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August 2014 Babies,half way to one and staring at you while you eat.

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GingerCuddleMonster · 23/01/2015 12:29

I've been told via Whatsapp by a MN'er this morning who used to be a member of the ante-natal group that there's a Facebook group, but that they won't accept anyone or her back Hmm (a bit weird if you ask me, but each to their own, and have really left a PND suffering mum feeling like shit, but I doubt they care in their "clique")

So are there any August Mums left on here willing to chat, without connecting to Faceache?

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BeansMrSeanAndHeinz · 11/03/2015 16:37

Thanks for the tips everyone. Dear me red you have it right with the stumbling on and coping. Up until about two weeks we seemed to have it sorted, and now it's all change.

On a lighter note Ella's Kitchen, that stuff is like baby crack!

RedToothBrush · 11/03/2015 16:41

I must admit we have had more success with pouches with integral spoons than jars/bowls spoons.

Not by much, but food has actually gone into baby rather than over him, me, the walls, his high chair, bib, baby prison, floor, everything else.

I definitely feel like I had it sussed a couple of weeks ago, and then had the rug pulled from underneath me.

GingerCuddleMonster · 11/03/2015 21:05

evening all,

sorry to hear many of you are struggling with cradle cap Sad.

red I'm just coping too. I do the best I can given the hours I work and sometimes I feel an absolute failure but if I don't work we won't have a home.

Today DS was better so his grandmother had him, and I returned to work. Wish I hadn't but to be honest it was stressful. I've also been diagnosed with alopecia (probably stress related) I'm only 25 and going white/bald in patches. I hate it Sad.

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GingerCuddleMonster · 12/03/2015 11:03

morning, I'm off work again, baby is still not 100%

health visitor came round at 9am said DS was fine gave me some free books and a toothbrush and some toothpaste lol

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felkov · 12/03/2015 12:37

sorry to hear your DS isn't better yet ginger get well soon poorly babies!

not sure if everyone has the same view but my experience of the health visitor has been rubbish so far, so i actually try to avoid her now! every time I've raised a concern she's brushed it off as "that's normal" and made me feel stupid for asking. if DD is sick i call the GP instead! luckily the dr is very good and even does phone consultation.

GingerCuddleMonster · 12/03/2015 14:47

felkov my first one was useless, the new one die to the other one leaving the area is really nice and easy going. She also gives me free stuff, got a free doidy cup today too so she's useful lol

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BeansMrSeanAndHeinz · 13/03/2015 00:14

ginger thought you were brave venturing onto that bf/ff thread. If I've learnt anything from you lot it's that feeding goes out the window at six months anyway!

I love hearing about how health visitors and postnatal varies across the country. We had one visit at two weeks I think, the rest is up to you to find out where they are, when the clinics happen etc. like a spy film!

mrsmilkymoo · 13/03/2015 09:34

ginger hope your ds gets better soon! As for health visitors, I found ours were fine, although we haven't seen them for months. Our area is very short staffed so they don't seem to do much more than an initial visit or two.

Red sounds like your ds is pulling some impressive moves. Must be quite stressful too though.

Our photography session this weekend has been postponed now as the photographer's children are both in hospital!

Are any of you guys sling users? I am so close to buying a gorgeous oscha but not sure if I can justify the cost. Would it be bad to treat myself for mother's day?!

jessplussomeonenew · 13/03/2015 10:17

Yes, I'm definitely into slings.... I have 2 firespirals (a 4 and a 6) and an Osche ring sling, as well as a few more structured carriers which don't get much use. Which Oscha are you tempted by, MrsMilky? More expensive wraps are lovely to wrap with, especially the Fispis, and I console myself that they do keep their second hand value very well!

GingerCuddleMonster · 13/03/2015 11:17

Beans yeah I thought I'd give it a go, people seem to forget formula feeding can be a bit of a minefield and its not as simple as says it on the back of the box! I knew I would feed DS from the breast or had to be bottle, my books are not mine they are reconstructed and filled with silicone Confused I was slung out of hospital after 3hours and that was that. it was a bit of a self learning curve.

mrsmilk I don't use slings daily, if I go hill walking in Brecon with Josh though we put the baby in a baby Bjorn carrier but that's about it. I don't see a problem with testing yourself at all Grin. you deserve it!!

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GingerCuddleMonster · 13/03/2015 11:36

wouldn't feed DS from the breast that should read

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RedToothBrush · 13/03/2015 12:20

I have put some survival tactics into place. Its probably God awful parenting but its saving my sanity a little bit at the moment.

He is amazing in what he can do. But god is it a nightmare! I do think its a reflection of his personality as much as his ability though. He is very determined and seems to be very like his father in being totally fearless (DH is a climber and kayaker). If he sees something he wants he WILL get it. This is usually everything he shouldn't have. Like cables. And he has a tendency to ignore them until the second I turn my back for 3 seconds. He was an easy newborn; I think he will more than make up for it as a toddler. That's not totally unexpected if I'm honest, but I wasn't planning on it so soon.

