October 2014 // thread 5 // baby's first Christmas

[JeannePoole]

Welcome back!

(Dear greetings cards manufacturers: 'Baby's First Christmas' does NOT necessarily have to include Baby being liberally sprinkled with glitter from your shoddily-made merchandise.

Except that, as I'm rapidly discovering, it does.

Mine has one big nap a day usually - we feed him into submission at 1.30 and he'll either not sleep at all or sleep till I wake him. I don't let him go longer than 3 hours because I need to feed him. He has it in his sleepyhead but on the sofa usually.

He'll nap a bit in the morning in the sling, pram or car.

Oh and he naps on his side if that's relevent?

Moose also you mentioned that your ds doesnt really like white noise, do you think he maybe needs complete silence? I know you have probably tried these things, just trying to think of everything possible to help you out, its bloody tough! My first dd was the same so i know what you are going through, the only way i got her to sleep was in the swing or lying beside her on my bed and turning her on her side, holding her hands down away from face & breathing in her ear, it took ages mind you and sometimes she woke up 5 minutes later #frustrating

Omg Stigz that's almost exactly what I do to try to get him down after a night feed! I put him on his side, hold his arms down and heavy breathe at the poor boy! And dummy. It's all out sleep wars at 5am here.

Hi girls...I'm a complete lurker on here and the sept thread but get soo much reassurance from reading your posts. Just wondering if anyone can help, I'm trying to get dd to take a bottle (she's ebf, won't even really take a dummy) I've not left her for more than a 15min dash to the shop in 14weeks since she was born as she's so unpredictable in how long she'll go between a feed... Now I really really want to get her onto a bottle so I can leave her with dh for an hour or so. I've tried 4 types of bottle (2 different avent ones, mam and nuk) now I don't know what else to try?! Any advice hugely appreciated!

Hi aisha
It might not be the teat but instead persevering with it!! I would get someone else to give her the bottle when she is hungry and you make sure you are out of sight and smell! Also so if she cries you don't hear her as you will find it really difficult.
I've also got the same problem and got R to take a few Oz from a bottle over Christmas. Just during the week dH isn't really around to do the bottles so we will just try at the weekends.

Lolsplendid @ the darth vader trick ... The things we do (",)

Welcome aisha sorry no advice as i ff but im sure someone will help you out, its a school day every day on here

Haha i have that swing! He liked it for a few days then changed him mind! Must try it again at some point.
He hasnt napped in the day since he was 2 weeks. He drifts off on me during a feed for 10-20 minutes. For 2 magical days when i was 7 days df and he was 2 days into ranitidine he let me put him in his cot for 3 naps each day but the next day i tried it it went to crap. That was also after a week or so of seeming sleepy at 2pm. Ive just no idea how to get him back to that. Ive literally spent the last 12 weeks on the sofa feeding, putting him swing or bouncy chair to eat lunch
He only sleeps in car/pram during the day and wakes the second you stop. I feel like im just waiting for every day to end at the moment and now the nights are shit too

Babymoose would take expressed milk from an avent bottle but not the tt closer to nature ones. I always let dh give the bottles so he wouldnt cry for boobs

Sorry moose remind me, he is on reflux medication isn't he ?

Thanks ladies will try all suggestions

Sorry he is!! i remember you saying the bother you had with gp, i would say the sleep issues are probably reflux related, maybe a stronger dose is required ? As soon as dd2 was prescribed losec her napping during the day went back to normal as she went from sleeping most of the day to what you are describing with your ds

Hi Aisha18 (I'm also on both September and October threads)

While first introducing bottles, don't give the bottle when baby is very hungry or tired. We found a few oz from a bottle about half hour after baby dozed off worked best when DD was initially refusing the bottle

Also check the temperature of the milk. Mine likes it hotter that I'd expect.

Hes been on losec for 9 days and weve just dropped the ranitidine completely. No idea how long i should give it to work?
Hes been in his swing for 45mins now half screaming half looking bored and has just started to look sleepy but is crying in frustration. Hes possibly looking too long for it

How does it look?

Good luck Aisha I cant really give you any advice. I gave my baby a bottle for the first time at 4 weeks and he never had any problems with it. I hope you figure it out!

We went baby swimming for the first time today, it was really fun! No cries until he had to get changed again. Then he went absolutely mental haha
Poor lad must have been so tired, he didnt even want his bottle. Tucked him into the pram and he conked out straight away.

moose do you swaddle babymoose? I find it helps a lot to get him to sleep. If he screams a lot I sit next to him and shhhh the bejesus out of him.

This is quite useful for suggesting how many night wakings are normal

www.weebeedreaming.com/my-blog/nightfeedings

wonder I am a real chicken with daytime naps and go for the easiest option which is out in the pram or car seat. In the morning I can usually get 2 hrs using this and go for a long walk or go to a cafe once he is firmly asleep. Can't say I'm finding the cups of tea or pain au chocolat a hardship! But I reckon I am making a rod for my own back by not enforcing naps at home, it's just he resists so much and ends up mad. Last week I took him out in the afternoon too but haven't been able to this week as doing other stuff and he has def been more ratty in the evening - then again he could be needing to go to bed earlier as the grumps in the evening in early November were the signal to move his bedtime back.

After a few days of no day sleeping, baby has now been asleep for most of today.
I'm in trouble tonight aren't i?

Hey all r had a good night last night one wake at 3 then straight back off til 7. He's not slept well in the day today so who knows what tonight will bring!
He has gone down at 7 and not woke up.....yet!
wonder I love babymooses hair it's fab dd1 was just the same and I loved it the others have all been more or less bald or a bit of fluff. :)

Even though we had a good night last night I've felt really down in the dumps today think it must just be January blues :(

Me too pregnant, started the week on a high but felt a bit...aimless...today. Felt like I was counting the mins till DH got home but poor DH, little M was so tired that after DH lent in to kiss him he burst into tears and did his silly high pitched cry!

Aimless is a good way to describe it pony and I feel a bit antisocial like I want to hide away and feel a bit sorry for myself.

Met up with a friend this morning she is pregnant and due tommorow she is so excited felt a bit envious in some ways and in other ways would not want to be in her position for anything!

I feel really funny about pregnant friends now. I have to really fake enthusiasm, I just feel really sorry for them. I know that's probably the PND talking.

DH wonders why I'm in a bad mood when he comes back in the house grumping loudly, I point out the baby is finally asleep in time for dinner. Sit down and he knocks something over and baby wakes up, grrr That was 2 hours ago and she's still awake

Dh waltzed in tonight and decided that "something had to be done" about ds lack of sleep and that we should try putting him down awake for a week and see if it works. In theory im all for this, but i know my little hell child and it wont/didnt work.
We did bath at 7.30, feed, story, leave him awake. I decided since this was dh's bright idea i would bog off for a shower! (Hell on earth as i could here ds screaming and couldnt remember how many times id washed my hair)
Dh now thinks ds is too young for this plan. But it was good for him to try and see what a challenge he is. Hes now back on the boob being fussy because its right boob and he prefers the left, looking up at me with big awake eyes. Im trying not to fall asleep typing and drop my phone on his head!