeeeease let me know. Yawn. It's exhausting.

A friend was bemoaning 7am wakeups to me. 7am?!?!? That is a lie in, surely!?!

7am is a dream!

I've said it before but DD used to wake up very early when she was younger. We made her bedtime earlier and she started sleeping in later! 7am is perfect for us as I naturally wake up at around 6am.

We are very very lucky then (so far!). I feel for you all.

My neighbours DD is 10 days younger than Lil and is fully potty trained which made me

However DH pointed out that this kid gets up at 5.30am. We both agreed we'd rather another year of nappies and a kid that gets up at 7am vs a potty trained 5.30am getter upper.

Humph. I have a 5.30 nappy wearing getter upper Who I love dearly, obvs

The only morning DS has slept in recently was the morning after his party - he slept until 8am instead of the usual 5.30am! He was so active at the party that his hair was soaked with sweat! Guess we need to run him like a dog each day!

I rarely mention my children's sleeping patterns in real life. As people look at me as though they want to stab me. Despite my best efforts polly is rarely in bed before 730. She's not home until gone six on a nursery day and it's just too much effort to get her through tea and wind down before seven. She rarely falls asleep until eight. Plays with animals until then. Sleeps till seven ish most days. Has a nap of an hour to two hours.

I have a couple of pregnant friends whose older one still wakes regularly. That will be fun.,.

DD is mostly OK (with a similar routine to Polly) at sleeping. Unless teething or illness strikes. Or even heat, like this week.

Bloody DS though. Argghhhh. The worse thing is that he doesn't actually want to be awake, so I'm not sure why he wakes really. Habit, I suppose.

Sleep is tricky to discuss in rl sometimes isn't it? I know people whose children sleep better than ds and who sleep worse. I don't imagine in a month of sundays any parent is doing anything to jeopardise their sleep. It's just that every child is different. And every family is different.

DS has got loads better recently, though his recent refusal of reflux medication has (?coincidentally) meant that sleep has been worse. He took it properly yesterday and slept through, despite the heat. Go figure!

If it makes you all feel better while DD is a good sleeper I'm a chronic insomniac so can't even take advantage of all this sleep she gets. Apart from Sunday nights as that's when I take my weekly sleeping tablet so that I at least get 1 full nights sleep a week

DD is asleep by 7pm. Before DS was born, after 7pm was my essential me-time as I'm at home all day. I can't wait till DS has a 7pm bedtime too! Both kids are asleep now but I need some time alone to relax after the day I've had. I rarely discuss with people in real life either. It's not something that comes up. I think it's mainly down to luck. It's interesting seeing how they all differ. Nothing wakes DD nowadays. If she's teething she might wake up after her nap (she still has a couple of hours) or in the morning and be upset and tell us her teeth hurt but her sleep doesn't seem to have been affected lately.

How annoying, sunny. I suffered during pregnancy and can't imagine how you deal with it permanently.

Although I should add that DH looks after DS every evening so I can still have a relaxing bath. Though it's not relaxing if DS decides he needs another feed during that time...

DS goes to bed at 7 ish (about 15 mins' tolerance either side). He loves his sleep, just wakes at night still. But we achieved no milk overnight last night, so I'm hoping once he clicks he doesn't need that he also won't wake.

And, thinking about it, I prefer a midnight wake up to a 5am one, as my alarm goes off at 5.30, so I'd end up just being up from 5. But at midnight I can just go back to sleep while DH deals!

To be honest, we don't have it that bad really. Could be better but could definitely be worse!

I know people who had babies that wake every sleep cycle. Every hour. Can you imagine!! I do think it's mainly luck though some people do crazy stuff which can't help; when her daughter wakes she gives her biscuits and let's her watch TV?!

Similar to you though sunny I am a terrible sleeper. I'm actually sleeping ok at the moment as I have no work to think about and getting up to feed the baby normally helps me to then go back to sleep. During pregnancy I took sleeping pills almost every night which I felt awful about despite doctor saying ok. But without I only slept an hour or two.

Polly does occasionally wake with a nightmare or something but it's dealt with quickly.

Absolutely dread her being in a proper bed and being toilet trained. That means her waking me up in the night to do a wee doesn't it....