July 2014 - sleepless nights but lots of smiles

[NancyinCali]

The old thread is nearly full so here's a new place for us to chat about our July babies. Help yourself to some tea & cake to keep you going through the sleepless nights .

Give up stuff? On the contrary, I seek out new recipes for gooey, sugary things!

Bean weighed today at 7.2kgs. Seems to have slowed down a bit in terms of growth. Ah well, she's gon a be a wee one. I'll break it to her gently.

Anyone know a good cream for dry baby faces? My Dermalogica is mine, dammit.

moresnow I'm in denial but ds also starting standing by himself and I dont think is far off walking. ...arhh! Sounds horrible for ds2 though hope the antibiotics kick in quickly...

casmama give up wine...with a baby...no chance! !!

Thanks ickle we're still dealing with the fallout of last year but hopefully things will be ok in the long run.

coincidentally I think ds has slept through on a night when he's had a decent dinner in the evening so I've been trying to make sure he has his at about 5 as if it's much later he's not interested. last night we didn't get in til 5:30 though so I gave him some of my dinner which he only had a few mouthfuls of (fish chips and peas) and so I gave him some porridge too. He still stirs in the night but I just pop his dummy in or cuddle him and is starving when he wakes about 4/5 am so no chance of going back to sleep then! Strangely I'm more tired now when he sleeps through and the first night I woke at 5 panicking there was something wrong! A friend recently told me her 3 year old wakes about 10 times a night! So I feel lucky even with 1 wake up now!

Casmama I felt the same about the fb page.

ismarah my gp said to just use whatever nappy cream you use on ds's face I said I used vaseline and she said that's fine buy I have also used bepantham (?) and the metanium(?) and sudocreme - depends what I have to hand. I seem to remember using lush dream cream (?) on my nieces face. on top of that I'm now using flannels for ds's face instead of wet wipes to clean food off in an attempt to help. I got the mixture from a page about making your own wet wipes but basically chamomile tea (I like the one with honey and apparently its more soothing) with some baby oil and lavender oil in a jug, I soak the flannels in it and pop in a tupperware box. I also use this solution with Cotton wool when his bum has been irritated. I find the flannels better for cleaning food mess anyway as they're more abrasive.

ds can stand if holding onto me and push himself up to standing but he hasn't worked out that he can do it holding onto other things yet thank goodness! He was bad enough shuffling round the bathroom on his bum pushing the bouncer yesterday!

Last night when I was singing to him to try and get him to eat his dinner he started rocking from side to side copying my swaying and this morning he did it to a tune on the TV. He's so bloody cute how am I going to go back to work? He drove me bloody mad yesterday as he screamed at every meal for no reason I can think of other than being tired but those lovely moments make it all worth it.

I know several babies who are now walking at 9/10 months... my sister walked at 8 months and my aunt at 6 months...

MoreSnowPlease I'm not going back until July don't want to go back at all... would rather go and work in a bar or supermarket or something but can't afford it. DP and I are going to have some counselling so things will improve its just that we've both been through a lot and haven't had time to deal with it or support each other because of ds.

Am I mad for wanting another baby? I was thinking about trying in the summer all being well...

My stomach really hurts :( I hate periods!

Sorry MoreSnowPlease missed the bit about your ds being ill... stoopid phone... can he have natural live yogurt to help with his gut? hope he's better soon. I hate it when ds is ill. makes me cry all the time.

auntie counselling sounds like a really good idea. better to deal with it than put it off but I realise it will be very hard and probably drag up lots of stuff you probably would rather not think about so and hugs. You are totally and utterly insane to want another baby already! But several of my nct group feel the same. I'm not planning on even starting to think about it until ds is 18 months. ..although I see the logic of not leaving the sleep deprived state I couldn't cope with colic again yet! Need to be able to bribe ds1 and entertain him with tv before I can have another!

moresnow I know I just need to accept ds is unlikely to crawl and just hope he's less frustrated when he can walk. Keeps crying because doesn't like being on his tummy and can only push himself backwards! Hope his gut improves quickly

Ismarah I use Aveeno on DD2's cheeks when they are dry. Works really well; I only need to apply it once.

Auntie Sorry you and your DP are still finding it rough. I'm sure the counselling will be a big help.

Hope everyone with poorly little ones is doing ok.

DD2 slept from 12.30am till 7.30am last night. I might have had to get up to settle her at 2.30am but can't remember. But it's the first time in months that she hasn't feed every 4 hours through the night. Feels good.

Does anyone else's baby "talk" by screaming? DD2 intersperses her babbling with a great deal of screeching.

kiwi I'm split between being happy for you and because I was up every hour for no obvious reason. Ds just couldn't self settle and I'm shattered. I may give up and cosleep again until cough/worst of teething over.

morning all

how are your boys and girls getting on with crawling/sitting/rolling?