We had already invested in an Ikea gym mat as our living room floor is wood laminate and was adding to the stress, but its a bit small. So DH has got his climbing mats out and I've got a couple of cushions out too. Having a little protection from falls or banging heads whilst crawling or rolling is a god send. I've also dug out a bean bag which is saving my back no end. And he seems to like trying to climb it too.

He still has no interest in food which is stressing me out. So have decided to be a bit more relaxed about it and take a bit of a different approach. I'm still trying to give him his porridge in the morning, but I've also tried to give him a finger food snack too. The idea of giving him 'junk' is something I'm not entirely happy with, but its solid, he has to chew it, and it dissolves a bit in his mouth so its slightly less of an issue with choking.

First attempt this morning, he was a bit "What the heck is this?" and he did choke a little, but he I coped with it. I'd much rather do that then try full on BLW with food which is more solid. I think I'm coming to the conclusion that I'm going to be fighting a loosing battle with purees, because of his personality - he seems to want to be in control - so until he has the fine motor control to feed himself better with a spoon its just going to end up a battle ground and a food explosion which neither of us will enjoy.

So I think we'll have to go down the BLW route whether we want to or not. In the meantime I think I will try and continue with an afternoon puree meal of veg or fruit to try and introduce flavours but without pressuring him or myself to actually eat any. I've reluctantly also bought some baby vitamin drops as I'm worried about him not eating solids, and the advice being 6 months based on the fact that iron and vitamin stores start to run out after that. At least that way he's getting something down his trap apart from breast milk.

I'm trying to stop expressing and given up given him bottles of expressed milk as he'd started refusing them anyway in preference of breast. Which is a bit of a pain in some ways (especially the timing with weaning and ideally wanting to be introducing drink from a bottle or cup), but I wasn't coping terribly well as it was taking too long and was turning into a nightmare with his mobility.

I've kind of made progress on the sleep front. He wouldn't sleep in the day anywhere but on me. But in the last couple of days I've managed to get him to go to sleep on the bed. The problem with this, is the only way I can do this is by lying down next to him with my face an inch from his and/or with his hands on my face or in my mouth. And this is now the only way he's going to sleep at night too. Not ideal. Especially not at 3am when he wakes up, panics, rolls over to try and find me (with his eyes closed) with zombie outstretched arms and claws me in the face. However since I can now actually leave him for a few minutes during the day, I think I'll take it! Its sweet, and to be fair, co-sleeping rather than spending all night trying to get him back into his cot is working better for us. DS will have to be in our room until he's two or three years old anyway, due to the layout of the house so its not a disaster. We just have to hope he grows out of it.

I think the sleep thing is a symptom of the start of separation anxiety though. He's not fairing well when I leave the room at the moment.

Cradle cap: DS did have it really bad. I removed it in the bath whilst in with him. I gentled massaged it in circles whilst wet with shampoo until it came away and gently pulled it off (DS is a baldy). It took a few sessions, but DS was totally unphased by it. Its not come back too much since.

Wraps: I think its another one of those things that it depends on the personality of your baby. I tried one with DS but he HATED it. He just hated being restricted. I should really try a hip wrap with it now he's a little bigger but with all his arm and leg waving I've not had the energy to try (and suspect it will be a disaster).

DH bought, a littlelife baby carrier instead, www.johnlewis.com/littlelife-ultralite-s3-back-child-carrier/p939263 which DS does seem to love though (not so good for around the house though). John Lewis are out of stock at the moment. I think this is down to them selling it for about £20 less then everywhere else!

Sorry, that was a bit long than I intended. DS is asleep and I'm just enjoying the peace for once.

jessplussomeonenew · 13/03/2015 14:19

Red sounds like you are finding ways to get through this which is great. Just wondering if there are ways you can give him control over purees without going full BLW - perhaps sucking food from pouches, or using one of those net bag things? I see BLW babies using pre-loaded spoons from very early on so you could always try him with that, likely to be hideously messy but probably the quickest way for him to learn. You could also try something like mashed potato and just letting him lick it off his fingers.

On wraps, my son is the wriggliest of babies but loves being in the sling, he's been asleep in it for nearly 2 hours now (worn out from swimming this morning). I think in a strange way the wraps are better than the carriers for wriggly babies because they're held in closely and completely and it works like swaddling.

Hope your little one is feeling better today, Ginger!

RedToothBrush · 13/03/2015 14:41

Thanks jess.

I have up and down days. DS didn't read the manual and seems to not be doing anything he 'should' be. How much personalities affect things has been quite enlightening. I suffer from quite bad anxiety so sometimes find things more difficult than they should be too.

I see BLW babies using pre-loaded spoons from very early on so you could always try him with that, likely to be hideously messy but probably the quickest way for him to learn.

That's kind of what has been ending up happening. I've been using a 'two spoon' method (load one, whilst he holds the other). I can only cope with it so much in all honesty. Just the sheer amount of mess, with very little actually going into his mouth. I've ended up despairing a little with it and worrying about how much he's been getting. Using pouches with spoons has given me a bit of a break as he seems happier with them to a point before he starts refusing to eat.

