March '13 - packing up our troubles and getting excited about the new babies

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It's that time again. This thread is going to explode with squishy babies. Which is nice.

Ooh worse I had terrible sickness with both DSs. Imagine what a girl would be like if that theory holds gerry hope you feel better soon it's pants feeling sick.
We are having terrible nights as DS2 is so windy/refluxy/whatever it is. Every sleep is disturbed by burping/sick/farting. It gets better Quickly right??!!
yummy make the most if your last few days to yourself. Have you lost more weight? Good effort I've just realised how huge I am post pregnancy so need to sort that out stop eating cake
worse when is it looking likely you would have the op? Would it be worry waiting til the kids are a bit older or will that just be even harder? Hope it goes well.
Oh DS2 awake again....

Although on the flip side Shattered, you might be like me and feel all lovely, and mellow and bovine with a girl and enjoy every minute. With ds I was murderous towards DH

Op wouldn't be for 4 months or so, as I've got 3 months of pilates to get through first to narrow the gap. That doesn't have make me think of the tube. Mind the gap please... mind the gap

Speaking of pilates, I've just been to the first session of a mum and baby one. Babax loved it. I did too... which coming from someone who would have once stated they'd rather shoot themselves than sit through the bore that is pilates is quite something. I think my life has just become so slow that anything, anything at all, that is a bit different from chasing a 2 year old is like the most fun ever. Muscles feel a wee tiny bit achy too, which is amazing, given I hardly moved more than a foot during the whole thing. Perhaps there is something to this pilates malarky after all. I'd go again purely for the baby side of it though. He had so much fun rolling around on the mat next to me, and squeaking along to the music. Proves my boy theory yet again though, as there is no way that Worselet would have rolled around on a mat squeaking happily to herself for an hour. She'd have rolled for precisely 3 seconds, before screaming blue murder at the sheer injustice of it all.

It'll be interesting to see how he turns out in the end though, mellow and chilled or completely mad like the rest of the family .

However Babax turns out, it'll be down to personality. Fartypants wouldn't have rolled around happily either, but the littlest niece would. I reckon we all have a tendency to lean towards theories that suit our experiences. With a boy and a girl, either you'll end up thinking the stereotypes are true, or you'll think they're a load of bollocks, depending on the personalities of the individual kids in question.

In other news, my dad just demonstrated an awesome way of defusing a tantrum. FP was kicking off about not being allowed a biscuit. He gave her a stern look, opened the back door, pointed into the garden, and said, "Take it outside; we don't want to hear it." Out she went, and in under thirty seconds she was distracted and no longer screaming. Result!

Stormy I'm not actually serious about any of this. It's all completely tongue in cheek!

Yummy I am at the thought of anyone refusing ice cream! We regularly bribe ds with pudding to eat an acceptable amount of his dinner. Controversial I know. I'm sure your ds is just being fussy and will hopefully grow out of it soon. Do you eat with him? Only ask because it's revolutionised meal times round here. As we've got salads growing in the garden he's also been out picking leaves with me, and is interested. I take it ds is still eating well at nursery and saves all the drama for you?

shattered you shared a pic when you were near due date, and I can't believe you're carrying much weight these days. You looked great then so I think you think it's worse than we ask would all think. I hope that makes sense

gez you do sound an ace teacher. Were there many tears today?

worse pilates sounds fun. Ds would've put up with something like that as a baby too. Must be lovely to feel like you have another little buddy.

I'm listening to the glasto warm up on 6 music and wishing I was there. DH and I have discussed taking the tots glamping at one of the more family friendly festivals as a summer holiday in a year or two. God I miss going to gigs.

Bungle I am awfully old aren't I, as the thought of going to a gig fills me with a feeling of dread. Toilets? You go for it though. Bunglette will think your are the coolest, when she is old enough to have an opinion.

Shattered you can't possibly be even remotely large, not with a neat pregnancy bump like yours was. Bf-ing can make you feel a bit flumpy though, what with the inflatable boobs and all.

Can I share the amazing small word thing with everyone? Hope so... because I'm about to.

20 years ago I lived on the exact same street that Shattered lives on now.... Given how many streets there are in the uk, and how many people there are on MN, I'd say the probability of that is fairly close to zero.

Question do I or do I not put on my shoes and go out to the post box on the basis DH is expecting a car magazine in the post? The obvious answer is no, of course not... but the added variable is he is currently bathing Worselet, and I am doing nothing what so ever other than MN. I probably should, shouldn't I

Enjoy your weekends everyone.

Thank God for that, worse, I was starting to worry!