Elijah is doing this funny combo of rocking back and forth, about to crawl then pouncing instead
he really is on the verge of cracking crawling and it is so interesting and lovely to watch his efforts. especially when the others lie down opposite him and encourage him and cheer him on

after snot&puke gate we are finally back on foods, since Sunday.
he's now tried apples and peas - loves them.

i can't believe he was 7 months old yesterday.
hope you are all well

ickle I'd like 4 but realistically we'll manage to have 2 if i'm lucky... being not far off 40, having medical issues and other stuff helps confirm the idea of having them reasonably close together.

I would cosleep while he's unwell - it's the only way we got through it when ds was ill at Christmas and I even coslept for some of his naps.

kiwi ds is screeching too - I keep having to check he's ok.

I feel crap today. last night when getting ds ready for bed I hurt him accidentally. He was ok but bled a little and cried for a couple of minutes. I cried all night and this morning because I feel so awful. I hurt my baby boy :( Today I have a headache achy sinuses and a sore throat which I hope is just the crying and not a cold.

snow hmm funny you should mention that...

I use tommee tippee bottles and yes up until last week I was using the first size teats. DS would have 7 oz/210ml milk 5 or 6 times a day occasionally leaving an oz or two but would have a bottle at 6:30/7pm, 1am and then 5/6 am overnight.

Last week I decided to try different sized teats because he was getting more distracted etc and when I was looking at them dp said not to bother with the next size up (medium flow) but to go for the fast flow as they said 6 months + so that's what I did.

Tbh it's been hit and miss - sometimes he's fine with them, sometimes he's grumpy with them (they sometimes squirt in his face), and sometimes he still gets distracted. But I've not noticed he's having more and I've not really stopped using the others - they're all in the steriliser together so I'm not consciously using one or the other half the time.

Now having said all that ds has started having less milk the past couple of days... He's not really eaten more solids in fact he's been a bit fussy with that too so it's probably coincidence but today I've struggled to get him to have more than 60ml except his first bottle this morning which he threw up. As I'm writing this I'm wondering if he had a bit of reflux or something. Anyway....

Can you give your ds more at each night feed to try to reduce the frequency? or does it not work like that with him? it doesn't with ds to be honest he'll only have what he wants. Is he on solids yet? I've noticed ds has less at night if he has a decent evening meal.

Does that help?

If you don't feed him when he stirs what happens?

Perhaps wait til he's hungry and asking for it during the day?

Only ds's overnight feeds are/were in a rough routine - the rest of the time it was as and when he's hungry

this article popped up on my fb - I know it's about BF but there may be something you can try?

Sometimes when I want ds to focus on me I sing/make funny noises which sometimes works... others he just joins in!

moresnow

i suggest you have 7 then.
I find BabyZing completely delightful and nowhere near as hard work as some of the others.
honestly i can't believe how much i enjoy him - I wonder if it because he SLEEPS !

I'm not being modest when I say I don't feel i have cracked this parenting lark (I'm clueless about how to make them do things and on time without shouting for example) and I have zero patience for noise and idiotic behaviour.
maybe seeing how they behave when they are 10 or 13 makes me so grateful to have a baby that is just sooo much easier in comparison!

whoever was talking about age difference - I found a 2 year gap very manageble.
17 months between DS2 & DS3 was too quick and 3.5 years too long (although i had an MC after DS4 -so it took longer to have DS5)
does that help at all?

Oh zing I'm struggling to conceive how I will cope with 1 more! I think we will aim for 2 yr gap but took ages to get pregnant with ds1 so probably start trying when he's 1...arhh not so far away...

As for teats ds stopped drinking as much so moved from 1 to 2. He didn't do the same with 2 but weaning probably affected that too but we wanted to get him used to a faster flow for a free flowing sippy cup for water. His poo is quite constipated so trying to get plenty of water in him. In terms of food I seem to recall blueberries and prunes...any other suggestions also anything to avoid?

Ds has been waking every hour for over a week so last night gave ibuprofen and we got every 2h instead - meant he stayed in his bed however that went back to a 4.30 wake not 5.30 which we had been getting. He did eventually go back to sleep until 7 so can probably cope with that. Just need to get this sorted before I go back to work at easter!

ickle same here about trying for dc2.

DS has water in a sippy cup - I bought a couple but he's much better with the free flowing one. I encourage him to have some at each meal and probably has about 50 ml over the course of the day.

ds was a but constipated - poo quite dry but he was still going regularly. I stopped giving him banana, gave him orange, blueberries and prunes but I think the sprouts did it! The prunes made no difference and I tried both dried and tinned but think blueberries help as coincidentally it coincided with me running out and forgetting to get more. ds loves them so I give him some for breakfast and just pop them in his mouth whole. Also granary toast sometimes seems to have a similar effect!

He always has blueberries for breakfast (dh loves them) and granary toast most days. ..he does love banana so might try stopping that see if it helps.

I'm so tired trying to find the energy to do park run this morning...