November 2014 - The one where they won't stay still.

[MrsAukerman]

New thread, new moves, new poo!

Ha ha ha Ladydolly that's really made me laugh out loud , , !!!

Oh, I should say I was laughing at your comment re the hot-pants woman!

Anna, according to wonder weeks dd is in a fussy phase which could last 2 weeks. That explains it then. I'm hoping for a better night tonight but she's already woken once since she went down just before 7, so expect she will wake up when I go to bed in a minute. I can't really feel if she has any more teeth coming through as she chomps on my finger hard with the two front ones. I always said I would give up bf once she has teeth but I'm not quite ready yet so hope it's going to get better.

he he he!

OK, I think we'll start with peekaboo when we're back from hols. Hope its working for the other purchasers!!

Yesterday she had a 2hr nap in the morning & refused to sleep ALL afternoon. By bedtime she'd been up 6hrs & mustve been so exhausted as she sttn with not a single wake up! Up early at 5.50am but I didnt mind after my first full night's sleep in 10 months!

I didnt buy the trust techniques book as dd was already settling in cot but the techniques everyone is describing sounds very similar to what we did. We put her down awake & initially stayed with her with hand on her chest, reassuring if she got upset til she went to sleep. Over time this has progressed to me putting her in & leaving her to it. I lay on my bed next to her cot & MN til she's asleep (only coz I cba to traipse down 2 flights of stairs til I know she's asleep!).

Hoping once she's in her own room I can progress to walking out straight away. We're going to wait til school hols to move her so its least disruptive for ds.

Dd is being ridiculous tonight, don't even know how many wake ups so far after a day of shit naps. She's smothered with a cold but I'm really fed up now dh is taking some time off in July, I think we're going to have to do some kind of sleep training.

We usually wait around in the bedroom while DD falls asleep for the night, but last night she was struggling to go. I thought maybe I should leave the room as I might be disturbing her. Once on her own she started crying, so I walked in to shush her, repeated it another time, but she still wouldn't settle. So I ditched all the techniques and picked her up. She did a massive burp. Back in the cot, she turned me back, facing Ewan, picked his ears for few minutes and was flat out till 1.30am. She slept till 7.30, so I call it a good night despite two wakings.

Meal wise I seem to abuse heavily ricotta and banana, if out of ideas, just mush them with some fruit or similar and meal is ready.

We've had the burp thing a few times. Its deceptive cos you think they're just not settling.

Last night was the second night in a row of 7-7. I still don't trust it as far as I can throw it, and stay awake till midnight on tenterhooks. Last night he also didn't feed to sleep for the first time ever. He'd eaten tons yesterday so just wasn't hungry and refused the bottle. I stuck the dummy in instead and hey presto! Same result! He was asleep in five minutes.

Probably helps that he's ditched his late afternoon nap. He's regularly awake from 2.30 these days. It means we have a very cranky baby by 6 though so that last hour is stressful.

Terrible night. Hoping for a repeat of last Tuesday: terrible Monday night, 2hr long nap, 6hr stretch of sleep at night. But not really expecting it.
DH told me he didn't go through with the dairy trial he said he might do on Sunday, so I can't even blame that.

Same here happy :(

My two cents on the dairy thing. I think some babies ARE a bit intolerant (not to the allergic state but intolerant - I would include my dd2 in this) as very young babies, but grow out of it after a few months. However the early unsettledness sort of sets the sleep pattern in the baby and that's the light sleep pattern they adopt for quite a while thereafter.

I am giving dd2 dairy freely now apart from cow's milk which I'm not going to give until after 1. She has a bottle of regular formula at the CM, and eats cheese fairly regularly. Since starting the formula and solids her sleep has been interchangeably decent and nonsense as usual, so I certainly can't say that the dairy has made her worse. She is deffo allergic to eggs, but is not getting allergy tested until she's 10 months old so ages to wait yet

Photo comp if people don't mind liking 2 different ones as one is my eldest and other is baby thanks :)
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east your kids are so cute! Just liked both of them. Your eldest's cheeky smile is gorgeous!