On the eating front I'd like to wave the flag for persistence in the face of sustained refusal. Once every couple of weeks over the past three months, FP has been presented with chicken curry at nursery. At first she refused to even try it, then she tried it a few times but wasn't impressed, and today she cleared half the plate. I suspect it helps that the staff don't get so frustrated as the parents do, so the kids don't bother playing up with food to get a reaction. Personally I'm just looking forward to March, when she can have a special vitamin sweetie every day and I can stop fretting so much about the total rejection of anything remotely plantlike.

stormy where were you waving that flag from?

worse gigs and festivals aren't about age! I'm younger than momma Bunglette, and it gives me shudders too. DP went to Glastonbury a couple of years ago and I thought I had the better deal watching it on TV. To be fair, I'd probably have a great time if it went and would want to go again but...the toilets! If I had a camper van or there was an on site hotel, I'd be there no problem!

yummy DS refuses ice cream on a regular basis. In fact, bar the odd chocolate biscuit he isn't into anything sugary sweet and would much rather tuck into a bowl of carrots or something.

Ah, he awakes. Must dash. We're all poorly, so obviously I'm the least poorly because I don't complain about it as much so everything falls on me! Eurgh. Man flu.

bungle we have all our meals together. We grow tomatoes and strawberrys on our balcony. Ds and dh water them and pick them off together. Dh even sits with him at his toddler table to get him to eat but he's a stubborn little boy. He eats much better at nursery although he doesn't eat meat at nursery. I am amazed to see how ds fills up his spoon with cereal at nursery in the mornings and eats without making a mess. Dm said she is going to get him in to a good feeding routine when she starts looking after him.

worse my partying days are over and I am only 29. I would rather go to bed with a book.

Get well soon something's. You are all having a tough time. I always think it's a lot harder being ill in this warm weather.

2nd load of washing is on, kitchen is clean and soup (for ds) is cooked. It's time to have some fun in the park with ds. Have a fab weekend everyone.

Worse I think it must be something in the name! Madam is a very active handful, tall (although that's no surprise looking at me) and definitely on the side of chunky but I'm planning to do nothing about that as I was the same but was definitely on the lean side by the time I started school.

Stormy, miss madam has a vitamin sweetie every day and has done since she turned 2. The 3 year cut off is for the choking risk rather than the vitamin dose.

Bungle I'm planning on taking the toddler to a festival in the next couple of years. I'm fairly opposed to camping but think it would be fun and I haven't been to a gig for ages!

I just miss going to gigs I think. Used to work at them so would see 4-6 bands or other shows every week. Haven't been to a gig in flipping forever. I think it'd be a yurt or similar really. I can't convince DH on camping in general but some festivals like Glastonbury and Camp Bestival set up family areas with yurts or safari tents and posh showers. Some even have electricity. So not exactly roughing it with the kiddywinks and their psychotropics like the good old days. See you there Betty?

worse I think my DS is also chunky and slightly tall for his age. He's got the Viking look about him and I don't worry in the slightest about chunk. Google obese toddlers and you'll see what I mean - I don't think there's a single toddle on this thread who falls outside the normal range, certainly none of us are anywhere near the withholding food/waiting for the next growth spurt thing.

yummy ooh I'd have been biting my tongue so hard! Well if she manages it then fair play, if not....well nothing lost.

something a day of dardars and cuddles for you all? Feel better soon.

DS woke us all at 5 today. You can imagine the pleasure I felt.
Oh and a word to the wise: don't assume the worst is happening at 20 weeks pregnant when in fact you just ate beetroot for dinner last night. You'd have thought I learnt that last time.

Good to know, Betty, thanks. I'll pop in the chemist for some this afternoon. And I can tell FP is towards the lighter end of the scale by looking at her thighs. Not even the barest hint of creases in them any more. She's got proper little girl legs. Or possibly proper little boy legs, going by the bruises and the "gwazies" (grazes) and the dirt. We went to the park this morning, had a good run rout, went on the swings, had an ice cream, came home for lunch with very little protest, and walked nicely holding my hand. So that's two more stickers on her Really Good Sticker Chart. She seems to think she should get all the stickers at once for being intrinsically good. I am not convinced.

Went to a gig in March but it was the first one for ages. I'm a right grumpy old bugger these days. Forget clubs, I can't even be arsed to go to the pub these days.

Well, damn. I'd temporarily forgotten that FP thinks molars are purely decorative. Chewable vitamins are thus rejected as Not Edible. Alas!

We still use the liquid abidec stormy. Would she have that in a drink? Think the vitamin D is the most important .
Yummy we have good and bad days with eating, but he doesn't sound anything like toddle yum. I feel your frustration but sounds like you are doing all of the right things. Can you hide things in smoothies and sauces etc?
Anyone have any advice on wind in littlies? We have started massage and dentinox as well as a bit of org cycling but god I'm tired. Trying to keep things as normal as poss for DS1 as well as keeping the house going is Hard Work. I haven't done anything for myself since DS2 was born. Once I can get him down in the evenings and he's napping by himself I am reclaiming time to myself. Hoping that happens sooner rather then later for my sanity.
Worse how is the babax doing? I still can't believe you used to live down the street. Funny isn't it.
Am watching Glastonbury with a napping baby on me. I enjoy watching it but would be no good there myself I think!!

leg cycling!