I don't think giving him the pouch on his own will work just yet unfortunately. I'm worried about choking but I might give it a go if I'm feeling brave and DH is around.

I've not heard of net bags (I know they aren't called that, but not familiar with concept either).

felkov · 13/03/2015 15:08

Red sounds like you're doing really well considering how tough it is. We're in a tiny flat with wooden floor and cables/sharp pointy things everywhere so I'm just dreading when DD is more mobile. in the past couple of days she's learnt to roll onto her front but can't get back yet so i seem to spend all day rescuing her. constantly worrying she'll whack her head on something hard now.

i think her top 2 teeth are coming through too as i can see them starting to show through the gums. I'm desperately hoping that explains the terrible sleep and masses of mucus/coughing/vomiting which we've been enjoying this week. I'm becoming totally obsessed with sleep, I'm sure its not healthy!

jessplussomeonenew · 13/03/2015 15:55

Red, this sort of thing: www.safetots.co.uk/Baby-Feeding/Weaning/c44_57_171/p5477/Munchkin-Fresh-Food-Feeder/product_info.html

I've not tried one myself as we're not giving purees, but they seem like they could be good for your DS.

RedToothBrush · 13/03/2015 15:55

Jess I could kiss you.

A pouch of pears, pears, pears has disappeared very rapidly without spoons. Or mess.

Only problem: I have now have a baby with big blues eyes saying "Is that all mummy? I want more!".

Grin

Thank you!

felkov · 13/03/2015 15:58

whoops i hit post too soon. i meant to also ask if anyone has any tips on how to teach Dd to drink from a bottle (or a sippy cup or basically anything other than boob). I've been trying for weeks and the furthest we've got is her chewing on the teat or spout but not actually swallowing any milk. i really really want someone else to be able to feed her, esp as solid food still 99% going on the floor or down her front

felkov · 13/03/2015 16:00

oh hooray baby Red well done!!!

RedToothBrush · 13/03/2015 16:16

felkov, DS happily did feed from a bottle until recently. Now he's doing what you describe. I think the problem is teething more than anything.
More recently when I have managed to get him to take it I do it by tricking him or pretending its boob. I slip the teet in after just removing boob or I lie him on the floor and feed him with his head on the side (like you would if you were breastfeeding). But like I say, he's being difficult even like that now.

Nazly on the September thread was having similar problems though. I think she worked it out eventually through sheer persistence and desperation.

jessplussomeonenew · 13/03/2015 16:51

Woohooo, great news, Red! So glad to have been able to help :)

Felkov, we struggled for ages with getting DS to take milk from a bottle. What seemed to work for us was making sure the milk and the bottle were warm (he stops drinking the last oz if it has cooled down!) and fresh, then just offering regularly, never making it stressful but just keeping on offering (just small amounts to reduce wastage). Don't assume a slow-flow teat is best, it often is for bf babies but I have a very fast let-down so a faster flow seemed to work better for us - we use the variable Avent teats which are quite good.

Oh, and I don't know if it helped but the first time he took milk from the bottle it was really fresh as I'd expressed it immediately before and I think the taste and temperature were familiar. He'll now take milk that has been in the fridge/freezer, but seems to like it best when it's really fresh.

mrsmilkymoo · 15/03/2015 10:24

Ah Jess you sound like a sling addict! I ended up getting a Margo Verona (size 6) from Oscha - I had been borrowing something very similar from a friend and loved it. I already have a ring sling, buckles, and a hybrid stretchy! DH is mainly the buckles user though. I wear DD all the time as it's one of the only ways she'll sleep on me during the day.

Never managed to get her to take a bottle so can't help there! In the last couple of days though I've found she's been eating a little more at meals which is great. We've been doing blw for six weeks or so now. At times I have wondered if I'm doing the right thing but then days like yesterday where she seems to be doing really well I'm pleased we're sticking with it.

Happy Mother's Day everyone Flowers

jessplussomeonenew · 15/03/2015 16:48

Pretty wrap, MrsMilky - I love Art Nouveau designs.

Happy mothers day to you all! Cake Flowers

Nazly · 15/03/2015 20:35

Wooow so many posts; I admit I stopped checking here regularly but today found so many posts to read in one go; ds was due Sept born Aug and I am sticking with Sept thread because I really feel his brain development/ mile stones follows His due date

Mrs how did you cut her hair? I so need to do that but am petrified of taking scissors near him. Going to hairdresser is a no no as he is extremely sensitive to new places so it is likely to be a battle

Jess so interesting what you said about the order of introducing food i.e finger food from beginning or following puree and risk of choking

So many mums here like to do blw, can somebody tell me about the advantages?

GingerCuddleMonster · 16/03/2015 21:11

hey all,

hope everyone had a nice mothers day, mine was shit and me and dp had a tiff about it. All forgotten now though. Good news is DS is feeding properly again Grin. hallelujah!!

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