Thanks moggle it's an amazing pic of my eldest he normally has a photo smile which is creepy at best :)

grreenstone actually your post is very much how DH and I feel. I do believe that DD was CMPI when she was diagnosed at 6 weeks (DH sometimes agrees). This may or may not have been caused by a course of strong antibiotics, as the antibiotics could have destroyed her natural gut bacteria. I think she has now probably outgrown it.
How did you decide to try reintroducing your DD to dairy?
I am considering doing my own milk ladder challenge except I don't want to give her biscuits so young so will have to skip the malted milk step and start a bit further on.
For dinner I made her cauliflower cheese with the dairy-free cheese sauce mix I had got. It might just be coincidence but it was the least popular dinner I have given her. She was not impressed!

I didn't get a repeat of the 6hr stretch of sleep, or very much sleep at all :(

First night back in my own bed was amazing. I think 3 wake ups from ds between bed at 9 (!) and up at 6.45. Dh slept on the sofa as he fell asleep catching up on GOT and ds spent a large portion of the night in with me but I can't bring myself to be arsed!
Sorry you had a shitty night happy - are you doing this book thing or not?

Yesterday dd2 was just not settling for her nap - wanted to mess and look around, so I eventually decided to get tough (I really needed her to nap as she's been attempting to skip her afternoon nap completely of late). Put her in the cot, shushed and jiggled her and just let her cry a bit until she went to sleep. It took 15 (felt like much longer) minutes to get her fully to sleep with a bit of full on crying and a bit of moany protesting. I was hot and bothered afterwards but made a cup of tea and she slept for over an hour so I thought good.

Night - she went down fine around 7.30. I went to bed at 9.45 and she woke a minute later :( so I went into her. Again she just wanted to mess and fuss instead of settle and I just thought 'I'm not feeding you.' Didn't settle in my arms so I attempted a repeat of the shush and jiggle of earlier.

It went on for 2 hours and I fed at 11pm but she still didn't want to settle.

Dh then took over (tried her in his arms) and it went on for another 40 minutes except she was full-on crying most of that time, she was so wound up, pissed off, and overtired. Eventually I found a dummy (she gave them up about a month ago) and that finally quietened her enough to go to sleep. It took 3 hours in total.

She slept then until 5.45 (a full 5 hours) which was obviously much-needed for both of us, then woke for a feed and went back down fine with no dummy until 7.30.

I feel really horrible about it all today and I'm sure dh does too. Just don't know how to approach this. i still think it's worth not feeding her again if she wakes 2 hours after going to bed but lord the drama about it all. And then even feeding her sometimes doesn't work. I get so frustrated with her even as I KNOW she can't help it and is just a little baby! I need a serious kick up the arse and I think I need to admit that I'm not cut out for sleep training that involves any cc. I think I will inevitably just bungle it/do it wrong and make it much worse for everyone and that's not fair.

greenstone massive massive sympathy hugs. I'm in the same sleepless, tear filled boat.

Last night she would not settle, even in the boob, she was hysterical at one point and I had to get her out of the bedroom and start again. Took about an hour to get her down. Up again about 8.30. Then again at 10. and 12. I brought her to bed at 1 and then fed her on and off until 4 when she screamed/laughed/climbed/pulled/poked/cried for 2 hours. She was so tired but couldn't get to sleep. She eventually collapsed on her front and I stroked her back and she fell asleep until 7.30. Then we've had 2 x 20 min naps today. One in the car this morning and one this afternoon when it took me 2 hours to settle her down for it and again I eventually stroked her back until she went off. That only works when she is exhausted though. I'm dreading bedtime. I've already told dp as soon as she's asleep I'm out of here. I need alone time. Can we all pray for a miracle that she'll improve on holiday???

ark you've been quiet of late, if you're lurking I hope things are ok with dp.

Guys to be honest I'd stick the dummy in. If its a choice between crying and dummy, then no contest, imo.

We've had massive massive sucess with it here. Yeah, we're prob creating a dummy monster but I'll cross that bridge later. I'm convinced its why we've managed to have better nights without feeding. They need to suck on something, poor mites.

We were hoping to try sleep training first but perhaps we will have to try dummy.

She went down in seconds tonight, I went to the allotment for an hour and when I got back I found a nearly broken dp who had spent 45 mins getting her back down. We then had a big row about it (because I wanted to go back out for an hour and he seemed incredulous that I'd do that after he'd spent what 'felt like 3 hours' with her). Had a romantic run to hug each other when I got back though.