I'm really rather annoyed with DH and his boneheaded approach to seeing doctors. He's due an asthma review but hasn't booked it. Last night he ran out of ventolin and, as luck would have it, decided to have a mild asthma attack at bloody 2 am. Wouldn't phone 111, just wants to go to a pharmacy...ugh.

I'm having to rant here (sorry) because he is still wheezy and has been up all night. Once he's had medication and some proper sleep we will have A Talk. DS had a not great night too so we're all knackered. Local hospital is seeing us soon.

shattered we gave infacol before every feed, stopped mid flow and had a burping session and learnt to never feed lying down. DS seemed quite colicky (rarely brought anything back up, never constipated, didn't seem to have reflux) in the early days and we did this until he was about 3 months. He grew out of it as he got older and was more able to squirm the gas out himself if that makes sense. Sucks at the time!

WIBU to spend today eating cake and watching rom coms?

Without generalising plonk my DH Is the same with his inhalers/health. Fricking pita isn't it. I think you should definitely eat lots of cake and enjoy the tv watching. How are you feeling pregnancy wise?
Thanks for the tips. I CBA with infacol lazy although I do have some. I've been using dentinox but not very much so think I should be a bit more consistent too. Only another 5 weeks til 3 months which I think is when DS1 grew out of it too. Fx crossed!! I've forgotten a lot about newborns!!
Hope everyone having a good Sunday

Shattered I'm going to start worrying about you if you don't get a break soon. I am sure DH has had time to do something for himself since DS2 was born.... Am I right?

Next weekend promise me you'll hand them both over for an hour and a half and get yourself out onto the lovely green space which I know is 5 minutes away, and go for a power walk to clear out the cobwebs. You'll feel a million times better for it. I'm guessing you'd probably need to leave a bottle of ebm just in case, but the extra hassle on that front would be more than worth it.

Winding - With both mine the only method that is/was guaranteed to work was bouncing them on my knee.

I'm ok thanks worse I've been wanting to get out and do some proper exercise but have been too tired or prioritising the wrong things housework. I have started a class with DS2 but will do something by myself this week I promise! Can't wait.
How's everyone? Yummy is it your first day today? Good luck....

Everyone fine round here, if a tad sunburnt. It's definitely summer, I can tell, because every other sentence that comes out of my mouth is bitching about the humidity. I am so jealous of my dad, who drove to Cornwall overnight and will have lovely sea breezes to keep him cool.

Fartypants is looking particularly fetching in three quarter length red trousers that are still a bit big in the bum. Which is proof that FP takes after her father and has no bum at all, because Ecotod, who from photographs is a delightfully proportioned child, grew out of them last year. I'm really starting to worry about how we're going to find trousers that fit when she's out of nappies.

And on the subject of out of nappies, FP has decided we're starting potty training today. The difference in her attitude to the whole thing compared to last time is striking. She suddenly exclaimed, "Oh! I need a wee!" then pulled her trousers and pullup down, parked her bum on the potty and stayed there. I think this is about as clear a signal of readiness as one could get.

shattered what is it that makes some people ignore things like that? Thankfully the dr we saw was very strict with dh, told him he would've been right to call an ambulance, and warned him that if he doesn't learn to always have meds there's a very real chance he'll end up in resus one day.
I hope you manage to carve out some time for yourself soon, and second Worse's suggestion.
And how is ds2 already 9 weeks?!

Stormy that does rather sound like a breakthrough. Keep us updated! The closest we've come is ds refusing nappies and asking for pants, but that's not enough for me yet. He'll only sit on the potty for ten seconds and did a small poo on the floor recently. I don't think my nerves can handle that.
Is dd tall and slim or just teeny all over? As it's warm I reckon you can solve the small bum/big trousers combo with skirts and/or leggings. H&m make long slim clothes if you're looking for s&b advice.

I'm stuck under a sleeping child. He's a bit under the weather today so we're having a low key stay at home day. You know they're not feeling right when they refuse grandma's apricot tart and clotted cream in favour of a small bowl of frosties. I had to administer Calpol and milk in the middle of the night, and afterwards lingered by the door to check he went back down. Little sod angel told me to "Go home now, Mummy" before lying down again.

shattered thanks for asking after me. I'm feeling really well and increasingly whale like. Second trimo in a heartwave is not fun, I'm just glad I'm not due right now! Stretch marks are starting to appear and I do feel heavy which is tough, but everything's good really.

Ooh I meant to add, Gerry is scan day today?

I'm in the kitchen folding laundry, the man's at the top of the stairs swearing at the too-wide stairgate he's failing to fit, Fartypants pottering in her room. Suddenly a shout:
"A wee! I did a wee!"
And she had. And it was in the potty. And she'd taken her knickers off first. I'm a bit gobsmacked, and grinning like an idiot, naturally.

Ah no plonk he's 7 weeks. I'm being optimistic and counting 12 weeks as 3 months!! Glad you're feeling ok . How many weeks are you now? Hope DS better soon.