Similar night to last night here. Tried the dummy a few times but no joy, I held it in she wriggled and spat it out. I am trying the nap hooping where I can and got over 1.5 hours out of her this morning - amazing!

Just yesterday and today she's up on all fours to crawl, the legs can do it but the arms are still a bit commando now and then but expect we'll be back from hols with a speedy crawler. We did not get a baby proofed cottage, I thought she'd still be 'static' at this point. Eeek.

We've moved on buggywise, I just got the Obaby Atlas, anyone used that? The old buggy (Sola) was a hand me down and while it served us well the dodgy wheel was driving me crazy and it'll be nice to have a bit more space in the car. Got all our clothes ready but no idea about what else to take for her. I wish I could pack up the jumperoo :(

How is everyone else? Can I have some more stories of babies that sleep through? it gives me hope it'll happen eventually...

Hope you have a great holiday lady. Am I right in thinking that you're moving house later this summer? We are too and wondering how the hell that's going to go trying to pack up the place with two smallies...anyway.

So last night was better. No sleeping through obviously. But no crying either. She napped for a total of 3 hours yesterday - 1 in morning, 2 in afternoon. She must have really needed it as I had to wake her from the second nap. She was a bit wanting to play at bedtime and chatted for a long time and eventually I settled her at 8.45. She slept until 12.45 which was really great, then feed and back down until I think 4.15ish? Then quick feed and back down and up for the day at 6.30am which is earlier than her usual start. Gave her dummy at that stage and left her playing in cot for about 25 mins but no she was not going back to sleep.

So we'll see how today goes. Yeah I'm a bit stumped on the dummy issue, we kind of phased it out a month ago when I realised she wasn't using it, and once that happened she proceeded to go and do some really decent nights, so I thought great. Then the bad nights happened again and because she had such a bad cold I thought it wouldn't help at all - but the other night she was so upset it turned out to be just what she needed to calm down. So I dunno! Every sleep book going seems to imply that for frequent night-wakers the dummy needs to go. If the baby is sleeping through with using a dummy - keine problem! Will see how the nights go. I think her cold is drying up slightly and am hopeful that that will help (also still feeling awful that I tried to sleep train through a cold :()

That said we're going away this weekend so it will be a merry dance of no sleep for 2 nights. Sigh.

Ladydolly my monkey slept through recently for 2weeks and now back to 2 wake ups, daytime naps are crap happen on school run and I am reluctant to force cot in day as we do need to go out for school. As a maternity night nanny I can tell you lots babies do sleep through and my first was at 15weeks.

Breakfast was weetabix, lunch fish and veg followed by custard made with ebm mixed with fruit and dinner will be spag bol.

Gave soya yogurt yesterday at lunchtime was not overly keen ate it and was refluxy all afternoon poor baby guessing such an amount of soya is not good for him.

eastmids it does give me hope!! i just keep hearing that most babies can do it from 6 months and we're so far from sleeping through, I genuinely don't mind getting up for 1 or 2 feeds but the nonsense waking and 2 hour play sessions in the night are getting a little tedious...

Greenstone Yep, you're right. I was hoping it would be done by now but it's really dragging on, it's looking very likely to be the weekend before I go back to work on the Monday which could not be a more inconvenient time. We're only moving 1/3 mile but going from a flat to a house and the house needing all new carpets and painting does make it a bit more complicated. Are you going far? Do you have somewhere to stay for a couple of nights if you need to?

Ds woke up at 5.30 this morning and that was that! I left him to play in the cot till 6 when he started to get whiney. So I brought him in with me whereupon he played "Lets try to pull Mummys face off" for half an hour. Then I finally fed him at 6.30.

So it was a bit shit but at least i think i know the reason - we're staying in my Mums and the sun comes blasting in through white curtains. The sky was actually blue outside at 5.30! So hopefully once he's back in blackoutland he'll sleep longer.

Still no signs of crawling or clapping or waving and he still doesn't seem to really know his name.....I occasionally worry and then tell myself not to be ridiculous as he's bright as a button and healthy as a horse. He'll get there in his own time.